Earlier this week, Left-Wing Gentlemen’s Quarterly (aka GQ) landed a big scoop that was destined to alter the shape of the 2010 elections, if not American politics as we know it: an anonymous source said Republican Senate candidate Rand Paul kidnapped a woman while attending Baylor university and forced her to take illegal drugs. From the article published August 9th at 10:55am:


Accordi
ng to this woman, who requested anonymity because of her current job as a clinical psychologist, “He and Randy came to my house, they knocked on my door, and then they blindfolded me, tied me up, and put me in their car. They took me to their apartment and tried to force me to take bong hits. They’d been smoking pot.” After the woman refused to smoke with them, Paul and his friend put her back in their car and drove to the countryside outside of Waco, where they stopped near a creek. “They told me their god was ‘Aqua Buddha’ and that I needed to bow down and worship him,” the woman recalls. “They blindfolded me and made me bow down to ‘Aqua Buddha’ in the creek. I had to say, ‘I worship you Aqua Buddha, I worship you.’ At Baylor, there were people actively going around trying to save you and we had to go to chapel, so worshiping idols was a big no-no.”
The gossip had been online just an hour and a half before Politico JournoListo Ben Smith reported it to his ample audience at 12:28pm. Key quote:
This allegation from Jason Zengerle’s GQ profile of Rand Paul is a bit too big a deal to be left in its ether of anonymity and non-denial.
Yes, Rand Paul hadn’t publicly denied the allegations within 93 minutes of their publication, so it was time for Smith to play them up! Mind you, this same Ben Smith won’t mention an on-the-record whistle-blower charging the DOJ with discrimination, but a decades-old off-the-record charge against a Tea Party Republican is worthy of his investigative journalism and online real estate. In Smith’s defense, the mistake might be due to the fact that he no longer has his fellow JournoListas to bounce stories off of before taking the plunge.
So the meme spread. And lo and behold, Rand Paul decides it’s worth publicly denying the charges against him. In fact, he went on the offensive and threatened to sue GQ for reporting false allegations. Paul went on record to Fox News and stated, “No, I never was involved with kidnapping. No, I never was involved with forcibly drugging people.” Paul’s spokesman, Jesse Benton, referred to the GQ piece as “a libel story” and said that they are considering pressing charges.
Not yet aware of Paul’s unequivocal denial, GQ doubled down:
We’ve vetted, researched, and exhaustively fact-checked Jason Zengerle’s reporting on Rand Paul’s college days,” GQ editor Jim Nelson said in a statement. “We stand by the story, and we gave the Paul campaign every opportunity to refute it. We notice that they have not, in fact, refuted it.”
Well, now they have. But the journalism malpractice on the part of GQ and others who rushed to spread the meme like Politico’s Smith is fully exposed when the magazine’s anonymous source came out of hiding and dropped this bomb to left-wing blogger Greg Sargent at the Washington Post’s Plum Line blog:
The woman — who was made available to me for an interview by GQ reporter Jason Zengerle in response to the Paul campaign’s denunciations of his article — said she didn’t mean to imply that she was kidnapped “in a legal sense.”
“The whole thing has been blown out of proportion,” she told me. “They didn’t force me, they didn’t make me. They were creating this drama: `We’re messing with you.’”
The woman said that much of the subsequent coverage of her allegations missed a key nuance: As a participant in a college ritual, where lines between acquiescence and victimization are often blurry, she was largely playing along with the notion that she was being forced to follow Paul’s orders.
“I went along because they were my friends,” she said. “There was an implicit degree of cooperation in the whole thing…
Hoisted with your own petard! To GQ, this anonymous woman said the GOP Senate candidate kidnapped her and tried to force her to take illegal drugs, but when she witnessed a man’s character being publicly assassinated by an adversarial media, her tune changed.
And now you understand the anatomy of a smear. Partisan press wildly exaggerates a story based on flimsy evidence, the story is granted credence by allegedly objective media outlets, and a candidate is toxified. They are at war, and this is how they fight.






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Back in the 80's a couple of friends and I snuck up on another friend, blindfolded her, drove her around and finally ended up at a party where we celebrated her birthday. We even drank beer. It was fun.
Can we please see Obama's college transcripts now?
Love it! Prior to my Freshman year in high school, a group of older students "kidnapped us," painted our faces and did really weird things to our hair, wrapped us in toliet paper, and then forced us to sit in the back of a pickup truck as they cruised the local hang-outs. I consider those "perpetrators" to be some of the nicest folks I've ever known and am still friends with them.
I hope he does sue and does it loudly. This kind of garbage will continue until it starts costing them big. They knew exactly what they were doing when the reported this "information" and did it for an express purpose.
It's sad to say but the concept of turning the other cheek to bullying like this while wonderful in theory is what has allowed the media to become what it has. The lies have got to stop going unchecked. Look at what they tried and continue to try to do to Sarah Palin's family. Until more people call them out on the lies and I hate to say it but hit them where it hurts financially, they will continue to bully and force their lies down peoples throats. And too many sheeple are ignorant about how much of this is happening and continue to believe the lies.
That actually sounds like a blast. One of those "traditions" that freshman both fear and can't wait for. We had a few things like that too. Who would ever think a bunch of fanatics like the supporters of Democrats are nowadays would start reporting them like they're the "real thing". It's crazy world. I did NOT sign on to drink the Kool-aid.
Gee. A few college kids getting drunk and forcing their friends to come out and engage in less-than intelligent behavior? You can color me shocked. I see this kind of thing almost every day. In fact, it kind of reminds me of my Army days… those were good times, I tell you.
I agree. Their initial coverage was over the line. I think he should sue.
mm, it WAS a BLAST AND A HALF! That's why I still remember it so clearly.
There was no corporal punishment involved, no alcohol involved, and no lawbreaking involved, as it was legal to ride in the back of a pickup then.
Just good, clean fun.
beware, too, the so-called 'Republican RINO's' who besmirch Mr Paul and Sharon Engle…
The Progressives are in BOTH parties, folks. The true conservatives are the outsiders who are not wholly owned subsidiaries of The Powers That Be, like McCain and others. Even the FOX ticker was blaming Ms Engle for being 'against all abortions no matter what, and thinks churches should endorse candidates' and such.
These purists freak out the establishment who has 'agreements' with each other. The populist fire they bring could be catching.
We surely hope so…
Ben Smith didn't waste any time. He put up another smear case against Paul today. It is pathetic in the extreme. Politico should be ashamed of employing this liberal hack. He has no business posting stuff that at least is supposed to pass for news. Disgrace. And no retraction was forthcoming. He doesn't have to, he is a liberal. Get the facts correct? Not important if you are a liberal.
I have leftist friends who eat this stuff up. I don't waste any time trying to change their minds because they have wholly absorbed the secular Progressive religion. I could no more change their mind than a Rabbi could convert the Pope to Judaism. It ain't happening!
There is a cultural and religious war going on in this country. If you value our founding documents and our culture, you need to get active. Your cultural enemies are tireless in their efforts to completely remake this country into a Progressive hell hole.
The GOP is now riding the Teaparty Tiger……
LOL, it's Waco. What the hell else were they going to do, look for mammoth bones?
Ahhh, but you left out so many good parts of Sargent's post.
Like:
"But she reiterated other odd aspects of her earlier story, including her claim that Paul and another college friend blindfolded her, tied her up, and told her to smoke pot and worship the "Aqua Buddha," even if they didn't physically force her to do these things."
And:
"She said they then "took me out to this creek and made me worship Aqua Buddha." And she added that the whole thing was so "weird" that afterwards she ended relations with Paul and his friends."
Doesn't sound like she was having fun.
Also, it's just possible that she's softening her story because it's put her in the crosshairs. She offers a window into her motivation for just such a change. "In our conversation, she elaborated that she doesn't want her name in print because she's a clinical psychologist who works with former members of the military, some of whom are Tea Partyers, and fears that complicating Paul's Senate run could put her in danger."
Afraid of rightwing violence. That's plenty good reason to change your story from the truth, eh?
So was this psychologist so ignorant to believe this 'story' of hers would not be used against Paul?
I think not, she's probably a lefty liberal but didn't realize how wild and crazy Smith could go with a tiny tid-bit
like she related. Well at least she seems to have a conscience.
If we think these attacks on Paul are wild, just wait and see what happens if Sarah Palin throws in her hat.
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This may be considered off point! But may I please interject a question to the readers of the B J. Do any of you feel like me when I say my picture of this day's and day's of the recent past United States of America, looks like the aftermath of two passenger trains that had just collided head on at about fifty miles per hour? But in this case instead of people coming to the need of the cause………people just walk on by as if there is nothing wrong! That's how I feel about this childish nonsense of never ever being able to have a civil national discussion regarding to ARTICLE 2 SECTION 1 anytime soon and at least long before the USURPER OBAMA eventually leaves OUR WHITE HOUSE! And if you try to tell them ….hey! there’s a train wreck over here, people need help! YOU’RE THEN TOLD TO SHUT UP! THIS IS NOT THE AMERICA OUR FOUNDING FATHERS INTENDED! WHY ARE WE DOING THIS TO OURSELVES?
Gee, someone is surprised that Ben Smith would lie? The guy is a co-conspirator in the biggest election fraud scheme of the last 100 years – bigger even than Joe Kennedy buying Illinois and someone is surprised?
I suppose then because of Mardi Gras '77 I could never be elected even to County Dogcatcher.
Oh, the debauchery. lol.
They are REALLY afraid of this man. He's getting the Sarah Palin treatment.
I once kidnapped the stuffiest person I know and drug him to a strip club.
Then I killed a man.
Absolutely. Take them to the cleaners. Destroy their careers, hasten their search for new employment.
So what you're saying is that you believe the source until you no longer believe the source.
Brilliant!
That sounds like normal small town hi-jinks to me…………….
The big Summers Last Blast Cruise and Car Show is happening in Vernon this weekend. The temp
is predicted to be 105 Fri and Sat. A couple of years ago we saw some college kids who had put a big
plastic tarp in a pick-up bed and filled it with water to cruise up and down main. After the 'classic cars'
have cruised for a couple of hours, bumper to bumper I might add, they open the cruise up to all vehicles.
It was hilarious to see the water sloshing out when the driver hit the brakes on that pick-up. Some of the
guys riding in the back had on their swim trunks, but others were sitting up almost to their armpits in water
but wearing their jeans. We had a blast watching them get up and dance at each traffic light and beg the
girls standing along the sidewalks to get in to ride with them. In the past there were drag races down the middle of town after midnight, but they put a stop to that a couple of years ago.
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Exactly. LOL.
"I believe what I want to believe and disregard the rest. You're all wrong."
Maybe she doesn't want her name in print because it's unprofessional in her line of work to jabber about public figures. Maybe her patients, not just those crazy Tea Partiers, might think twice about using her services if they fear she'll one day tell their stories to others.
It was a stupid college stoner prank. No harm done. She dumped them because she didn't like it so big deal.
Can we please see Obama's college transcripts now?
You don't need to see Obama's college transcripts.
Beyond that, I can think of a lot of reasons why someone would play along with a prank like this even if they're not having fun. Such as expecting it to get funnier, but it doesn't. Just for starters.
at least she had the self respect to defend him. A good moral woman she is, in this case at least
How come we know about Ron Paul's college days, but Obama's is wiped out, and we still don't know who this 'Bamm is?
This is BS!
And just what does she think the Tea Partiers would do to her? I think it's more likely those clients are in danger from this delusional twit who basically just smeared them. They should sue her.
Seriously, what kind of clinical psychologist says something like that about their patients? She's a nut.
If I've got to see every little smudge of other politicians college activities, I darn well do need to see Obama's college transcripts. Don't tell me they aren't relevant if this is supposed to be.
As far as how she felt at the time, I think your assessment is correct. But it doesn't mean she ever felt she was in danger. And, as I said, she dumped them. Doesn't sound like they pursued her afterward in any harmful way, so who cares? And she's a nutjob who thinks the Tea Party's comin' after her while she smears her own patients. Please.
Keep her talkin' folks, the fun's just beginning. Rand Paul should sue Ben Smith. And the patients she smeared should sue the good doctor.
According to Progressing, she doesn't want her name in print because she's afraid her ex-military Tea Party patients might hurt her. What kind of clinical psychologist says that about her patients? And just what, based on the facts known, is fear of the Tea Party based on?
She's a nut. The entire story is suspect. I hope Paul sues the hell out of the lot of them. And I'm not even a fan.
His middle name isn't Kerry for nothin
More likely, she's afraid an SEIU goon will come to her home and bite her fingers off.
Dizzy yet?
That's a heck of a lot more likely to happen than a Tea Partier going after her. This is how the smear works. All the political violence has come from the left, but they continue to say the Tea Partiers are the scary ones. They're either delusional or they're liars. Likely both.
You stinking slime ball."Boy, you guys know how to pick 'em". Did we vote in the pathetic jackass in the WH, or was that you libtards?
Now be fair. Remember how aggressively GQ pursued details about Obama's cocaine usage.
Oh. Wait!
What part of the sham of "an anonymous source" do you not get? Duh.
The left would have this in court before the ink on the lawsuit was dry,Mr Paul needs to bring the full extent of the law down on these commies,only problem is that somehow the case would end up on Holders desk,you know the rest of the story.
Blah, blah, blah, same tired old nonsense, blah, blah, blah.
Go find some Birthers to peddle your nonsense to.
Does anybody remember Obama admitting to snorting cocaine? Who cares if Rand Paul was into the aqua buddha? Maybe he and Slick Willie can get together and swap old war stories?
"thinks churches should endorse candidates' and such."
Wait, don't black churches do that all the time for Democrats?
"Also, it's just possible that she's softening her story because it's put her in the crosshairs."
Also it's possible that you're a reactionary leftist kool-aid drinking moron.
"Afraid of rightwing violence. "
A moron AND a shameless liar.
Great combo you got working there, Tonto.
They won't be able to hang on for that eight second ride.
The shite in their britches will make the GOP slide off and come up with a mouth full of arena dirt.
Lies, damned lies, and liberal media
Below is a legitimate question of Constitutional law that has nothing to do with Obama's birth certificate or where he was born. To understand this question, you must first read what Obama posted on his own website:
"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Read that last sentence carefully and again, and then ask yourself this question:
How can the status at birth of a natural born citizen of the United States of America be "governed" by the laws of Great Britain?
Yes, those cwwaazzzy Tea Partiers, who are so violent that…erm…uhm…wait a minute. We don't have any evidence on file to support that claim. I know facts don't bother you, but hey, when you can pick and choose what to believe about a person's claim, I guess that says everything that needs to be said about your integrity.
Now, now, everyone. We know that what happened in college is relevant ONLY if you're a conservative. If you're a liberal, hey, you can snort it up, shoot it up, not "inhale", and even RAPE women and you'll get a pass. Now if only Paul had cheated on his wife and embraced AGW, liberals would love him.
The same way American law can govern the status of a child born outside the U.S. to a citizen of a foreign country: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/usc.cgi?A...
Sec. 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, [exemption for military service and military dependents] This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
Or are you suggesting the laws of Great Britain trump the laws of the United States of American on the sovereign territory of the United States?
There has been no Tea Party violence. The only violence was perpetrated by Lefties (see Gladney). Lefties are famous for causing violence at protests.
You are a POS; crawl back under your rock.
Paul comes across as a stupid college student who was a stoner! Wow, color me surprised! Have you actually been to college f–ktard?
Can we please see Obama's college transcripts now?
Like Obama, I attended Columbia University. Unlike him, I'm willing to show my college transcript to anyone who wishes to see it. In fact, I've posted it to my Facebook profile. Just click on my avatar, then follow the link to Facebook.
Fun fact about the British Nationality Act of 1948:
It only passes on citizenship to legitimate children.
Since Barack Obama Sr. was married at the time of his "marriage" to Stanley Ann Dunham, according to American law, that marriage was invalid. That means little Barry is a you know what. It also means he did not gain British Nationality by descent from his father.
Of course that again requires British law to be superior to American law on American soil to be particularly relevant.
Careful, these desparte clowns will keep this record and swear it;s true if you ever decide to get involved in public life.
The President goes on "The View" and Gentleman's Quarterly is used as a source for political discourse, what the hell must the rest of the world think of this freak show.
I hope they do — and I hope they keep a screen cap or something as proof.
Otherwise, it'll simply drift into the realm of bizarre accusations with no documented evidence.
You are allowed to commit ridiculous college pranks only if your last name is Kennedy. Right Mary Jo?
Somebody forgot to take their anti-psychotics again.
i wonder if anyone at GQ has asked Larry Sinclair for an interview
I'm going to keep saying this:
Please ignore the troll. Every time someone responds to his provocations, it pleases him. That's his purpose in coming here–to get under your skin, not to have any sort of reasonable exchange. He feeds on your animosity. Nothing you can say shames him. In fact, the more abuse you heap on him, the better he likes it. It may make you feel better to jump down his throat, but it makes him feel great–especially when he hijacks the thread.
Nothing he can say to me will cause me to respond to him. Please join with me. You want him gone? Ignore him.
Take the pledge: I will henceforth ignore trolls.
You are such a pathetic sick little boy who sounds like has been deprived of your mothers breast feeding and you are telling me to SHUT UP! You salivate when you see my posting's don't you? That's how sick you are! The point of this post was to have a civil discussion which I said can't be done and you have proven to all who read Big Government my exact point! Who in the phuck do you think you are you little anti-American creep? I asked you in the past why do you follow me around? Thought maybe you would learn something, but apparently not! GROW UP LITTLE FREAKY BOY! LITTLE BOY! LITTLE BOY! LITTLE BOY!
Insult them, ding them, but don't waste your time suffering fools…….life's too short….
I imagine that the GQ reporter didn't recognize college hijinks because he never got invited to participate by the cool kids. Sort of like the ugly fat girls who join NOW so they can make all women equally shabby, because they never got dates in school.
Progressing, is regressing what a bone headed comment. lol she fears the violent Tea Party military who by all stats have a lower percentage of violent actions and crims than civilians. It is the rabid left wing liberals that do the violence. Ask Billy Ayers and his lovely bride they are proud and wish they could kill more. What a tool.
Yeh….
And back when we had LAWYERS these cretins, libelers, slanderers and liars would ALL have already been served, multiple suits filed, priority court dates obtained "due to possible damage to his political run"
AND THESE IDIOTS WOULD BE FUNDING PAUL'S CAMPAIGN!!!
Too dam bad our lawyers are all sitting out this administration in Tahiti with their "no tort reform" payola, huh. Cause THAT would have been a NO BRAINER, TAKE IT ON PURE CONTINGENCY CAUSE WE'RE GONNA MAKE A BLOODY FORTUNE, SLAM DUNK LAWSUIT!
If we still had lawyers.
Wow. This^^
This guy is like a stalker! He follows me around to sabotage my posting's. This is not the first time I have had to contend with this freak! Like one of Pavlov's dogs he begins to salivate whenever he see's a post about Article 2 Section 1 and he needs professional psychiatric help!
I suggest you progress yourself over to the WH and snort a few with your beloved.
Never vetted,remember that!
The point of this post was to have a civil discussion
Who in the phuck do you think you are you little anti-American creep?
GROW UP LITTLE FREAKY BOY! LITTLE BOY! LITTLE BOY! LITTLE BOY!
Wow. This^^
All the MSM is part of the JournOlist. This is just an example of how they destroy opposition. It works on the ignorant and indoctrinated, unfortunately. The only answer is to call them on it where you work and everywhere else you go. Call every last MSM reference used by anyone at any time a probable lie. Keep everyone you know aware of what they do. Not just about politics, but in sports, entertainment and anything else they mention. Question any MSM reference. They always slant a story, make everyone keep that at the front of their minds.
Rightwing violence? What "rightwing violence" are you referring to?
She's a clinical psychologist who helps Tea Partiers (and who needs more mental help, really?)
By definition, no one is better equipped to judge what her clients are capable of.
So, if she says she's afraid of them, I have no problem believing her.
Read the threads. I get threatened here all the time.
"Rumor control. Testing: 1, 2, 3. Rumor control."
This is what the anti american left does when they are desperate. They know that there in deep sh** come November so they have to lie and cheat there way to victory. Fu***** scum bags!!
Woody..
Explain. Which is the rumor, the rumor IN the story or the story ABOUT the rumor?
Wow, its nice to see all the Birthers who hate American sovereignty and the supremacy of American law.
So you Birthers also hate the fact that Obama is illegitimate because it means it upsets your scheme to challenge his citizenship?
Pathetic.
per my post at the back of the bus here:
Yeh….
Back when we had LAWYERS WHO, LIKE PRACTICED LAW, these cretins, libelers, slanderers and liars would ALL have already been served, multiple suits filed, priority court dates obtained "due to possible damage to his political run"
AND THESE IDIOTS WOULD BE FUNDING PAUL'S CAMPAIGN!!!
Too dam bad all our lawyers are all sitting out this administration in Tahiti with their "no tort reform" payola cause DUDES… THAT would be a flat NO BRAINER, TAKE IT ON PURE CONTINGENCY CAUSE WE'RE GONNA MAKE A BLOODY FORTUNE, SLAM DUNK LAWSUIT!
If we still had lawyers.
How amusing. GQ will try to judge and smear Rand Paul from its high moral horse. Meanwhile Obama's Safe School Czar is peddling gay porn and child porn to kids. I see how it is.
If that's true, chuckles, then I'm exceedingly disappointed in my fellow conservatives…
Threatening underachieving baristas and book store clerks is just plain wrong.
Regarding the smearing of Paul and Engle by the GOP
A LIST WOULD BE HANDY. MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE PRIMARIES.
Darby,
What's a SHAME is that NOBODY unless Fox takes him on has the ACCESS TO CALL HIM OUT AND DEMAND HE BACK HIS STATEMENTS WITH FACT.
If Fox doesn't do it….or Limbaugh….to ALL THESE LIARS, then the lies will stand unchallenged. What's the point of having huge audiences if you don't use that to stop smear campaigns like they pounce on the race card charges?
Especially when you can't win an argument with them. Because facts aren't on your side.
on matters such as this we trust SarahPac (yes, THAT Sarah) to properly vet the candidates. As the season progresses- the primaries are over-
expect more detailed information…
Yeh well nobody on either side of this strawman issue is paying the slightest heed to the honkin huge majority of people who find the topic of God and religion anthetical and out of place in politics, as did our Founders who only guaranteed freedom of religion but carefully REMOVED IT from government or the political process.
I'm growing weary of pontificating protestants, muslim whiners, catholic busy bodies and wall eyed Bible thumpers draggin God into every political debate. It's little different or better than draggin race into every issue.
What exactly does God have to do with the economy, States' Rights, or national monetary and economic policy?
I'm surprised she was able to even relate this story or go before the microphone to recant since it's obvious she's a mute.
Otherwise, if she was, as she said, taken against her will….she would have SCREAMED BLOODY MURDER AT HER APARTMENT DOOR AND ALL THE WAY TO THE CAR….RIGHT?
Didn't know Ben knew sign language. huh…..interesting.
Why would anyone have leftist friends? They would sell you to the ovens in a split second.
If my mother was a leftist I would never have further contact.
The left has murdered over 200 milion since 1916 and you want to have them as friends?
Noooooo
A GOOD, MORAL WOMAN WOULD NEVER HAVE OPENED HER MOUTH ABOUT IT TO ANYONE, LET ALONE A JOURNALIST!
SHE'S AN ATTENTION SEEKING PUBLICITY HOUND WHO SHOULD PROVE HER SLANDER OR BE SUED INTO BANKRUPTCY.
Yeh….
She should have gone with Rollin Stone. They still know how to do a proper HATCHET JOB!
Please give us one example of Tea Party/Patriot violence. You might start with those violent Tea Party members from the SEIU or the UAW,
One example please. Just one you lying cretin.
You need to tell us what we're linking to Washington. Not many folks click on blind links. Too many "jiggy" sites out there.
About a month ago here someone put up a link and more than a few folks ended up with a virus or trojan….either way messed up a lot of computers. Could be a safe site but some firewalls and security systems still freak out.
Just a blurb about what we're bein pointed to or the host site would be sufficient.
Thanks
Oh yeh……..I forgot President "I didn't inhale" and President "I did not get that young girl pregnant OR have sex with that woman."
Riiiiiiight……only Repubs must be ethical, honest, and CELEBATE!
ooops….sorry Newt….miss the cut on THAT ONE by a country mile.
LOL.
I believe France has weighed in on that one…..several times. Now Germany and England are too. Seems our CAMERA HOG IN CHIEF just can't seem to get the whole,
YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, MORON, NOT A CONTESTANT ON LET'S MAKE A DEAL!
quirt,
There are a couple of folks with red flags who, when approached civilly and asked thoughtful questions, actually engage in the same manner, and I've found at least two who have made valid points and were very open to debate and discussion.
Look at the responses most red flag posters get….right off the bat. How are those smack down posts any different than a troll bait post?
I have found if you try at least once to talk WITH folks about points and issues and facts, they usually respond in kind. If they still don't, then I do ignore them, but if they really engage….I disregard the red flag.
There is something also to be said of posters who just automatically thumbs down any red flagged post they see, without even reading it. In fact more than once I've seen pure conservative ideas, pure Constitutional support and everything Tea Party posted by one such red flag guy and before 9am he already had 25 thumbs down…..for defending the very things Tea Party folks are clamoring for in gov't.
Tells me folks didn't bother to even read the message….just hit the thumbs down button and moved on.
Like I said, just because a person disagrees with a conservative article does not automatically make them a troll. Read what they have to say. Many times you'll find they have valid points. I mean it ain't like the GOP is bullet proof or in any way less responsible for this mess. In fact they have every chance right now of queering this golden opportunity election by STILL IGNORING US….BY ASSUMING A VOTE AGAINST A DEM IS AN ENDORSEMENT OF THEM.
That would be their little secret.
Okay,
I'll play. Which facts are we talkin here.
E,
I kind of agree. I don't see Joe or Kouric emailing these guys for how to spin a story but it is no coincidence that every interview they do with like minded folks makes me feel like a peeping Tom and every interview they do with "the other side" makes me feel like I need to dial 911 and get the guest some help, lol!
Matthews, Olberman….a whole raft of TV journalists….don't really see them swallowing their egos and "discussing" how to spin something. Far too egotistical. Hell they believe they SET THE DEBATE in America, lol.
That would be their little secret.
OOOOOO…..no fair bein cryptic, d,
I'd be VERY interested in a SarahPac. Don't be a tease….tell us what you can.
What? The facts you Progressives are pulling out of your collective asses? Crap in….crap out….
You know, those guys who blow up federal buildings and kill abortionists.
I read EVERY post I thumb one way or the other, and have even thumbed up Trolls when they make valid points.
This is beneath you P,
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First I agree there has to be something to this story in the bare bones facts or it would be pulp fiction. That said, God help any of us if we got busted for things we did while shitfaced drunk in highschool or college, lol. I think EVERYONE'S school records should be put under court order, bwahaha. I KNOW mine should and I'd hate to think I'd be judged one day for something patently illegal that I QUIET INNOCENTLY GOT SUCKERED INTO INVOLVING A GOAT, A BRA, AND THREE THOUSAND JELLO SHOTS……BUT I DIGRESS
It is pretty much common knowledge that most folks who go into Psychology, as both parties did, do so initially to discover or battle their own demons. Neither should be held accountable for being IMPERFECT. If that was the criteria….welll…
But one glaring fact remains, regardless of who, what, or where in this story. If that GIRL was not a MUTE nobody could have tied her up and dragged her out of her apartment without everyone in the building hearing her SCREAM BLOODY MURDER.
If she didn't then the rest is…….well……..goats, bras, jello shots and the typically stupid actions of kids away from mommy and daddy.
I would like to state for the record….THE GOAT WAS A WILLING PARTICIPANT!
…besides, he LIKED the beer!
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it's Palin's Political Action Committee… she is raising funds to be disbursed to the most conservative candidate in each race. It is NOT allied with the GOP. This amazing woman (Todd is a VERY lucky man) is single handedly reshaping the electorate. Her first 'loss' as it were, was in the GA primary yesterday, a cliffhanger. But the GOP candidate is acceptable. She will most likely win the Reid/Engle Senate race in Nevada with her support.
That, and whatever rises from the 28 August Glenn Beck soiree' at the Lincoln memorial. There'll be a half million- or more- there. Imagine that-
the two people the left hates- and fears- the most, Beeck and Palin.
Wonder why…
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