A week ago, news began to break in San Francisco about a targeted gay-bashing crime that allegedly occurred on February 26.
Three cousins from Hayward have been charged in San Francisco with a hate crime and assault for allegedly firing a BB rifle at the face of a man they believed was gay, an attack the men videotaped, authorities said Wednesday.
Investigators believe the assailants chose the victim because he appeared to be gay. When the men were pulled over, police found a video camera that was used to film the shooting, investigators said.
Clearly, of course, this had to be a Christian right-wing, tea party, anti-government, bigoted homophobe from the South. Right?

The three men, Shafiq Hashemi, 21, Sayed Bassam, 21, and Mohammad Habibzada, 24, the driver, were arrested.
According to [police spokesman Officer Samson] Chan, they allegedly admitted to the crime.
“The suspects did make a confession, basically stating that they came to San Francisco to target gay people,” he said.
But what is strange about the media reports is that the identity group, nor the motives, of these three “urban youths” is never mentioned in any news accounts. San Francisco Chronicle get it right? No dice. How about the local TV stations? Get real. The Associated Press?
Ha!
Imagine, if you will, that the BB gun attackers had been white. Or from Utah. Or from Texas. Or Laramie, Wyoming. What kind of wild adjectives would have been applied? We can only surmise. Editorializing against mainstream Americans who are now out-of-favor by the media (whites, Catholics, evangelicals, Mormons, conservatives) happens everyday on America’s front pages and network news programs. But when it comes to Arab/Muslim attackers — all silence is golden for the American media.
Predictably, the gay media outlets and left-wing bloggers continued their head-in-sand approach in the reporting of this Muslim-on-gay violence in America’s homo mecca. The leading gay magazine in America, the Advocate, is silent about the identity or motives of the men aside from their names. Again, one can only imagine if these were “Christianists” on an anti-gay BB gun field trip to San Francisco.
The silence of the Muslim angle is also deafening by left-wing gay bloggers Towleroad, JoeMyGod. But at least they took notice. No such luck over at Pam’s House Blend and Andrew Sullivan’s Daily Dish. You would think Sullivan, who once claimed to recognize the threat to gays by Islamic radicals, would have picked up on the story. Nope. Andrew must not have heard about the incident. Convenient.

Folks who aren’t in tune with the American gay community need to understand something fundamental. The gay liberal activists and thought leaders that make policy and advocacy decisions have long ignored the existential threat to gays and lesbians by Islamic extremism. Liberal “gay rights” groups such as the Human Rights Campaign, the Gill Foundation, and the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force are far more concerned about attacking American Christians on a daily basis than facing the real threat to gays around the world.

I’ve never seen this kind of display in a public square in America. Keep in mind, this was an Iranian government-sanctioned, religious-law execution performed because these teenagers were accused of being gay.
The hangings of gays is routine punishment in Iran and other Islamic-ruled nations. But the American Gay Establishment is too concerned about court-forced marriage, educational indoctrination of kids and Federal funding to worry about such trivial matters as systematic killing of gays by Islamic regimes. Or the looming threat to American gays and lesbians on our shores.
Just last month, the blog Creeping Sharia reported on disturbing comments by Vanderbilt University’s Muslim chaplain.
I go with what Islam teaches,” said Awadh A. Binhazim, who is listed on the Vanderbilt website as “Adjunct Professor of Islam at the Divinity School” and an adviser to the Muslim Student Association. His comments came earlier this week at a diversity event for students.
He was asked directly, “Under Islamic law is it punishable by death if you are a homosexual?”
Binhazim said, “Yes. It is punishable by death.”
Lovely. Watch the video and realize that this is happening on a college campus in Nashville, Tennessee, not Saudi Arabia.
But hey — let’s demonize, character assassinate and hunt down American Christians who oppose gay marriage first, shall we? Priorities.
It is also important to note that the fundamental philosophies of a majority of the American gay activist community have been rooted with elements of anti-capitalism, anti-democracy, anti-war, and anti-Israeli sentiment for the past three decades. You could not have attended an anti-Iraq war rally in 2003-2007 without seeing many rainbow flags (the unofficial symbol of gays and lesbians) mixed in with pro-communist, anti-capitalist, anti-Bush and anti-American signs, symbols and chants.
In order to be gay and part of “the community” in America, you must first renounce “the mainstream,” your individualism, liberty, capitalism, the Constitution, the basic right to vote and your patriotism. All those checked? Join the club!
To fight against Islamic terror against gays is completely foreign to the DNA of the American gay establishment. To them the enemies are Republicans, white and straight men, and the US military.
When it comes to the threat of Muslim-on-gay violence in San Francisco or around the world, the American gay community truly takes a “don’t ask, don’t tell” approach.






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"America's homo mecca?" Dude. Seriously.
Oh please, Shafiq Hashemi, Sayed Bassam, and Mohammad Habibzada are very common names at my Christian church.
A Christian/Muslim pact might just save America. But it's only a dream.
Looks like the gays are showing their bigotted intolerance to religious people.
Well if San Francisco isn't, what is? Why the comment? Is it the word "Mecca" combined in an article about Muslim youths offensive? That's like being offended by calling Chicago the mecca of deep-dish pizza.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. If conservatives are worried about Islamic fundamentalists, then the gay activists are with them. I'm sure if you ask them, they would tell you this would never have happened if Bush hadn't invaded Iraq.
The term race- traitor has been coined, does this mean gays attacking christians for their beliefs and blow off (no pun intended) muslim murdering are stupid, thus irradicating the steriotype of gays being above avg. intelligence. But there are exceptions, I've met many a smart conservative gay.
[...] My second post is up at Big Journalism! I’ll give you a preview, but you have to go there to read the whole thing. Imagine, if you will, that the BB gun attackers [in San Fran] had been white. Or from Utah. Or from Texas. Or Laramie, Wyoming. What kind of wild adjectives would have been applied? We can only surmise. Editorializing against mainstream Americans who are now out-of-favor by the media (whites, Catholics, evangelicals, Mormons, conservatives) happens everyday on America’s front pages and network news programs. But when it comes to Arab/Muslim attackers — all silence is golden for the American media. [...]
Let muslims, liberal and gay media continue to "hide their heads in the sand". It will just further their self-imposed marginalization. We can already see their decline. I hope it continues.
I wonder, will Morris Dees and The Southern Poverty Law Center be on the scene to investigate?
The mind-numbing 'political correctness' of the the Left in general, and homosexuals in particular, can get them killed…
…and all of us, eventually.
Islam is both a political system and a religion. It is a statist, totalitarian system that seeks to destroy all other religions and political systems. Cooperation with statists leads inexorably to statism. In short, Islam is by its nature incompatible with both Christianity and with liberty, and thus with the guarantees of liberty in the US Constitution.
I thought it was rather clever of the author, actually. LOL
No, it would never work. Christianity wants you to choose to do right. Islam compels it, often on pain of death.
Liberals would rather be politically correct than ALIVE.
Do these gay 'activists' think that somehow they will be spared from Islamic facists, once the US government is destroyed or neutered?
Silence in the face of a real and lasting threat, promotes ignorance and willful blindness.
Gays are an integral part of the Liberal/Progressive statist movement. Thus, they are in favor of anything that weakens the guarantees of liberty found in the Constitution and in the fabric of our history. Islam is both a religion and a statist totalitarian political system that seeks to destroy all other forms of religion and government. Islam weakens liberty in the US, and thus the Gay/Progressive movement doesn't just ignore it, they condone it.
To every statist, promoting Progressivism isn't just the main thing, it's the ONLY thing they are interested in. Gays are no exception. Neither are any other Progressives who also happen to belong to any other "minority" group. None of this should be a shock to anyone, by now.
يبدو تلك الماعز حدب المسلمين في الامر مرة اخرى. الله أكبر! لا استطيع ان ننتظر لنرى سان فران نان في الثوب.
At least he was finally honest in his answer. I asked a Muslim who was on a local talk radio show how they dealt with the Principle of Abrogation, and only got the runaround. Too bad, his honesty won't be heard or believed by the gay community, useful idiots indeed.
Liberal and the MSM are not playing for the American team.
No. It's like calling Chicago America's coon mecca, not like calling Chicago the mecca of deep-dish pizza. It's the use of a derogatory term to refer to any minority group. It is wrong. Plain and simple. It discredits the author, his article and this website for allowing it to be posted. It hurts all of us, it lessens what we are trying to achieve here. Tolerating it on this website makes us all look like ignorant bigots. That is what feeds the liberal hate machine; it allows them to show this kind of posting as evidence.
when contemplating the future, one wonders what will be the response from gays when Muslim youths round up homosexuals throughout the world and execute them. Will they continue to vote for the likes of Obama? Or, as has been the case in the past, will they will run to their parents (conservatives) to save them. One curious thing I came across recently, was that in Afghanistan there is an enclave of homsexuals who run around much like they do in San Fransicko. When the Taliban was in power they were afraid to confront this particular tribe. Was this becuase the Taliban are closet homsexuals? I don't think so. I think it is because this tribe actually had lots of weapons and were prepared to defend themselves. This obviously can't happen in San Fran or europe because the dummy's are the ones insisting noone have guns. Oh what a crazed world.
Stated goals of the Communist Party, from the Congressional Record, 1963, include:
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
The gay rights movement and modern "acceptance" of homosexuality owes everything to Progressivism. It is their master, and gay Progressives are its very willing slaves.
Your link didn't work………
Muslim societies are backward and regressive. In the next 40 years India, China will reestablish there cultural greatness but the Muslim world will remain retarded as it has spent the last 1300 years.
I can think of no greater curse than to leave with Islam.
Ah, it must be the word "homo." I didn't know "homo" and "coon" were cut from the same cloth, at least for some people. Me? Not so much. And if you think the "liberal hate machine" needs to source this site as evidence of hate, you're living in a fantasy world. They make it up as they go along.
I agree with you.
The liberal hate machine is located in Oz. They don't need this site. Just aske Eric Massa.
It's amazing to me how people will stay silent to their own detrimate to satisfy some politically correct code . Where are the comments from the gay people? Why don't you speak out against muslims the way you do christians? That question has always baffled me. Christians vote against gay marriage, muslims vote against gay life. Is there really any comparision?
OMG! You said the "R" word!!!!
If anything, "Paul" proves the point that this article is making.
He sees the picture of two teenagers being hanged ("accused" of being homosexual) in Iran. Does that motivate any "outrage" from this guy?
No.
It's the "audacity" of this site that dared use an "offensive" word.
How absurd.
"Now cut that out" – Jack Benny
One need only to look at what has happened in Great Britain to see the future of our world. They are so PC that they are destroying their country. And where have the likes of NOW and NARL been when seeing what the Islamic nuts do to the women of their culture? As mentioned above, Islam is not a religion! It is a way of life with courts, juries and executioners all in one. It is a religion of what you cannot do in every aspect of your life and it proscribes the punishment for that transgression. Any Muslim will follow the laws of Sharia before the laws of our nation. If the gays are too dumb to realize that then they will pay with their heads, literally.
Two words: Geert Wilders
too bad the talking heads at Fox have been bashing him.
these aren't sheepherders in Laramie, Wyoming………….well maybe that's not the best choice of locations.
welcome to the barbary coast, really this time.
Damn. The only arabic I know is numbers. Had to figure out which floor I was going to in elevators, or how far away we were from our destination on street signs in Dubai.
Progressives, populists, intellectuals, elitests, liberals, gays, all these social/political groups pushing for a Socialist America should be careful what they wish for.
Somehow they think a new Socialist America will look to them as heroes and leaders, that they will reap the rewards of a government run utopia which will take care of their every need.
They really should study history and find out who will be rounded up and exterminated FIRST, pre WWII Russia would be a good place to start. Social parasites, enemies of the people, government bureaucrats, minorities, deviants, rounded up and either shot or sent to the Gulag labor camps to die, about 20 million in all.
I'm guessing that your public indoctrination school education did not spend much time on that part of history, right? Other than a few rulers, Socialism only allows silent, dumb workers.
Video – The Obama Deception
http://usataxpayer.org/?0071119896
Be Good Pinkos, Hand in Your Guns
http://usataxpayer.org/?0079012351
A veritable Homosexual Revolution!
Socialism
Ah, Abrogation. The 'dirty little secret' that the muslim apologists don't want anyone to know about.
Shout it from the rooftops, my brother.
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Alas, the term "gay" is generally accepted to mean anyone who is homosexual. I agree that not all homosexuals are Progressives/Liberals, but certainly anyone who is part of the gay rights movement is, by definition, a Progressive. One cannot be in favor of granting special rights to minority groups of any sort without being a statist.
My understanding from homosexual friends and acquaintances is that acceptance into the "family," the "gay community," is conditioned on a great deal of conformity with the politically correct values that most people associate with the gay rights movement. It is very, very tough (from my understanding) to be openly conservative and yet be a member of the gay community.
Doubtful. As the article succinctly points out, there will be no outrage from the left unless the accused is from podunk, Idaho, or a 'right-wing' hate group, like white people, or…..white people.
Progressives, populists, intellectuals, elitests, liberals, gays, all these social/political groups pushing for a SociaIist America should be careful what they wish for.
Somehow they think a new SociaIist America will look to them as heroes and leaders, that they will reap the rewards of a government run utopia which will take care of their every need.
They really should study history and find out who will be rounded up and exterminated FIRST, pre WWII Russia would be a good place to start. Social parasites, enemies of the people, government bureaucrats, minorities, deviants, rounded up and either shot or sent to the Gulag labor camps to die, about 20 million in all.
I'm guessing that your public indoctrination school education did not spend much time on that part of history, right? Other than a few rulers, SociaIism only allows silent, dumb workers.
Video – The Obama Deception
http://usataxpayer.org/?0071119896
Be Good Pinkos, Hand in Your Guns
http://usataxpayer.org/?0079012351
"The hangings of gays is routine punishment in Iran and other Islamic-ruled nations"
heh – there are no gay people in Iran, ah who cair's
Yes, it is a dream because it would only work in fantasy.
Islam and liberty go together like Bill Maher and humility.
Gays are used by liberals when they need them as a mascot for a liberal cause.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. This can’t be right! Ahmadenijad said there were no gays in Iran.
Unfortunately, alot gets lost in the reverse Google translator.
Allah-u akbar comes back as "Aleilulia" (sp).
Didn't Ach! My Gin is Bad say that there were no homosexuals in Iran when he was at Columbia a few years ago?
I think we all know why, but the homosexuals in the audience at the time sat on their hands.
Good point… the picture is what stuck with me… it's probably going to distrub me all day…
Prosecute these muslim perverts. Stick them in prison so they can be welcomed with open, whatever.
No, they will still ignore it. Their dedication to Progressivism is all that matters to them. By this, I mean that the "gay movement" homosexuals will ignore it; other homosexuals really have no voice in the MSM.
[...] Big Journalism: Media and gay rights movement are afraid to confront violence against gays when it is done by Muslims. [...]
UltraC, inspectorudy, et.al
I am a lesbian and my politics run towards the traditionalist/conservative side. I waved bye-bye to the last of my liberal illusions 15 years ago. I agree with much of what you all have had to say and I am a lonely voice in the wilderness when it comes to my gay brethern. I have few gay friends because of my politics. Let me throw a further theory out there. What could gays and Arabs possibly have in common? The desire to have sex with underage boys. Why else do the major gay groups make room for NAMBLA under their tents (even if they are kept very hush, hush)? And everyone knows from their history that Greeks and Arabs had sex with young boys as a matter of course. The Greeks do not have that attitude anymore, but the Arabs…..did you ever wonder why they degrade their women so much? They hate women and love men. Anyone with me?
"…then the leftist gay activists are with them."
But they're not, are they? They're missing in action because leftist gay activists believe the higher priority is to destroy the traditional way of life in America – just like the Islamic fundamentalists.
So, you point is correct: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." The enemy of Islamic fundamentalists and leftist gay activists is the same – the traditional way of life in America. Thus the leftist gay activists do not criticize Islamic fundamentalists and Islamic fundamentalists are reluctant to criticize leftist gay activists in the West.
I remember when people just did'nt want meddled with, and that was their goal, not special priveledges. Activists want special rights and get in your face with whom they are, what occurs with consenting adults in private is generally accepted, except by people who hate themselves. An activist who wants a church to go against established mores or they should be destroyed hates themselves and should be prayed for and helped to accept themselves as one of the variety of God's children who is loved for just existing.
I would've said "Bill Maher and humor", but yours works too.
Only if there's some money to be made out of it
the hypocrisy of the gay community is so obvious… like the feminists who ignore the Palin bashing.. and the CBC, who like to yell 'racism'! at every turn, but seem to ignore any kind of racial statements when they come from a liberal. these groups all lack convictions, as much as they try to appear righteous.
Are you kidding? They* murdered gay Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn- not a peep from the Dutch gay community. Gangs of Mahometan 'youths' roam Amsterdam beating up gays- silence.
You see, Muslims are a Certified Victim Group and can do no wrong. Since as people of (perceived) color they rank higher on the Oppression Scale than white homosexuals, they get to attack them at will- this is the perverse 'moralty' of the Left.
*Yes- although he was killed by a kook environmentalist, it was at the behest of the Followers of Mahound.
Hey lost, wouldn't that be the "Barbary Boxer Coast"?
JohnK144 wins. Flawless Victory.
When Christians to got Israel they are spat on.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?it...
If it doesn't fit their paradigm, they won't choose to acknowledge it. Muslims are the fellow oppressed; therefore, they are brothers in the fight.
Projection.
USSR funded rabble rousers were behind the Unionization movement in the US. They believed that the Industry Bosses and the workers would never compromise with each other and a war would result. However, compromises were made and both sides benifitted. For a while.
USSR funded rabble rousers were also behind part of the Civil Rights movement, trying to create violent confrontations that was to degenerate into a race war. Why? Russians despise Blacks and they would never treat Blacks as equals. They projected that into the US, being misled by the slavery era.
The "intellectuals" who came up with the two points you mention believed that those two points would destroy the US, because they were control freak prudes who believed that "uncontrolled behavior" was destroying the USSR. They did not realize that none of that was really important.
("Promiscuity" and "Degeneracy"? Specifics, please. Some would argue I am a degenerate for admiring the butt on a woman young enough to be my grand daughter.)
It has been speculated that one of the newer suicide bomber recruiting tactics is for an older man to rape a young boy and then shame him into thinking that he needs to blow himself up to gain redemption.
Agreed. I didn't really notice it when I read the first time, I had to go back and look for it again.
Well, considering muhammed said that not only will they get 72 virgins, but also young boys "like pearls", speaks volumes.
Hatred of God is the gay communities number One and ONLY issue
Islam and San Francisco – I can't think of 2 groups more deserving of each other.
When I hear this stuff, I really do pity these folks. Not the hard-minded extreme activists and leaders, but the poor youth of America who experience same-sex attraction. These kids get led down the garden path and shoved into a "gay box" that tells them "you're gay- here's how you should act, where you should hang out, and what you should care about". I think there is a lot more peer pressure to conform within the gay community than there is within a traditonal values household.
Actually JohnK144 proves my point. How does he know I'm not outraged by the photo? Talk about liberals making it up as they go!
Also, this site is here to point out the hypocrisy of the liberal MSM and to hold them accountable. Do we do that by being hypocritical and not holding ourselves accountable?
The author uses a slur while ridiculing the MSM for not covering what is not a hate crime. If it's illegal to commit homosexual acts in Iran and the punishment is death and they committed those acts then it's not a hate crime to put them to death. It's repugnant, ignorant and disgusting, but it is not a crime in Iran. They are a sovereign nation with their own laws, however stupid I think they may be.
Why don't you tolerate their religion if you expect others to tolerate yours? You don't like it so much when someone points out your own hate and intolerance. This site doesn't need hateful bigots, it needs intelligent input from credible sources. Dumbells who don't even know they're using offensive language when they are don't belong here. (Remember how upset these sites got when Harry Reid made his comments about Barry O. Can't have it both ways, ladies). You make us real conservatives look bad.
" who cair's" +1
That's sick and perverse enough to be credible!
"Bill Maher" and "photogenic".
You spit on the English language.
Nah, they are currently fixated on Oath Keepers…
Is that Kevin Jenninig's sweetie Harry Hay in the marchers photo?
http://www.towleroad.com/2009/02/report-al-qaeda….
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Iraq-...
Apparently, it's a tactic used for recruiting both men and women. It depends on how credible you find the reports of course.
Really? I did not know that.
How familiar are you with Mo Dees? He is a thoroughly dangerous man.
While it is refreshing that you are commenting on attacks on gay people I can't help but suggest conservatives are as hypocritical as the Left. The Left condemns antigay bigotry when Christians do it and often fall silent when Muslims are involved. The Right condemns antigay bigotry (sometimes) when Muslims do it and then try to enshrine it into law when Christians are involved.
Some would be right, only in the old days we would have called you a "dirty old man." That being said, all of have sinned and come short of the glory of God. I do not claim to better than people who engage in sexually deviant behavior, I'm just glad that homosexuality isn't destroying me the way it has destroyed the lives of close friends of mine.
I'm not sure what you mean by saying, "They did not realize that note of that was really important." I would respectfully disagree that "none of that was really important."
So Paul, a gay author (see his bio) refers to SF as a gay mecca and you think its hypocritical? Dude your thought process needs some work.
If gays get bashed in San Francisco, do they make a sound?
Familiar enough to know Dees and his Organization usually goes after who ever he considers to be 'hateful, extremest or racist'.
Amen. I think you hit th nail on the head about peer pressure. It has always seemed to me that the only nonconformists in society are those who refuse to belong to any group whatsoever. Groups are by definition "conformist."
For example, the whole Goth thing. Goths are supposed to be nonconformists, yet they all dress alike, have the same hairstyles, makeup, beliefs, and so on. I guess they would say that their GROUP is nonconformist. So now we have nonconformist groups made up of —-> conformists. Ridiculous, and for many, very sad.
"How does he know I'm not outraged by the photo? Talk about liberals making it up as they go! " Why yes, since that was what you focused on was a word, not a crime.
And I don't care what "the law" is in Iraq. It has nothing to do with tolerance and NOT tolerating the death penalty for sodomy is the way I roll.
Frankly, I find nothing remotely conservative about you, Paul.
why did they only have a bb gun obama stimulus should have provided at least an ak 47
They have no qualms about raping women, especially in front of the woman's man.
They seek a "Rainbow Coalition" of Progressives to counter the number of non-Progressive freedom loving normal Americans. Because America is dominated by non-Progressives, the Progressives cannot allow any dissension in the ranks whatsoever.
Now THAT's gay bashing.
Here is a link for you:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.a...
If you are not familiar with it, you might like it. it is my favorite resource site.
Mo Dees in my opinion is nothing but a kinky haired Hebe, a shakedown artist of the first order, who taught Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson how to play the game. The Southern Poverty Law Center ranks at the very bottom of all 501(c) 3 charities ranked. Dees shakes down folks, and uses the money as his own personal piggy bank.
He is a POS.
Here is a link for you:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.a...
If you are not familiar with it, you might like it. it is my favorite resource site.
Mo Dees in my opinion is nothing but a kinky haired Hebe, a shakedown artist of the first order, who taught Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson how to play the game. The Southern Poverty Law Center ranks at the very bottom of all 501(c) 3 charities ranked. Dees shakes down folks, and uses the money as his own personal piggy bank.
He is a POS.
Argh. Yup. "none"
The Filipinoes I work with are from that part of the Phillipines where homo behavior is just a personal idiosyncracy. It has no apparent effect on anything else (including their religious lives), on or off the job. I've also worked with many homo's (of both genders) on other jobs without noting any problems.
People who are problems on the job due to sexual inclinations can be of any persuasion, and either gender. They just don't control themselves.
Now, drugs, they are a problem and I've seen a lot of people destroy themselves that way.
A complete overstatement and oversimplification, to be sure, but not gay bashing, IMHO, because there is an element of truth. I find it difficult to see the open hatred that many gay activists display toward Christians as anything but a sign that those folks hate God. You can argue that gay hatred of Christians is just a reaction of Christian "hatred" of gays. But Christians don't hate gays.
When it comes down to it, really, gay activists are Progressives, and Progressives hate God. That's the real source of the hatred.
(heheheh) "Non-conformists" who look like clones. Always good for a chuckle.
Hateful statements are neither humorous nor conducive to civil discourse, plus it makes you sound like a Liberal-Progressive troll.
GET BACK ON THAT PLANTATION ! ! !
I hate "Hate Crimes." Is that a crime, too?
Actually, I laugh at the pro-Islamic gays.
I was a participant in a focus group on gay rights in West Hollywood, California. I have many friends who are gay. I went into the focus group knowing I would be my completely honest and opinionated self.
When the man (who I believe was gay) conducting the focus group asked me if I'd attended any protests at all and if so which was the last protest I attended, I told him yes. I attended a protest for Iranian human rights in Westwood, California. The man then asked me if there were two protests, one Pro gay marriage and one for Iranian human rights, held at the same time which protest would I attend if I could only go to one.
I looked him in the eyes for what seemed like a long time and tried to keep my passion at bay. "I would attend the Iranian protest. In Iran women are stoned and men who are gay are HANGED."
Why are the gay people around the world not in the streets protesting this loudly? Horrific.
And when the Muslim majority hits Great Britain or the rest of Europe (and it will within the next 30 years or so), just what exactly do they think is going to happen? Sharia law will become national law. Muslims will vote those laws into place. Gays are going to be executed in the streets, and nobody is going to bat an eye. I wonder if, when that happens, they'll look back on now and still think they're oppressed just because we don't want to change the definition of marriage.
would you have preferred Bruce use "America's queer mecca"? Dude…
I read this article, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/28/afghan... several weeks ago (I think). It's been modified; originally, it had a section in it about how Pashtun men love to have sex with boys. One notable Pashtun man said "Women are for breeding, boys are for fun." That's an approximate quote.
See also GayPatriot's blog on this article at http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/01/30/gay-pashtuns...
Don't know enough to further comment on your post, other than to say that Liberal gay activists are constantly telling us that men who molest boys are not "gay." They also work hard to convince male child molesters that they are not "gay," and to make that clear in court — I've seen it happen. Liberal gay activists are very, very touchy on this subject.
Oh yea David Horowitz, the man has real left wing cred, I'm a regular here. The is nothing like a reformed commie…
For the life of me, I will never understand why there are so many Jewish progressives…
One can only surmise that the reason gay rights activists aren't vocally upset about Muslim persecution is because they are afraid of their real tormentors (like Muslims)… but unafraid of their mythical tormentors (Christians).
So Achmed the Dead Terrorist was right! It doesn't say that the 72 virgins will be women!
you are right on here–Christians do not teach intolerance and killing of gays–they teach that it is not acceptable behavior just like adultry or other sins. Muslims teach death to anyone who are not believers of Mohammed. Wake up Christians, Gays, Women and realize this enemy is growing within our borders every day. If we do not start confronting it soon it will be too late and there will real fighting in the streets. Never give up your guns you may be required to protect your famly from the coming unrest. Our government is usless anymore. They no longer protect American citizens from foreign invaders so will soon have to do it ourselves. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best and get your head out of the sand.
Ridiculosa! My Israeli friends tell me about many Gay Muslims in the clubs in Israel…so, is it correct to pin Islam on the wall and say they are all gay haters/bashers? I keep meeting people of faith, Mormons, Baptists, etc., who don't hate Gay folks, think their privacy should be respected, and don't want to deny them equal civil rights, but that doesn't make the news. T'was a BB Gun these Islamic -named guys used, not a bomb! OK, some Muslims are targeting Gays in the USA like the Christian white kids often do, is that news? Author seems to be desperately saying "See, they are as bad as the Christians!' Yes, duh. Racism, Sexism, always wrong, but you protest too much. Focus on love and kindness and get out of other people's bedrooms! The countries that kill Gay folks also keep their women as slaves…so liketo the FLDS, Fundamentalist polygamist Mormans. Must look in the mirror before you accuse those guys over there of being worse….just as bad. end of lecture.
Men having anal sex with one another is "just a personal idiosyncrasy"? Bro, we'll just have to disagree on that one. Is men having sex with boys "just a personal idiosyncrasy"? What about raping women? There are places in this world where the former is not taboo and is commonplace, and where the latter is an acceptable way to wage war.
To me, they are all sexually deviant behavior, but that's just because I base my morality on the teachings of God as revealed in the Bible.
Aren't you trying to draw a moral equivalence between drugs and homosexuality? Or is it a straw man argument? Not sure, I just know that it is not a valid comparison.
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Chill. "Homo" is short for, uh, "homosexual," is it not? Is there a ban on using truncated words? If so, I didn't get the memo — uh, I mean, memorandum.
Well, it's to their detriment (and potential continued death) that they keep their heads in the sand. But ironically their hatred for Christians will be their death knell, literally, as everyone refuses to see the dangers of Islamofascists.
Of course there are no protests against Muslim gay-bashing. In the first place, Muslims are regarded as the ultimate victims, thus those who are slaves of the PC creed will never dare utter so much as a peep. Second, there is no percentage in being critical of Muslims because it invites retaliation, up to and including murder. See : Salman Rushdie, Theo Van Gogh, Kurt Westergaard, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and others. These are the charming, jolly, goodhearted people who carry protest signs that read, Behead Those Who Insult Islam ! And they mean it, dude –
As a white, Catholic, evangelical, Mormon, conservative I am outraged.
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Yes it is. You have a point, it's just a stupid point. Homo is short for homosexual like Hebe is short for Hebrew or lesbo is short for lesbian. Is that what you mean VaGina?
"I think there is a lot more peer pressure to conform within the gay community than there is within a traditional values household." Wrong. {wrong, wrong, wrong}. I think you haven't been hanging out with modern Gay folks. There is an incredibly huge, dynamic and creative diversity among Gays, just like straights. Peer pressure and the desire to 'fit-in' will probably always be a part of most people's lives. And, YES, there are lots of stereotypes replenishing themselves; but, to say there is a "gay box"…"here is how you should act" is incorrect; and, no more correct than how 'straights' are put in a cultural, how-you-should-act box. It was very, very true in the past. The Gay folks who were 'out" back then were almost always identified as effeminate. Fortunately… times have changed!! Plenty of Gay folks of all kinds! God bless 'em! Not in your "box," so please liberate yourself of these old ideas and go do some research.
"The poor youth of America who experience same-sex attraction",,,,are you kidding? Love is the heart and the essence of all things. Anybody is lucky to find some happiness, and your hate, disguised as confused kids, only hurts. So sad to see the on-going misunderstanding of Gay people by (mostly) straight guys who are very personally uncomfortable with the idea. Nobody is forcing nor even asking you to be Gay, yet you have to protest that someone else's love is wrong and abnormal. How dare you! Leave others alone. I don't check out what you are doing in your bedroom or personal, private life. Is your anti-Gay baloney necessary, do you need it to prove that you are "a man"?, to yourself, or who? God forbid you should accept others who are different than yourself. …… You can try to couch your hate in words, but it is still hate, same as racism, sexism, defining one group as inferior or even not "normal." UGH! This begs the question that someone so set against Gay people is hardcore denying homoerotic feelings in themselves. It is just the way it works, I don't know your story, but inevitably the guys who shout out loudest against Gay s have a big secret they can't face.
good luck and god bless
That's because you know as much about conservatism as you do about journalism.
a. No crime.
b. He made up my lack of outrage out of his head, not my words.
c. The problem is you don't care what the law is anywhere. You think you're perfect and that everyone should think what you do. That sounds like a prima-donna lefty to me. You should get a job writing for Nancy Pelosi.
I know he's gay. That doesn't give him permission to refer to gays as "homos." He did use the word homo, did he not? Look how you change the word. Do you work for the NYT?
Dude, your punctuation needs some work. Your thinking is hopeless.
How can you call disagreeing with behavior bigoted?
So I take it this was to bash Islam? Why not bash the newspapers that hid who did the crime? Oh Muslims are bad because they have the balls to do what Christians want done! And the gays in homo-land aren't fighting over in Iran because…..wait for it….they aren't in Iran. They're in America. So their enemies are the religious people of America who find them disgusting, repulsive, and vile. Let me ask you, would you stick your penis in feces? Does that sound fun?
So I take it this is all about bashing Islam because gay people from homoland hide details in their news papers? I'll tell you why gay's aren't fighting what is happening in Iran. It's because…..wait for it…..THEY AREN'T IN IRAN. They're in the US fighting moral religious people that find them repulsive, disgusting, and vile. Sticking your thing in poop is disgusting.
That's what you took from the story Paul? Dude. Seriously?????
No you're right. Let's continue to use words that hurt, belittle, denigrate and divide on conservative websites. Let's remain the stereotypical ignoramuses the left portray us as. Let's alienate more and more people until the left has them all because they are unwanted here. Let's call it America's faggot mecca and be done.
My America is big enough for all. Even the bigots.
Gay Muslims are dancing in Israeli discos.
I am a Gay person speaking out against Islamic hatred of Gays. OK, you got me {and millions of others}. I have not met a Gay person who approves of Muslims killing Gay people, but why do you think this translates to it being OK to deny Gay couples equal civil marriage rights? Or,do you.? Here is the comparison. I am 'ass'uming, maybe you accept Gay Marriage. I am a man who was married to a man for 13 years and it was beautiful, true and right. Denying Gay people equality in America is wrong…killing them in Arab countries is worse, you are right. Do two wrongs make a right? Here I am. So please, don't say Gay folks are ONLY decrying Christian intolerance. Hatred is wrong and not to be accepted because "it is their culture." It was the Nazi 'culture' to kill Jews. It is usually the Islamic culture to enslave women, throw Gay folks from the tops of buildings….and, the "Christian' culture to deny Gay folks equal civil rights.
good luck, god bless
Yes, I'm gay/bi and I'm intolerant. I absolutely despise Islam and what it does to gays, women, and other religions. I have somewhat less of a distrust of Christianity. For the most part, I think my own faith has a lot to learn from the Jews. MOST neo-pagans irritate me because they just make it up as they go along. Heathens, however are cool, but then again- I'm one. I also despise leftists, progressives, socialists, and communists, as well as boiled eggs, most fish, and liver, and Tennessee fans.
It's easy to know what you think. Hate so uncomplicated. See ya, sweetheart.
"Anal sex", not my butt, not my problem. (Keeping that in mind, if it was "natural", there would be no market for KY.)
Pedophilia and rape are bad, but the US over legislates both. (Rape is supposed to be lower in some countries, but that is due to different ideas as to what "rape" is.)
The comparison was "self destructive behavior".
Yes, I'm gay/bi, and you could call me intolerant. I dislike Islam with a passion for what it does to gays, women, and other religions. My dislike of Christianity is only slightly less so, because of their own past actions. I kinda like the Hebrew faith, my own faith has much to learn from it. Neo-Pagans irritate me because they just sort of make it up as they go along. Most reconstructed religions are pretty cool, as are my fellow Asatraur/Heathens. I also can't stand liberals, progressives, and leftists, as well as boiled eggs, fried liver, and cigarette smoke. I guess I'm just bigoted and intolerant.
That's right. Virgin Boys. Not virgin women.
The gays are in the clubs in Israel, not in Gaza.
Why?
Where do gay Moslems have to go, in order to keep from being killed?
This post and all of yours below it are ridiculous. Your skin is thinner than most gays and your political correctness is what's driving a lot of the animosity. Gays refer to themselves and others lightly as "Homos" all the time, and I've had plenty of gay friends that use it regularly.
It's people like you who insist on making a big deal out of it that make these words taboo, not the gays themselves minus the 5% of crazies that every group has. In all actuality since the word "gay" has been used as an insult by most elementary schoolers not even knowing what it means, it should be the more offensive to gays than the word "homo".
What got you all riled up? It's nowhere near as offensive as you seem to think it is.
I knew it!
Who has "speculated" this? Show some facts.
True. Men who molest young boys almost always ALSO molest young girls. It is sick, but it is not gay. Rape is an act of violence, not sex, and it is 90%straight men who rape girls and boys. Go figure. What are you saying "Liberal Gay Activists?" Absolutely incorrect. Get the facts.
"Palin bashing?" oh come on, she makes a fool of herself without any bashing…still, she DOES cling to any joke about her as crude and rude and…gosh, I LIKE political humor, she sure can't take it…lighten up Sarah!
God loves me and he knows I'm Gay!
Just stay in your compound and we'll be safe..
You missed the links just two replies above yours? Note I did say "speculated" and I also mentioned that it depends on how credible you find the reports … but, seek your answer and you shall find. The first link goes to a linked article, and it wasn't the article I read when I first ran across this type of speculation.
So to believe that a behavior is a sin is bigotry?
So, I have only to find something I do that you do not agree with and you are likewise a bigot?
this is why we are americans and they are sand rats.,
and why we are in their stink hole country killing them,,
end of story.
Just so. Christians believe that homosexual behavior is a sin, but lots of things are sins. And, everyone sins. If we hated everyone who sinned, we'd hate ourselves and everyone else in the world. Every person on earth must walk their own path and come before God in their own way at the end of their time. He is the one who judges; we should not.
Or "let him who is blameless cast the first stone."
Yep, does Israel hang gay muslims for being gay?
What has me riled up is that I'm a gay guy and a conservative. That's a lot harder than you can imagine. I have to deal with the kooks in both camps. All I'm trying to do is point out that this kind of speech alienates people who might otherwise like what conservatives stand for. I'm trying to point out that being the subject of bigotry by liberals and the MSM, conservatives ought to reach for something better. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard. If we're going to attack other people's credibility we need to strive for greater credibility ourselves. One way to achieve that is by eliminating words designed to hurt from our vocabulary in this kind of dialogue.
Many blacks call each other nigger. Would we be having this chat if that word had been used in an article in this manner?
We whine about a double standard and then try to hide behind one. Hypocrisy is what gets me so riled up. Ask your gay friends how they feel about that word in this article. But be careful, you might learn something, like other people's feelings really do matter and our actions have consequences.
I don't think you can simultaneously condemn the "gay establishment" for not speaking out on these crimes at the same time you're criticizing the media for not reporting it? Which is it? Is the media not reporting the identities to be politically correct? If that assertion is correct at the beginning of your article, how can you really hold the "gay establishment" responsible for not speaking out when the information is being censored by the press in the first place.
While I understand you are upset with gay people targetting Christians, that's who we're actually amongst right now, our own neighbors. While the media blackout can be justifiably taken to task, targetting gays for not speaking up is disingenuous at best, and sloppy at worst. Many people, gays and straights, have been working to making changes in the Middle Eastern world. You completely gloss over this fact. The "gay establishment" goes largely by what it can do, and what will be the best use of the funds it receives from donors and their wishes. If big ticket gays in California want their donations to go to fight Prop 8, which affects them directly, that doesn't make HRC or the "gay establishment" blind to the plights of gays worldwide.
Gay groups have condemned things from the graphic hangings you picture to systematic torture and treatment of gays in Iraq to current calls against the Uguandan bills criminalizing homosexuality. Just because the media omits the race of a couple of thugs in San Francisco doesn't make the jump to the "gay establishment" drinking the Kool-aid and being blind to the hardships of gays world-wide.
5 minutes of research destroys your whole argument, Bruce.
You are right. Are there clubs in Gaza? There might be, lets do some research. My point is that there ARE Gay Muslims: we can not hate a people: Muslims, Christians, Librarians, etc., …but must stop evil (hatred) itself. But on this blog it seems that the same people who are saying Islam is bad because they kill Gay people are ALSO ugly, crude (read the comments) haters who hate Gay folks and want to deny them basic, equal rights. How many, many statements here that Gay folks molest boys when WE ALL KNOW that it is almost always straight men molesting young girls…IT IS A FACT. So, can you say the Muslims are so wrong for hating Gay people when you hate them yourself? dude
This idea that Gays all embrace the bad guys is simplistic and wrong.
HRC Condemnation of Use of Sharia law for Gays:
http://www.hrc.org/issues/5007.htm
Gill Foundation website doesn't list any international work. I think it's difficult to criticize an organization for doing something it never and hasn't ever said it was going to do. I don't go to McDonalds and bitch at the speaker for their lack of Whoppers… They have a stated purpose, and their failure to fulfill work outside of their purpose is not an indication of any gay establishment conspiracies or drinking lefty Kool-aid
Gay and Lesbian Task Force also doesn't operate for this purpose. Their mission statement is pretty USA specific.
There are organizations like Al-Fatiha that are gay and lesbian Muslim based and do work on these sort of international issues.
Again, calling to task the "gay establishment" for not taking Iran to task is unfair. It's outside of the scope of the work of they and their donors. Most would like to see places they donate to work in their local communities and states. And if not they have other organizations that do this kind of work specifically to donate to if that's the cause they want to fight for.
Stop railing against gay charities for not doing work no one ever asked them to do. Continue fighting the media for omitting facts which don't fall in line with their worldview.
Nope, Israel is more liberated– Gays serve in the military– than the USA. Straight boys in Idaho beat gays to death, and there are plenty of comments here, READ 'EM, that make it clear "moral Christians" would like to do the same. Because Muslims are able to get away with being more anti-Gay, does that make your hatred better?
Peep! Here is a Gay person who denounces Muslim anti-Gay hatred. Will you denounce Right-wing Christian anti-Gay hatred?
BBB-
first lest start with facts-
1. youre an idiot.
2. Christians that gay bash are acting outside of the teachings of the faith
muslims that kill gays are actining within the teachings of the faith.
3. The point of the article was not "Muslims are as bad as Christians"
instead the articles points out the diservice done to the gay commuity when there leaders and the media rush to call Mormons 'hate criminals" for preaching against gay marrige and ignore people who want to kill them.
4. If you are going to accuse Phillip of being anti-gay, please provide evidence.
5. youre still an idiot.
Equal rights are not "special rights."
Oh, how open of you to have "homosexual friends and acquaintances!!" Gosh, next thing you'll have black and Mexican friends….obviously not true. Gay folks don't refer to themselves as "homosexual" any more than you go around saying, "Hi, I'm heterosexual Ultra."
"conditioned …conformity and politically correct values": = right wing Xtian conservatives.
Yes, Gay people are generally more intelligent and thus, more liberal.
Conformity is what the conservative Christians are all about, (NOT the vast diversity of Gay people.Have you been watching Fox News?) Denying individuals their liberty because it goes against the Christian religious morals is just like Muslim slavery. If only everybody believed in my God, the real true one, then everything would be alright.
So "homo" is a slur? I always thought it was actually a nicer way of saying "homosexual" (see, "homo" is part of the word "homosexual", so it means the same thing, but is shorter, get it?) Is "queer" a better term, you know "we're here, we're queer, get used to it!".
Let's face it, any term that means "homosexual", other than "gay" (the stupidest euphamism ever invented) is offensive to you, right?
sorry Gina, I made a similar post before I saw yours. The queers are so sensitive, aren't they!
if you get hurt by the word 'homo', you need to grow thicker skin. Words only have power if you let them. Your continued whining about a perfectly acceptable word makes you look like a complete whiner. Get lost.
This has been happening all the time where Muslims can say what they want and due to the 'racial' or 'anti muslim discrimination' no one takes them to task. Remember last year at the Muslim march on DC, (http://www.americanparchment.com) Muslims were talking about killing gay, jews, and christians. Boy that sounds familiar. Though at the same this was not a majority, it was a small minority, but if the Tea Party said anything like this, they would have been ripped up and down by MSNBC and other liberal journalists.
Try being straight, white and conservative, and deal with being called a bigot, racist, homophobe, sexist war-mongering religious nut, redneck…etc. Since I don't have a 'special interest' to fall back on for support, i don't have an out.
Where is "here"?
If you mean this story, then please point these comments out because I dont see them.
Again if youre going to accues someone of being homophobic,
please give evidence.
you'll notice that aharris and I have hyperlinks for names: this means you can click on them and look into our comment histories for such evidence. However I know wont find any in mine, it doesnt exist.
I notice you have no such link,
Could this be because youre nothing but a weak little troll?
I can't imagine why I wasted my time reading his stupid objection – he completely solidified what the author just laid out!
You revealed what may be the root of the homosexual problem; confusing love with sex! Unfortunately, sex leads people to believe they are experiencing love, but it's just lust. The first sexual experience is probably the most critical, so if some teen boy gets seduced/molested by an older gay man/teen, then that can "trigger" the teen to believe that's what he's destined for.
I'm glad that Horowitz is spilling the beans on his past after so many years as an avowed communist at least…
He is trying to make amends but as he said before; "The damage may be too far beyond repair now…"
After reading many of the comments posted by professed homo…..sexuals. The word police are in full force today. I think that many of them missed the entire point of the article again and again and again. One was upset by the word homo, fine how about "Off Spring Challenged." Let's put that arrogant I'll decide what everyone else can say issue to rest. If you don't like the word tough. Contrary to popular belief many in the majority hear words about them that they don't like it's not just some minority issue. As someone from the right I hate the words right winger or teabagging my dislike of these word isn't going to keep people from using them and would seem to be like pissing in the wind to complain about it.
Then I do believe Paul made the argument that since it's the law of the land he's ok with the killing of Off Spring Challenged people in Iran. WOW!!! Then he has the nerve to use some strange moral equivalency between killing Off Spring Challenged individuals in Iran and not being able to get married in the US. Astoundingly stupid. I'm pretty sure that the Off Spring Challenged folks in Iran would disagree with that comparison.
Read the comments.
Name calling? Brilliant.
There is no gay people in any Islamic country. Do you know Why? The answer is easy they kill them. They people on those country they flee to another country. But in America they can protest and accused the Christians. Why did they do not accused the Islam?
I'm thinking you are the one marginalizing people – where do you presume that it is only 'Christians' who deny gay folks equal civil rights? If they are the only ones you 'hear' then sorry to tell you, you've only heard a small part of the voice.
I think it's pretty arrogant to try and tell people what words they can and can not use. In fact I think that flies in the face of the very first Amendment to the Constitution. Freedom of speech and all that. Are you the surrogate word police. How about this instead of gay, homo, queer how about Off Spring Challenged.
This article goes to the pattern of willful blindness by the MSM and Off Spring Challenged bloggers to the dangers that Islam presents. You not seeing that point just goes to better cement that idea for the rest of us.
I wish you the best and hope the evilness of Islam is never bestowed upon you or anyone else for that matter.
Cheers
I find the argument of gays so ass backwards – I know plenty of agnostics and atheists who vehemently oppose gay marriage – the Christians were/are just an easy target for them, as Christians are an easy target for any progressive group – And I'll add that I agree with you Ultra, not a single Christian I know 'hates' gays.
ha ha ha – now that is funny! piggy pelosi and braindead boxer will keep you all safe! they can stop earthquakes, mud slides, forest fires, and hey maybe they'll even be able to save you all from being sold to China! Good luck ~
Hmmm, should you use "gays" and "ass backwards" in the same sentence? I'm sure somewhere a troll is offended.
I don't knwo of anyone, not even amongst Christian friends, who think that gays should be barred from the legal rights and privileges married couples enjoy. What we object to is calling it marriage. To us, "marriage" implies a union sanctified by God and not the legal bennies from the government. In fact, I would give up my legal bennies in a heartbeat if I could keep my definition of marriage. If it meant having to apply for a civil union in addition to my marriage in order for the legal bennies, so be it. I'd do it.
Speaking damage already done Missy, here is a book that changed my life…
When I picked up this book I didn't put it down until it was finished…
It was written in 1971, now it reads like Nostradamus…
http://www.captaincanadacrusades.ca/articles/none...
God certainly does love you. That doesn't mean he condones your lifestyle; he is a God who loves, but he is also a God who judges. If your path through life is be homosexual, then I suppose that is one conversation you will be having with him on the day the two of you meet much like he and I will have an uncomfortable talk about my numerous sins and how repentant of them I truly am.
Great article, Bruce. Sadly, I think the incident in San Francisco is a herald of things to come.
Gay folks don't refer to themselves as "homosexual" any more than you go around saying, "Hi, I'm heterosexual Ultra."
You're right but you Off Spring Challenged sure do have a lot of parades. Not to mention some of the special and unequal hate crime laws protecting you. Don't complain about inequality when you ask to be treated special in the eyes of the law.
Uh-huh. I have noticed that influx of news stories about Christians in Idaho killing gays … really.
I am not saying that such a thing has never happened, but I will point out as someone above me already did:
For a Christian to kill or even gay bash falls outside the teachings of the faith.
For a muslim to kill a Christian falls within the teaching of the faith.
Now, most every Christian I know thinks that homosexuality is wrong the same way we think any other sin is wrong, but just because we hate the sin itself, doesn't mean we hate the sinner. All people, including good Christians sin, and therefore, it is not our place to judge that right belongs solely to God.
Maybe once these Muslim creeps decapitate a gay person it will get the homosexuals attention.
And here is a great book written much earlier by someone who warned us about what could lead us to our current predicament.
Democracy In America by Alexis de Tocqueville. In 1831
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/815
SociaIist
Nice. Who did I call a name? Gina is short for vagina. How could using it possibly be offensive?
The only one calling people names here is you. Hateful, hateful you. Why don't you join the klan and stop giving conservatives a bad name.
"Off with their heads! Infidels! Goats humping hippies. Aleilulia……………." is what I got. Can you actually post what you did in English first?
Actually Gina would be short for Regina.
Ever been to a Muslim country? Ever been in a Muslim home? Have you ever even met a Muslim? There are one billion Muslims on this earth and a tiny percentage of them are kooks. Probably the same percentage as with Christians (you do realize they have fanatics, too?), or Republicans, or Democrats or any other group. Islam is not evil. The people who twist it to serve evil purposes are evil. Same with Christians, Republicans, Democrats or any other group. Apparently the same as people on this website. Ciao morons.
Geert is a little strange, but clearly an heroic defender of human liberty. A true ally of the West.
"The enemy of my enemy is my ultimate destroyer". That is what the "Effete Elite" need to learn about the Islamic devils. Religion of peace my a$$. I know plenty of gays and more than a few muslims, mostly all decent people. Who would I trust more?
Barbary Coast? Can we send some Marines to S.F.?
What he said… +1. Very clever word play.
So you know how hate speech feels. Doesn't that give you compassion for others who have suffered it their whole lives?
Question: Why a BB gun? It's big enough to get you arrested but not big enough to do any real good.
It was by design, of course! Hope I offend all trolls
So homosexuals are as intellectually dishonest as the rest of the left. What's the news here?
Hate crime is not equal, some are more equal than others. Ironic that the media is always in a rush to find hate crime when it does not exist and then in other instances avoids reporting it when the suspect does not fit the media narrative of the angry white male.
You must be talking about Portland, Oregon. It now has the highest per capita gay population.
oh yea, before bush pushed them out, both the taliban and saddam where roasting, toasting and hanging, homosexual's left and right. there is some footage of it from a stadium in afghanistan. and saddam made some movies too. They stone them to death in saudi, yea Islam does not take kindly to homosexuals. Showing that there are good and bad things about any religion. But it is fun to watch what happens in PC world when two liberal tested & approved, protected groups clash in combat. Poor Homosexual dude! any other attacker would have led to some national headlines, and maybe some crying with Oprah. Oh the uproar in the msm, if this had been done by a white former Boy Scout? And if he were christian. Oh my it would have hit the roof. They would make movies about it. But being the homosexual ball in some sick muslim guy's video taped, game of tracking and attacking homo's is just no big deal, not even to even the most strident media supporters of the homosexual agenda, many being homosexual themselves, go figure.
I have a fair way of dealing with this whole situation, we should hang the fella's that did this to the poor guy. And the dude that got attacked get's deported to Iran. deal?
Words: a hate crime
Actual hate crime: nothing to see here.
You nailed it.
Or better yet, let's not give a rat's ass what the left thinks about us. No matter how hard you try, you will never please or impress them. They're all a bunch of overly-sensitive, hissy-fit throwing weenies who pretend to be offended about little things like a single word in an article of hundreds.
Yep, your beliefs make you a bigot, a hater, and an enemy of the state who should be forced to bow the knee to gaydumb/islam or be eliminated.
How about Bill Mahar and intelligence?
Personally, I'm offended by the word "damn", and you used it TWICE!
This is the evil of political correctness.
Yeah, won't work as long as Muslims want to saw off my head and dance around on the internet with it.
Scary but true.
Exactly.
It's similar to how homosexual activists are shocked that Black Democrats don't support gay "marriage."
Besides religion, Black people including myself see no proof of homosexuality being a genetic trait and thus don't generally feel any real kinship.
Yeah, homosexual activists will be BEGGING for the good ole' days when all they worried about were Christians who responded with prayer and words instead of assault weapons.
Some news for the PC Brigade: Extremists are bad news, right or left. But when you talk of extremists, you're talking about such as Nazis, Communists, the KKK and the radical Islamists who would love to force Sharia 'law' down EVERYONE'S throats. These characters make our conservative Christians, and even the very conservative ones such as Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell, look like a bunch of "Summer-of-Love" 1967-vintage San Francisco hippies by comparison. Oh, and another bit of historical fact: extremists, once in power, round up dissenters, intellectuals and independent thinkers in general, be they liberal OR conservative. (Check out the actions of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and the Ayatollah Khomeini after they took over their respective domains. It's always been consistent that way.) And, believe it or not, you are getting this little morsel of history from a liberal Democrat. Politics aside, the Constitution and it's defense of freedom have to come first, or we're all toast. Those clowns who gave us 9/11 weren't kidding, unfortunately. Political correctness, if kept up in the current cowardly fashion, could be the death of all of us!
Political Correctness.
On a supernatural level, they are blind to those (Muslims) who clearly want to KILL them.
Great article Bruce. You are doing a great job here. Keep up the good work.
Yes, they will still vote for the lies of Obama.
Not seeing any Christians saying "Death to Gays!"
Sadly, you prove the article's point that homosexuals in the West attack false threats (imaginary Christian terrorists) instead of real threats (all too real Muslim terrorists).
Like I said in a previous post. I'm a gay/bi person who has been protesting this for quite a while. I've tried to call the gay community on the carpet about it several times and all I get is a bunch of anti-Christian crap. However, I will admit that I really do despise everything that Islam stands for. My feelings for Christianity are only slightly better. I genuinely like most of Judaism because they don't try to ram it down other people's throats and they can genuinely teach us Asatruars a thing or two about being tribe. To be honest, I also despise leftists, progressives, Marxists, communists, socialists, boiled eggs, liver, and cigarette smoke. So I would wonder where that would put me in this mix, if I really gave much of a whit.
I support the idea that each person should be left the heck alone and no law should exist that did not preserve life, liberty, or property. I don't care if you preach that homosexuality is a sin, just don't try to use the power of government to enforce that idea.
Wayne?
I hate those guys, they have no sense in motifs
Unfortunately, there are more and more stories of Americans joining the Jihad. News just broke of the arrest of "Jihad Jane," a blond White girl who became Muslim and then began an online recruitment for Islamic terrorism worldwide.
So, while we're winning the war against Islam overseas, we're quickly losing it on the homefront.
Exhibit A: Safe School Czar Kevin Jennings:
http://stopjennings.org/
He's a clever guy, that Bruce!
True, the Left, Gays, and Feminists have not properly thought this through. They haven't even considered that the enemy of their enemy might be their enemy too. Just ask all those Leftists, trade unionists, and students whether they'd help the Ayatollah again, assuming they weren't executed after the Islamic regime took power.
MSM won't touch this. It doesn't fit their concept of who's the true villain here. If the villain isn't white, christian, and conservative the act was justified. They just can't bring themselves to say anything negative about a minority or the sin of all sins, say something negative about a Muslim.
I just finished the book "Lone Survivor" about the SEAL team inside Afghanistan and he mentions that the tribesmen in the region, Pashtun, have been having sex with their young boys for centuries. They treat their women less than cattle and deny that they are homosexuals. I agree with you Jawja that any relationship between gays and Arabs is fatal.
Liberals, gays being among them, would find never-ending persecution from laws whose origins are in Islam. Liberals work very diligently to bring down the fall of American values as we know them, but give no thought to the consequences of their own philosophy and what it will mean to be intolerated because of their sexual practices.
GaltFan…
"From the halls of Montezuma, to the streets of Haight-Ashbury"
hey, aharris, God may not condone of gays, but I believe that the 10 commandments are the most important cornerstone of the judeo-christian belief system, correct? There is nothing in the commandments about homosexual activity. BUT there is a WHOLE commandment about not coveting another's wife. YET BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE WORLD BANG OTHER PEOPLES WIVES/HUSBANDS!!!!!! I abhor the practice, and have NEVER cheated, even on a girlfriend. Maybe I have morals, and realize that when I point a finger at someone, I have 3 pointing back at myself.
Stop being so obtuse, and like Jesus said, "do not point out the sliver in my eye, while you have a log in your own.
this sounds like the 3 stooges of islamic jihadism. They suck so bad at life, they move to a state that has draconic gun control, then realize they can't arm themselves, so they buy a BB gun…damn..I'm ROFL'ing still, just thing about all the whoop whoop whoop, nyuck nyuck nyuck's that happened during their "wacky, wacky jihadi escapades of stupidity"…
Spaceracer!!!! Nailed it!
It boggles the mind that NOBODY points out the fact that, in islam, women are posessions, gays are to be killed, as are jews, christians, secuarists, hindus, atheists, apostates, etc. Basically, if you are not a male muslim, you deserve to die of be treated like a slave.
and, god forbid, you be a female muslim. If you are raped, and go to the police, you need 4 male witnesses to claim the rape actually happened, or you get stoned to death for being a harlot. mmmm….the religion of peace. killing victims, because their testimony in court is worth inly half that of a man. Sharia law should be banned, and all countries operating under sharia bombed back into the stone age. Oh, wait, they're already there.
asatrueteacher, disliking liberals, progs, leftists, boiled eggs, liver and smokes isn't intolerant. It's called having convictions, and valid opinions. Too bad the left wants to make having either of those a 'hateful ideology'
Unless it's in my girlfriend. Then it's A-OK!!!
Retard.
disagreeing with libs at all is grounds for being called bigoted or intolerant. God forbid somebody disagrees with the "Leftist Borg"
That was my point. We have become so afraid of the word "hate" that we are not allowed to use it any more. Partially I blame George Lucas for this- with his whole Star Wars mentality that "negative emotions" are bad. I'm sorry, but somethings are worthy of hate, and it should be expressed. Hatred of any culture that hangs gay teens for the "sin" of loving their own sex; that stones women to death for the "crime" of being raped. These are things very worth of the word "hate".
When I'madinnerjacket spoke at Columbia, and said that, the class laughed, either through ignorance, or knowing damn well he's lying through his teeth. Probably the former.
I can't presume to know what you think, but you know what I think. Right. Well, that was enlightening. Bye, troll.
At least nucsnipe is actually 'thinking'….instead of flying off the handle in an overly-emotional rebuke of Mr.Carroll's column based solely on a single word.
And don't even get me started with this whole "killing gays in Iran is okay because it's the law…but a homosexual writer exercising his 1st Amendment right to use the word 'homo' in a sentence deserves swift and strong condemnation" grotesque rationalization of yours.
Dude, your thinking needs some work.
Go find a new home for your gerbils dude, since you're so full of it, they're getting crowded of late.
Not when you go out and make a fool of yourself. I don't care whether you are gay or not. The article was about how a gay man was singled out and attacked for being gay. Yet you go after the author, for a one word issue. That is why I have a problem with you.
You have no idea what being persecuted your whole life feels like until you live in an islamic country, ruled by sharia law, as a gay man or woman. Then come back and tell me how one gay man making a homo comment has ANY FRICKING RELEVANCE to what is going on in this world.
But, really, just pick the low hanging fruit. Don't go after the real problem. You are too lazy.
Azzhole.
A christian group for teens came for an event at the ballpark a couple yrs ago, and when they came to city hall to do a bit of singing and praying for the city, there was a near riot at city hall.
It was such a display of hate and intolerance, even some of the locals wrote letters to the Comical denouncing the protest. It really was over the top.
All the gay groups march with the islamists at the monthly anti-Israel marches and if your ask them about their hypocrisy, their eyes just glass over and they start spouting propaganda.
The feminazis esp look to blow a gasket trying to explain their hypocrisy.
I'm moving outta here and soon.
U2Dave, well, considering that Gays refer to us straight people as "breeders" (and that is like the N-word for us), i agree that it's pretty arrogant for one group to tell another group how to talk, think, act, feel, etc.
you've never been to Provincetown, Ma, i take it.
"Get the facts", Frank Garry?
Okay.
There is a significant difference between "raping boys" and "having consensual sex with boys"…obviously you & everybody else condemns the act of raping boys, and deservedly so, but I also vociferously condemn the act of consensual sex with boys.
I can't help but notice how very rarely I hear somebody like you condemn the act of "consensual sexual relations with boys".
Any particular reason why?
Heck, in "The Vagina Monologues" nobody in the homosexual community seemed upset that one of the skits depicted an adult woman seducing a 12 year old girl….it was outrage from the larger mainstream community that had the play re-written so that the seduced girl was now 15 instead of 12.
As for any argument that 'homosexuality' and 'sex with underage boys' are in no way affiliated, I respond to such claims with one word:
Shotacon.
It's a form of gay erotica…the term originated in Japan.
Go ahead & look up some of the images of shotacon, or shota, on the internet…if you dare: they're pretty sick. Just don't linger too long; the Feds might be watching as well!
As for the "90% of all rapists are straight men" canard…
(actually, the claim used to be that only 2% of child rapists were homosexual, not 10%)…
…rape crimes involving men raping boys or women raping girls make up over 40% of all child rape cases.
So either your supposed 10% is responsible for a significantly disproportionate number of the crimes…or you should simply disassociate any & all sexual orientation ("straight" or "gay") from your statistic.
Just getting the facts…as you suggested.
hatred of christians does not preclude hatred of muslims. As far as my gay-ass is concerned, all you religious ass holes could go to hell.
you guys are such victims… you're pathetic.
I find it weird none of the regular commenters has replied to your cogent reply. Probably because it doesn't fit into their neat little narrative of "I'm a bigoted, sanctimonious, moralizing christian and I'm so oppressed by the left because it is no longer socially acceptable to discriminate against whoever is not exactly like me". Indeed, where are all the christians protesting the "kill the gays" law in Uganda?
stupid asshole, homosexual activists openly fought homophobic pieces of shit like you ever since the 60s. What have YOU ever fought?
you sound like you'd be right at home in an islamo-fascist country. You fools are so incoherent.
Oh Paul, I lived in SF for years and tell you what, all you gays (as you desire to be called) can have the place – it has turned into a cess pool, it is filthy and disgusting. Sorry to disagree with your well thought out retort, but calling America a faggot mecca merely suggests you don't get out much. If 'your' America is big enough for all, then what exactly is your major issue? That people say a word you don't like? How in the heck is that reflective of an all inclusive America? The more you write, the less sense you make -
Jeez you're kidding now right? Other people's feelings do matter? Wake up Pauly, the whole damn country has to monitor every damn word spoken for fear they might hurt someone's feelings! It is child's play, get the hell over it and if you are so conservative and so worried, then try putting your energy into something that actually matters, like stopping the demise of OUR COUNTRY.
You are completely wrong on this one buzzy – not a single woman's group took it upon themselves to defend a woman unlike when they flocked to hillary over bill being the dumb pig he was/is – and Palin takes ALL the jokes and bashing, and is not afraid of any of it. Much like the gays here, she voiced objection to the use of a word that has long since been retired – kinda like the whole homo vs gay deal -
Amen ~
This is not unique to gays. The gay left are leftists first and gays second. They have been brainwashed that all cultures are equal, except for Western Culture which they hate and want to destroy. Furthermore they are cowards. They attack the majority culture relentlessly because they will never pay a price. If they criticize Isalam they could end up like Dutch Filmmaker Theo Van Gogh — a note pinned to you chest with a butcher knife.
Ultra-C, you are exactly right about gays, at least for the most part, being regressives. The left has been using them to destroy the Americans' perception of what constitutes a family for no other reason than the left wants to have the final say in all social ordering. It's hard to create "designer" citizens out of people who see a nuclear family as the primary and most important social construct. Government chattel, not human beings with "inalienable rights."
Not all gays feel that way. Please don't generalize so broadly.
"One way to achieve that is by eliminating words designed to hurt from our vocabulary in this kind of dialogue."
If anyone was hurt by the phrase "homo mecca", then I don't especially want to have a dialogue with them anyway. Those types of people have a tendency to be way too emotional to engage in any kind of meaningful conversation with.
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In all fairness, I've yet to hear the Human Rights Campaign PUBLICLY condemn the rape of a boy by a man who isn't a Catholic priest.
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Yep, this sounds like a trial run to see how homosexuals response to one of their own being attacked by Muslims.
The weak response from the likes of HRC and GLAAD will embolden these terrorists, who sadly have PC as their best ally.
You've answered your own question.
Homosexual activists lack the will to openly fight those like Muslims who shoot back!
Great post! Well thought out and reasoned, unlike the lock step mentality of all large groups.
Are you kidding or what?!
Not every comparison is valid. But I guess you're trying to say that homosexuality affects only homosexuals, so it's nobody else's business. It's the "consenting adults" defense, used to justify prostitution as well. It goes along with the "you can't legislate morality" nonsense spewed by those who also demand that their own morality be imposed on the rest of society. See, e.g., gay "marriage."
If you can't legislate morality, then you can't legislate anything at all. Morality is all about drawing lines — this behavior is wrong, this isn't. Over time, behavior that is destructive to individuals and/or society as a whole has become defined as immoral. Homosexuality has not always been treated as immoral throughout the last few thousand years in western civilization, but certainly has been considered immoral throughout the Judeo-Christian history. Ours is a Judeo-Christian society.
Your statement regarding pedophilia and rape being "over legislated" in the US is, IMHO, absurd. Personally, I believe that the death penalty should apply in many cases of pedophilia and rape; in this regard, these problems are "under legislated."
I believe that's what I attempted to say.
We are ALL sinners here. What God wants to know when we all have to stand before Him is whether or not we both accept that we have sinned and are repentant.
Being a Christian is a little like being a recovering alcoholic in that the first step is to admit that you have a problem (i.e. are a sinner) and go to both beg forgiveness for the sins yu have committed and will commit and do your best to avoid sinning in the future although we all fail at that because no one is perfect.
God loves us the whole way, but it's a mistake to think that God won't apply the consequences to a life full of unrepetant sin. So I thank God every day for Christ and ask him to forgive me and ask him to help me better and stronger in the face of temptations to come.
Since you obviously have "the facts," why don't you give them to us?
I don't have statistics, but I have represented a number of men for sex crimes. Of the men who molested boys, I did not have a single one who ever molested a girl. Nor did I even hear of any; this was in a fairly large city, Seattle, and in other part of Washington state.
I know, personal experience and scientific research are not the same thing, but these are the "facts" that I "got" through my own experience. If you do have scientific research showing the facts you assert, please share them with us.
what it mean cowboy logic ?
"Peace on earth, goodwill toward men."
I'm with you my Dear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
…and YOU used the word the Knights Who Formerly Said Ni cannot bear to hear!
Moi too Jings . I'm with you !
So few lefty gays understand Arabic. Pity, really, or they'd know they were next on the list of "things to do", right after the implementation of Sharia Law.
What do you mean it is "outside the scope of the work they do or their donors???????????????????????" What kind of an idiot would make such a response when gay and lesbians are in as much danger in this country from Muslim degenerates as they are around the world. HRC, GLAAD, NGLTF, are all socialist organizations who care only about their next multi million dollar fundraiser. They could care less about gays and lesbians being attacked or killed in this country by Muslims. They certainly do NOT care about gays and lesbians being murdered around the world by Muslims. NOR, do they care about any other Americans being murdered by Muslims degenerates. I have never contributed to the so called 'gay rights' organizations in this country because of their hate filled views or money grubbing fundraisers. More and more gay and lesbian Americans are realizing that the Democratic party is not their friend. Republican values have always held individual rights in far higher esteem that Democrats ever have. Sure there are nut jobs on the far right who are filled with as much hate as the nut jobs on the far left are. Neither of these groups make up mainstream America. I am a gay Republican and PROUD of it! I actively work along side other Republicans to ensure that this present administration will be brought to it’s knees in the next election so that America can return to what makes America great!
"Rape is an act of violence, not sex,"
Nope. Rape can be for purposes of expressing power, but it can also be simple selfeshness or poor impulse control. "I want to do this, I am going to do this, and it simply does not matter what you want."
What do you mean it is "outside the scope of the work they do or their donors???????????????????????" Your comment makes no sense considering that gays and lesbians are in as much danger in this country from Muslims as they are around the world. HRC, GLAAD, NGLTF, are all socialist organizations who care only about their next multi million dollar fundraiser. They could care less about gays and lesbians being attacked or killed in this country by Muslims. They certainly do NOT care about gays and lesbians being murdered around the world by Muslims. NOR, do they care about any other Americans being murdered by Muslims. I have never contributed to the so called 'gay rights' organizations in this country because of their hate filled views or money grubbing fundraisers. More and more gay and lesbian Americans are realizing that the Democratic party is not their friend. Republican values have always held individual rights in far higher esteem that Democrats ever have. Sure there are nut jobs on the far right who are filled with as much hate as the nut jobs on the far left are. Neither of these groups make up mainstream America. I am a gay Republican and PROUD of it! I actively work along side other Republicans to ensure that this present administration will be brought to it’s knees in the next election so that America can return to what makes America great! Gary
Sure, there are gay moslems. But they cannot stay in an Islamic country unless they hide. Go ahead that try to find gay clubs in Palestine. Considering that being accused of being gay in Palestine means death? What odds that you would be able to find one?
Is anyone saying Moslems are evil because they kill gays? I have not noticed any such posts. What I have noticed is people saying that gays
WHO ARE LEFTISTS
and
WHO SUPPORT ISLAM
are fools.
Any secular humanist who criticizes the Judeo-Christian ethic but is silent about Islam is probably acting in either ignorance or cowardice. Such criticisms have little credibility.
To me, prostitution, by it's self, falls into "consenting adults". However, the slavery part, and the beatings and killings used to indoctrinate women (and boys) into the sex trade, is a very different matter.
Do not treat law and morality as being the same thing. If all immoral behavior is legislated against, you end up with a highly intrusive and repressive government. I'm not going to go along with "Submit to God/the Church/Allah" any more than "Submit to the State".
I regard rape and pedophilia as two issues. I still recall men being convicted of rape because the woman later said she did not really want to do it, no force involved. On the other hand, I have talked with people from Europe, where they have a very different attitude.
"Pedophilia", well, older children get into a gray area.
I see you say "…apply in many cases…"
The real "same sex" rate in the US is about 2.5%. That does not make for a lot of people around to comment.
The Kinsey studies were highly flawed.
Yes, I do think that the death penalty should "apply in many cases" of rape and pedophilia, and not in every single case. I also do not believe that the death penalty should apply in all cases of murder. Obviously, every act of rape and pedophilia is evil, but certainly we should not say they are all equally deserving of the ultimate punishment that we can inflict.
I have not treated law and morality as the same thing. Law is based on (and informed by) morality, but it does not track our moral code precisely, nor should it. It is Progressives (actually, all statists) who have a hard time separating the two.
You are indeed correct in saying that not all immoral behavior should be legislated against, but that is a straw man argument, since no one could seriously make that argument to begin with.
Statists (Liberals/Progressives/Communists/Socialists/etc) wish to impose a morality that they have invented themselves, and use the law to do it. They particularly love using the common law and Constitutional law, but they enact legislation too (such as "Hate Crimes" bills).
Conservatives prefer to limit laws to a morality based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, and further believe that such laws should be as limited as possible, in order to allow the maximum possible liberty for all people. As for maintaining social order, Conservatives prefer non-governmental institutions (such as the church) over the law. This is why Progressives seek to degrade our extra-governmental institutions (such as the church); they know that as extra-governmental institutions are degraded, instability and anarchy grows, and the only safe-haven left is the almighty STATE.
Yes, nice Irish boys….
Oooooh. Showing that bogus tolerance… tsk tsk. It's actually short for Eugenia, but
I'm not faking tolerance here: You're an overly sensitive moron.
Sensitive indeed.
"We should hold ourselves to a higher standard."
Pssst! You're gay! Try not being a practicing homosexual, then talk about high standards.
"We should hold ourselves to a higher standard."
Hey, Paul: Pssst! You're gay! Try not being a practicing homosexual, then talk about high standards.
The Gay Rights movement, like the feminist movement, environmental movement ect was instigated by Marxists. The Marxist use these causes as a trojan horse. The left is very good at identifing a problem or injustice but they then seduce good people with their Marxist cure. At the time of Stonewall in 1969, protests against the US were in vogue and the gay community followed suit with the Marxist tactics. The goal of Marxism of course is not to liberate gays or anyone else. The aim is to weaken and destroy capitalism and the USA is the most powerful example. Today, the left must make common cause with Islamic fascism in order to destroy the USA; enemy of my enemy is my friend. Therefore the gay groups focus on Christian bigots but ignore Islamic butchers of gay people. When the "punk jihad" act like the thugs they are, the left ignore it or excuse it because it does not fit in with their leftist narrative which is Islam is a victim; Christian is evil.
I hope that helps.
RobCon:
Excellent analysis and summary.
Oh, please.
White homosexual men were considered human from the founding of this country and enjoy FULL constitutional rights. Naturally, the "gay rights" movement has been pretty easy since many of its members are White guys and thus get a pass.
BLACK civil rights activists like Martin Luther King had to fight against White racists armed with guns, attack dogs, water hoses, nooses and fire bombs to win their God-give constitution rights to life, liberty, and property. Not surprisingly, Black people who went through that period like my mother question how pampered White homosexual activists are "oppressed." After all, they are WHITE people, whose ancestors who never had to endured Jim Crow.
So, Black people like myself have EVERY right to question whether homosexual activists have the guts to follow Dr. King's example and face down enemies (i.e., Muslim) who are armed to the teeth.
That ironic coming from a liberal homosexual activists like yourself.
The following article is more proof that many American homosexual activists don't have a clue about the creeping threat of sharia law:
"Radical imam to open VA legislature" :
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id...
The above imam preaches at a mosque that is a popular spot for Muslim terrorists like the 9/11 hijackers. Nevertheless, Delegate Adam Ebbin invited him anyway.
House Chairman James Lafferty notes a sad irony about Delegate Ebbin picking this particular imam (emphasis mine):
"A delegate named Adam Ebbin — he's my delegate, oddly enough — invited this imam," [James] Lafferty comments. "And it's just very ironic because Mr. Ebbin is openly gay and he's Jewish. Clearly if these people succeed, he's going to be one of their first targets."
It saddens me that as a gay American who votes, believes in God, pays taxes, in a monogamous relationship for over 13 years, that the ignorance about homosexuality continues. If you do not believe we are good citizens then you are not looking hard enough. If you do not believe that homosexuality is not endemic in the Muslim religious populations then you have the intellectual capacity of George W. Bush and the clerics of Iran. We are here, we are Queer, and we will be here well after you and your red-necked, narrrow minded ideologues are long gone.
THE WORLD IS ROUND!
Think about it.
Scott in Seattle
We see that Scott here is a "gay American." Can anyone be an American who puts his "gay" first and his American last? That's right, Scott, the world is round and the "gay" is square. Trying to fit a square "gay" into a round world is, um. . . abomination. And indeed, at the rate you fellas are producing, incubating and propagating new diseases, the rest of us will be "long gone" if we keep putting up with you.
Oooooh. Showing that bogus tolerance… tsk tsk. It's actually short for Eugenia, but
I'm not faking tolerance here: You're an overly sensitive moron.
One more thing.
If Sharia law is legalized in America, THEN White homosexual activists will know what it was like being Black under Jim Crow.
Gay-Bar bomber, Eric Robert Rudolph and the guys who murdered Harvey Milk and Matt Shepard
are considered HEROES by most folks on the "Right" along with the guy who shot-up a liberal church because the folks there were "gay friendly"
Not to mention that Gays were reposible for the attacks on 9/11 as Jerry Falwell claimed
One way to achieve that is by eliminating words designed to hurt from our vocabulary in this kind of dialogue.
That's not going to happen. Ever. Grow a backbone, develop thick-skin, and learn to live with a very tough thing called Life.
I've been called worse before. Do I whine about it and ask my US Representative to enact a legislation banning certain hurt words?
I'm reminded of this quote from Daniel Greenberg:
“The idea that Islam can be an ingredient in a multicultural society is as foolish as the idea that adding a tank full of piranhas to an aquarium will result in species diversity. Because Islam does not participate in the ecology of a multicultural society, it is a predator consuming and destroying cultures and beliefs and leaving only corpses and frightened victims in its wake.”
If the people of San Francisco think Islam is a wonderful addition to the diversity of San Francisco, they'll be in for a rude shock from walking, talking "piranhas" who read the Quran religiously.
Roxsannd:
Quote the Comments! (If you find any)
Trolling? Pathetic.
granted that much of the gay press is as guilty as the mainstream press for the non-reporting of the islamic threat… and that the gay rights movement had largely allowed itself to be hijacked by leftist groups under the mis-guided notion that if gays supported them, they would support gays in return (that hasn't worked out so well)…. BUT … it's much too simplistic to label all gay people as wild-eyed, christian-hating lefties. gay people are as diverse a group as straight people.. there are gay people of every political and religious persuasion and they live in every city and town in this country and around the world, not just in 'gay meccas'.
the three muslim thugs in this story bought into the same stereotype being expressed in so many of the comments here.. that the gay people they sought to attack are some easily-identifiable 'others' who only live in certain areas so they had to come over to san fran to 'find one'. there are as many heteros as homos who are not grasping the threat posed to western societies by radical islam. we need to educate everyone of the threat and the need to speak up against it, rather than slinging insults at each other, or we will wake up one day to discover that it's too late for us all.
"Gay-Bar bomber, Eric Robert Rudolph and the guys who murdered Harvey Milk and Matt Shepard
are considered HEROES by most folks on the "Right" along with the guy who shot-up a liberal church because the folks there were "gay friendly"" — Steve
Really? When did you conduct *that* survey. You see, even here, when we're talking about three Muslims accosting a homosexual, the "gay" lobby can not restrain itself for a moment from twisting it right back onto the Christians and "the Right." Do the expressions "ax to grind" and "obsession" come to mind? Of course lack of restraint and twisting are two very large hallmarks of homo-compulsive behavior and two large reasons why it's not just a "sexual preference" or activity. Homosexuality is indeed a socially destructive, misanthropic mindset.
People seem to think that gay bashing in San Francisco is a rare event. Kids from the 'burbs come here every weekend to raise hell. At least a few times a year, they beat someone and that someone is almost always a gay man. Articles covering those other incidents don't routinely list the faith of the perps. Now, when it turns out that they are all from the same congregation and that congregation is virulently anti-gay, then, sure, the press mentions it.
And if gay sites didn't cover this attack by bb-gun, perhaps it's because they're too caught up in more "trivial" issues like the on-going lynching of gay people in Nigeria and Uganda, or the beating and imprisonment of that couple in Malawi, or the sentencing to 1000 lashes and a year in prison for the Saudi man who had the nerve to dance in a gay way in a youtube video, etc., etc., etc.
"People seem to think that gay bashing in San Francisco is a rare event. Kids from the 'burbs come here every weekend to raise hell. At least a few times a year, they beat someone and that someone is almost always a gay man." — BobN
Well, in San Francisco, they don't have much choice, do they? Where do you find a straight man trawling the streets in that town? That's like saying that if the Chinese nuked San Francisco it would be a "homophobic" act, just because that city is supposedly twenty per cent homosexual.
"And if gay sites didn't cover this attack by bb-gun, perhaps it's because they're too caught up in more "trivial" issues like the on-going lynching of gay people in Nigeria and Uganda. . .Malawi . . " — BobN
Gee, do you suppose anti-homosexual reactions are ubiquitous, universal, world-wide and not at all dependent on whether or not the "homophobe" in question is a Christian or a Republican?
The fact is, the "gays" bring shame upon any term they prefer to be called in rather short order. How about calling 'em "fruits." Fruits are generally regarded as a good things, unless they're "gays." "Homo" is a benign Greek word meaning "same", unless it's a homosexual. "Queer" would just be a little "odd" except for what the brotherhood of the butt has done to it. Then of course, there's "gay" itself. Bright and cheerful? Not no more. Now it means narcissistic, frenetically self-indulgent, compulsive hyperpromiscuous sodomites. Yuk! Who wants that? Four good words destroyed by association with "Yuk, who wants that."
"To fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits, and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society's moral codes but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution…the most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake…is to transform the notion of 'family' entirely." — (Michelangelo Signorile, "Bridal wave," Out, Dec 1994)
Not that there's anything wrong with that, eh? Not that there's everything Marxist about it either.
Of course He does. And anyone who tries to tell you differently doesn't have a very good understanding of God. God loves everyone, and He will judge everyone when that meeting takes place. Will He judge you harshly for being gay? I can't say for sure whether He will or won't. It's not my place to do so in His stead, either. I believe we were told to "love one another". I don't recall any caveats to that, such as, "unless the other is gay, or an adulterer, or a thief, etc." As aharris said, we are all sinners. Yes, we are. And we are all unique individuals, our sins are our own. When I meet my maker, I'm sure it will be a conversation much like the many I had with my parents: "You know I love you, no matter what, but *sneaking out your bedroom window at 2am is just not acceptable".
(*just an example. I never snuck out. I was a model child.)
The Late Great Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson, on Gays and the 9/11 attacks
FALWELL:
"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the Gays and the Lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way–all of them who have tried to secularize America–I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen." (9/11)
PAT ROBERTSON: "Well, I totally concur"
Thanks Right-Wingnuts
Gay rights groups have been hijacked by Marxist puppets. Advancing actual equal rights takes a back seat to advancing Communism wich requires the destruction of Christianity to survive.
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I moved to San Francisco from Europe in December of 2005. In the last December issue of that year I noticed an article in the San Francisco Gay Newspaper "Bay Area Reporter". In an article, this free newspaper pleaded and urged the gay community to "accept and tolerate" Muslim Extremists and the intolerant Taliban because they are now the new minority. Especially after 9/11 this intolerant group would need "support and protection" of the gay community. Is this insane or what?
My California Limousine Liberal friends thought that this is actually a great idea. My point that Gay Sex under the Islamic Law is punishable by death was dismissed as "incorrect". I told these ignorant gay fools that if Muslims would run this country, gays would not be able to shove and flirt their sexuality into everyone's face – as it is the case in many Islamist countries. Lambs to the Slaughter anyone?
Another shock came last weekend when a gay couple told me on a party that one of them has been beaten in the famous post "Pink Saturday" gay bashings in San Francisco. They were not at all upset about this. They actually defended the attackers as being "pushed over their limits" and should not be punished for their hate crimes. Go figure.
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