Already, the media has jumped on the John Patrick Bedell story, claiming that he was a raving right winger “with virulent antigovernment feelings,” as the Christian Science Monitor puts it. And, just as they did with the Joseph Stack case, they’re ignoring the evidence in order to come to that conclusion.
John Patrick Bedell, whom authorities identified as the gunman in the Pentagon shooting on Thursday, appears to have been a right-wing extremist with virulent antigovernment feelings.

If so, that would make the Pentagon shooting the second violent extremist attack on a federal building within the past month. On Feb. 18, Joseph Stack flew a small aircraft into an IRS building in Austin, Texas. Mr. Stack left behind a disjointed screed in which, among other things, he expressed his hatred of the government.
“If so…” That’s a pretty big “if.”
Let’s start by noting that Bedell was a registered Democrat. The media has completely and conveniently ignored that little fact.
They’ve also ignored that he was anti-military; he believed the military murdered Marine Colonel James Sabow. This is a conspiracy theory popular among left-wingers, who believe that Sabow, whose death was ruled a suicide by official investigators, was killed because he knew too much about drug- and weapons-smuggling activities at his military base.
He was anti-Bush; his amazon.com reading list included left wing tomes like The Immaculate Deception: The Bush Crime Family Exposed, and Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces that Put It in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America.
He thought that the Bush Administration had staged 9/11 in order to centralize government power:
This organization, like so many murderous governments throughout history, sacrifice of thousands of its citizens in an event such as the September 11th attacks, as a small cost in order to perpetuate its barbaric control. This collection of gangsters would find it in their interests to foment conflict and initiate wars throughout the world in order to divert attention from their misconduct and criminality. The true nature of such a regime would find its clearest expression in Satanic violence currently ongoing in Iraq.
This mirrors Noam Chomsky far more than Rush Limbaugh; meanwhile, the media is attempting to play it off as some sort of legitimate “right-wing” perspective. Real conservatives look at the 9/11 truthers as complete dolts, and complete left-wing dolts at that. This guy was more Van Jones (a fellow 9/11 truther) than John Boehner or Sarah Palin.

He supported legalization of marijuana, as the media reported immediately. That’s not in the Republican or Tea Party program.
He was a 36-year-old man going to school full time at San Jose State University – not exactly the hallmark of a right-winger.
Basically, the media is hanging its hat on a rant that Bedell posted at archive.org, in which he made several arguments for less government intrusion and for private property. Here’s a sampling:
The most basic principle of economic justice is the protection of private property and the protection of the right to freely exchange that property. Modern governments, however, consistently and routinely violate the rights of property owners with the assumption – the incorrect assumption – that government can utilize property more efficiently than its lawful owners can. As institutionalized theft by property violation becomes increasingly routine and accepted, it has far-reaching consequences for the character and morality of society as a whole. The injustice of that permeates society and creates disrespect for the law. On the part of ruling elites, the perception is created that society is to be exploited for the benefit of the rulers. Incentives are created to generate and promote ignorance throughout society to conceal the injustice of that. As the institutionalized violence of government is used to violate the rights of individuals to keep and trade their own property, the violation of economic justice inevitably results in the undermining of justice in every other part of society.
So far, this is standard fare. If the media wants to label this “right wing,” that’s at least relatively accurate. But then he runs off the rails:
A criminal organization able to conduct its activities from within the center of power of the United States government would have powerful advantages over other criminal groups. … Such an organization would be able to protect its shipments of illicit drugs into the United States while using the power of law enforcement organization to imprison their would-be competitors, and would subsequently be able to distribute those illicit drugs and launder the enormous profits in the huge and minutely-regulated financial markets of the United States. This criminal organization would use its powers to convert military, intelligence and law enforcement bureaucracies into instruments for political control and the domination and subjection of society while discrediting, destroying and murdering honest individuals within those services that work to root out corruption and faithfully serve their fellow citizens.

This, plainly put, is crazy talk. The media wants to ignore the crazy talk in favor of the intelligible argument, but you simply can’t do that – they’re both part of his comprehensive psychotic worldview which meshes paranoia with leftist hatred of the Bushes and love for pot. He’s half Ron Paul follower, half Lyndon LaRouche delusional. Pillorying him as a typical Tea Partier simply demonstrates the lengths the media will go to destroy the mainstream conservative movement in this country. And that is scurrilous.






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Ben,
Thanks for the article. Despite the spin, the guy was a left wing whacko that hated Bush.
On a serious note, I love your photo at the bottom of your thread. If one wears the tinfoil with the shiny side in, the black helicopters have a harder time tracking you……..
The Lying Leftist Media CANNOT destroy the mainstream conservative movement in this country…
…quite the contrary, the Lying leftist media is dying and more and more Americans every day are ignoring the lies and cries of "racist', "extremist" and 'teabagger" that are the death rattles of the putrid, decaying, evil Leftist Media.
Just goes to show–everyone really is against govt intrusion ;-(
We always take bets in my house on how long it takes the MSM to paint every lunatic that comes down the pike as a right wing whacko. I won the last two!
The MSM still doesn't get it…we are so fed up of their constant lies but we know better.
Look at the phrasing these…..gentlemen…..use –
" appears to have been a right-wing extremist with virulent antigovernment feelings.
If so, that would make the Pentagon shooting the second violent extremist attack on a federal building within the past month "
Oh! I see, 2 right wing extremeists, 2 violent extremist attacks (presumably because they were both right wing extremists…) on Federal buildings.
Then…
If one of these guys had been a left wing extremist should I think there was only 1 violent extremist attack on a Federal building in the past month? And if they were both left wing extremists then there have been NO violent extremist attacks on Federal buildings in the past month?
Is that how it works? These……gentlemen…..make me want to vomit.
Another Democrat goes postal and conservatives are blamed-.
The Truthercrats are Zombies that do not understand how profound and joyful our free society is.
Instead they fool themselves by seeking something meaningful in "profound conspiracy" instead of helping preserve actual freedom for all.
Thanks for the article. It is comforting to know the drive-by media can be refuted across the 'net so quickly after disengorging their usual garbage.
Mr Shapiro, with all due respect, I think you missed the most important part of what they said.
*If so, that would make the Pentagon shooting the second violent extremist attack on a federal building within the past month.*
So they're not extremists unless they're right-wing?? (Which is worse, bc Stack wasn't conservative. He was clearly a Marxist.)
I posted this on a thread over at BG seemed appropriate.
Full on barking leftist moonbat shoots fellow professors in Alabama, leftist moonbat crashes plane into IRS building, blithering leftist 9/11 truther attacks pentagon hmmm…could it be a trend.
It would seem they’re still having to buy gas, pay their utility bills, mortgages etc. I guess Barry’s stash is not getting out to his constituency fast enough?
Man, thank God the Internets finally allow us to refute this garbage so quickly — though unfortunately, to those who still watch "the news" for their news, the propaganda still sinks in.
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All of these deranged murderers are not only liberals but they're registered democrats.
This demented killer that shot the pentagon security personnel was a registered democrat, just like Bill Ayers. The kamikaze pilot that flew his plane into the IRS was an anti-Bush corporate-hating leftwing cretin. Undoubtedly also a registered democrat. The murdering lunatic professor from Harvard is a hardcore liberal mental defective.
There's nothing rightwing about these freaks, they're your run of the mill obama supporters.
Perfect example of why we need guns to protect ourselves. This guy was a left wing nut.
Not that it matters, but he sounds like a leftie dope head. A poor marksman, also; definitely a leftie. He thought 9/11 was the government; he may be related to Van Jones, Obama's former green jobs czar.
all this left-wing, right-wing junk has everyone chasing their tails and distracted from real issues.
who cares about sides of the aisle when things like this happen?
wake up people! you are being played against yourselves!!
A right wing extremist wouldn't attack the Pentagon.
We know that the left, on every level, is waging a constant war against the truth. John Patrick Bedell was one of them. He was living a lie. Come to think of it, so are the people in the White House. They are not attacking the Pentagon (yet). They are attacking the people. This is war, and for far too long the left has been making the truth a casualty of this war. They are about to become casualties of the truth.
I don't know one right-winger (and I know many), that would not die protecting THE ONE from harm! How anyone could consider otherwise is ridiculus!
I personally hate everthing THE ONE is doing to destroy this country, and yet I would not hesitate to take a bullet for him.
I'm sure when any right-winger considers that Biden would then be president, they all would agree.
THE ONE is dangerous because he knows exactely how to destroy our capitalist system, but Biden would be much worse due to his utter stupidity, arrogance and intellectual vapidity. He has been wrong concerning every foreign policy on which he has commented.
Never mind the fact that Pelosi would be even closer to the White House…BRRRRRRR, that sends a horrific chill up my spine!
So, fellow Americans, bring on the elections and please, God, help us keep THE ONE safe from the lefts bombers rioters and union thug communists.
Ron Reale
realetybytes@yahoo.com
realetybytes.townhall.com
That certainly sums up the lefty media clearly. Good comment.
This is common and typical for the leftist media. Remember the Holocaust Museum shooter? The IRS plane crasher… same thing.
…as another person posted (on another thread), WIKIPEDIA quickly erased this person’s page. Hmmmm…
I will try to find the thread and post for you, but the person posting also gave the ARCHIVED link to Bedell’s wiki page… VERY LEFT-LEANING (as in laying prostrate in that direction) stuff.
…now how would WIKI know to pull and wipe this ONE PERSON’S page, out of the MILLIONS within its servers… SO SOON?
CM Sackett
Ron Paul is not a Truther! 99% of Ron Paul supporters are not truthers. Don't engage in groupism
Good point. Also the leftwing lunatic that brought a gun to an El Al terminal at LAX. Then there are the leftwing subhumans that shot a soldier outside of a recruiting station [maybe it was a church]. You also have God hating liberal cockroaches that like to commit arson against churches.
Most on the left are mentally ill.
Great article Ben. I'm at a loss to explain why the old media doesn't understand what's going on around them, I know they're pretty insular but still, it's like Baghdad Bob on steroids. We're not "right wing lunatics", we're not "right wing extremists"( man, I'm way to worn out to be extreme at anything). Guess what though, we figured it out, finally. Thanks to people like Andrew, Glenn, Powerline, Tim Blair, Steyn, Jonah Goldberg…the list goes on and on. The alphabet media no longer control the conversation, and it's good to talk back loud and proud. Go get em' they've earned it.
Damn, now you tell me.
I want a HOLEBAMA sticker to put on all the Porta-Johns I can find.
Hmmmmm?
Why the passive-aggressive swipe at Ron Paul? He's not a truther, and neither are most of the people who support him. Folks bring out these labels when they can't debate a person on the merits. It's no different from a lefty screaming "Racist!" every time someone criticizes Obama. You don't like Paul, that's fine. But don't try to lump him in with a group he has completely rejected simply because you can't argue against him using facts. That's just lazy.
Also, I've never understood how a healthy distrust of the government is a bad thing. I myself have "virulent antigovernment feelings," a trait which was quite common among this country's founders.
Ask J-Nap. She wrote the book on rightwing terror risks. And she wrote one about the lefties as well.
Death to Progressivism. It is a cancer on our Republic.
Let's face it, according to the MSM, anyone who commits a crime with a gun is a right-wing extremist. Anyone who firebombs a bunch of Hummers is an environmentally concerned citizen.
Attempting to align his actions to a political party or ideology is pretty stupid, but the press will try. He was obviously a mentally disturbed individual, and regardless of whether his mistrust of the Pentagon was a "leftist" or "right-wing" position, it is his actions that should be condemned. Just because you believe abortion is wrong, doesn't put you in the same boat as someone that bombs clinics. And as for the legalization of cannabis, that is a conservative stance, unless you think the Government should dictate whether or not an adult should have the right to enjoy a harmless herb. Many "conservatives" maintain this hypocritical stance on where the Government should be butting it's nose into people's personal lives.
All these violent folks have one thing in common besides "political confusion"….All fell from the nut tree…
Truthers, Birthers, Tax Deniers and all these shooters, pilots, bombers, and the rest of the conspiracy boobs, are all deranged crazies to one extent or 'nother…
If conservatives could point to the section of the constitution that uses the words "drugs" or "marriage," I'd be obliged to agree with them that the government has a role in those areas. Until then, though, they are fairly hypocritical in saying they believe in limited government when they push government into areas in which it has no right to interfere.
We already know the truth…it has set us free.
did ya'll miss the line about the guy being part ron paul, part lyndon larouche? lyndon has no standing with the democratic party, but conservatives at their recent convention DID pick ron paul as their preferred candidate.
plenty of 9.11ers at tea party rallies, too.
HPD
Why the gratuitous attack on RP….? Just looking for a fight?
Wikipedia's only purpose is the continuous re-definition of everything. Very Alinsky-esque.
um….. Doc ALWAYS makes good comments.
true. he'd make a donation.
Check is in the mail, good buddy… ; )
well….what do you expect for a bunch of socialist "truthers"…..whatever happened, it was Bush's fault, and Karl Rove told him to do it. and if he were black, he would be a hero for standing up to "the man" and attacking the evil military/industrial complex headquarters at the Pentagon.
Bush told him to do it.
[...] front of the Pentagon was a right wing, anti-government extremist, whom the right will attempt to pass off as a left wing, 9/11 “truther.” John Patrick Bedell is the second white, non-Muslim, [...]
Which Tea Party did you attend? …at UC Berkley.
OK folks… Its the Christian Science Monitor!!! A media group that uses the word Christian to promote the UN agenda! Can I quote the apostle Paul! " If you do not work, you do not eat"
Power to the states and stop the Federal oppression
maybe this one: http://boston911truth.org/teaparty/
or this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cId8GQjVMw8
how many antigovernment people have to attack before we call it a terrorist movement, anyway? everyone was quick to label the attack by that military loon a terrorist.
Today's "Ron Paul devotees" are just like Barry Goldwater's supporters: smart, young, and scary as hell to establishment Republicans.
They're the future of the party whether anyone wants them to be or not. It's simple demographics, To put it bluntly, the people who dislike Ron Paul's views will be dying off.
Limited government means limited government. Mitt Romney isn't limited government. Sarah Palin isn't limited government. John McCain isn't limited government. Dick Cheney and George W. Bush weren't limited government. By the way, do all these people have supporter who you'd label as "devotees," as though they're part of a cult? Mocking folks doesn't amount to a valid argument against an idea.
If Republicans weren't so short-sighted, they'd realize they have the perfect answer to Obama in someone like Mr. Paul. He could get the youth vote and ensure electoral wins for the party for years if the party would only live up to all its limited government rhetoric.
do a web search for tea party and truthers, and you'll find any number of truthers holding tea parties. just is.
for those who say there are no 9.11 truthers at tea parties, what about this?
maybe this one: http://boston911truth.org/teaparty/
or this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cId8GQjVMw8
don't know, I belong to neither group, but it's your rep on the lines.
I wish MSM would learn something from you. How to use facts to prove an arguement. Great article!
That bottom picture of the kook with the tin foil hat looks like Charles Johnson of LGF fame– I am sure he is listing this shooting incident as one of his proofs-positive that "rightwingers are dangerous extremists."
Since Johnson firmly believes that Gore is right and that those who question AGW are the "flat-earth unscientific" ones, this article showing that the shooter was a registered Democrat will surely be swept away like a tsi tsi fly, as some 'fabrication' of Breitbart.
The constant Ron Paul bashing is getting really annoying. I don't see how proper fiscal conservatives could constantly be bashing someone as fiscally conservative as Paul. Wouldn't you rather have Paul as president rather than Obama?
Here is the link to the ARCHIVED WIKI PAGE for Bedell:
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:PGR3hZJ98S0J:...
….my apologies to the original poster. I found the link in my history, but I could not find your post… or I would give FULL CREDIT.
Thank you though, for taking the time to post it this morning!
CM Sackett
gb8898
Ron Paul is the current day Ross Perot,( 2RP's in a pod)..Deranged cultlike following, most in favor of isolatioism, gold standard, Federal Reserve abandonment and said he" wasn't so sure about 9-11"..
Someone like RP will always be fringe, no matter how much parfume you try to put on his sorry ass…
Did Mr. Perot win at CPAC? Just sayin'…
Most Republicans don't like Paul because he points out their blatant hypocrisy and, for lack of a better made-up word, unconservativeness.
Right winger? The man believed charges were set in the twin towers. And that 9-11 was an inside job. Only someone who is intentionally trying to lie or mislead the public could conclude this man was a right winger. Whoever is putting out such obvious lies should be fired. I'll bet if party affiliations are revealed we'd find this kook was either a member of the Green party or a Democrat.
Whoa dude…………………….where do I get the high-definition tinfoil hat?
That baby is SWEET!
You're right. But a GOOD right-wing extremist would enlist the Pentagon to attack Capitol Hill and the White House!
I humbly offer my services as a GOOD right-wing extremist.
Cowboy, did you notice that tinfoil hat is the new high-definition version.
I'll bet you that baby cost a bundle.
Chucky J lost his marbles years ago. He is a nothing-monger. I deleted all of his beach/bike seat/fencepost photos, post haste.
[...] Don’t Believe the MSM: John Patrick Bedell, the Pentagon Shooter, was no Right-Winger [...]
At least the murderous freak got a tiny part of it right…
I suppose that means we're making some sort of headway…
I, however, shall go down into the bunker when the rest start hitting their particular incontrovertible walls of truth…
Safer that way…
hey, ron ray, try reading for a change. Are you referring to the "Hasan/Ft Hood incident"? You DO realize, that Hasan had contact, CONTINUOUS contact with the Islamic preacher who was the "religious leader" of a few of the 9/11 hijackers?
bullshit. I throw the bullshit flag.
Sucker bet…you should be ashamed…
So, are you going to Las Vegas for vacation…or someplace real expensive…?
GB8898
First off, I'm not a RINO, like the Repubs you mentioned above,.All but Sarah are Beltway Bandits, pretty much committed to BigGov'ment albeit somewhat smaller then their DimBulb buddies across the aisle….Not Conservative, as I define it and look for in candidates. I would stay home if he were the Repub candidate…
You're replying like a petchulant troll offended someone has different libertarian taste then you…I've already told you why I don't think RP will ever go anywhere…Like Ross Perot, he's a political loser…IMHO…
.
ROTFLMAO…!
Thanks, gang…!
I just checked out his youtube channel and his one video. Someone should grab it before it gets taken down.
http://www.youtube.com/user/jpbedell2006#p/f
Huh…?
So who's your pick then? Pawlenty? Jindal? Scott friggin' Brown? Sarah endorsed McCain in his senate race. She's pretty and gives good speeches, which makes her the Republican equivalent of an Obama, so I just don't see it happening for her.
What I don't get about your argument is that non-interventionism (not isolationism; there's a difference) and the gold standard used to be Republican principles. You probably didn't even know that Reagan favored a return to the gold standard, did you? If it all comes down to foreign policy, just say so.
You must be happy with Obama, right? He's doing nothing different from Bush and Cheney. Maybe you'll cast your vote for him.
Oklahoma passed a law making it a felony to fortify your home. They want to make sure the police can get in the event of a raid. Of course, if you fortify against criminals now you are one. The world has gone insane. And this was a republican who sponsored the bill. They dont care whether you are a democrat or a republican…they just want to break down your door and shoot you. As long as they keep the sides bickering, they can continue to erode everyone's rights without us noticing. One day liberals, republicans, left, right, libertarians, constitutionalists will all share teh same cell. Maybe then we will reflect on what happened, but i think it is going to be too late to make a difference. Legalize freedom.
To Janet Napolitano…
Please re- issue your, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment", with the following changes…to wit…
Substitute "Left Wing" for all rightwing references, change all conservative bumper stickers to any with the Obama "symbol", DNC platform support, or environmentalism, and inspect those vehicles for weapons and tinfoil hats, shiny side in…
Man, these dudes are so pathetic – there simply isn't any murderer left in the world who clearly wasn't/ isn't a right-winger, a birther or a conservative –
I am surprised that Jack the Ripper ain't been proved a Dick Cheney admirer, or Sacco and Vanzetti were some closet republicans –
The reverse is also valid – Spinnozza was an oppressed gay, so was Descrates, Tolstoy and Balzac – Beethoven and Debussy were gay, too and all what they were talking all day long was about the rainforests and the superiority of the Pygmy poetry over anything West or Caucasian –
We live in a complete parody -
Drifter
If your looking for Conservative purity, Im afraid you're destined for disappointment…Not many Paul Ryans, Michelle Bachmans, Eric Cantors around
But I agree RP will not be President, mostly because he's like 77 y/o…Kind like McLame..
I'd rather have either then Barry O.
gb8898
Not crazy about any of the names you mentioned…LOL (below ) mentioned 3 good candidates…Ones that I can get excited about….
I goes without saying, I'm not happy with Obama…Never liked Afghanistan after we booted the Taliban after 9-11
But, being that it's still a free country, you can spout RP praises here all nite…But I'm leavin' it there….No sense in beatin' this mule any more…
http://www.takeourworldback.com/itwasntmuslims.ht...
Well then, ronray, they are not credible tea parties – we do not buy into the truther garbage – nice try
My cousin. Age 55 along with 15 other women (including a friend of 78 yrs). Went on a mission trip from their church! Before coming back to the US. She had bought a very small souvenir knife! Like 1 and 1/2 inchs long! (Without thinking about it being prohibited). When it was found on the return to America, she was detained for over 8 hrs! As they questioned her! And GET THIS tryed to make her confess she attempted to attack one of those questioning her with the knife! (My cousin related this and I know she would not make it up! She had no reason to! As the 78 year old did not have a reason to threatin anyone!) Anyway she was so fearful and tired etc! That she agreed to sign an admission to the effect she indeed threatined them with the knife! (This was a CHRISTIAN group of volunteers doing GODS work !) I wonder if OTHER Christians are having such FALSE allegations being signed out of fear! I myself would like to think I would rather DIE then submit to agreeing to such lies! But WHO REALLY knows! Why would anyone do this? (To turn TRUTH into a LIE! And a LIE into the truth! God heip us my friends! ONLY HE can! With much Love!
Try and remember one thing when you attempt to pin obamacare on Romney – he was doing what his state wanted – unlike BO, who does what HE wants –
And the CPAC win, please, that is about as thin as it gets – kinda shot yourself in the foot as Romney won it as well -
No kidding! This is the lamest claim I've seen
Watch out for Ms. Bachman. I've heard she has lunch with Mr. Paul every week and they discuss Austrian economics and the Fed.
There are some Jews who are communists. What conclusion about me will you draw from that fact?
There may be the occasional kook amongst the partiers. There may also be plants and shills. I don't think our rep is in jeopardy, thanks.
I read the note above mine! THIS is the EXAMPLE of TURNING TRUTH into LIES and LIES into truth! God help us! The time is short! EVIL is giveing its final gasp! As JUDGEMENT awaits those that serve THEIR GOD and FATHER SATAN! The GOD of TRUTH being JESUS CHRIST! HE IS the way the TRUTH and the LIGHT! With much Love!
No, the MSM is playing against reality.
Wow. After reading some of his stuff on the web, and watching this video, I'm convinced the guy was quite mentally ill; possibly even schizophrenic.
I'd feel sorry for him, if he hadn't attempted murder.
no,no….. shiny side OUT is more reflective!
First off, Ben: why wasn't the writer of this crappy hit piece on Tea party members and conservatives not put out in the open for all to see (as AB would)?
The writer's name is Peter Grier.
I sent him a message asking him why he'd lie about Bedell being a right-wing-nut. And I told him he should be ashamed of himself!
And you ALL should too.
http://www.csmonitor.com/About/Contact/Staff-Writ...
Don't let this article stand. We don't just "talk" anymore – WE ACT.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0305/John-Patri...
First off, Ben?
Why wasn't the writer of this crappy hit piece on Tea Party members and conservatives not put out in the open for all to see – - as Andrew Breitbart would do?
<center>The writer's name is Peter Grier.</center>
I sent him a message asking him why he'd lie about Bedell being a right-wing-nut. And I told him he should be ashamed of himself!
And you ALL should too.
http://www.csmonitor.com/About/Contact/Staff-Writ...
Don't let this article stand. We don't just "talk" anymore – WE ACT.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0305/John-Patri...
Then write to the writer! We all should! His name is Peter Grier.
http://www.csmonitor.com/About/Contact/Staff-Writ...
Sounds like a right-wing libertarian to me – I can reference this own cite!
http://www.breitbart.tv/pentagon-shooter-airs-ant...
Man, the Left wing whack jobs are going berserk! Last week, Austin, TX, now this guy. I guess their savior Obammie isn't what they really expected.
John Patrick Bedell……All I know is that aside from alledged Pentagon shooter John Bedell
that Ludwig Von Mises’ biggest fans are fascists indeed such as James
Dale Davidson founder of Steve Forbes’ National Taxpayers Union near
the SEC headquarters in Alexandria,Virginia as well as newsmax.con
that includes the British fascist Lord William Rees-Mogg,deceased
wingnut General Al Haig,et.al. and Agora Inc,Baltimore(and world wide
internet) penny stock promoting and money laundering scumbags Bill
Bonner, Lila Rajiva, Lard William Rees-Mogg,and CIA ‘economist’ and
Columbia University parasite Mark Skousen of the Nevada Fraud ‘Freedom
Fest’ et.al..Their corrupt group also incluses Texas Republican
wingnut and womens rights denier Ron Paul who lied to the SEC about
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac AND THEIR SLEEZY PENNY STOCKS being ‘naked
shorted’ for them .
All these Lew RockWell-ian parasites are Misians which certainly in
itself doesn’t say anything good about Ludwig Von Mises.Maybe Mises
wasn’t a crook,pseudo-intellectual or CIA scumbag but his admirers at
present certainly are.
http://washingtonindependent.com/78543/john-bedel...
John Bedell and Ludwig von Mises
By David Weigel 3/5/10 3:39 PM ThinkProgress points to a strange item
on the Bazpedia page of Pentagon metro shooter John Patrick Bedell,
buried below the incomprehensible kookery (”I have posted the image to
the right in order to illustrate the use of cannabis as a monetary
system using digital financial instruments“) and a brief appreciation
of libertarian economist Ludwig von Mises.
…
LewRockwell.comAn anti-state/pro-market site on the net run by the
president of the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Updated 6 days a week.
http://www.lewrockwell.com
What school were those riots at in what state maybe we should research that it may be right wing as well.
Nice find. I watched for a bit, but got creeped-out.
Kindly define fascist, please. To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Let's see now…private property rights, no government schools, freedom to smoke pot, anti-war, anti-government…baby, he's a LIBERTARIAN.
My brother is a raging liberal and he's been a registered Republican his entire adult life.
The liberal dem's have more in common with the National Socialists in Germany than they will admit. If you watch the military channel/ history channel videos or study how the Nat Socialists came to power, you'll see some very scary parallel's to what's going on here, now. Instead of demonizing a race of people and their religion (although Catholics, gays, gypsies, and others were targeted) here a class of people are being demonized and attacked based merely on the basis that they question what the libs believe. There's no discussion or debate of ideas, just attacks.
He was a registered democrat.
He littered the Internet with Truther nonsense.
He hated Bush.
He wanted pot legalized.
He was a follower of Rosie O’Donnell and her 9-11 conspiracy group.
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[...] Don’t Believe the MSM: John Patrick Bedell, the Pentagon Shooter, was no Right-Winger [...]
Registered democRAT + 'Truther' + dot edu email address = far left whackjob …..
that guy in that picture stole my hat … and my satellite dish!!!! i was wonderin where they went.
it's a conspiracy, dammit, it is, i know it.
I knew that!
This guy sounds more like a PAUListinian than anything. 9/11 Trutherism, anti-war, and pro-weed.
You are very wise! If the left attacks, the target had it coming, therefore it doesn’t count as an attack. Liberal logic…ouch!
Yeah. The GOP is desperate to recruit pothead truther schizophrenics. That's more the dems cuppa teabag, I'd say.
Non. Sense. Not even close to truth. Where do you get these things? Tin Foil Central or LGF? Same thing.
gb8898
Ron Paul is the current day Ross Perot,( 2RP's in a pod)..Deranged cultlike following, most in favor of isolatioism, gold standard, Federal Reserve abandonment and said he" wasn't so sure about 9-11"..
Someone like RP will always be fringe, no matter how much parfume you try to put on his sorry ass…
In what way is Ron Paul anti-war? Ask yourself that question, and then look at the things he has written and the speeches he has given. He's not anti-war. He's anti-senseless war and anti-undeclared war. He's absolutely for a war if it protects us as a nation. And, if you read the writings of our Founding Fathers, especially Jefferson and Washington, you'll discover that they too believed that war should be defensive, not offensive. That America shouldn't get engaged in foreign wars fought on foreign soil. And that is precisely what Ron Paul is arguing. Is that radical? Hardly.
Ron Paul is not pro-weed. Ron Paul opposes the War on Drugs as a matter of principle: it is nothing but government intrusion into something, it isn't helping, and it is costly. It's the same thing as Prohibition, but with substances that are funding Mexican drug cartels, Middle Eastern terrorists, and modern street gangs rather than the Mafia and the Kennedys. He supports legalization because it makes sense, because the Prohibition is not working. He doesn't advocate smoking it and he doesn't smoke it himself. He is an individualist, and that is reflected in his belief on marijuana.
As for calling him a Truther, you couldn't be further from the truth. He has spoken out against the Truther movement. Don't slander people. Ron Paul doesn't advocate that bullshit and don't accuse him of such.
Given the Main Stream Media's propaganda objectives in their report of John Patrick Bedell, one has to wonder, who's really more dangerous to America? These John P. Bedell's, or the MSM?
Obviously part of the Southern gun culture… uh-oh. Never mind.
itwasmuslims.stfu
That was soooo far off target. There very few truther tea partiers. I would say there are more pro-gun, pro-life liberals, than there are truther tea partiers. Nice try though.
Ignore this douchebag. He's clearly just another leftist trying to foment insurrection amongst conservatives. Let him foam at the mouth and he'll eventually stroke out from being ignored.
No prob
HAH! It was you, my friend… thanks again.
Sackett
He was a New World Order conspiracy nut. Not a Republican, but the kind of conspiracy crazy that the GOP has been desperate to recruit as they pander to the teabaggers.
What is all this, a Louis Farrakhan moment by people…?
So far, in my professional soldiers opinion, this is all "the gang that can't shoot straight"…these individuals are a greater threat to "normal" people than the Administration, who have REAL threat control measures in place…
In the matter of what is the greater internal political threat nowadays to life and liberty, focus should be on the Prog left in its legislative endeavor (which they are well practiced in), and in radical violence, (which is SO FAR, a greater threat to government employees than the populace in general)…
But even beyond this is the threat of Jihadism…Major Hasan should have taught us this…but I wonder if anyone in the Administration is really listening…
excerpt: "He supported legalization of marijuana, as the media reported immediately. That’s not in the Republican or Tea Party program."
This is a bipartisan concern. Some on the Left & Right oppose it while others of both sides support it.
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The Left desperately wants its right wing poster child, especially after the recent crop of murderous loonies who have solid connections to Leftist doctrine.
This guy is no right-winger that's for sure, but so what IF a right-winger DOES sometime do something outrageous? Would that reflect any more badly on conservatives, Republicans or tea party activists? No.
And, if you read the writings of our Founding Fathers, especially Jefferson and Washington, you'll discover that they too believed that war should be defensive, not offensive.
Right, which would explain why Jefferson sent troops after the Barbary Pirates …not only without a declaration of war from Congress…without even informing Congress.
BAGDAD BOB flurishes in the lame street media. No matter what the truth is they have their facts made up. LMS/MSM wonders why market share is slipping, ABC closing down many outlets across the country but keeping the DC office staffed is more evidence of how out of touch they are. The revolution isn't happening in DC, the results will occur there, but the events are happening all over the country, they just do not want to see it. When the democrats were kicked out in 94, Peter Jennings was amazed….."the country had a temper tantrum" indicating his disdain for the people acting like petulant teenagers. Well 2010 will show it isn't a temper-tantrum….it is outright rage.
The bias in the MSM is so blatant anymore that I cannot believe that there are really any sincere liberals who don’t see it. If you truly believe that the MSM is fair and balanced, I’d love to debate this in a civil discussion. I’m a lowly roofer and I hang out in a discussion site at http://forums.delphiforums.com/BTunited. Cmon by and lets discuss this.
This is a very serious threat to America.
That's silly. US paid tribute and ransom for years – budgeted by Congress. Congress arranged to fund a Navy to protect US interests including those in the Med. Congress actually told the administration to do what was necessary to make the piracy stop. Barbary states occasionally declared war on the US. Our goal was not to conquer the various states but to compel them to stop pirating our commerce, basically a defensive (of American commercial and political interests) stance. Double-check your wikipedia sources.
Too bad this Delusional Domestic Terrorist [DDT] was obviously NOT smoking Cannabis at the time of the assault.
If he had been stoned, he would have stayed home !!!
We need to issue free Medicinal Marijuana to all DDTs !!!
"Free Cannabis for DDTs "!!!!!!
"Free Cannabis for DDTs" !!!!
On the other hand, one has to avoid the martyr complex. CNN, I presume a member of the ultra-liberal "MSM", labelled Bedell as a member of the "fright-wing" with John Avlon talking about poli-freaks on both sides of the spectrum. His book, "Return of the Fright Wing," has talking heads from both sides of the aisle.
Of course, it's easier to pretend the world is out to get you. And, it scores more hits, too.
I agree man. Ron Paul speaks out against the Truthers. The "evidence" used to call Paul a Truther comes from statements where he questions WHY they attacked us. And the explanation is occupation. But he has never tried to blame the American government for the attacks.
Two can play that game. One could say that a welfare-lovin' bleedin' heart liberal would never attack innocent civilians (when he could enlist them in a strike). Isn't this fun? Playing "my extremists are better than your extremists" may not be responsible (or credible) poly-wonkery, but it's more likely to remind me of kindergarten sandbox fights.
Actually, Congress was issuing Letters of Marque and Reprisal on the Barbary Pirates. They were attacking American vessels, and in no specific places. They were a widespread threat. He simply hit their base with the small American Navy. Congress new it was going to happen, don't try to gloss that over.
And Jefferson as a Founder, not as a President. No president has ever lived by the words they said before getting in office or running for office.
The guy sounds like any one of the left-wing trolls that grace us with their presence here. But there's a concerted effort by the MSM to marginalize Tea Party-types by portraying them as gun-toting psychopaths just waiting for the order from Glenn Beck to open fire in a shopping mall.
i have been wondering what i was doing wrong.
my shiny side is out
Hey, I can play that game, too. I saw a bunch of LaRouchies downtown, waving signs demanding that Dick "Halliburton" Cheney be tried for war crimes. Liberals believe Dick Cheney is a war criminal. Therefore, Lyndon LaRouche is a liberal.
Why don't you guys just cut to the chase and call Tea Partiers "terrorists"? At least that will be a war against terrorism that you'd be willing to fight.
Another disenfranchised OBAMA koolaider goes postal. that makes it 3 in2010. Maybe MICHAEL MOORE will be next. the good news is the rattlesnakes are turning on each other, the bad news is they may try to martyrize "THE GREAT ONE" and blame it on us tea partiers. Make JFK assasination look like mere childs play.
Hey Skippy…READ THE WEBSITE. These 9-11 Truth "Boston Tea Party" guys have been around since before the Tea Party Movement and aren't affiliated with it in any way. They don't attend the anti-tax Tea Parties you know and hate…they create their own events and call them "Boston Tea Parties" where they dress up in colonial costumes and tinfoil hats. They think George Bush is a war criminal who plotted 9/11, and they have ties to Marxist organizations. Hey, there's a Tea Party you can feel at home at!
Uhmmmm — no.
That depends on if they agree with who the gov't is suppressing, persecuting, or exploiting.
Let's see now…
Do you think this might, just might, have something to do with "net neutrality"?
I'll have to go back and re-read the GOP platform to see where they call Bush a "war criminal", claim that 9/11 was an inside job, and demand the legalization of pot in order to recruit Tea Partiers (because that's what the Tea Party Movement is all about, you know).
Or better yet, YOU do it.
[...] certain—he had no illusions about surviving this. He wanted his story told. BTW, he was a registered Democrat [hardly right wing]. I own no weapons, I abhore violence, and I am not formally aligned with any [...]
I don't believe he was either left-wing or right-wing. The thing about paranoid schizophrenics is that they think EVERYONE is out to get them. It doesn't matter whether Democrats or Republicans are in power. There were just as many murderous, anti-government nutjobs when Bush was President. You just never heard about them, because the MSM didn't need to them in order to portray peaceful, law-abiding American citizens with legitimate grievances against the Government as potential Timothy McVeighs.
Well, the joke's on him. He's wearing the beanie backwards.
"What do you mean 'we', white-eyes?"
"Radicals", meaning "people who want change at a fundamental level" want massive changes to all parts of US culture, society, and gov't at a root level. The "we" this conservative belongs to wants to take a look at the changes and see if they might work, or if they are just more of the same stupidity I took part in as a stupid and ignorant young man.
YOU are trying to hook us on the desire to belong to a group by telling us that the bandwagon is going "that-away" and we need to hurry to get on it, and ride it over the cliff into slavery. Drop Dead.
A welfare-lovin' bleedin' heart liberal would never attack……….The welfare office.
See how that works.
It's time the Tea Party protests moved from big lawns to sidewalks/streets in front of Black Rock, Time Warner, Rockefeller Center, the NYTimes bldg, etc.
Not a lot will change until the media see that the Right is willing to disrupt the MSM's workdays and lunch breaks. They are still in their comfort zone and the lies/coverups will continue.
/seconded
Seriously dude, do you just type whatever comes to mind or do you even *try* to sound sane?
Not really regarding Pelosi unless Biden picked her as VP, not a likely scenario.
However, if Obama and Biden both go down, then we have a problem I shudder to contemplate.
Thank you for pointing out the parallel to terrorist Pentagon bomber Bill Ayers–a parallel which so many Lefties are too young to even remember, but which Frank Rich is perfectly capable of recalling (assuming he's not yet riddled with Alzheimers–a questionable assumption, however.)
so on an article about how media conveniently ignored the fact that bedell was a democrat, YOU are gonna conveniently ignore the fact that this guy posted 2 links showing that there were truthers at tea parties?
LOL, CSM issued an "update," also known as "covering their asses": "UPDATE Saturday, March 6: As more information emerges about Mr. Bedell, the less it appears that any coherent ideology was behind his actions, except that he was deeply antigovernment." http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0305/John-Patri...
You can fortify your home in Oklahoma. But if you're committing drug felonies behind it, that's another charge. It's debatable, but it's not insane. You don't go to jail if you have a security door or other security fortifications unless you get busted cooking meth or something. Be accurate. Freedom's still legal – but it's always been something we had to fight for, and still do.
[...] are now doing the same song and dance with Pentagon shooter John Patrick Bedell. Despite the fact that he’s a registered Democrat [...]
[...] are now doing the same song and dance with Pentagon shooter John Patrick Bedell. Despite the fact that he’s a registered Democrat and [...]
[...] my inner Picard. Not to overdramatize the situation, but this feels like one of those times. Whatever others might like us to believe, the recent set of violent attacks on the government have something in common. These are not [...]
The guy was a right wing extremist just like all you jerkoffs that have commented
Liberaltarians, LiEbertarians and Libertarians are NOT Right Wingers
[...] are now doing the same song and dance with Pentagon shooter John Patrick Bedell. Despite the fact that he’s a registered Democrat and [...]
I had difficulties reading this when using my Iphone, why is that?
[...] certain—he had no illusions about surviving this. He wanted his story told. BTW, he was a registered Democrat [hardly right wing]. I own no weapons, I abhore violence, and I am not formally aligned with any [...]
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