While doing research for my upcoming book, tentatively titled Programming America (Harper Collins, due 2011), the inside story of the politically-motivated evolution of television from The Dick Van Dyke Show to Sex and the City and the very real bias of the industry against conservative content and creators, I interviewed Doug Herzog, President of MTV Networks Entertainment Group. He oversees Comedy Central, and he was kind enough to grant me some time and consent to taping our conversation on June 22, 2009.
During the course of that conversation, I asked Mr. Herzog about the network’s decision to censor South Park in April 2006 – in particular, the network shut down a segment that featured a cartoon image of Mohammed.
Here’s the audio:
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT:
SHAPIRO: I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the controversy that surrounded the South Park/Mohammed controversy. How did that come about and what was the real story there?
HERZOG: The real story was the story you know, which is that the guys wanted to depict Mohammed and the network wouldn’t let them. And that was the whole story. And while I think if we had to do it all over again we would do it differently, that was the decision we made at the time. And I regret it somewhat but I’ve made worse decisions in my life.
SHAPIRO: Why did the network make that decision in the first place?
HERZOG: You know, there was concern that it might not be the most prudent thing to do at that time, and people were kind of losing their heads over it, I think wrongly so.
SHAPIRO: Prudent commercially or prudent politically?
HERZOG: I think combination.
END TRANSCRIPT.
In other words, the heads of Comedy Central freaked over the cartoon image of Mohammed because they were worried they would offend radical Muslims, pulled it, and Herzog told me they’d do it differently next time.
Except they didn’t.
This week, Comedy Central again censored South Park – again because they were afraid that a cartoon image of Mohammed would fire up Muslim radicals. Instead of showing Mohammed or lines about Mohammed, Comedy Central bleeped all of it out. “After we delivered the show, and prior to broadcast, Comedy Central placed numerous additional audio bleeps throughout the episode,” said a message on Trey Parker and Matt Stone website. “We do not have network approval to stream our original version of the show.”
So what about Herzog’s statement that Comedy Central had changed its ways?
Yeah, not so much. The censorship and appeasement continue unabated. So much for Comedy Central’s claims as champions of free speech and speaking truth to power.






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Hey Trey and Matt…. Get Breitbart on the red phone… Maybe he will spin the original version on the big sites?
Anyone who speaks out against radical Islam pays a price. Check out this recent cartoon on what happened to Franklin Graham this week for comments he made about Islam back in 2001http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/category/politi...
The media sure goes after the Catholic Church–but that is pretty safe.
I guess killing your critics actually works to keep a censored press.
Just keep painting your pictures with words. It's what you do best.
Thanks man.
I take that as a compliment.
When did this nation get so cowardly?
That was my intention. You're welcome.
Wait — "You know, there was concern that it might not be the most prudent thing to do at that time, and people were kind of losing their heads over it . . ." People were kind of losing their heads over it. Freudian slip?
Indeed.
Oh, somewhere around 2006 when the left-wing nut-burgers took over, which ironically is the year Ben mentioned in his article when CC first censored the cartoon.
Catholic church has been getting passes for too long.
I don't like Trey and Matt getting censored.
No one ever scared them.
The Muslim extremists want us to live in fear, what better answer to their threats than us laughing at them! I prefer the smell of sulfur and the ringing of empty gun shells hitting the ground, but I'll settle for laughing at them since I'm no longer in the service.
Ridicule is the best weapon. Fear is what they want and we have just given them a heavy dose of it so thanks alot Comedy Central. Matt and Trey made a decision not to give in to fear but to expose and ridicule. More of that is needed not less. South Park has always been equal opportunity offenders and really goes after stupidity and hypocrisy but I guess the Heads at Comedy Central are more afraid than a six year old girl locked in a dark room and by that I am not trying to offend six year old girls.
HAHACENSER THE CHRISTIANS NOW ITS YOU COMEDY CHANNEL. GUESS WHOS NEXT?
When will Christians start threatening these perverts? We need a new King Arthur and a new Crusade. Off with their heads. How dare they defile Jesus. Let them know we are willing to defend Jesus to our deaths. Or is that too much for the limp-writsted "gospel of Marx" unReverend Wallis to handle?
Fools! It is our media truth-tellers who protect us from the Islamofascists by begging their forgiveness for our existence, while at the same time valiantly denigrating Americans that dare to disagree. Tell me, how could we get by without our media big brothers!!?
Right before our very eyes, we are witnessing what makes islamic fundamentalists, TERRORISTS. We have witnessed a unique example of a terrorist act that did not fire one shot, take a life, rather succeed in instilling fear. And that’s what they do best! This is another example of what terrorism, on American soil, can achieve.
It’s always been there, some saw and continue to see it, some are aware, some are starting to pay closer attention and then there are those, who unfortunately have no clue whatsoever. The latter not withstanding, that is way too many Americans who have to become deeply involved in understanding what it is that’s going on around us regarding these fanatics.
Continued…….
Our pathetic politicians with their elitist mentality only THINK they can handle these terrorists when the reality is that these terrorists could care less about their extended hand of friendship. They need politicians to get to America and they are damn close in achieving this goal. I could likely expect the trolls to fulfill me with their excentric philosophies as to why I may be wrong, but frankly, I don’t give a shit so say what you want. You’re a fool anyway in believing that it’s not happening right there in front of you. This ain’t “sky is falling” logic.
Im thinking Parker and Stone should do another Puppet movie. Maybe they could do a "Weekend at Bernies" plot but instead of trying to hide a corpes they could try and hide Mohamed from view. Hiding under beds where wild puppet love takes place. Buried in the sand while some puppet takes off her top to sun her back. Slipping him into a baptist revival picnic on the beach, laughs and general mayhem.
My greatest regret is that I have no illustrative artistic talent. If I had, there would be turban wearing, bearded, Muhammeds, riding on flying carpets, exploding on every flat surface I came across.
Why sure it does!
It works just as well with the Democratic Progressive Party.
Christians decry Islam, and yet can't seem to draw the parallels between the two religions. Both are very silly and very dangerous
That's because Christianity and Islam, indeed, pretty much any other major world religion and Islam are not parallel. They intersect. And where- or whenever they do intersect, the non-Islam faith is often left with fewer members.
The left has a bully mentality. They never go after people who can beat them up. Cowards can't handle real freedom of speech.
How about a bullet in the head of a Comedy Central exec and artist for every time they make fun of Jesus.
How's THAT for equal sensitivity, pal!
The day we stop yelling about this type of censorship, it is the day our country will truly die. Being PC is a dangerous line to step over. The only group that uses this to their advantage in the world are the Muslims. And they have used it very effectively in the European nations. This is America…we are a different breed of cat in middle America. Though I believe we have a cancerous tumor in our country with this present Administration and their love for the Muslim world and the hate for Christians and Jews…but do you hear our groups yelling out when we are satirized? Do we threaten to kill? Do we shut down freedom of speech? Hell no! We tolerate it because it is a right to do so in this country…and the minute we allow this censorship to take place, we are screwed.
I am greatly encouraged by the outrage over this issue on both the right and the left….I even actually enjoyed Jon Stewarts take on the issue. The minute we start living in fear that we will be killed (like Theo Van Gogh) we loose this battle….continue on folks! To me it would be an honor to die for such a right as free speech!
When Reagan left office.
To Ben Shapiro:
Dude, this article sucked! I mean, I was right with you all the way up to the video and the transcript, but at that point I could only understand your questions. I couldn't hear the answers with all the CHICKENS clucking in the background. And the text – $hit, it was unreadable. Looked like hen scratch.
At least you didn't interview a pussy. I am allergic to cats.
Everybody draw Muhammed day, May 20th
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/04...
Yeah, I see everywhere the Christians threatening to kill anyone who mocks Christ. Why, just yesterday, my neighbor, a Baptist, tried to stone my wife for leaving the house without her sheet covering, and for driving to WalMart for some pork chops.
Seriously, man, the moral equivalence argument is just silly. If you can't see the difference, you are either blind, lazy, or a troll.
With a small does of fortune, I would guess it would be you.
That's my hope Troll.
it is death to ridicule muhammed but take a look at the tv shows over in the middle east and in the text books of their schools. the big double standard…if you are not muslim you are crap and they look to the day when they can take over the world and "make it pure" for muslims only. why are we letting them change our country…if they dont like it here then it is simple to purchase a ticket back to their land where the milk and honey flows freely.along with the goats and the camels
The one I saw wasnt censored, thats weird. There was no bleeping, Muhammed just spoke like a little retard, he was speaking from inside a vehicle though, and was wearing a bear costume the whole time.
The moral rot in appeasing Muslim terrorism starts at the top. See what Obama says about islam at:http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#...
So right, so right… The only point you failed to bring up is that we have the thick skin of self-confidence not to care so much what others think. We know who we are. Well, at least most of the positive contributors here do.
You are so right on! I know when my special interest group is mentioned on any network any time…and it is probably daily that they say something to deride Christianity….I take it like a man and I am a woman!
Did anyone catch the scene in South Park episode 200 in which Buddha snorts coke?
How many Buddhists have threatened anyone in response to that?
Didn't ya hear……..Buddist's blew up an airplane with a thousand people onboard in protest……and then the Christians bombed a train and killed millions,,,,,,,,,,,,,and then the Mormon's nuked all of Canada…………..
And Islam just sat quietly………..
Thorien: "Did anyone catch the scene in South Park episode 200 in which Buddha snorts coke? How many Buddhists have threatened anyone in response to that?"
Well, if you're referring to the Hollywood branch of Buddhists, they were too busy getting coked up themselves.
Hey, cocaine comes from nature, right? They're just getting in touch with the circle of life and raising their awareness.
I think most people who watch South Park would make a comment similar to this: Courage is a commodity sorely lacking by Comedy Central. They certainly didn’t care if they offended Jews or Christians. Their lack of backbone is what’s offensive. Or, Comedy Central should be ashamed of itself for giving in to the threat, and every peaceful, moderate Muslim in this country ought to be out there right now denouncing this at the top of their lungs. OK, does that sound reasonable?
I DON’T THINK SO! Immediately, right this second, these cowardly people belonging to the “Revolution Muslim” group should be arrested and charged with harassment, threats of violence, intimidation, and hindering free speech. Where do these hoodlums, thugs, scalywags, goons, strong-armers, fanatics, combatants, militants, radicals, extremists, fundamentalists, militant Islamics, zealots, and pretty much a bunch of hell lovers think they’re living? They are living in America, the home of the free and the land of the brave. So Comedy Central, maybe you need to grow some “apples”? YOUR A DISGRACE to the brave soldiers who put lives on the line every day in Iraq, Afganistan, and everywhere else. YOUR A DISGRACE TO AMERICA. Not only is this a shameful act by Comedy Central, but they were intimidated by this despicable, anti-American radical behavior. I knew Jon Stewart was a Democratic Socialist Obumer supporter but I had no idea that he is so spineless that he would sell out when the going got tough. Why do the liberals/progressives abandon their principles and hide like little girly’s so easily when they get scared? I bet the rating for Comedy Central go in the toilet where are troops are watching? What I’m looking forward to, is how Comedy Central is going to be able to find comedy and satire in this cowardly act? Unbelievable
Love it, Thorien. "Hey, cocaine comes from nature, right?"
Every time someone tells me something is safe, because it's "natural," I tell them, so is arsenic.
It doesn't seem like Comedy Central has a clue as to how damaging this is to their reputation. This incident alone has permanently changed their image from young, hip rebels to that of of wimps in suits. I would have given them a pass for passing on the Mohammed clips. But their attempt to compensate by dishing up an extra dose of mocking Jesus just makes them look like a bunch of sniveling cowards.
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