Of late, the left is full of brilliant ideas on how we should fight terrorism, er whoops, I mean “man caused disasters” or do we refer to it as countering violent extremism this week? (I can’t seem to keep it straight.)
From Matthew Modine, who believes we should simply sit down and talk with terrorists to Barack Obama who hopes to defeat Islamic radicalism by not mentioning Islamic radicalism, there doesn’t seem to be any issue liberals can’t solve by simply waving a magic wand and applying their considerable genius.

Would that this dangerous method of thinking existed only in the realm of politics and Hollywood liberalism. Unfortunately, an even deadlier mindset exists at the Central Intelligence Agency.
As I have chronicled over the past several weeks, an impotent CIA, which better resembles a pack of jilted, jealous teen-aged girls has been waging a despicable proxy war against the Department of Defense for hiring former military and intelligence personnel to do the job the CIA is incapable of doing in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In the process, there have been terrible character assassinations and the leaking of classified information.
Leading the charge on behalf of the CIA is the “venerable” New York Times, which seems ever-ready to broadcast sensitive operational details to our enemies that put American lives at risk. In fact, the New York Times appears to be the “paper of record” anytime “patriots” at the Central Intelligence Agency want to leak material which is damaging to America and helpful to those bent on destroying her.
And it doesn’t stop there. If the Times needs to ratchet up the outrage, it will even fabricate information as was done on March 14, 2010 when in an article entitled, Contractors Tied to Effort to Track and Kill Militants, it claimed that “It is generally considered illegal for the military to hire contractors to act as covert spies.”
This claim was made despite the fact that the Department of Defense openly and legally solicits private firms to gather and help analyze data on its behalf. Of course, if the CIA were capable of doing its job, DOD wouldn’t need to hire outside help. But the sad fact is that the CIA is a bloated, dysfunctional bureaucracy whose usefulness to America has long since passed.

The recent attack on F.O.B. Chapman is a prime example — all the usual rules of tradecraft were violated. You meet agents on the other guy’s turf, not in your own driveway. And the Abu Omar rendition in Milan is yet another example where the CIA used lousy tradecraft and the locals, whom we thought we were screwing, instead screwed us. In fact, because of such poor tradecraft we actually screwed ourselves!
It has become an open secret in the intelligence world that the CIA has nothing to contribute to the pot other than piles of cash. It has stopped doing any serious spy work. Foreign liaison services no longer do any quid pro quo with Langley because when it comes to the CIA, there is no quid. Basically, the Agency is augmenting the budgets of other services so that they can do the work it no longer does. In return, the CIA prays the other services will share what they produce. What a brilliant strategy! (Sarcasm aside, by financing others to take risks it will not take itself, the CIA shows itself to be an agency unable to survive on its own and which is being kept alive on life support funded with tax payer dollars.)
So what has so gotten under the CIA’s skin when it comes to the Department of Defense? In short it is that the D.O.D, with a low budget and by using old-fashioned techniques, is doing what the Central Intelligence Agency claims cannot be done.

Langley asserts that you cannot run HUMINT ops against “terrorists.” In reality, it simply takes language skills, knowledge of the environment, use of principal agents, and a personality that permits you to conceal that you hate the guy you are working on – all skills that used to be widely available in the Agency’s hallowed halls. Sadly, that is no longer the case.
The CIA should be doing all it can to assist the exceptional former military and intelligence operatives the D.O.D. is so successfully employing in the Af/Pak theater. Instead, it’s like that scene in Independence Day where when the alien is asked what he wants on our planet, the response is “We want you to die!” At its core, the CIA doesn’t want the D.O.D’s reporting, they just want the D.O.D’s contractors dead (bureaucratically speaking) so that Langley can continue to claim that what those brave Defense Department contractors are doing every day isn’t possible.
Not only is it possible, but countless American lives are being saved because of it. If the CIA succeeds in pulling the rug out from under this operation, American deaths will skyrocket and the blood will be on the Agency’s hands. Already, too much about this program has been revealed. The time to put our country before Langley’s wounded pride is long overdue.
The fact is, no major military force of a serious nation state can go to war without contractor support. Even the Roman legions during republican and imperial times had mercenary forces supporting their equivalent of our modern day Army. The Romans called them “Auxiliaries” and they supplied slingers, bowmen, cavalry, siege engineers, road designers and so on.
The term, “auxiliaries” was a wise and appropriate label; one that we ourselves would do well to adopt in lieu of the pejorative, “contractor.” It is much more appropriate and considerably more uplifting. Whether used by the military or our own CIA (which, ironically enough, has been hiring “contractors” since 1980, both independently and via private firms known as “Body Shops”), the Auxiliary is a professional and necessary force multiplier. We should be embracing our Auxiliaries, not demonizing them.
Finally, rather than spreading rumors and spiteful gossip from the girls’ bathroom, the CIA should focus on rebuilding itself. If young officers were given Alexander Foote’s 1949 book, “The Handbook for Spies” to read, along with some counter surveillance training, rather than wasting four to six months in spy school at Camp Perry, we would be creating a much better cadre. (Foote was the radio operator for the Lucy network, supposedly a Soviet control apparatus in Switzerland during WWII, but some think likely controlled in whole or in part by the British MI-6.)
Most of what one needs to know about the espionage game can be found in Foote’s book. Come to think of it, maybe it should be required reading across the board at Langley, starting with CIA Director Panetta and all those in management and leadership — not to mention the friendly reporters at the New York Times – who are convinced the way to win in Afghanistan is by tearing down what works at the Department of Defense.






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unless you have the Roman Empire to build the Appian Way…
US troops will always be supplimented by civilian contractors- whether it be Haliburton- or Xe (Eric Prince's 'Blackwater' reformed). You have ATA, Wackenhut, Triple Canopy- they do the work the DoD can't, or won't do. Believe it or not, they are usually more cost effective, too.
Now we have a problem with jobbing out trigger pullers to civilian concerns. It should be a very rare occurence.
US Foreign policy needs to be enforced by a constitutionally appoved force with congressional oversight. It is not a left/right construce- but a legal one.
That said, contractors have been- and are- invaluable in achieving certain defined goals. For that they should be rewarded both financially- and politically as well…
Keep the heat on, Mr. Thor – this country cannot afford back-biting from the CIA and back-stabbing from the NY Times…
Onc of the problems we are having is that historicly, the Military had its own Intelligence folks, who had a different mission, and different rules, than the CIA. Military Folks in War zones, so the Geneva and such would be effective… CIA outside of warzones (with a ruleset which was "don't get caught").
With Nam, this started to shift to the CIA getting involved with actual military operations, and now the lines are even more blurred (with some drone missions reportedly run by the CIA).
This CIA is winning this "turf war" and getting more and more input into War fighting… which is problematic as CIA officers (unlike many foreign spy agencies) carry no military rank… thus are not part of a military chain of command… and are thus Non Uniformed Combatants under the Geneva conveniton.
Whole thing is a mess… and going to get worse as the lines continue to blur.
Playing devil's advocate for just a second….
what other intelligence agency has been repeatedly hounded, arrested, and may well be tried for activities they engaged in that were deemed LEGAL by one administration, only to be deemed RETROACTIVELY ILLEGAL by the next administration, and then prosecuted for it?
See any FBI agents on trial? How about MI agents? See any military lawyers on trial? Any ACLU lawyers on trial? Anyone in any of these, the DIA, DOD, or other "intelligence" gathering agencies even being investigated for anything they ever did or are trying to do now? I don't.
I see 1 Navy Seal who punched a terrorist in the jaw after he KILLED 4 of our soldiers, and I see the CIA being investigated, prosecuted, and persecuted over waterboarding, even though Bush and Cheney made it legal to do so.
Who can blame them if they stop trusting their orders and doing anything some numbnutz AG like Holder can latch onto years later and legally crucify them? Would YOU?
Maybe we can get the government to stop referring to Tea Partiers as right-wing, white Christian extremists, nah that would be actually be politically accurate rather than incorrect.
Brad – keep lifting the veil on this…(no pun intended)
What's up is down, and what is down is up.
What's left is right, and what's right is wrong.
Welcome to the world of Saul Alinski, it must be 1984.
Having some interest in this area, I have to agree with your conclusions.
Talk about the need to hit the reset button in the USA. Let's not stop with the CIA.
FDA
EPA
DOC
DOE
DOI
DO____________.
As tiring as this is we can't stop talking about it until we get her off the heroin.
Stop supporting Israel and we won't have those "enemies."
no shock there, Deus…
But we have Hasselhead in snit over coercive interrogations elsewhere. It's pretty funny having some lunatic
John Bircher call us 'neocons' and 'facsists' and even 'Trotskyites'.
In a different environ them's fightin' words…
Many of the previously unknown (but frequent) successes we have enjoyed, both in Iraq and Afghanistan, are the result of either private military contractors (PMCs) or hybrid organizations made up of former __________ (fill in the blank) and current active-duty forces. Having served with these groups in both theaters I can tell you that there is no "heartburn" between PMCs and active duty – they function well together. The stove-piped framework of a well-run PMC allows for the ability of the unit to act on intelligence, in a timely fashion – which brings great flexibility and real-time results. One HUMINT team I worked with in Afghanistan had former DEA members within it's ranks – fighting alongside bearded active duty MI soldiers. Brad is right – between our insistance on political correctness and our addiction to big slow-moving federal agencies…….we aren't giving our mission (and our troops) a fair chance at a successful conclusion.
As far as Dasshat is concerned, I wouldn't find him a reliable resource, even if all I needed was the time. I'd probably get a diatribe about Jews selling watches. Having experiance working outside of normal chains of command, and having ROEs that ran counter to simple common sense, I'd come to the conclusion that there was a way to serve my country without being in the military.
Reminds me of why we hire Blackwater. It was, my source tells me, staffed by ex special ops guys who either "aged" out or were disgusted by the disabling effects of the new PC environment in the armed forces. So, if you really want to do something, you quit the army and join blackwater. And if you really need something done, you avoid the army and hire Blackwater. Makes sense to me…
you bet there is…
The military taught us as much of what NOT to do as anything else. Reason why we weren't lifers…
Back under your rock anti-semite
Any experience that doesn't kill you only makes you wiser. Came damn close to being a lifer. My CO told me my talents would be better appreciated elseware. I've never looked back.
agreed…
We, too were apprised of same. Smart enough to take sage advice. Did the 'gummint' thing for a while; one of the gang still is. Can't say we liked it much, though…
I have believe that the CIA has a "leakage" problem and the NYT is the outlet of choice.
This is no different than the Wilson/Plame BS. NONE of his classified stuff should be leaking, AND the agency should FRY whoever is doing the leaking. Unless, of course, they condone and enable the leaking… And that has ramifications FAR TOO SCARY ever to type up.
These are just my opinions and suppositions, your mileage may vary…
When I first entered service, I discovered I had a certain aptitude, after finding out that I had the highest AFQT score ever recorded at Ft Campbell at the time. I quess some people are naturals, but a lifer was the last thing I wanted to be at the time. Tried it, didn't like it. Especially after being lead by people that didn't inspire confidence or respect.
DXM,
I left the peacetime service in 1986 for many of the same reasons. I saw way too many who "could never make it on the outside" being promoted simply due to time in grade and because those who "Could" left and got fabulous jobs…
I rejoined in '03 because I felt my country could use some help.
I do what I do today because I feel I can impact the success of the troops and their missions.
Part of me wishes it had been otherwise, but C'est la Vie…
Just sayin,
I'll just say this…
That Navy SEAL did NOTHING wrong.
The agency has been leaking stuff when the feel it "serves their purpose".
I do agree, that the threats of trials for CIA interrogators is totall BS from the current administration and the WORST form of revisionist History EVER in my book.
Asselhoff, didja ever consider how many crimes are perpetrated EVERY DAY against people just minding their own business? Get a clue, you pinhead.
The CIA has been and will always be a tool of the democrats. The organization is lousy with lefties, most bordering on communist. Don't believe me, just look at their history and interpolate!
What was it Norm used to say?
'Germans love dhasselhoff."
He was so close….
"Nazis love dhasselhoff!"
I was already 54 years old in '03. Pretty much set in my ways, But yeah, I was tempted to reinlist, If they'd have me, though I was doing my part in my own way. I now work in a supervisory capacity when I'm not consulting.
Tell that to Russia who just got hit again by Muslim terrorists. When did they ever support Israel. Tell it to the government of the Philippines. Tell it to India. No, Dhasselhoff, that is a myth. The Muslim terrorist don't play well with others no matter where they live. In fact, that is the entire history of Islam from its inception. My advice, stop repeating everything you hear and start thinking for yourself. You might find yourself getting embarrassed less often.
My last CO, who was a Mustang, told me of the low regard the Acadamy types had for anyone who came up through the ranks. I wasn't able to go Airborne 'cause of a B profile due to a slight heart murmur. That didn't stop them from attaching me to the 5th SF for a while. Like camping with Snakeeaters didn't count as exitement.
My "Cunning Plan" was to become a 40 year old MI branch butter bar… I actually believe I would have pulled it off too…
Other Plans were what my destiny was so I took my cap out of the OCS ring and ended up where I am now…
What we have to do is reform the CIA and force all of the political appointees who are still there OUT! Oh man let me do it….PLEASE?!???!??!!!!
Sometimes, things work out for the best. I couldn't imagine having an America hater at the top of my chain of command? Like my morale wouldn't be affected.
Or – better yet – do your 20 years in the military, retire, then join Blackwater (smile).
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Well this kind of crap is why we couldn't predict 911 in the first place. It's got to stop.
Go to hell, they'll still come after us next.
One tiny nation surrounded by thousands of sqaure miles of sick bloodthirsty Islamic Fundementalist nut jobs, for no other reason than pure stuborness we will not give up on Israel.
The ancient Roman soldier spent more time digging and building than he did fighting. I believe Caesar joked that his troops hadn't earned the right to fight their enemies until they moved a few million baskets of earth.
You do realize that your constant, idiotic harping on Israel just galvanizes support for it right?
hasselhoff. Get another bumper sticker. Ignorance is no longer an excuse
we too, had fine scores…
Mostly because everybody did their worst, from what we can reckon. Had a real good 'mustang' CO once; he almost pushed us over the edge into lifer status. But we had pretty much 'plateaued'- the legs in the service didn't like us airborne types. Scared we might slip into flag rank.
Can't have that…
Is the "Leaking," the "Agency" or the Intelligence Committee's?
[IE..Politicians moving There Agendas. TRAITORS ! ] There are "Fingerprints" if The Stomach Exsisted to Match them.
I don't believe the Agency is either Left or Right. I do believe the "Intelligence Committee's" are where you find the Teenage"Slumber Party" like Chatter. Sadly for "Political Gain !" and in MY book thats Treason. Perhaps not as Defined by "Webster" which is best for "The Teens" if you will. It has always been my thought that the "Intelligence Committee's" are to Large and should be composed of, 1 Committee of 2 people and only, 1(d) 1(r) . Smaller Compartment, Tighter Control. Hence Better Security at that Level at Least. My 2cents.
dcase, what are you talking about when you wrote, "…jobbing out trigger pullers to civilian concerns…"?
Haven't you been paying attention? That is a myth. It never happened. Civilians have been gathering information; They pass it on to the military who analyze it. Then, only if it is vetted, does it go to the targeting board for possible lethal action. Translation for Dummies, the story planted at the NYT by the CIA is a myth. It will be proven out as the investigation proceeds. Pelton will get sued. The NYTs will print a retraction in the bra section, and the CIA will have mortally wounded a highly productive and formerly covert competitor. What else will eventually come out, the links between Pelton, the NYTs, and the CIA.
just saying, you are soooo right. That is why so many CIA employees are leaving the agency to go work for DOD.
Contractors just go rogue, break the rules, and give America a bad name. They are a waste of money and harmful to America.
This guy must be paid by Blackwater.
Unfortunately I could and did imagine it.
In the run up to the election I was hoping for Hillary because McCain would have won that race…
I told my wife I was VERY worried about Oba-mao, and I prayed daily that h would at least govern by polls like Billy Clinton, but no!!!! He really was the raging marxist and closet islamist I was scared he might be.
I think the term "Cult of Personality" describes his whole operation.
dcase
I know I got a 98 on my ASVAB in HS, and in 2003 when I took the new version to re-enlist in the guard, I got a 99…
I'm trying to remember what the AFQT score is…
That's why I often refer to that POS as our dear leader.
A few years back, I contributed to an article in 'Soldeir of Fortune' with an SF buddy of mine. It was about backpack nukes. I couldn't identify myself 'cause I was still on the books.
DXM,
I spend a lot of my time developing stuff for the various "snake eater" communities. I've gotten to know a few active and retired guys from there.
I'm also a HUGE Military History buff.
I have to say they are some of the best people, salt of the Earth, I've ever met.
I always make sure I buy the beers, or most of the beers.
I'd love to "go camping" with them… Too bad I'm old and fat…
the Pointers we knew had a better handle on what worked, it seems. What they didn't care for were ROTC types. 'Shake and Bakes' (us!) OCS guys seemed an acceptable middle ground…
what we're talking about is having former SEAL's on Karzai's security detail doing diplomatic security- something they are NOT trained for- killing everyone in an assasination attempt. Not the way to win 'hearts and minds'.
That was Prince's doings. Many Blackwater cowboys in Iraq looking for $6k a month and trigger time to boot.
THAT's what we're talking about. Now, this aberration has pretty much disappeared. Good thing, too…
I was an NCO. As far as I know, the only one to serve as a convoy commander in 'Nam. I turned down OCS when they offered it to me. Like I said, didn't see the military as a career path at the time. Offered it to me again to re-up.
Hey, you could be Odeirno- or McChrystal now…
Then again, who would want to be them? Serving a bunch of Reds?
Not us…
If I was, I'd be frog-marching our dear leader out of the Whitehouse by now.
hey, what's a functioning democracy without the occasional coup, we ask? The frog walk would be a sight…
Backpack Nukes are scary. Civilians do not realize how fragile our "security" really is…
I do not want to see homicide bombings in public places Like Israel has had, or kidnappings like Mexico & Latin America has seen.
The world is not a nice place lately.
If we don't take back our country, It'll be worse than you could imagine.
Oh I know… I have ALL my tickets…
I find the threat palpable now. and I live inside the blast radius…
commies don't willingly ever give up power…
Who knows what misadventures this lot have planned…
They've been prepositioning their people for years. They've infested every area of society and government. This is it. It's for all the marbles now. They will not go quietly into the night.
hate to admit you're right…
But then again you know a little tyranny when you see it.
Soros and the banksters are bleeding what's left of our wealth away now, then they'll just crash the system and hide out until we depopulate the place for them.
Ohn they might help with that a bit, too. Still, they are heavily outnumbered, not monolithic (there are competing bad guys) and are actually panicking a bit.
YOU scare them. As do we. And there just happens to be a few of us…
us paid by Eric Prince?…
Shows what this turd knows. We have been dissing him and Blackwater for years. Rich kid, ex SEAL (yawn) who's daddy bankrolled Blackwater. Hired a bunch of cowboys and turned 'em loose. Not sporting, as they say.
Now they are Xe.
We work for one of the OTHER alphabet soup agencies…
I don't want to be right, but there are people in high places who believe in ridding the world of suplus population now and again.
check out John Holdren the so-called 'science czar'-
a classic Malthusian eugenicist. David Rockefeller
(another piece of work) greeted him on the Senate floor with "you surely walk on water' (!!) for his work.
Which is more Mengele than Dr Spock…
without giving anything away…
We willnot divulge WHO we work for. But Triple Canopy is good, Wackenhut, ATA run clean shops.
Xe rolled the bones a little too much for our tastes- and are, well, sloppy. Diplomatic Security is challenging work that calls for nuance and discipline. And the $$ is starting to decline- rapidly- so he'd
better strike quick…
The NY Times asked the entire world to keep quite during their efforts to secure the release of their reporter, who were contractors by the way, while he was held in captivity by the Taliban. Now they have no problem telling the enemies of America what efforts are underway to help protect American soldiers. They have clearly defined themselves as Rag-tabloid journalism. A story needs to be done on their reporters to see who they are really working for.
Didn't one of the Rockefeller patriarchs have a wet nurse? Must have thought she was the fountain of youth.
youdid him right- a lot of 'roided up towell snappers…
What was amazing was how undisciplined some of the ones we worked with were. And addicted to creature comforts, too- a little time in the bush made 'em crazy; we had to fire more than one. Point is, recent former military- particularly line infantry- wasn't a good fit for the sophistication of handling third world egos and making sure your employers weren't embarrassed. Now we look for FBI types who have military experience from years ago.
Better suited for this type of work…
ho!
Nelson died in the arms of his prostitute girlfriend. David is a real NWO type- like Soros- a classic slimy Bond villain. Wants to rule the world, blah blah… and they are all in this together. Evil dudes, all…
dcase,
Sorry, I was not trying to pry or get you to reveal personal info. I do appreciate the feedback on the others, I recently heard of Triple Canopy…
My Brother works for Dyncorp….
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Thanks for the feedback, was not trying to get you to reveal Personal Data, sorry…
I will pass this along…
it's not you, bud…
It's the enemy out there. And they read our stuff…
BTW, one of the guys killed at FOB Chapman was a HS classmate of mine… Dane Paresi.
Retired Army SF enlisted working as a contractor…
He was a good guy, I wish I'd known him better now…
sorry to hear that…
tough work, and dangerous too. God bless him…
Yup.
He was a MUCH better guy in the end than any of us were back in HS…
I choose to believe God did bless him, and God needed his "skills" up there more than we did down here.
DM,
You are right on target with the leakage issue however, they don't see that as a problem. They use it in an attempt to derail other efforts that are far better than what they produce. And no doubt about it, the reporter Mazatti is their mouth piece. Really pathetic reporter who will have blood on his hands when the next soldier gets killed because his commander didn't have the information that is available to keep him alive.
What would happen if American citizens started publishing information about where the reporters are located in-country, where they are sleeping, where they are traveling to, who they are meeting with, etc. American citizens just exercising their First amendment rights as well?
Do you really think our dear leader would settle as a one termer? I would put nothing past him, after what I've seen.
You must be paid by George Soros.
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dcase,
On a serious note here, My lil brother is a contractor in A-stan on his 2nd tour teaching ANP how to be cops (he was a small town cop, and former Navy).
Xe tried to recruit him, and I warned him they might not be great… But this is not my pond and I don't really know all the fish. Who else is bad, who is decent or even good?
He had a shot at some gig aboard ships as security against pirates but I don;t know what or who that was with…
Got any advise I can pass on to him? He's a good egg…
A while back, I talked a friend out of working for Blackwater. Instead, recomended an outfit in England that specialised in secutity gigs on yachts in the Med.
JTF,
I've heard in other places that the CIA is stuffed full of lefties. Based on their actions under W I would believe that.
My opinion is the same as yours, they are ALLOWING the leakage because it serves their agenda.
That is wrong.
I would not support a group of citizens publishing reporters locations, but I see no reason why it is not "legal" under the first amendment. But I feel it would be wrong, and reporters might get killed.
I wouldn't agree with publishing reporters location but I do beleive it's the same at them publishing what our country does to protect itself.
I wouldn't agree with publishing reporters location but I do beleive it's the same at them publishing what our country does to protect itself.
The NYT will get American's killed if they publish this…
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