As a filmmaker I have always entrusted the lens of a camera to illuminate both the stuff of my imagination and that of this world that otherwise would not be visible. This summer, I was tasked by Move America Forward – the largest pro-troop 501(c)3 in the country, which hosted the recent Troopathon that raised $541,711 for care packages for the troops – to travel to Iraq and capture a glimpse of the situation that may have ended up on the cutting room floors of the mainstream media.
My traveling companions were Matt Sanchez, a Move America Forward volunteer and producer of Fox News’ The Strategy Room; Mary Pearson, photographer; and Debbie Lee, the founder of America’s Mighty Warriors, a Gold Star mom whose son, Marc Allen Lee, was the first Navy-SEAL killed in Iraq during a fight in Ramadi on August 2, 2006.

In his last letter home, Marc had written:
What I do over here is only a small percent of what keeps our country great. I think the truth to our greatness is each other. Purity, morals and kindness, passed down to each generation through example. So to all my family and friends, do me a favor and pass on the kindness, the love, the precious gift of human life to each other so that when your children come into contact with a great conflict that we are now faced with here in Iraq, that they are people of humanity, of pure motives, of compassion.
What I was to find on this trip was that despite the mainstream media’s frantic pursuit to staple Abu Ghraib in our minds as an emblem of the U.S. presence in Iraq, by the end of my travels I was unmistakably and undeliberately convinced that Marc Allen Lee is the true embodiment of not only the U.S. military, but the American character itself.
Our itinerary included visits in Kuwait, Baghdad and Kirkuk with soldiers, Marines and airmen – both American and Iraqi. Among the four of Saddam’s palaces I visited was one which Saddam had named “Victory Over America” – a name slightly inconvenienced by the demolished side wing that sunk into a massive mound of dirt and rubble. (Whoops! Did we do that?)
Adjacent the palace was a two-story lake house in which Saddam was known to have housed his virgins. After he was done raping them, he would behead, drown, or throw them off the balcony. The balcony rail was marked by a finite succession of hearts – each symbolizing one of these unwitting lovers. As I gazed up at it, I could not help but consider the fact that had those who fiercely filibustered the war gotten their way, at least several more of those hearts would be adorning that rail.
Socrates said that “no man knowingly does evil.” But even the most nightmarish monsters of the world wrestle with some inconvenient notion – and with it some means of putting it to rest. This is why Saddam – who believed God could not see over water – encompassed these buildings with a lake. But the airborne demolition of that side wing of his palace may have been a subtle reminder that perhaps God does, indeed, have aerial vision.
As much as Saddam intended to hide his shame with that lake, not even his means of filling it were exempt from shame. Saddam had gone right ahead and cut off the water supply to the Shi’a in southern Iraq to fill his precious lake. (You know, kind of like what congressional Democrats did to our farmers in central California.)
Diversity — with respect to age, race, gender, religion, nationality and rank – we found. Where we didn’t find diversity was in the collective mood – optimism and pride in Operation Iraqi Freedom. The boyish excitement of Brigadier General Scott Hansen over his trainees – the Iraqi Air Force – resembled that of an older brother who had successfully mentored his younger sibling to be an all-star home-run hitter. The chemistry and camaraderie between U.S. and Iraqi forces suffered no cold distance, no awkwardness, no air of discomfort.
These observations incited both excitement and anger. I knew this was history in the making, and I knew the mainstream media had decided that the American public would miss out on it.

The left-driven press has fought its own campaign to incite strife by dividing our country up by race, class, religion and political persuasion. Of course it would want to divide up the world in the same image.
Having determined before the first U.S. boots hit the ground that this would not be a successful operation, the media began conceding defeat on behalf of our nation almost instantly. Over seven years, neither the capture of Saddam, the purple ink-stained fingers of the new Iraqi democrats, the success of the surge, nor what we found in just ten days would dare disrupt their predetermined narrative. Such images of success were not among their storyboards.

This is almost the equivalent of V-E day ending up on page 18C of The New York Times. Not only has the mainstream media let us down, they have taken something from us. They have taken from us the opportunity to take pride in our nation during one of her finest hours.
We know that in our own history, every trend of tyranny or terror was most effectively bulldozed by the expansions of freedom. The fact that the KKK has been reduced to a fringe cult standing against the loser wall of the proverbial dance hall is less because of Lyndon Johnson’s executive orders and more because in a free society such a pathetic band of outsiders would suffer the same fate as as a Denver Broncos pep rally in downtown Oakland. Terror can’t breathe in a free society. It chokes and suffocates in America and is panting a lot harder now in Iraq.
The fact that the cold, bitter left would rather continue grinding their teeth and clenching onto their pathological hatred for George W. Bush than take pride in what our country has accomplished this time through our unstoppable warriors is as sad as it is shameful. That we have shared our unique gift of freedom with a new nation may be easily dismissable as a rhetorical sound bite, but is a living reality worth serious contemplation.
On our final day in country, when my cameras were off and it was just myself and Debbie speaking with Lt. Colonel Kyle Voigt off-the-record about our families, memories, and other matters of the heart, the colonel moved in close and whispered the following with the discreet, quiet dignity of a shared secret that could not otherwise be understood by the world but only among close confidents:
We have done something very special here – something that no other civilization has done in the history of the world. We have freed a country, without asking anything in return except friendship.
As I subsequently returned to my CHU to pack up my luggage, I reflected on the friends I had made amongst the Iraqi Air Force, the handshakes that somehow felt like massive group hugs between two populations than mere hand-to-hand contacts. I thought about this experiment we Americans took a chance on 235 years ago and the expanding laboratory that these people had just been openly invited into.
I thought of the fact that just eight years ago, encounters under such circumstances would have been laughably fantastical.






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I don't know what you did find, but I know what you DIDN'T find……WMD!!!! LOL!!!!
Tar Heels …Marc Allen Lee gave his life so people like you could make the choice to be a Patriot or a Leftist loser.. From your comment I see what choice you've made…
Heel, you ARE the weakest link. Goodbye.
I worked with the Navy Seals and they are purposely selected to be the most understated, selfless, and disciplined people you would ever meet. Needless to say the vast majority of them are not liberals.
If every American was like them this country would have no national debt, no social problems, we would not ration health care, and there would be no crime and no need for prisons.
That's the kind of utopia that liberals hate for some reason.
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Left to their own devices, those weakest in society, those on the left, will ALWAYS make the wrong choice. It is a statistical, mathematical given.
Tar Heels77 stayed home with his Mama and protested while brave men and women are protecting this country. And now the drifter is just a plain everyday idiot. Does the NY Times rule your day, as it is evident that you get your news from them. I don't know about you, but I never heard Bill Clinton and John F Kerry give speeches about WMD and regime change in Iraq. If the media can lie about this, as they did, how many other suckers are there like you who believe them ? And by the way, Clint Eastwood, of High Plains Drifter fame is a real American. Foolish little boy.
You only "know" that because you don't actually know anything about WMDs and how they're made. Or the parameters of the sanctions against Hussein. You don't know anything about what you claim you "know". It's sad, really.
Mr Hartsock, You Sir are a gifted writer and I must take this opportunity to thank you for all this information
you were so gracious to provide. Marc Allen Lee's letter gave me goose-bumps and brought tears to my
eyes, give his mom a hug from me.
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Yeah, he was totally innocent. You can't trust evil, right-wing news organizations like MSNBC or The AP:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/
Sounds to me like TarHeel made the choice to not even read the article.
If he did I'm sure he thinks Marc Lee was a fool to join the armed forces, never realizing, of course, that Marc made the unselfish choice to gave up something he could not keep, for something he could not lose…
And most of us, here, really appreciate him and his family for that choice…..
Thanks for your sacrifice.
I guess the 500 metric tons of yellow cake found in Iraq was gonna be used to make an Iraqi version of the twinkee?
But of course, they went to Syria. I have an idea. You would like to be precise wouldn't you? Accurate, succinct and pitch perfect?
Wouldn't you?
Why don't you change your name to non-sequitur? That way you could describe yourself with pin-point accuracy.
Needless to say the vast majority of them are not liberals.
Funny how that works out, huh? Strangely enough, I found very few in the Marine Corps also. I should do a thesis paper on that subject, but most any leather upholstered academic jackwagon would fail me simply due to subject matter. Probably wouldn't read past the introduction.
Now, the Army……….
just sayin'
As it is with everything in life, it is what's in a persons heart that makes them who they are, not what is thrust upon them by rulers or despots. The MSM, progressives and the ruling class in DC may be controlling the message, but they are NOT controlling the hearts of Americans.
As word gets out and understanding of the self-serving and ideological sewer that is the place we call Washington DC grows, freedom loving Americans from all walks of life will vote their conscience in a quiet and determined way. It is what is inside us that makes us both free and dangerous.
We are Americans. Those within our borders or in our government who are not supporters of the Constitution should understand that they have awakened a power stronger than any leftist tyrant or would be dictator in the world.
In the United States or anywhere else, Liberty is a right given by God, not men, and freedom minded Americans know that.
Saddam learned the hard way that justice prevails and so will Washington come November. Whether in a peaceful election or wielding a sword, America and Americans will not be held down.
This story illustrates that beautifully. Thank you for the eloquent reminder of American compassion and concern for the oppressed, wherever they are, or whoever they may be.
FREEEEDOM!
Oh look what I just found, a pile of crap on the thread. Watch your step, people.
We need a better class of troll, here.
Two years ago, the WMD issue was going to put Bush, Cheney and half the Republican party in prison. Today, it's message board troll fodder. I'll take that for progress.
Hey, three squares of Domino's a day, a basement over his head with mom provided regulation Che T-shirts and he figured why should I venture out into the light, huh? To be fair, I'm sure the little darling goes to the mailbox, at least. Gotta sign the Welfare check for mommy to deposit, else he'd run out of Cheetos.
Sir, very eloquently said.
Thank you.
To the author: I personally lived in Iran for 2 years and I can relate to much of what you have written. I can take a modicum of satisfaction in what you found and chose to share. In this era of so much disinformation its tough to know who or what to believe. There will always be nutjobs out there — and there will always be good people. Im always hoping the "good" will prevail—Im glad you had some first hand experience before writing about it! Thank you sir.
What's your point Tar Ball? You would rather have Saddam in power so he can continue to rape and kill virgins. My, aren't you the compassionate one.
Ha Ha true enough! Liberal are takers, not givers. Marines will give all, that's who they are.
It's shocking to realize that up to 90% of prison inmates identify with the democrat party. That's why democrats are furiously trying to get them the right to vote. Democrats say they have the answers but they are the problem.
OWNED!
Funny how the critics of the Iraq war are now silent. If I were a cynical man I would say that their opposition was purely for the purposes of gaining personal political power at the cost of American lives and American national security, thus making them traitors of the blackest kind.
Of course that would only be true if I were that cynical as we all saw Cindy Sheehan's protest at Barack's house and vacation destinations all summer just like she did when Bush was president. And we see the continued tirade of the CBS 60 Minutes show segments on the criminal nature of the war even as Barack has become president and we see the daily protests organized and funded by George Soros, ACORN and SEIU continue even through the Obama presidency and of course all of those politicians in Congress who so vocally opposed the war continue with their very vocal opposition. Though I must confess that I haven't seen as much of Congressman Levin, Senator Leahy, Congressman Kucinich, Congresswoman Lee, Senator Schumer and the Congressional Black Caucus as I used to see. It's not that they were exploiting our national security for the political advantage of their party at all. It's just that the media won't cover liberal issues any more because of…????
Good comment, gwar5
I have always admired the SEAL's and the Navy program that turns out such men.
So very few make into that exclusive club, for good reason. Think about the type of man that does make it.
He is a rare combination of the best 3 letter athlete and the smartest book worm in your HS class, that also possesses high moral values, perseverance, and really loves living in water.
I don't know about your HS class but there was no ONE person that had all those traits in my class.
When thought of in these terms, you can appreciate how really special and rare these guys are.
We are all indebted to all our great service people, especially the Special Forces operators, particularly the SEAL's..
Yes we did. Bush did not want to tell people how to turn insecticide into nerve gas. (Cyclo-sarin and morter shells in a bunker.)
Im down with that!!!!!!! ^5 I never considered that angle–Two heads truly are better than 1
Hey, when I was in the army we were too busy fighting to keep our body parts intact to worry about liberalism. Which reminds me. All the guys I knew were conservatives. We believed in the Constitution and our oaths. Even the guys drafted did a superb job.
That's because he visited Iraq, not Syria.
LOL!
But that would be rather cynical of us and there would be those on the left who would say we were guilty of "group think" or were being racist or being overly simplistic.
I woudn't be me if I didn't tweak the Army. I have to. My Drill Instructor told me if I didn't, I would have to do bends and thrusts til I puked. I puked anyway.
Semper Fi, my man…..you've been there, you've done that.
Go easy.
It's not profound but what can say, I cried at the purple fingers. Anyone who belives that people do not want liberty and freedom is in denial or chained to an ideology that America has not in the past took a stand to defend.
I feel that President Bush too stood for this and though I disagree with other parts of his administration, I stand with him absolutely on democracy and freedom for all peoples. It does not have to look exactly like ours, but they have the right to craft it.
That's the best you can do? Really? Time to add another listing to the Il volume di troll fallito
Saddam, my name is tarheels, please take my virgin daughter, do as you will, but please, please, i beg you, don't harm me !!!!Waaaaaaaa, sniffle, sniffle…..
from wiki
Tar Heel (or Tarheel) is a nickname applied to the state and inhabitants of North Carolina. "Tar Heel" is also the nickname of the University of North Carolina athletic teams, students, alumni, and fans.
The exact etymology of the nickname is unknown, but most experts believe its roots come from the fact that tar, pitch and turpentine created from the vast pine forests were one of North Carolina's most important exports early in the state's history.[1]
Because the exact history of the term is unknown, many legends have developed to explain it. Many believe it to be a nickname given during the U.S. Civil War, because of the state's importance on the Confederate side, and the fact that the troops "stuck to their ranks like they had tar on their heels".[2]
Bush and the rest of the incompetents in his administration claimed there were STOCKPILES of WMD, and that there was an imminent threat (mushroom clouds everyone?). There were no WMD. I do remember the "Mission Accomplished" stunt. That was the most pathetic stunt any American President has ever pulled. Even Nixon would have had more class than to dress up and pretend to be a naval aviator in the retard version of Top Gun.
There were no WMD to go to Syria. That is a right-wing canard. There is NO evidence of WMD going to Syria. Wingnuts tell themselves that in order to deny the facts that no WMD were found and that Bush LIED!!!
So did I, Kirk, so did I.
And I hope they can keep it with the same fervor I hope that we can keep America.
Like a mother watching her first born child board the bus for the first day of school…
I pray and wish them well.
I would rather the over 3000 young, healthy men and women still be alive to enjoy a long life like the Vietnam avoiders (Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Limbaugh, etc). I would rather have seen more success in Afghanistan rather than all the troops and resources diverted to an unnecessary war based on lies. I would rather we had spent the money that we wasted in Iraq on something actually worthy. (Remember you guys are SO concerned with deficits right, LOL!!!)
Wrong! Bush was FORCED to admit no WMD even though he didn't want to admit the truth. Even a moron like him can admit the truth when he has to. You teabaggers STILL can't acknowledge reality. You live in a delusional world.
Show us the proof! Let me educate you a bit. Obama WAS born in the United States and IS a citizen. There were NO WMD in Iraq. Obama won the election fair and square. There was no giant ACORN conspiracy that gave him the election. He won in an electoral landslide (over 100 more electoral votes than McCain and The Airhead.) Take off your tinfoil hat.
I did 8 years in the Marine Corps there teabaggin punk, so its SSgt foolish little boy to you.
yo the people with your negative remarks about this piece, fungu. what he found is a brave nation of people that for decades have been tortured , murdered and imprisoned in there own country . with the help of our brave men and women of the U S miltary they are seeing a reality that many only dreamed of , ITS CALLED FREEDOM! ! so to all you cry baby libs crawl back in your holes and continue to ride on the coat tales of the brave men and women of our great nation……..GOD BLESS AMERICA
No LCpl Shirtbird, this SSgt did 8 years of honorable service and now works for the Federal Government doing the same thing I did in the Corps (except for a helluva lot more money). I made the most of my time in the Marines, and now I have a lot to show for it. Why don't you wait till the CLP dries before you question me, Boot!
Who is silent? There were no WMD, and Iraq was a huge mistake!
this is exactly what I've thought all along … I knew liberating Iraq was a good idea, I just knew it! I wish we got purple fingers when we vote … our guys are the best – and they always will be!!
So what? We were one of many countries that thought he did have them. Also, there were a ton of countries like France that were buying oil from him in exchange for bypassing the sanctions, as well as the head of the UN at the time Kofi Annan's son. So we accidentlly set a country free based on bad intel from a dozen countries.
Wow, here is an interesting article with links to declasified reports.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.htm...
I've lived in the Middle East for the past 8½ years (including a stint in Kuwait during the liberation of Iraq). I get my news on the pulse of Iraq from my barber, whose family still lives there. A few comments from him are: people are happy; the economy is growing; safety is no longer a concern; and the small shop that he and his brother bought there is doing well. The most telling comment though, is that he says he quit listening to the news reports! They simply don't reflect what is the reality on the ground.
All you know is what talking points to squawk like a good little parrot.
and that there was an imminent threat
"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?" -Bush, 2003 SOTU speech.
Oops. Guess some of your talking points you were told to squawk aren't quite as accurate as you blindly believed. Oh, IIRC the "mushroom clouds" bit was something Condi Rice mentioned as more something that would happen years down the road if we kept dithering.
Of course, you're not interested in any discussion, just constant repetition of your claims in the hope that it builds a meme in people's minds and they believe the lies your masters tell you to spread.
The lying parrot twit won't read it due to the source.
He's not interested in a debate, just squawking the same talking points over and over and over until it drowns out everything, hoping people will see it's droppings and never any counter-points. It's how they managed to get the "no WMDs" meme built in the public's mind. Very tiring, and a disgusting amount of chutzpah: how they screech that Bush lied when nearly all of their claims are complete fabrications in themselves.
He said critics, not mindless parrots like you.
But they did find a WMD.
You know this, but choose to leave you head buried someplace dark and warm.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article...
Yes, they did find a WMD, you make this way to easy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article...
Rahm is that you?
Are you just mad because you haven't gotten enough shower time in over at the capital building? Your finger must really be itching….
Ah, the empty words of bravado.
How predictable.
Um, what?
Tar Ball you are truly both clueless and classless, just like this administration
Maybe you should serve your country instead of just running your mouth on a blog.
I served! Did you? I highly doubt it. And nobody died in Iraq for MY freedom. My freedom was never in jeopardy from a country that was NOT a threat and had NO WMD!
This country was NOT protected from Iraq. Iraq was NEVER a threat to us.
There is a BIG difference between lying and being wrong…Think about that in terms of "W". I never liked the pretense of WMD's, anyway. Too much chance to get egg on one's face
It was really more about the free flow of oil, a foothold in a strategic area against a bellicose Iran, and of course support for the "criminal state of Israel"…I'm sure you think that, all libtards do…
I think I hear Ariana calling you….the HuffPo is missing a major drone…
No foul. My uncle was a Marine during WWII(4th Marines) He gave his all at the age of 19 on Tainan. Two others were in the Army in Europe. BTW, you guys rock.
Heels
You see this? Very weird…From MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/
"Polly wanna cracker?"
Really, is one of the most advanced planes Russia uses a weapon of mass destruction? http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/45376...
So would I. 3,000 men and women alive would be wonderful.
But Clinton only wanted to treat terrorism as a law enforcement issue.
So, the towers were taken out. Are you happy now?
Be careful with that cracker. You just never know where he's been.
Of course. You claim to have served while spewing hatred for our country and denying the facts on the ground overseas.
I claim to speak for my brother, and nephew that are currently serving.
I have a life, I don't need to post here for my own ego. I don't enjoy washing my hands and keyboard after dealing with feces like you. I don't like infecting my mind with your talking points. You are so low, so destructive in your intents (you just dont' have a clue how to be effective) that I despise you and your handlers, and those who guide your talking points.
But for my grandfathers that served, my father who served, by brother and my brothers son who serve I find the time and speak as they would if they weren't busy protecting your sorry lying backside.
Don't expect any quarter on my front. I know who you are, and what you would have for us.
They viewed us as the great satan.
They viewed us as infidels.
And we never did get back the pilot shot down in desert storm. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/...
You must have been relieved when the Stolen Valor Act was overturned.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
–President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
–President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
–Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
–Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
– Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
Yeah, Bush was really stupid when he believed all those claims by the Democrats and the Democrat appointed head of the CIA and all the intell agencies of all our allies (except the ones being paid off for the "Oil for Food" fraud).
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
– Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
– Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
– Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
– Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…"
– Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
– Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
– Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
– Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
– Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
– Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real…"
– Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
Now I know you are a fake Marine. You'd know exactly why Bush did not go to Nam, in spite of volunteering.
Tell that to Kerry, Pelosi, Kennedy, Clinton (both), Gore, and the dozens of other Democrats that were screaming about the need to invade Iraq because of Sadam's weapons of mass destruction. News flash TarVeal, this was all originally a Democrat idea. They were pushing it like crazy when Clinton was in Office.
From the Washington Times: Chief Weapons Inspector Charles Duelfer, head of the Iraq Survey Group speculates that WMDs were moved to Syria, fueled by the fact that satellite images picked up long lines of trucks waiting to cross the border into Syria before the coalition launched the invasion, and that Syria was a major conduit for materials entering Iraq that were banned by the United Nations. Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong, deputy commander of U.S. Central Command during the war indicated in his book "Inside CentCom, that intelligence reports pointed to WMD movement into Syria. In October, John A. Shaw, then the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told The Times that Russian special forces and intelligence troops worked with Saddam's intelligence service to move weapons and material to Syria, Lebanon and possibly Iran. "The organized effort was done in advance of the conflict," he said.
He still believes the Dan Rather report, obviously.
He must have a cutting edge fax machine for that kind of thing.
He was hoping.
The Main Stream Media–Tories, one and all.
He's certainly never seen anything official written by someone in the military if he believes that piece of garbage was real.
Give it to the parrot.
Riiight, except that he was given months of warning time to move anything incriminating our of the country. The UN stalled as they continue to do, aside from them being rapists and murderers.
Crown Loyalist
I have not spewed any hatred for our country. Bush is not our country. Criticizing his administration is not criticizing our country, unless of course, YOU are criticizing our country when you criticize the Obama administration! You can't have it both ways Roger. If I'm "anti-American" for critcizing one Presidential administration, then by default, you are anti-American when you criticize another administration. I don't care how many people in your family served. That means that THEY, and not YOU, served. I, however, unlike you, did serve, so I don't need your pathetic attempt to lecture me on service.
It doesn't matter how they viewed us because they did NOT have the capacity to threaten us. When Mike Tyson was ruling the boxing world, it didn't matter how many of his opponents hated him because they couldn't defeat him. Spinks could have hated Tyson with all his guts, but it didn't matter because Tyson was better than him.
I didn't really care. I wouldn't claim any medals that I didn't earn. I only earned a few, and they were not anything major.
It is common knowledge that Iraq didn't have WMD. Only wingnuts like yourself still try to claim that they did have them. Even Bush admitted that there were none. All mainstream Republicans have admitted it.
Saddam had a history of giving money to the next of kin of suicide bombers who hit Israel (supporting terrorist acts). He allowed terrorist groups to set up camps in Iraq (had contacts with criminal groups who commit terrorism).
Yes, he did have the capacity to threaten us. (No, I am not saying he was involved with 9-11.)
You claim to be a Marine. I think you are a liar. You have claimed things that /nobody/ with military experience would think for a minute. (Most obviously, the Bush dodging Viet Nam claim.)
Bush did NOT volunteer for Vietnam, and you know it. The Texas National Guard was for those that wanted to avoid service in Vietnam. Cheney just got 5 deferments, I repeat, FIVE DEFERMENTS!
In his National Guard documents, he checked the box that indicated he was NOT volunteering to go to Vietnam.
Last I checked the name of our country was not Israel. Saddam did not support terrorist actions against the US and was NOT a threat.
Why would I care if a teabagging loser thinks I am lying? As someone with military experience, I don't respect people like Bush and Cheney that avoided the wars of their generation but have no problem sending others to die in their senseless war of choice. If W truly wanted to serve in Vietnam, he would not have joined the Texas ANG. He would have joined the Active Duty in one the service branches.
I am a staunch conservative (and of course, a fan of Mr. Hartsock
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I am disappointed, however, at the comments posted in this thread.
The WMD issue is a very…
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I was not aware of him checking the box. (I probably checked it myself. Don't remember.)
The Texas National Guard unit he belonged to was sent to Viet Nam, as you would know if you paid attention. He volunteered /then/, and was turned down as he did not have enough flight time. He started grabbing all the flight time he could get, including some silly runs (mentioned by his online enemies who did not realize the implications of him making those silly runs). Before he got enough hours, Nam was winding down.
It was during the wind down that all those things happened that the leftoids got excited about, and, if you were really a Marine, you would be well aware of how messed up things get when there is a major change from "Gung-Ho" to "Ho-hum".
Exactly what does Cheney have to do with anything, anyhow? Again, an out-of-charactor move for a Marine.
(I got two college deferments, then they changed the rules and I scored "45", and joined the Navy.)
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