The New York Times’ leading in-house global warming obsessive, Thomas Friedman, has quite a column today. It is more a tantrum, really, as so many of his offerings have verged on being of late, if one that I find, even for him, remarkably detached. Maybe it’s that possible conflict of interest — I’m not talking about the 7.5 bathroom Bethesda mansion with no visible signs of windmills marring the vista of Mr. “I am a clean-energy hawk. Green for me is not just about recycling garbage but about renewing America”…it’s just about other people having to look at the eyesores — but somehow he can’t even remember his own hobbyhorses when offering the world one another iteration of what is increasingly his only note. Let’s start there, with his favorite subject, “global warming.”

Today, in telling us how to turn the tide swamping his and other soft-ish totalitarians’ favored agenda, Tom says:
Here are the points I like to stress: 1) Avoid the term ‘global warming.’ I prefer the term ‘global weirding,’ because that is what actually happens as global temperatures rise and the climate changes.
While he has already been called out elsewhere for being a little repetitive on this, allow me to say…Of course, you do, dear.
Certainly now, in the face of yet another cold and confounding winter in the Mid-Atlantic, home to the world’s most important weather — as we have seen throughout the “global warming” drama rain and snow on the DC-NY axis is, like storms in the Atlantic Basin, far more important and — until now — indicative of global conditions even though they are no such thing. Except for really self-important political and New York Times types.
Now, about this preference-slash-complaint, ahem but, “global warming” alarmist, heal thyself. Seriously. Tom, stop saying “global warming”. Sheesh. Only a dolt would dwell on that. And about that opening mewl:
Of the festivals of nonsense that periodically overtake American politics, surely the silliest is the argument that because Washington is having a particularly snowy winter it proves that climate change is a hoax and, therefore, we need not bother with all this girly-man stuff like renewable energy, solar panels and carbon taxes.
Yes. Hmm. Well, we already know how much Friedman really wants to bother about windmills and solar panels. But his point here is to express righteous indignation over those who disagree with him pointing with amusement to weather that, well, undermines his movement which, after all, made its bones telling us how one year’s melt or a specific weather event made their case. He, however, would never stoop so low. Friedman would never invoke weather events as somehow able to prove his faith — even, say, wondering aloud about but of course not pining for “’a perfect storm’ — a storm big enough to finally end the global warming debate but not so big that it ended the world” — or even just pointing to mere temperatures (so as to save time and space allow me to just point to his book, Hot, Flat and Crowded… warming means warming, except when it doesn’t, you see).

So, let’s just translate that one as “I’m working this corner.” Read the whole thing, however, as something of an exercise in not losing overly well.






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They can run, but they can't hide.
We're taking the battle, the common sense battle, right to 'em.
Climate change is a hoax because the so called scientists wrote emails saying it was a hoax!
When will the idiot liberals understand that when you want to anger a conservative lie to them!
When you want to anger a liberal, tell them the truth!
bullshit
This will not end well. Already the administration is in the mood of using executive powers to force "Green Policies" down our collective throats. Big Government types will cling to thier beliefs no matter the evidence to the contrary. We must not allow Government to intrude further but unless the Supreme Court reverses its' decision on Carbon Dioxide as a Dangerous Substance the EPA will ruin it for all of us.
Haven't these Germans seen the light yet? I thought Germans were smart. I was wrong. Friedman is as stupid as Rahm Auerbach. All these Germans coming to America for what? Are they really National Socialists? Hmm hmm hmm.
They all are following Goebbel's dictum of making a lie big enough and telling it long enough that the public will believe it.
Well, it worked in Deutschland, but it doesn't work here. Send these Germans home where they belong.
The glare from all of the solar panels on Mr. Global Weirding's house are blinding. Hypocrite.
Two words that could have ended the man-made global warming hoax long ago: Ice Ages
Millions of jobs have been lost because of TF and his ilk pushing fraud on the American public. We need to keep the pressure on these environmental wackos and run them out of the country.
You know the SEIU people aren't buying–they know these charlatans better than any of us.
Friedman knows snow covered solar panels don't work. What kind of leftist weirdo psych job is he pulling? Next he'll say CO2 warms and cools different areas at the same time….wait, WAIT! HE DID SAY THAT! In different parts of the world. Really Tom? I didn't know that. Yesterday, when I was a Walmart, it was 80 degrees, but in the shade whence I came home an hour later in the evening, it was 65 degrees, was that Climate Change? Or…was it Clownin' Change? Never saw anyone blowing so much sunshine and snow in my face at the same time. Snowjob in the sun, what will Tom think of next?
More bad news for ol' Tommy boy here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/the_agw_sm...
He has gone beyond being misinformed and is now just willfully lying about AGW.
From the size of his house and property, the least Friedman can do is hire Phil Jones as his cabana boy and Michael Mann as the landscaper. Those two will be needing jobs soon.
No one wrote emails saying it was a hoax. Please link to these emails.
There's a good debunking of the idea that the IPCC has been discredited here, for anyone with a genuine interest in this subject : http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/201...
If it's hot, it's Global Warming. If it's cold, it's Global Warming. If it's dry, it's Global Warming. If it's wet, it's Global Warming. Hurricanes? Global Warming. No hurricanes? Global Warming. Earthquakes? The Earth is punishing us for not fixing Global Warming (see Danny Glover).
Somebody explain to Mr. Friedman (and Rachel Maddow and others) that it didn't just snow in Washington. It snowed in Texas, and Florida. It snowed in record amounts in several places including the typically snowbound Chicago. Lake Erie froze over. There have been record cold spells and record snowfalls throughout the country for an extended period of time — all of which followed a remarkably (and remarked upon) cool summer. At some point, all of these weather events become climate. But one bad hurricane or one wildfire, and it's irrefutable proof of a "consensus' that is beyond debate.
Eric Allie has a great cartoon. In a scene reminiscent of an Agatha Christie novel, a man is lying on the floor with a knife in his chest. The smug man standing over him says, "The Global Warming did it."
Did you hear something Trasero?
I thought a proggie came running by for a sec….
I hope that house has a lotta bathrooms 'cause that guy is full of it.
The global warmies need an outright de-programming. The brainwashing they've had is as thorough as any whack job cult inflicts on the gullible.
change the subject , because you can't answer. typical conservative.
every summer the AGW media shills cite hot days as anecdotal evidence of global warming. the predictable headlines roll out in late summer, every july and august: "hottest day on record" "hottest day ever" "hottest day in history" etc.
if you see the headline "hottest day in 64 years" you know that number was chosen because it was hotter 65 years ago. if it is the hottest day in 104 years, you know it was hotter 105 years ago.
the AGW faithful want you to believe that hot days prove global warming, but that cold days are irrelevant.
See there it was again!
We are wasting breath on these AGW disciples, this is religion to them, faith in something unseen and un-knowable…otherwise just show us the facts, the raw data, the scientific evidence…they make Wahabists look reasonable.
The Emperor is not wearing any clothes folks, they are naked and now we know the truth. Millions of families' livlihoods have been destroyed by these people from Detroit to the Amazon basin. Even India has pulled out, China never bought in to bein with, and Russia can't afford to. Conservation yes, statist redistribution no…
Hey dimwit you can google "Climategate" and it shows up on a thousand pages but here I'll give you a reliable link since apparently your fingers are broken!
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/lord-monckton-shut-do...
They will defend the tentacles that deliver their wealth at all costs, they are the hierarchy!!!
I think the whole crew at the new York Slimes are going nuts LO.L. They keep writing articles like anyone cares what they say. What really pisses me off is a jerk like Friedman lectures me when he lives in that energy sucking mansion. They keep this crap up and heads will roll. French revolution style.
Hey mindless mouth breathing libtard – take the lollipop out of your mouth and clean your fingers. Google is your friend. Kinda reminds me of you Dimwitocrats attacking Tea Party members instead of what they stand for…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/C...
Thanks for the backup J!
I See That PALMTREE'S Google Search is broken–Ha Ha that Prog wouldn't know the Truth if it Ran Over Him– and Then the friedman hypocrite– WOW — I am glad I don't have his NERVE In My Tooth– Hot Flat and Crowded– Buy One to Show How seriously Insane these Global Warming Hoaxers are– As toNever Let Them Forget as they are being Investigated for Fraud- From the Top to the Bottom ( AL to TOM ) from al's movie to tom's book nothing but lies– BTW Remember Liars go to HELL Tom ( and Al )– It is ALL An ATTEMPT TO BANKRUPT THE MIDDLE CLASS THRU TAXES AND JOB LOSS– See Spain and the net effect of Green Jobs– WATCH OBAMA LIE AND LIE ABOUT THIS– Then you can see just what he is made of too ! Libs Can't Handle the Truth but they can sure avoid it
Mr. Horner,
I was hoping you'd show up with an article today. Stewart Varney was all over Global Warming this morning for about an hour, leading off with the "Great Green Collapse". The wheels are falling off their oxcart, and the morons are in panic mode.
Thomas Freidman is going to end up looking like Don Quixote, jousting with windmills……….
Where does anyone get the kind of money to buy a house like that? I expect once Al Gore sees this picture energy measurements will be ordered and penalties assessed for impact on global warming.
Global Wierding?? Is that like Global Cooties?
These leftwing imbeciles are mentally ill. They need help. If you vote democrat you're a mental defective.
Is that a hypocrites house or Nero's Palace?
Neither of those links show proof of any emails admitting any kind of hoax. THey both go to the same rant by Lord Monckton.
PalmTree Bought – Mixed and Drank the KoolAid- What A Global Warmie he is– Giving Evidence of His Beliefs from the Lie Stained U.N Commision Created to distribute Disinformation on the Global warming Hoax–and wreak havoc on the West and get a TAX out of the Deal— Why all of this is hand in glove from the Politicians to the Scientist's to the Great Unwashed Dum Masses ( palmtree) to institute serfdom thru taxation and job destruction… Palm tree must be getting a monthly "Crazy Check" and doesnt need to work- while he sponges like the rest of Obama's Ilk in the WhiteHouse– In Fact it Could be Ellie Light or Anita Dunn using a new handle— Progs NEVER FAIL to ENTERTAIN
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/C...
There you go NUT SACK!
Here's a quote from that same BBC interview that the Daily Mail quoted. Of course you won't find it in te Daily Mail article because that was a shabby piece of journalism :
BBC:] E – How confident are you that warming has taken place and that humans are mainly responsible?
[JONES:] I'm 100% confident that the climate has warmed. As to the second question, I would go along with IPCC Chapter 9 – there's evidence that most of the warming since the 1950s is due to human activity.
Here's a good idea, try going over to England right now, where they usually have rainy winters. It's so cold there, and in most of Europe, that their wind turbines aren't working, kinda like the ones in the Northern US. Then tell them that "looking at a random storm in DC doesn't prove anything. TOOL.
Or maybe, go to Copenhagen, you know, where they got the 7th snowfall in the past century, right in the middle of the climate summit.
Pull your head out of your ass.
you can read right?
Here's a quote from that same BBC interview that the Daily Mail quoted. Of course you won't find it in te Daily Mail article because that was a shabby piece of journalism :
BBC:] E – How confident are you that warming has taken place and that humans are mainly responsible?
[JONES:] I'm 100% confident that the climate has warmed. As to the second question, I would go along with IPCC Chapter 9 – there's evidence that most of the warming since the 1950s is due to human activity.
Come out of your igloo Algore, the world wants to kick you in your nut
Realclimate.org is a subsidiary of Environmental Media Services, which was founded by one of Al Gore's buddies and has ties to some pretty radical left-wing spooks.
Nice try, though.
Here's an idea for you–actually respond politely to the information I'm presenting and tell me what's your issue with it.
Keep on singing Kum Ba Yah, beating the drum and smokin' the chiba!
Your doin' just fine destroying yourselves!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
NUT SACK!
NUT SACK!
These people are all NUT SACKS!
Right , just dismiss the source without addressing anything they have to say.THat's one way to avoid a debate, only admit sources that already agree with you.
This has got to be THE most expensive NON-PROBLEM situation that has ever come down the pike.
It's all made possible by a bunch of stupid, lazy, naive MSM " Friedman type journalists", who run cover for all these charlatans and fraudsters…And Tom Friedman is head green weenie….
His house reminds me of John Edwards' or Algores "modest digs"….Such a fingerwagging wennie….
Did mine, go get stoned now you fascist hippie!
Ha ha , that's actually pretty funny.
They'd all shit a brick if the peasants started showing up with Molotov cocktails. Bring a whole new meaning to cocktail hour.
Video: Virginia AG Tells EPA To Go Back To The Drawing Board Over Globaloney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2453...
It's beginning…
Chris Horner writes
'The New York Times’ leading in-house global warming obsessive, Thomas Friedman, has quite a column today. It is more a tantrum, really, as so many of his offerings have verged on being of late, if one that I find, even for him, remarkably detached.'
I had exact same reaction while I was reading that piece myself.
You can't say this but I sure as hell can, lets face it he has made too many trips to Bohemian Grove.
One doesn't suppose this latest ray of sunlight on the Globalists dirty little secret is going to help sales of his book, Hot, Flat and Crowded…
The states are now mounting legal defenses against Nobama and Greenies – ie Texas today.
Here's a good idea: stop reading realclimate: Lies by liars.
Gettin' close to pitchfork and torch time ..
I always thought Friedman was a putz, upon seeing his "modest greenWennie" chateau, now I know it…
No, Mr. Friedman – the reason you're a girly-man is your ignorance of the facts: Phil Jones is a government paid, bumbling ninny who basically admits his hockey stick (due to likelihood of Medieval warming period and other misinformation) is a bunch of hooey and that he doesn't keep good records – D'Oh!; the fact that weather stations are placed in urban areas which reflect more heat than they did historically when they were in rural settings; the fact there was no consensus, just one glaciologist here, a college paper there, and a climbing magazine article tossed into the mix; the fact that the IPCC is headed by a playboy railroad engineer who has business interests that will profit royally off of carbon trading, flies around in jets and seems to know little about climate science; the fact that scientists have fessed up to stating false information based on political pressure; the fact that Al Gore even knows he has no FACTS, so he is feverishly pursuing young gullible minds to simply have FAITH in global warming, via universities and churches – yes, he's proselytizing them with his climate religion – complete with prayers – as we speak.
Mr. Friedman is a girly-man for thinking that carbon taxes (and trading of offsets) will help the environment and not hurt the economy.
While he sits in his Prince-like luxurious manor, Friedman pooh-poohs rational information, thereby letting us plebeians have to bear the burden of his ignorance and his lack of curiosity for finding information.Mr. Friedman is a girly-man for calling himself a journalist as he ignores the plethora of data which shows his global warming hysteria has been proven to be a massive hoax.
I can't help but imagine Friedman in frilly, pink knickers, sitting on a floral satin throne in his energy-sucking mansion throwing a little tantrum as he scribbles his global warming hysteric columns, with tears streaming down his angry-red cheeks.
Be a man, Freidman, do your freaking research!
actually, how about……
NO. Free speech and all. You want polite?
Wait for the esteemed John Lepant to school you, ever so politely, on why your notion of AGW is incorrect.
Me? I'm not that polite to those who refuse to listen.
I laugh when I hear the term 'climate scientist', since climate covers many different disciplines. Palmtree's website of 'climate science by climate scientists' is laughable. Climate science involves oceanography, atmospheric sciences, geology, physics, astronomy, chemistry, sociology, history, and lots of others. Few scientists are specialists in more than one field; at best, they are like blind men describing an elephant by feel. That's not meant to be insulting, just a fact. The idea that there are 'climate scientists' is a joke. There are scientists whom study climate, but that doesn't make them climate scientists anymore than saying that since grass is green, then everything that is green must be grass.
I'd be willing to bet that Tom Friedmans carbon footprint is about as big as Algores arse.
Hot, Flat and Crowded just described Tom Friedmans head………….
"I can't help but imagine Friedman in frilly, pink knickers, sitting on a floral satin throne in his energy-sucking mansion throwing a little tantrum as he scribbles his global warming hysteric columns, with tears streaming down his angry-red cheeks. "
While visions of sugar plums, and J. Edgar Hoover danced in his head.
WOW!! Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed this afternoon..
TF. could be target #1 for the "pitch fork and torch" crowd
Palmtree you have a point, you are a person with a minority point of view, but you have attempted to maintain a polite level of discourse so you deserve better, having said that please try and understand this site sees lots of troll. Some of these trolls are rude little turds who have little or no reading comprehension skills, then of course we have the intellectually dishonest kind, some are regulars here and I have called them out for it. If you are here to truly engage in an intelligent discourse, then fine. But so you know it goes both ways, I posted some information for you recently, I trust you've read it.
I am a very serious student on the subject, the science, the economics, and the all important hidden agenda… I
will put a few links up after this verbiage, unless you can demonstrate that you are seriously looking at them,please be advised I won't see an incentive to continue further discourse with you.
http://www.ecoworld.com/global-warming/the-real-f...
http://www.petitionproject.org/
http://www.longrangeweather.com/global_temperatur...
Palmtree there is some very compelling and verifiable information, if you honestly look at these links you can't help but be at the very least agnostic on the subject…
While the children at the NYTimes obsess over their anthropogenic global warming fetish real news outlets, such as the Asia Times Online, routinely have excellent and informative articles. Here is one by a superb journalist who highlights the epic failures by Hussein in dealing with the greatest threat facing the world: a nuclear Iran.
""It seems clear that the administration of US President Barack Obama never will use force against Iran, despite the Iranian regime's open contempt for Washington and the international community. US Secretary of State Clinton this week responded with a direct "no" – not "all options are on the table"
The Saudis have done everything but take out a full-page ad in the Washington Post to encourage the Obama administration to attack Iran. Prince Saud al-Faisal, Saudi Arabia's foreign minister, warned on February 15 that sanctions were a long-term measure while the world faces a short-term threat from Iran. Egypt reportedly has allowed Israeli missile ships to pass through the Suez Canal en route to the Persian Gulf.
Secondly, Russia well might prefer to deal with Israel as an independent regional power than as an ally of the United States. A stronger Israeli presence in the region also might contribute to Russia's market share in missiles and eventually fighter aircraft. Russian-Israeli cooperation in a number of military fields has improved markedly during the past year, including the first-ever sale of Israeli weapons to Russia (drones) and Israeli help for the Russian-Indian "fifth generation" fighter project.”
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LB18Ak01...
Just download the released climategate documents from any number of places and read all about it. It's about 62meg. Pay close attention to the actual computer codes, formula, and logarithm. If you're like me and can't understand the technical languages, there are many critiques and actual runs of data using their parameters that proves the point pretty well. Climateaudit and wattsupwiththat both have very well done reams of information and articles that put the released information into a collated order and into the proper context.
What on earth could make you believe it's NOT a hoax?
I had a dream. . .
2011 Congressional Investigation, Special Counsel appointed, C-Span hearings coverage, the truth, indictments, impeachment, jail, restoration of rationality, more than one square of toilet paper. . .drill baby drill, tax revenues increase, incorporate more natural gas energy, clean coal, nuclear, develop alternative energy, affordable renewable energy solutions developed, US job market strengthens, dollar strengthens, long term energy strategies/planning developed, being good, rational stewards of the earth. . .
Where are the solar panels???
Oh, you mean the way that AGW religionists don't allege affiliation of responsible climate scientist with oil companies whenever they violate dogma?
Oh wait, they do…all the time.
It's a classic litigation technique. It is called impeaching the witness.
Another classic principle of law is the "statement against interest." Great weight is given to such statements. They are very difficult to impeach because the speaker has no apparent reason to lie, as the statement is harmful to his case. Such a statement was made by Phil Jones…several statements actually. His admission to poor recording keeping and the acknowledgment that there has probably not been statistically significant warming for the past 15 years is pretty damning.
But he was probably being controlled by Exxon's mind control lasers, no doubt.
good one
LOL
John is the man…
Mr. Horner,
Did y'all know that Algores Senior Partner in his investment firm is none other than David Blood? The same David Blood who was CEO at Goldman Sachs when this Climategate scam began years ago.
Funny, they originally wanted to call the firm "Blood and Gore".
http://www.generationim.com/media/pdf-ft-08-11-04...
Enroute from China………
obamasoros is still a danger to the USA
I want to see a full blown CONgressional hearing, with Goldman Sachs, David Blood and Algore testifying. I want to see Algore do the perp walk……………
It really isn't difficult, is it? Friedman and ilk have been exposed as abject idiots. Their only option is to obfuscate long enough to change the subject.
Ain't. Gonna. Happen. We plan to rub your nose in it until Hell freezes over, Tom and Company. You already have been destroyed. We just need to use your discredited corpses as bloody shirts for a few decades.
My opinion on this winter is ask God, he is in charge of wind and waves, heat and cooling, snow and rain, Mother Nature reports to him, God makes in rain on the good and evil people, also snow and rain on the good and evil, so why argue about it, let the people read the Instruction Book and then ask Our Lord and ?Savior, he has said weather will continue as is until the end of the age. So, God Bless America and this crazy world, He will take care of it, Obey God and leave all consequences to HIM> God Bless America
They will re-brand this anything they can to keep the money rolling in. In another post recently we were tallying up liberal alarmist scams that have soaked grant money from public and private sources:
DDT, global population boom, fuel source exhaustion, global cooling, Y2K, global warming, climate change… and there were others. The two I'm particularly waiting on is alien invasion and Godzilla attack.
Regardless of what it's called; the end result appears to be an effort to defraud the United States and her people of our treasures to fund these crackpots. Surely there should be a grand jury investigating this.
It's over palmy, the scam unraveled, the hoax is exposed, the "cooking of the books" has been shown the ligt of day.
If you have money in this scam, get it out.
Sorry! Global whiners get me hot and bothered… in a very bad way.
India has withdrawn from the IPCC coalition. Their guy HEADS IT UP!
nice catch, thanks.
News alert…. The cause of global warming has been found. It is the heat coming out from under all the greenies collars. Can you say "total meltdown"???
And they have the nerve to call us tea ba…
well, you know.
Think about this for a moment. Suppose someone walked up to you on the street and said, "i can control the weather for you, and all you'll need to do is give me complete control over every aspect of your life". What would you say to that person?
If the global warming scam gets into law, or if the Marxist in the White House pushes it on us via an (unconstitutional) "executive order", and the people stand for it, then they will deserve everything that will follow.
Ah. Classic Beyh maneuver!
It's not just in the US, Europe's extra cold and snowy too. Is it the whole northern hemisphere?
mobylady
Kinda like hot old ladies get the Cowboy hot and bothered…
The fact that most all liberals embrace global warming while most conservatives reject it tells me there is a huge political agenda attached it the phenomenon.
Me too!
Huh?
Remember this guy's HOUSE if the administration tries to bail out the failing MSM, its PR firm, with our tax dollars.
Who's the old lady? Thomas Friedman?
And a majority of the jobs gained through greening went to corporations owned by non-American companies.
Well, Obama is "agnosic" on tax increases for the Middle Class.
No kidding. While revamping my CD storage today, I noticed that one of James Taylor's songs (not a new one) was regarding Gaia, "goddess of the earth," or some such poo. It will take a long time, if ever, to shake this junk out of these programmed people. Maybe we need to frame it in a way most of them understand: Rehab. We'll send them to Gaia Rehab.
Nah. He'll just be calculating square footage to see if it's bigger than his place.
By the way, I believe that Algore and family frequently fly their carbon thrifty jet to the Virgin Islands and enjoy the Christmas holidays at tres magnifique Caneel Bay.
"All for THEE. Not for ME."
Soros is the one fiddling while Rome begins to ignite.
But he'd better have a very long lance if he wants to tilt at a green windpowered mill! Those suckers are HUGE! There is an awesome bunch of them in the area outside Sweetwater, Texas.
Remember this house if Obama's bunch tries to bail out the failing MSM, their PR firm.
Paying the electric bill for this behemoth with the tax dollars forced from citizens of modest means is a galling thought.
I feel similarly about any of the recent bipartisan bailouts. I think is is a wonder of capitalism if people can manage to earn enough money to live in a mansion, but don't make bad business decisions, buy gold shower curtains (Jack) and expect
I was thinkin' of Raquel Welch or Bo Derrick- before they got taken over by the green pod people…Plus I wanted to see if you were payin' attention…
Actually TomF dressed,, draglike, in Pink Knickers, sitting on a velvet throne..Forget it….
I always pay attention Amigo.
What I miss, isn't worth noticing………
If you want some good entertainment, go over to Big Hollywood and read the Gary Graham "Haiti" thread. It was rather entertaining there tonight.
Someone just got got caught in a public lie, with their shorts down around their ankles. Breitbart needs to clean house, and tighten up his operation, before he gets embarrased.
Funny how Lefties have such massive homes but they want energy tax us working folks into the poor house. I curse you Tom Friedman – and bty – you are no Milton Freedman!
I'd say send them to the bayou and let the alligators eat 'em. They have ruined the worlds economy.
Go Ayn, that's enough to turn a green man blue.
I was thinkin' Nancy or Hillary.
And every year Global Warming is supposed to give us bigger and bigger hurricanes. Then … mild season. Ahem. Let's talk about something else.
And even when we do have a bad hurricane season, it's only the worst in the last fifty years or so. So it's not even the Worst Everrrrr!
It's not about the climate, it's about the cash.
It is my understanding that there have been at least three Ice Ages. I was just wondering how these Ice Ages melted if there weren’t warmer periods as well?
Excuse me? Totally off topic. But how in the hell does a reporter for a bankrupt newspaper afford a gargantuan house like that? I mean, that's Marie Antoinette sized. What – did Friedman marry into money or maybe he shot craps or won at the ponies to come up with enough money to afford to heat that stupid house, let alone buy it? He certainly couldn't have gotten the money from his writing because the jerk writes dumb as dirt and he's also confusing (and he's definitely not funny). And he surely couldn't have earned all that money from his paycheck from the Times because – correct if I'm wrong – they're going belly up and firing people right and left and cutting people's salaries, etc. So – uh – how did Mr. Global Weirdness come up with the money to buy that huge pile?
Sorry – I know my question is stupid. But come ON – it can't be any dumber than the drivel that Friedman just wrote.
so if its not article where did you find it?? and how can he say that most of the warming since 1950 is due to human activity then say there has been little warming in the past 15 years? i know i have asked you the same thing before and you got me on a word that i put in that he did not say concerning that 15 year warming or lack of.
Fine he is 100 % confident, where is the proof with unchanged data to back it up? They use tree ring data for times when they do not have weather station data but do not use tree ring data for more recent times because it is different than weather station data. either tree ring data is wrong or its not. you cannot pick and choose your data to fit the outcome you want.
Carolyn-
To answer your question, from Wiki:
"Friedman's wife, Ann, is a graduate of Stanford University and the London School of Economics. Her father, Matthew Bucksbaum, was the chairman of the board of General Growth Properties, a real estate development group. As of 2007, Forbes estimated the Bucksbaum family's assets at $4.1 billion, including about 18.6 million square meters of mall space…"
Seems Thomas is a kept man!
Not that there's anything wrong with that…until he looks down his privileged nose at regular working folks, that is.
There is no clean data with a long enough history to draw any statistically significant conclusions.
Hmmm. I don't see any solar panels on the roof(s). Imagine the kwh's that could be generated with all of that square footage…. Oh yeah, it probably would not be very pretty though…
That kind of money comes from being well-connected or having ancestors that worked really really hard.
I expect you are right – Prof Gore would be annoyed if TF's house is bigger. But if they don't do carbon tax, that could really kill the economy – I hear AIG and Goldman are already making markets in carbon credits – and it would not be politically astute for the administration to have to bail them out yet again!
for now
Am I the only one who thought this article unreadable?
Really, how many start and stop sentences can you write in one paragraph?
I agree whole-heartedly with the point of the article but am somewhat confounded by the writing.
My first thought was the same. But, it is amazing the networking and connections these elite have.
Perhaps I shouldn't admit it, but recently, I have been thinking that we should begin making guillotines…
Isn't it just?
It's utterly amazing how all the lies are exploding in their faces at once, and how the people know it. It makes me a little fearful what they will do next — they have nowhere to go.
We know they're marxists/socialists with an agenda, we know the MSM is lying for them on all fronts, we know global warming is a hoax, we know healthcare is a hoax to enslave us, and they know that we know.
How now Mao (imagine Obama Joker face here) ?
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Note the key phraise "it’s just about other people" Friedman is just another do-as-I-say progressive*
progressive* hate list…
Old people
Gun owners
Conservatives
Religious people
Independent women
Big business owners
Small business owners
Those who are pro-life
Those who are pro-choice, if they choose life
Those who don't like ACORN
Those who oppose gay marriage
Those who respect the Constitution
Those who THINK for themselves
People who actually EARN a living
*progressive: I am elite and smart, you are stupid, therefore I will be your master
Dr. Thomas Sowell on Intellectuals
http://usataxpayer.org/?0028068146
The Obama Deception – Full length video
http://usataxpayer.org/?0071119896
Ok, don't forget to do your homework now.
Global Weirding. It's pathetic. It sounds like something a teenager in high school would come up with, not a sound adult. How many grown men (let alone women) are going to want to say "global weirding." Frankly, I think most reasonable adults would be embarrassed to say "global weirding."
Lord this is indicative of how desperate they have become is this is all they have left. "Global Weirding." Geesh!
Its simply amazing Americans continue to buy into this bull shit. Open your eyes America !
I think it is time to shout, ( as somebody once said)…."Follow the money!" We know Al Gore became a billionaire peddling this stuff as he lived in a house with a footprint the size of lower Manhatten. So I wonder, how is ole Tom planning on profiting on this stuff. From the scientists to ole Al, they were all whores, peddling snake-oil science and laughing all the way to the bank!
First of all, I'm fairly certain that our planet’s climate has been changing ever since there was an atmosphere. The celebs and “experts” who support the theory of man-made carbon emission’s link to warming will never be convinced they are wrong- regardless of the weight of any evidence to the contrary. It’s not about science, it’s about emotion. The global warming / climate change big-government solution types need this cause to give their lives meaning. Without a cause to animate them, they become empty shells that can’t bear the thought of being left alone with their own thoughts.
I'll bet Tom doesn't know or socialize with a single person that disagrees with him. He should visit red states more and red China less.
I'm not surprised at all, as the recent Gallup poll http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/Socialism-Viewe... shows that liberals and dems favor socialism, which this global warming control thingy is a part, 61% and53% positively, respectively.
What bothers me is the tone. If these AGW 'deniers' won't listen, force it on them.
So much for freedoms. Oh, right, socialism doesn't make room for basic freedoms, like speech/thought and self decision making.
Top U.N. climate change official Yvo de Boer told The Associated Press Thursday that he was resigning after nearly four years, a period when governments struggled without success to agree on a new global warming deal.
Good. We don't need deals, we need to do what is best for our nation and our world.
Good science is observable, repeatable. They lost/deleted the climate data supporting global warming.
What I've seen since a child is periods of cooling of our globe, with an occasional El Nino year. It certainly seems that the weather patterns have shifted a few hundred miles West, IMO.
Freidman truly defines the elitist "limousine liberal". He knows that if he can sell this Al Bore scam, he comes out at the top of the food chain. Anyone who actually READS the NYSlimes, much less write for them, is an absolute baboon.
There really is only one conclusion, "we are not in charge."
While revamping my CD storage today, I noticed that one of James Taylor's songs (not a new one) was regarding Gaia, "goddess of the earth," or some such poo.
It will take a long time, if ever, to shake this junk out of these programmed people
Maybe we need to frame it in a way most of them understand: Rehab. We'll send them to Gaia Rehab.
Some states (I think TX is one per DKF) are considering a strategy of "nullification", which is a simple No, Thank You to fed laws. In short, the states in question won't enforce a given law, will instruct their state employees not to, and will not set aside money to. In theory, the feds can't force the issue.
palmtree
JBnID answered you palm, all you have to do is read.
Can you do that Sweetie? That would be Great.
That's not likely to happen. Have you ever seen a picture of Gore's House?
I grew up watching a TV show called:
Connections was a ten-episode documentary television series created, written and presented by science historian James Burke.
Climate change was covered in this series!
Did you ever think that maybe, just before an Ice Age that maybe it snowed more often?
So, how can you say that a snowstorm brings global warming? I would think most people would agree that snow means a cooler climate!
So, prior to this in 1922 when we had 53.989 inches was that a cooling spell or the start of Global Warming?
Your statement: "But his point here is to express righteous indignation over those who disagree with him pointing with amusement to weather that, well, undermines his movement which, after all, made its bones telling us how one year’s melt or a specific weather event made their case"
It seems your point relates to the obvious, mass-media hypocrisy and fraud. I remain baffled how the mass-media proclamations relating to those "deniers" are in any way different from the mass-media proclamations relating to those "birthers"? Those "deniers" stood consistent against organized opposition and ridicule holding fast to 2 core premise: [a] there is a serious lack of facts in support of global warming, and [b] prove us wrong in our belief global warming is organized fraud. It seems obvious that those "birthers" too hold fast consistently standing against opposition and ridicule with the exact same 2 core premise, yet the mass-media [including the "MEDIA-RIGHT"] are using the exact same ["MEDIA-LEFT"] tactics in what has become repeated and consistent attempts to ridicule, isolate and demean what they identify as "fringe-wacko-birther's". Hypocritical? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it most likely is a duck.
Your statement: "Friedman would never invoke weather events as somehow able to prove his faith — even, say, wondering aloud about but of course not pining for “’a perfect storm’ — a storm big enough to finally end the global warming debate".
Here again, I remain completely baffled how the mass-media global warming mantra: "IGNORE THE FACT THE USA IS FROZEN STIFF AND THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF CAUSE IT WAS LOST", is in any way different from the mass-media Obama birth certificate mantra: "THERE WAS A 1961HONOLULU ADVERTISER BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT, AND THERE IS A DOCUMENT POSTED ON THE INTERNET, SO THIS PROVES BHO IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AND THEREFORE ELIGIBLE UNDER THE U.S. CONSTITUTION TO BE POTUS"? Hypocritical? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it most likely is a duck.
The mass-media mantras and tactics that have surrounded the global warming fraud are exactly the same as the mass-media mantras and tactics [manipulations perpetuated involving Obama's questionable and shady background and lack of proof of eligibility]. This same mass-media could not stop the perfect storm that is the TRUTH melting away the FRAUD that is global warming, no more than they will be able to stop the hurricane coming that will wipe out the hypocritical mass-media suppression of the "birther's". Tax paying legal U.S. citizens by the millions [a] QUESTION THE OBVIOUS AND RELEVANT FACT THAT THERE IS NO LEGAL EVIDENCE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN THAT PROVES BHO IS ELIGIBLE TO POTUS, and [b] DEMAND PROOF IF THEY ARE WRONG. TRUTH AND FACT will always prevail to reveal the hypocritical mass-media [left, middle, right].
Dude,
With that response you made yourself look Stupid.
Okay to begin, while i am no way saying climate change exists, im agnostic towards it and still reading, i will say the name was changed from warming to change years ago to imply an increase in climate variability, that means hotter and colder.
Secondly, I will say even most serious liberals do not take this guy seriously. Hes always been more interested in sound bites and never hesitates to use them even when its contrary to an intelligent argument.
Here in AZ they have now set certain dates as to when our 'monsoon' season begins. Previously it was based on certain meteorological conditions. Will the new monsoon season have an asterisk by it to indicate some change has been made? I doubt it. Now we have a new means and everything goes from the new false start. Down the tube Winston.
I wish you would show all these Liberal bastards homes. Why are the American people so gullible when it comes from listening to these people about anything.
Tom Friedman is a hypnocrite, liar and denier of the truth. He will continue to ignore the AGW Hoaxers at East Anglia and the entire Politically inspired nonsense that has been promulgated by Mr. Friedman, the entire elitist political class and the Educational System of our Nation. Thank you Al Gore for your lovely contribution of bull***t.
Someone hit Tom Friedman in the face with a snowball, please. Or a creme pie.
AGW has become the default excuse for anything & everything. it's the perfect boogeyman for the intellectually lazy. glaciers recede/advance? AGW.
a species of tree/mammal/amphibian/fungus thrives or fails? AGW.
a surfeit or dearth of severe storms? AGW.
your undies chafe? AGW. (unless you're a liberal- then AGW being exposed as a SCAM makes your undies chafe)
what really makes this tragicomic is they blame AGW even though there is virtually no solid proof it's even happening- especially for the most recent 15 yrs.
Brilliant analysis; as much as I've delved into this subject, I've never thought of it like that. If it's the hottest day SINCE 1976, then it's not really getting any warmer than in 1976, is it?
Then THANK GOD FOR TRIAL LAWYERS (like me), because a deluge of lawsuits from well-heeled companies has stopped EPA dead in its tracks.
Remember, folks, STOP WHINING about how Progressives use our court system; they simply recognize the weaponry and use it to their advantage. In my humble opinion, based upon three years of law school and eighteen years of being a trial lawyer, the legal system actually favors a Conservative outcome, particularly where juries are involved. Using the courts to stop the EPA and thus protect our liberty is utterly brilliant, utterly Conservative, and utterly American.
In the same vein, Avatar director James Cameron was recently quoted as being in favor of eco-terrorism I found a place eco-terrorists can start…James Cameron's own house:
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/james-cameron...
Hypocritical dbags, every one of 'em.
exactly right. every time i see some mention of say, a species of tree growing at a higher elevation, "Obviously due to AGW!" i want to ask, "oh, really? where were these trees growing 1000 yrs ago? 10,000? 100,000? you don't know? then STFU you idiot."
Hey, can you explain to me 3% of 4% and why that tiny and inconsequential number is something to worry about. You are so smart, qualified and competent in the area of science that I don't need to give you anymore than that information because you already know what I am talking about. Right? Think, Think, Think, Little Palmtree Pooh Bear.
Tommy should paint a solar panel or two on his pool house roof to give an outward appearance of environmental concern.
I'm with you on all points, but you seriously need to learn how to edit your own copy. Who writes sentences like this?
"…fraud on the American public." American?! You mean the world public!!
The IPCC has not been discredited — in the eyes of the true believers. In the eyes of anyone with an ounce of common sense, of anyone who isn't invested (monetarily and emotionally) in the AGW lie, the IPCC has been a joke for years. Of late it has become an ever-increasing joke, as its claims are shown to be utterly non-scientific.
In the words of an old commercial: "I LEARNED IT FROM YOU!!!!"
Seriously, dude, even after the oil companies started funding AGW cultists, the AGW cultists would declare "deniers" to be in the pay of oil companies.
Did anyone besides me take that as a threat???
Friedman married a rich fool…I tried to read his juvenile book, the World is Fat…made no sense.
Amen! The pinheads are about to become extinct due to the perputuation of their climate fairy tales. I guess global warming IS dangerous to certain species!
Here is a comprehensive list of things attributed to Global Warming. http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
Let's all think about it for just a moment. The earth has been around for 4,500,000,000 years. We've been measuring temperatures for about 100 of those years (incorrectly and biased, I might add). Meterologists can't accurately predict the weather next week (yes, I know "weather" is distinct from "climate"). Does anyone honestly believe that ice has not been "created or melted" over the course of the last 4.5 billion years? And finally, how can we know with any certainty that climate has ever been "stable" and not either warming or cooling over time?
Now, should we stop putting billions of pounds of CO2 into the air? Yes, I believe we can attack that problem on a global basis with private enterprise leading the way with sensible government policy decisions.
Good talk by Bill Gates on "Innovating to Zero" at TED last week. http://www.smartplanet.com/business/blog/smart-ta...
You're absolutely right that nobody used the word hoax in the climategate emails. They just wrote emails furthering the hoax by perverting the data, conspiring to break the law, and engaging in campaigns to defame their opponents and bury their scientific evidence. But because they didn't use the word 'hoax' when talking about how they can't account for the lack of warming over the past decade then everything's all right.
Although I'm sure this post is going to get down-graded into oblivion despite fundamentally agreeing with the article and ~90% of the comments;
Simply because I'm bored, and tired of people bashing anything that has something to do with preserving the very environment that we depend on.. I'd just like to put in my .02 to clear the record; that "Global Warming" champions =/= environmentalists.
I, for one, consider myself an environmentalist in regards to maintaining the planet so as to sustain it's well-being, its' eco-systems, it's sustainability (among many other things that this planet offers of which many people take for granted) and thereby our continued existence – That isn't to say I buy the theory behind Global Warming, though. At one point I, like most people that currently *do* subscribe to this.. 'religion,' *wanted* to believe in it.. for any numbers of reasons. In my case, I was younger (15-16, now 21), wasn't highly literate in such sciences and on face-value, it seemed to make fairly perfect sense.. However, anyone who knows me knows that I don't make up my mind, nor will I take a side that easily – I needed conclusive evidence.. Thus, I was a skeptic.
Though, as I continued to research the subject I was intrigued by not only gaping holes in their 'truths,' but I noticed the serious and malicious contempt that Global Warming activists aimed towards any dissidents (or anyone who wouldn't simply bow down (i.e., skeptics such as myself) – coupled with the troubling lack of impartial (that's what *science* is, right?) debate in the political -OR- scientific arenas; this, to me, seemed indicative of a trend in partisanship, corruption, elitism, disdain for the Right-wing, Big Oil, etc. (which, I find it dangerous and nonsensical to do so – much like how I feel in regards to somewhat of an irrational backlash towards environmentalism as a whole rather than simply questioning 'Global Warming'), etc..
Turned off by the Global Warming movements' inability to present any attempt (i.e., a two-sided but ultimately cooperative approach to discern the truth) to win over (or even address) skeptics such as myself, I felt that I had no choice left but to shift (from agnostic) as close to atheist as possible with it being outright (not to hedge my bets or anything, simply because I'm open to such science, assuming its presented fairly)..
Thus, in about two years time, I went from believer, to skeptic, to what might as well be an outright denier regarding the issue. As I said before, I don't make up my mind easily, nor do I have any direct experience with any of the relevant sciences (so what's my opinion worth – eh?), but the final nail in the coffin, for me, was the media's (online, print, television, etc.) complete refusal to debate, nor even address any dissenting point of views. Thus, my belief wasn't so much founded in sciences directly refuting the shoddy Global Warming sciences (though, in part, it was); it primarily revolved around the scared, intimidated and weak sentiment demonstrated by the Global Warming champions – that, if it's so widely accepted as fact, if such related legislation and market maneuvers is impacting the entire world and affecting hundreds of billions in commerce, why is the opposition being silenced? From the looks of it, shutting them (the opposition) down via debate ought to be easy enough?.. Apparently, this is and was not so.
I formed my view years before 'ClimateGate' and even years before any of the U.S. MSM decided to cover any content that didn't wholly accept Global Warming as an indisputable fact – such cases have really only reinforced my stance and cast further doubt upon it's legitimacy.
Why have I typed all this? Honestly, I don't know – if it's 'too long' or 'off-topic', I understand, I just felt like ranting (just got done sending Friedman a lengthy diatribe); the original reason was stated at the top but could've stopped after the first 2-3 sentences.. Firstly, it was a short-hand attempt to disconnect the contempt towards Global Warming from environmentalism as a whole. Secondly, I'm simply bored waiting in between classes.. Lastly, I just wanted to illustrate my introverted-debate concerning 'Global Warming' to others, if not only to seek said 'conclusive evidence' (if it exists) in Defense of Global Warming that I referenced throughout my diatribe, but also to spur further debate.. And alas,.. I'm late to my next class.. bored and incoherent rants ftl..
Cheers
The IPCC undertaking is huge. The climategate emails determined some people to do some spot checking. They found further errors which is prompting further errors to come to light. At this point it is going to be a matter of years before the full thing is reviewed properly and we find out exactly how much of it is a pack of lies rather than mistaken.
None of the IPCC's AR4 predictions are coming true. We're cooler than we should be. Nobody knows why. It isn't because we've restrained CO2 production. CO2 continues to rise unabated. It's reasonable to conclude that the Pachauri has been lying by hyping the glacier finding of AR4 for TERI fund requests after he was notified how flimsy it was. How many other mistakes are there? How many other lies? It is too early to tell. But what's clear is that an organization that doesn't even have a process to fix errors has put out a report riddled with them. Reasonable scientists are backing off their certainty until the science is actually checked by people without an agenda, precisely what many skeptics have been asking for over the years.
That place looks like a small college
Simple question I ask of the “climate change”/”global warming”/”global weirding” folks: are you in favor of reducing immigration rates to developed countries (i.e., USA, UK, Canada, Australia, France, etc.)?
If not, then you are completely full of shit. Immigration is now the lone driver of population growth in developed countries. It drives consumption, sprawl, and, yes, the increased output of greenhouse gases.
But of course these people *were* against population growth – when it was white people doing all the breeding. But they’re just thrilled when the population growth is being driven by OTWs (other than whites). Now their concerns about overpopulation, all the rage when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, have completely vanished.
So, you ask me, do I have any faith or trust in the global cool…er, global warm…er, climate change folks?
You needn’t ask.
How many Chicago Climate Excahnge CFI’s did he have to print to buy that house……..
My question for the last couple years has been: "Why is GReenland called Greenland?"
The answer fixes the AGW problem.
And as for Friedman's pad — forget the windmills, where are the solar panels?
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WYATT
Please don't refer to me as a "global warming denier". I find that label offensive in the extreme as it is a takeoff of "holocaust denier". I refuse such a comparison as it is politically charged to allow those who use it an excuse to ignore and marginalize me.
Outdoor pool? Bet that pool is as heated as Friedman's rhetoric.
some one has been blowing CO2 up Friedman's ass
Thanks for the photo of the Friedman Estate too. Makes me wonder what goes on in his mind as he pounds the keys, harping on the need for America and the world to live more ecologically sound lives. What bunk!!!
palmtree
Al Gore is going to California this weekend, will they have Snow?
Just circle the wagons Alarmists, the Truth is coming your way, and it has a habit of winning!
I really have to ask. How is someone like him created? Is a person just plugged in to a hole? Who picked him? Why? He is so predictable it is wearying. One waits for some glimmer of talent, honesty, something. He fills a spot that, were he to exhibit the slightest unorthodoxy, would be gone in a nanosecond. No, sorry, the spot would still be there, they would just fill it with some other hirsute Marxian type. Who buys his tripe? When he speaks, who pays him? Who goes of their own free will to see him?
Well, I seem to remember "agnostic" meaning sort of "on the fence," to use a ranching term.
Not yes. Not no – just not committing.
So, let's see…Obama is not committing himself as to whether or not he wants Middle Class Tax Hikes.
I think that should scare the ever lovin' heck out of the Middle Class.
Yes, I suppose that Washington having a snowy winter doesn't particularly prove anything. However, when *Dallas* has a particularly snowy winter, one might think that perhaps the cries of wolf are rather ignorant of the facts.
It's in the BBC interview that the Daily Mail is quoting. You can find it yourself online.
Most of that is bull****. They found a couple mistakes in a 1000 page document. If there were other mistakes I'm quite certain they would have been on Fox news by now. Most reasonable scientists haven't changed their opinion based on this story at all.
That is a wild exaggeration of what those emails contained. Do you realize that while you think climate change is a scam, you are actually being scammed by some of the exact same people who denied a link between cigarettes and cancer?
Here , check it out , the same people who lobby for tobacco companies are lobbying against climate change, you can trust them right?
http://climateprogress.org/2009/07/29/the-video-t...
Here's a response to the petition project, it seems pretty dubious:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-grandia/the-3...
Wattsupwiththat? Do you realize that Mr Watts is a radio weatherman without even a college degree? Do you know that he works with some of the same people who lobby for the tobacco industry?
You wonder how this big a hypocrite can liv with himself.
Palmtree I posted earlier
'But so you know it goes both ways, I posted some information for you recently, I trust you've read it. I am a very serious student on the subject, the science, the economics, and the all important hidden agenda…'
So…the response back from you is absolutely no confirmation that you have at least looked at and contemplated the information I took the trouble to send to you for your benefit?
Instead you send me usless bullshite from the patheric Puffinton Host?
I try and send you an olive branch and you insult me?
Listen you are never going to learn if don't look at the truth.
Stop reading the shite from media matters, daly kos, Americans fro Progress. they are all fugging liars.
I thought you were smarter than that…
Its not so much about facts, its the MONEY… well, for many. The down in the trenches Global Warming Nuts are running around like they're on fire screaming the mantra's hoping all this snow will melt with the obviously "absent" searing temperatures that they were told would undoubtedly be here… then.. a repreive.. someone told them that NO.. Global Warming means there will be even COLDER Temperatures! It makes perfect sense.. There is NO WAY TO DENY IT! LOL… if it wasnt for the fact they had planned on taxing us into oblivion I would have laughed. Now many of the people who USE to buy into are waking up and realizing they were "Had".. but.. there are still the lame brains out there that cannot let go .. they've bought into it SO DEEPLY that its "Defined" them as a person.. they are like a junkyard dog who wont give u a bone until you shoot it in the head… Oh well.. there always has to be some with lower intelligence in our society.. I'm just surprised there are so many of them! LOL.. they are really sticking out like blinking lights now! LOL..
Friedman should go back to doing what he's good at—fawning interviews of fat muslim women in posh Parisian quartiers about how much they admire Osama bin Laden.
Really, where did he pick up all that upholstery?
He needs to give his knife & fork a rest.
What a hypocrite!!!
Great post. I find this to be a really fascinating topic and you put a new spin on it for me. Thanks!
wldbil, I do appreciate your polite response above. I read the long rangeweather essay. Well ok there are some climatologists with differing views . I would say that the vast majority of people in that field support global warming theory. I don't consider myself well educated enough personally to judge the scientific evidence in a competent way , so yes I rely on the judgements of "experts" .
I have read the same criticism of the petition project numerous places, ie that many of the names cannot be verified, and that the names that can be verified are largely from unrelated fields such as economists. If there was another lists of 31,000 scientists that supported climate change would that convince you of anything?
I would note that although you expect me to read your links, you dismiss all my links out of hand. THe first link I provided goes over the errors that the IPCC made in their report point by point and shows very clearly how exaggerated the criticism is.
JBnID, don't bother with palmtree. Facts don't mean a thing in his world.
See what I mean, JBnID? Palmtree is using a tired Alinsky tactic to try and discredit wattsupwiththat, rather than at least bother to look at the info you pointed him to. Why? Because palmtree doesn't care about anything but pushing the socialist agenda, even if he has to lie, cheat and smear to do it.
I'm not a socialist , I'm a capitalist. THe fact that you assume I'm a socialist based upon my opinion on climate change is a excellent example of how irrational conservatives are on this issue.
Here's an essay I found on climateaudit:
http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/15/kerry-emanuel-...
I also might point out that I do go to the links you guys provide and check things out, however any links I post are just dismissed out of hand.
The facts are that there is a very heavy media push right now to discredit climate change and all the scientists associated with it and you have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
Jones as the house cleaner and Mann as the coach showing how to properly use a Hockey Stick?
You do the *exact* same thing. Typical lying, cheating liberal.
Wouldn't it be interesting to ALWAYS post a picture of the house when you post a column by the person? Maybe cars, too. And if they have a vacation home… They find it interesting to expose conservative hypocrisy, why not expose them?
The scientific reality about the climate is unimportant as long as their Giant Government Schemes are implemented.
Peons must be silent.
Apparently Tom Friedman bought his 7.5 acre lot to save it from being subdivided into 12 lots at 5/8 acres each.
Good move Tom. We all know how such high-density housing attracts unsavoury types and quickly turns into slums.
Tom even appears to have a solar blanket on his pool. Clearly, he is doing his bit for the environment. Or is that a tennis court?
But we must cut Tom some slack. After all, he is an influential man and if he can convince just a small percentage of his readers to do as he says and not as he does, then surely he will have earned himself sufficient carbon credits to more than offset his own profligate lifestyle.
You do realize that fascist and hippie are on separate ends of the political spectrum, right? Fascists believe in corporations taking over government and hippies are anti-corporates. I wonder where you get your information from, because you're obviously misguided and misinformed. Something that is not so surprising from someone who believes that Glenn Beck actually has something intelligent to say. On top of that, the recent snow on the east coast did nothing but prove global warming models.
The middle class giant is wide awake at last! and we are pissed. In a way, the lefts over reaching power grabs are the best thing that’s happened to this country in a looooooong time. Sure fire cure for apathy.
And hey Tom! go jump in that fancy pool and freeze off them NUTSACKS.. after all they are probably empty anyway
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