Recently, USA Today ran a story about Michael Mann, the lead author of the debunked “Hockey Stick” fable and principal actor in ClimateGate. Specifically, the paper bemoans the inevitable slowing of Mann’s ultra-important, (even “stimulus”-funded) research due to McCarthyites like us skeptics who refuse to just accept an economically harmful ideological agenda ostensibly grounded in what has turned out to be the biggest scientific scandal of our time.
This strange assist in the ongoing effort to rehabilitate the warmmongers offers a nice opportunity to mention an email I just found going through a massive document dump from NASA under the Freedom of Information Act. These 1,500 pages were apparently produced at the 11th hour seeking to forestall litigation we had signaled was coming for NASA’s refusal to come into compliance with the transparency statute.

We’re still suing for their refusal to turn over entire categories of information for which the taxpayer paid, and which are highly relevant to the unfolding scandals, which withholding was not changed by these documents. We just have to go over the documents first.
And among the gems we found was an admission that NASA (specifically, its Goddard Institute for Space Studies, or GISS and its GISTEMP data) passes no one’s test for credibility. Rather, according to NASA, it’s worse than the “CRU” temperature data that was the central issue in ClimateGate. That is the temperature record which we now know was for all intents and purposes fabricated.
This relative weakness is, again, according to NASA. In an email to USA Today’s weather editor, Doyle Rice. Pre-ClimateGate, to be sure. But read the email yourself and wonder how this never made it into the paper, then, now, or any time in-between.
Compounding this admission is that Mr. ClimateGate himself, the UK Climatic Research Center’s(CRU) Phil Jones, even said the same thing to his buddies. Defending what has proved to be at best data he knew he didn’t actually have and, worse, pure fabrication, he wrote that while they may think his data set — so bad that it could not be made sense of despite desperate efforts at backfilling and imposing the by-now infamous “fudge factors” (their words) — boy you oughta get a load of NASA. It’s worse than CRU. Really. “GISS is inferior.”
And now I have NASA’s own GISS agreeing. And USA Today has had it all along.

NASA’s temperature data is so woeful that GISS’s Reto Ruedy tells the USA Today weather editor in this email that “My recommendation to you is to continue using…Phil Jones’ data for the global mean [temperatures].” You see, “what we do is accurate enough” — left unspoken: for government work — “But we have no intention to compete with either of the other two organizations in what they do best.”
Yikes. Yes, he said that. NASA’s is worse than the ClimateGate temperature data. According to NASA.
Apparently, and although this was never stressed before in all of the hysterical media that they get for proclaiming to have discerned temperature record after hottest year after exhibit of proof of catastrophic man-made global warming,
NASA’s GISS is really just “basically a modeling group forced into rudimentary analysis of global observed data” back in the day but, “Now we happily combine [the National Climatic Data Center's, or NCDC's] and Hadley Center’s data to get what we need” for purposes of evaluating their models.
NASA’s reference to NCDC invokes the third of four data sets pointed to by our apologist friends who claimed that, well, there really was nothing to see here about that whole CRU thing, because of all that other independent data. Except that here we read that NASA’s data is not independent at all, but thoroughly dependent upon the non-existent/phonied-up CRU numbers, slapped together with what GISS’s Reto Ruedy refers his inquiring (ok, fairly credulous) reporter to as the gold standard for US temperatures, NCDC.
Except that Joe D’Aleo and Anthony Watts have exposed in detail how NCDC’s data is garbage, having made a practice out of backing out more rural and higher altitude — that is, cooler — temperature stations over time, exaggerating the warming illusion. Not that you would know this from reading USA Today.

Three out of three temperature data sets stink to high heaven. And we even have corroboration. From the alarmists, the data custodians and promoters, themselves. Second-sourced, no less.
USA Today did not follow this thread when offered in 2007, or at any time since, including as what was an enormous scandal (outside of the US establishment press) unfolded.
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Is it just me and most Americans, or is it that global warming is a big scam?
Totally a scam and most likely, a crime.
IPCC 4th report is prob what you mean Phineas…
TRY this LINK it goes to a PDF some sites say under maintenance but you can get to them on other links….
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction...
IMHOFE SITE ABOVE it's a good start to EXPLAIN IT and then go from there….
AlGore's ponzi scheme has been soooo… shot to pieces. Its all about making manbearpig rich the UN gaining more control over the world. Naturaly, Oblahblah wants to join in…cause he's all about control over people and taking their money. Polar bears are doing great, ice shelves are expanding, sun spot activity is increasing and nature is doing just fine thank you. And no manbearpig, carbon increases do not occurr before warming takes place. Its just the opposite. You can observe that phenomenon in your own gardenswhen winter turns into early spring. As the sun gets warmer, plants become more active, they give off more oxygen as they take in carbon. All of which is caused by natural seasonal changes from cold to warm. And who's fault is that? Oh that would be the sun. One of three influences on natural climate change, the other two being ocean currents and volcanic activity. Mankind has nothing to do with climate change. Settled science? Bullhockey. The only settled science are things like the Laws of Thermodynamics and Newton's laws of motion. Everything else is up for debate. But climate AGW. is nothing but a ponzi scheme to make jerks like manbearpig rich.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction...
Senate Minority Report Imhofe describes Scams of Global Warming..My last email didn't go through for some reason… GODD way to educate yourself.
To be completely fair, when Ruedy said that NASA’s data is worse than the ClimateGate temperature data, perhaps he wasn't fully aware of just how sh!tty CRU's was. Maybe NASA actually had better data, due to the fact that CRU's 'data' should be properly placed in the 'Fiction: Sci-Fi' section at the local library. Maybe NASA accidentally had a few accurate data points?
NASA…welfare for engineers….
It's breathtaking to see the extent to which the MSM goes to cover- up, what is essentially a universe of lies, thru complicit non-reporting on this subject.
If not for the alternative media ( Internet ), how would one have an inkling about this deception?
To me, lies of omission are the worst kind of lies….
I have known this implicitly from the start. Any warming comes from the continued thawing of the Earth from the last ice age. There is nothing wrong with our world. Mankind is a part of nature not apart from nature. The liars have taken science and politics and perverted both into something not worth spit. I hope they pay with their jobs. Jail would be proper.
The sad thing is, just like health care, this administration will ram it through regardless of the facts. Like Saul Alinsky says, "when in trouble, step on the accelerator."
absolutely!! they say that Al is on track to becoming the world's first "warming billionaire." last I checked, presenting false information in order to profit from it is called"fraud" and is against the law.
actually, there's no such thing as "settled" science among reputable scientists. they are constantly testing established laws and theories.
For years it was accepted that if you put "…and its effect on Global Warming" at the end of any research abstract, you would get grant money and/or funding for research. It started out as a way to break the Welsh Coal Miner unions and wound up being a cash cow to disenfranchised hippies.
There is actually no such thing as 'global warming science' or 'climate science' at all. Climate involves several scientific disciplines: geology, geography, physics, astronomy, oceanography, climatology, mathematics, computer science, data science, and so on. The combined efforts of all these disciplines is what are used to arrive at climate conclusion and projections, and one misstep, miscalculation or intentional omission of fact in any one of them can skew everything.
Thanks Chris, so now it's out there. the once proud NASA space agency is now a pathetic joke thanks to James Hanson.
I live in a state where air polution detectors are place at a major highway intersection to justify an emission tag test and fee for a rural county with no industry. Smile, they will contnue to push the agenda after repackaging, it's all in the presentation, perhaps human activity causing earthquakes or volcanoes.
The MSM has always been in bed with the left of this country and their agenda. There is a report on http://www.americanparchment.com that says that the MSM will be ramping up Global Warming articles as the Climate Scandals and with the upcoming Cap and Trade bill. Watch the increase come and make sure other see it as well. The MSM wants to pass the Lefts agenda and will do anything needed to get it done.
Don't forget that Roy Spencer is also a NASA guy.
Right On! These people are propagandists, plain and simple. They create a "narrative" and simply repeat it over and over with no regard to fact. We are dealing with truly evil people whose goal is to control uneducated masses by lying to them.
What do facts have anything to do with theory? Especially if the theory gets government control.
I am quite sure NASA got that call last year that went something like this:
"We are going to CUT your funding" We are reasonable however in your plight to remain a viable entity…. WE have a way of RECONCILIATION and we are sure YOU WILL AGREE that it will be mutually beneficial in the end. Create validity for our Global Climate religion or WE SHUT YOU DOWN…. Or something close to that!
This is what happens when you take a bunch of rocket scientists and tell them they are no longer to work at manned space exploration. They get bored and make crap up.
Funny that Mein Fuhrer Obama is redirecting money from our space program so that NASA can buy fraudulent temperature data from CRU!
Yes, NASA's data is as pure as the driven snow!
I predict that SIGNIFICANT warming is going to happen in the next few months! (at least in the northern hemisphere)
And with that warming, when some "heat wave" occurs, it will no doubt be blamed on man-made global warming (or have they completely dropped that term, and just call it "climate change" so that it doesn't even matter if it is man made, as long as huge taxes are spent to study it and try to control it)
to borrow from Monty Python: "Scam, scam, scam, scam, scam, Scam, Scam, Scam, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAAAAAMMM!!!"
Danny Glover said that the Haiti earthquake was caused by our callous disregard for the earth. And if you can't believe an actor, someone paid to make-believe, who can you believe?
DANGER! DANGER! Climate change is next on THE CHOSEN ONE's list of changes to transform America. I think he is trying to transform us into Nigeria or Greece, maybe Afganistan?
I believe Sean Penn's BFF Chavez, he said Haiti's earthquake was from the US's earthquake machine.
Global warming is caused by (Michael) Mann.
ManBearPig
The gift that keeps on giving.
“…an economically harmful ideological agenda ostensibly grounded in what has turned out to be the biggest scientific scandal of our time.”
This never has been about science, much less grounded in it. Never. From the get-go, it’s ALWAYS been about politics, power & position. There is no science to be found, only fraud, deceit and manipulation.
Mann, Jones, Gore, Ehrlich, Carlson, et.al are aging 60’s radicals still on their magic carpet ride of utopia. Still seeking “the dream” before they die (except for Carlson). They’ve taken some idea and extrapolated it 50 to 100 years down the road, to the point of absurdity, instead renaming it ‘certainty’.
No true scientist would ever do that. That’s just nuts . . . which is what these fools are.
I spent 34 yrs with NASA , aaand am now long retired, NASA suffered the fate of most all bureaucracies: "bureaucratization." Read Ludwig von Mises 1944 nomograph : "Bureaucracy" to understand this almost inevitable process. NASA was an exciting and rewarding place to work in the sixties but time , politics and feast or fast funding took a heavy toll.
Hanson has brought great disrepute upon NASA. He will eventually be recognized as the fraudster he is, along with the CRU crowd. FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL and UN CONNECTION.
Thanks. It turns out the 4th data set (as opposed to the IPCC 4th) is one in Japan. I eagerly await seeing that one exposed as bogus, too. I wonder if they'll follow up with seppuku?
"Why won't anyone listen to me? I'm super cereal!"
- Al Gore
Hanson is certainly NOT a re-treaded "rocket scientist." This is an inaccurate and unfair characterization. Many NASA scientists and engineers (including myself) reject Hanson's contentions. See Heartland Institute. "ActinUPinTexas" is probably close to the truth: politics + science is a terrible union that corrupts and criminalizes the latter ."Whore" is a perfect characterization of scientists corrupted with grant money by politicians to achieve politial goals (it is commonplace).
As with the journalistic malpractice in the non-coverage of candidate Obama in 2007-08, the lack of any real skepticism or even basic curiosity regarding alarmist claims shows that genuine journalism is, with a few exceptions, nearly dead.
What's the 4th data set, by the way? And how long before that's shown to be as rotten as the others?
SCAM. Google Senator Imhofe Minority report (make sure you click on minority not the majority section)
you have to go through it but find the latest info reports presented (in PDF FORM) on global warming.
Many are on to it but the MEDIA (mainstream) never covers it. SCAM SCAM SCAM.
After my daughter was scolded in HS about not believing I began researching.. When the "scientists have to
"HIDE THE DECLINE" ((CRU emails) and go from 6000 data sites to like 1500, and some sites geared to warmer areas (near air conditioner condensors/airports- CO2 detectors near volcanoes (of course levels are more there!! DUH)…./ Go to Imhofe reports (dig there for a few reports areas…MINORITY SECTION-GOVT SITE) and Drudge/Breitbart….. It is sick.. If we kept records like this we would be fired with NO FREE MONEY FUNDING!!
There is a scam here, a really big one, but it's kind of complicated exactly what the scam is.
The planet is definitely warming. It's also cooling. Been doing both since cosmic dust started collecting in the sun's gravitational field about 5 billion years ago.
The real nut in all this is, if the climate is warming, what is causing it, and can anything be done about it, and if so should we?
the primary hinge of the scam is a complete white wash of what is causing it[?]
Normal science would require a certain number of repeatable scientific studies that prove a casual relation ship between warming climate and the cause. There is no study definitively proving any connection between human activity and climate temperatures.
It can be definitively proved in smaller locations, i.e. urban heating, where concrete, asphalt, pavement and other building materials absorb more heat than natural surroundings, and then radiate them at night, causing a slight, rising over all temperatures, but those findings have not panned out on a global scale, the studies only work on the city scale, not global.
Now here's where it gets technical and precise. If you were to do a study, and found that 95% of American who died in the last 10 years ate carrots, there fore eating carrots causes death, you have what is called a correlation. The two trends are similar, but there is no science linking them together. No proof it was the carrots.
That is not science.
Now, analyzing a study that repeatedly shows that getting drunk slows reaction times, and another study that shows that slow reaction times leads to more traffic accidents you have a causal relation ship between drinking and accidents.
That is science.
Now here's the real scam. Al Gore and his buddies have never proven a causal relationship between human activity and raising climate temperatures. What Climategate has proven is they don't even have the numbers to back up raising global temperatures. But the real scam is there is no proven causal relationship between human activity and rising temperatures.
Instead they've simply said the alleged warming began around the time of the industrial revolution, so there for humans must be the cause. There fore the science is settled, and if anyone disagrees they are members of the flat earth society or in the employ of Exxon-Mobil.
By relying on a correlation rather than a causal relationship, they have left science in the dust.
The reason a causal relationship is important is, well, suppose you went to a doctor with a sore foot and refers you to a dentist for a root canal. THERE IS NO SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO.
And there is your scam.
They tell us,
It's starting to look like NASA is up to it's eyeballs in this!
They would do well and come out and publicly disown the HOAXERS in it's own ranks.
While it will not overcome the 20 plus years they let (without proper oversight or worse in bed with) the crooks disparaging their name it will blunt the growing disbelief in their previous awesome accomplishments.
Since it looks like America will not be able to fund anything awesome again in this generations lifetime they need to preserve what they already have done.
P.S. Having lost the original moon landing tapes didn't help much with the growing trust problem they've got either.
Come on NASA do the right thing!
Thank you Sir for speaking out on what you see at NASA. That is what we need, those who are in the business, not only of climatology, but also science itself.
For far too long we've been quieted, and now is the time to speak out loud and clear. I plead with you to continue. Perhaps even write and submit a blog on this subject to this web site.
At this point, if the MSM came clean, they'd all be holding 'goin' out of business' sale the day after. They are far too invested in this to throw in the towel now.
If you build a chair with four legs all made out of the same rotten wood, don't be surprised when all the legs fail.
Agreed, this needs to be laid at the feet of the politicians, activists, and scientific-activists. Not the real scientists or engineers.
If I'm not mistaken the CRU numbers were the basis for all historical numbers. They've been tweaked here and there, and new data is independently gathered, but its all predicated on the original base line data, and I believe that's pretty much all based on CRU.
Source: http://www.oag.state.tx.us/oagNews/release.php?id...
“With billions of dollars at stake, EPA outsourced the scientific basis for its greenhouse gas regulation to a scandal-plagued international organization that cannot be considered objective or trustworthy,” said Attorney General Abbott. “Prominent climate scientists associated with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change were engaged in an ongoing, orchestrated effort to violate freedom of information laws, exclude scientific research, and manipulate temperature data. In light of the parade of controversies and improper conduct that has been uncovered, we know that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change cannot be relied upon for objective, unbiased science,so EPA should not rely upon it to reach a decision that will hurt small businesses, farmers, ranchers, and the larger Texas economy.”
continued:
In its petition for reconsideration filed with the EPA, the State indicates the EPA’s endangerment finding is legally unsupported because the agency outsourced its “scientific assessment” to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which has been discredited by recent revelations about the conduct, objectivity, reliability and propriety of its scientific contributors. In order to determine that a substance is a danger to the public health and welfare, EPA must conduct a scientific assessment. Despite the widespread consequences and billion-dollar impact of its endangerment finding, EPA did not conduct its own assessment but relied upon an IPCC assessment that has been widely discredited by recently revealed evidence of key scientists’ lack of objectivity and their coordinated efforts to hide flaws in their research, along with their attempts to keep contravening evidence out of IPCC reports, and the IPCC's violation of freedom of information laws.
If you have the chance, download the Texas Attorney General's complaint and begin reading on page 15 of the brief. It is absolutely amazing in the amount of deviousness the global warming proponents will stoop to in order to push their agenda. You will be able to read actual e-mails and determine for yourself whether there was fraud and manipulation occurring.
A few months ago, I decide to take a long hard look at GISS data. I found the data on their website for NYC Central Park (go with what you know). The first eye-opener I found was that, in calculating the yearly average, uses the December from the previous year. In other words, GISS starts the year on December 1st and ends it on November 30th. WTF?
According to their method, the hottest year on record in NYC is 2002. But, if you're like most people and the year starts on January 1st and ends on Dec 31st, then the hottest year becomes 1998 and that's using the exact same data. Just by moving on month from one year to the next is enough to skew the yearly average by as much as +/- 0.7º C. Why do they do it this way? Do the do the same for every other station? I don't know. As far as I know, nobody else has ever noticed this.
You have got to be yanking me. Please tell me Chavez spoke those words exactly. I am officially a fan of Chavez simply for the absolute highest level of crap anyone can speak and get away with it. I can see why Penn likes this guy. He is a laugh a minute. The South American Joe Biden
Gentle Readers,
Dear Hesed,
For a few people, like Al Gore, Carol Browner ( ACX ), Goldman Sachs and George Soros, who stand to make money from carbon-trading schemes, green tech and ' offsets ', yes it is a Scam, insofar they don't care if there really is warming caused by human CO2 emissions or not, they're just making money!
Many scientists truly do believe it, but most of the proponents haven't really looked at the data. Most scientists, when you show them the data, say human CO2 emissions do not cause global warming.
http://www.petitionproject.org 31,000 scientists in the fields of natural sciences state human activity does not cause global warming.
Kindest Regards,
John Lepant Brighton CO
I totally agree and understand. I was making a poor joke aimed more at the way NASA seems to be less and less about space and space exploration and more about other avenues.
And, as someone married to a scientist (microbiologist) I also understand that MMGW is the very worst of politicized science. You should hear my husband froth at the mouth over it.
I also predict rapidly receding glaciers on my lawn. It may take them only days to disappear!
Sadly it is true, the champion of the peon said this.
Excelsior!
Al Gore! Climate criminal! When do we get to see these frauds (yes I'm talking about you Leo, and that waste of oxygen; Ed Begley Jr.) frog marched into court? Manbearpig (I really like that), has foisted this scam at the top of his lunges for decades. All of it unproven and unprovable. Opiate for the masses of secularists who no longer see/believe God; but look instead to provide salve for their own self-loathing. Get a life people. Look at all government provided data skeptically. You know, like CBO scores for health fraud bills.
When government employed scientists provide "models" that substantiate their continued attachment to the government teat; ask them for the underlying data. And then demand that an uninvolved 3rd party review and provide an unbiased opinion. Then and only then will the people have a start of a study they might believe in. Until then Albert, go home and shut the hell up!!
Mann's Hockey stick graph debunked? Maybe you should update your knowledge a bit — it has been re-acknowledged — twice! Two separate teams of climate scientists — using the same raw data — made the hockey stick appear again and again. NASA data is garbage?! Good enough for space flight and putting men on the moon, but not for taking accurate temperatures I guess.
Here is a bit of radical thinking — lets trust the thousands of scientists who study such matters. If you don't trust science then you can't trust the EEG at the doctor's office, that your TV won't explode, your microwave will give you cancer or that the plane will not fall out of the sky. Science is what keeps us from fooling ourselves.
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AGW is absolutely true. During the past month I have driven my mid sized truck on two extra, special purpose, shopping trips. Since then the average daily temperatures here in central North Carolina have increased drastically. Just 3 weeks ago I had to wear a jacket outside. Today the extra CO2 I have injected into the atmosphere has caused so much AGW I can be comfortable in shirt sleeves. What more proof could I ask for? </SARC>
Total scam. They didn't call it the carboniferous period 300 million years ago for nothing. CO2 then — 3000+ ppm, and 385 ppm today
The biggest scientist on global warming, Phil Jones, got caught red handed and admitted they faked the data and there's been no warming since 1995. It does not get any better than that… or so we thought, it just keeps getting better and better.
The American media has been hiding the exposure of the scam and scandal that's been going on in Europe. The MSM here in America is worse than the Hugo Chavez media.
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I'm one of the signers and of the petition, did it 4-5 years ago by now, and I always love to remind the militant warmers, "They named the period 300 million years ago the Carboniferous Period for good reason."
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How about trusting the hundreds of scientists, whose numbers are growing daily, who call it crap?
The 'hockey stick' graph is crap simply because it ignores the Medieval Warming period, wherein Vikings were growing grapes in Greenland and agriculture in Europe saved the population of the continent. http://www.theresilientearth.com
Since it can hardly be an oversight, it must have been intentionally omitted to arrive at a preconceived result. That is hardly science.
http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/medieval-war...
What the EPA has said in response to the scandal is that they'd rely on American scientific bodies to make their rulings and regulations — problem is, NASA is already on record as having said in e-mails that the (bogus) IPCC's records are far superior than their own — Gufaaaaw!
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Jay Richards’ “When-Not-To-Believe-The-Science-Of-Scientists” is the best rebuttal to this collective insanity out there. Just quote one or more of a dozen of these depending on the offending Eco-hype in question and give Jay Richards' logic and common sense wings. His 12 point checklist should be taught in the classroom to inoculate our youth against the rising flood of propaganda manufactured by Big Government, Big Media and Big Academia working together against the best interests of the American people.
http://thegovmonitor.com/world_news/united_states...
You got a point, they didn't know how shitty CRU was. But when you're faced with the monumental task of tracking temperatures all over the globe and you know your data is incomplete, you might say something like "go with the CRU, the Authority" on the steaming pile we call science.
All this means is that NASA also is unable to do what it says it has been doing, but rather than admit to that they simply deferred to the people who were touting their data as complete.
Give the man a break! He invented the internet, for crying out loud! We should be on our knees thanking Al Gore! (not DARPA, we don't like the military)
/sarc
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I got my own term for the people in white lab coats with the sheepskins on the wall behind them, who show up on libster TV or the Discovery channel touting lispy Al's ruse. I call them "sperts". You know the type. They take a scientific position with a predermined outcome, skew the data and voila…AGW… Scientific method? Oh forget that. We don't do that here. Besides, most Americans don't use their brains anymore. They're too busy playing nitendo to care. I mean why should the average joe or joette, bother doing their own research on the subject? After all, we have so many "sperts" to do that for us; despite being so smart they're stupid.
No. Its been thoroughly debunked. Read the hacked emails. He left out the entire medieval warming period. His graph is pure political BS. I guess Mann's world is a bit like Al's world which is more like the twilight zone. Science is science when scientific method, and peer review are involved. Otherwise, its just politics driven by grant money like Mann. Or like manbearpig who just wants to make himself richer because he understands not the tenants of good science, but the tenants of a good carnival-barker. After all, there's one born everyday. For the people who still have a working brain check this site out: http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/9292009-con...
Jon Stewart is a douchebag.
But when he said this: "Poor Al Gore, Global Warming completely debunked via the very Internet you invented!"
I died laughing.
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Do you have a geographer on your staff? I would be interested in seeing the autocorellation figures which support (or don't support) NASA's use of 1200km for their extrapolation distance.
Where does your lack of respect for science come from?
So far, the only group of people in the world to display such grotesque arrogance and lack of respect for scientific organizations are the Young-Earth Creationists. YEC's believe the earth is only 6000 years old when in fact about 40 different lines of scientific evidence all corroborate each other and prove that it's closer to 4.5 billion years old. As far as the science goes, these people are off by a factor of 750,000 to 1. It's like asking someone how far they think the moon is from the earth and they tell you it's 3 miles away, and then insist that the science backs them up.
The bottom line is this:
Suppose an asteroid were heading for earth. Would you question the recommendations of NASA scientists as to the best way to deflect an asteroid?
Suppose you lived in Hawaii right next to a volcano and suddenly every major scientific organization in the world came out with joint statements that the probability of an eruption was very high. Would you question their opinion?
Suppose your child was sick and you took him to see 100 doctors, and 97 of them said it was serious and needed immediate attention, whereas, 3 said go home, relax, don't worry about it. What would you do?
Think of the entirety of scientists and scientific organizations that have to be either stupid or corrupt for you to be correct:
http://www.logicalscience.com/consensus/consensus...
I think the probability of deniers being stupid or corrupt is infinitely higher.
http://harryhammer.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/opini...
At docsteiner.org I have briefly discussed some of the details associated with anthropogenic global warming and how good scientists have sold out to political interests.
I have gone into the analysis of scientific data from esteemed institutions like NOAA, Woods Hole, University of Alabama-Huntsville, the Vostok studies, and NASA in a book titled, “Stealing America’s Future” to be released late in April.
We have seen major problems in the “science” of anthropogenic global warming, beyond the IPCC scandal. The data is incomplete and flawed.
1. Our scientists have used statements like “the last 150 years have seen a huge increase in warming and CO2 levels and the last 10 years are the hottest in recorded history.” That is false as they are attempting to establish a climate model of geologic time not based on geologic time. What about the times on this earth that were substantially warmer like the Eocene Epoch? Did man cause that?
2. Sadly, they have not considered the fact that our magnestophere has declined by 10% in strength in the last 150 years. What does that mean? It means high energy particles and heat more easily penetrate our atmosphere in the high latitudes.
anthropogenic global warming myths, cont'd.
3. More importantly, the Vostok ice core studies have shown there have been periods where the temperature changes have been inversely proportional to the CO2 levels. That diminishes the importance of CO2 as an important greenhouse gas.
4. The recent spike in CO2 was measured on the Mauna Loa volcano, an engine of CO2 and CH4.
While it is important to protect our environment, we have, most definitely, been hoodwinked by the most ardent of the anthropogenic theorists. Yes, anthropogenic warming is definitely an economic issue as opposed to a scientific issue.
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If it looks like a scam, if it smells like a scam, it usually is a scam. I've spent a fair amount of time reviewing source documents, most of which I got from the CRU files. It seems pretty clear that the global warming story was based on very shaky evidence at best. This isn't good science. I think we should get rid of the current crop of climate change scientists and start fresh, with new people who are objective and who understand the scientific method. We should definitely STOP wasting tax dollars on their biased and sloppy research.
Maybe you haven't been paying attention, but the raw data is the problem. Actually the raw data is gone missing, so their results are based on data that was "adjusted" to show the desired result. And I've examined the programming code they used to adjust that data in some detail–it is total crap! This is not science and should no longer be regarded as such.
AGW is purely a hoax.
1. The man caused theorists fail to even consider the natural periods of warming such as the Eocene Epoch.
2. The Vostok studies have shown where CO2 levels became inversely related to temp levels.
3. We have had a 10% decline in the magnetosphere allowing more high energy particles and light, which includes infrared=heat, to be absorbed in the high latitude areas.
4. They have to recognize the effects of plate tectonics and volcanism and they are huge.
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