Helen Thomas, the liberal harpy bestowed with legendary status by virtue of outliving her contemporaries, has finally been forced from her seat in the front row of the White House briefing room. Thomas’s odious comments sparked an outcry in the U.S., as well they should, but the media should spare us their outrage.
Thomas’s comments are indistinguishable from the pus spewed by members of the aid flotilla and their Hamas compatriots. The “peace activists” on the aid flotilla told the Israelis to “Go back to Auschwitz.” Yet the media portray the aid flotilla as a group of humanitarians seeking to deliver relief to distressed Palestinians, and the Israelis as bloodthirsty butchers. Thomas’s comment, horrible and reprehensible as it is, is the natural child of utter historical ignorance and the media’s continual focus on the supposed evils of the Israelis and lamb-like suffering of the Palestinians.
The Palestinians certainly suffer, but most of their suffering is the result of Hamas’s insistence on killing civilians within Israel. If terrorists wouldn’t cross over into Israel, there would be no need for a fence. Egypt also fears Hamas, and also prevents Gaza residents from entering Egypt. (“Israel consistently alleged that Iranian and other weapons were being smuggled into Gaza through a series of tunnels, and with Egypt maintained tight control on the enclaves borders,” Hamas, Council on Foreign Relations.) The Israelis take extreme measures to avoid killing civilians.
Hamas, on the other hand, happily murders women and children and is responsible for the deaths of more than 500 people in 350 separate terrorist attacks. CBS reports:
Israel’s international image had already taken a beating from allegations that it committed war crimes during its 2008-2009 winter war in Gaza, and from widespread global opposition to the blockade. Hamas was also accused of rights violations in that conflict.
Over at the New York Times, Hamas is described as a “militant” group, “peace activists” are given ample space to bewail their innocence, and Israel is suggested to be in violation of international law. Israel’s contention that their commandos were attacked first is given a throwaway line. In short, the Times article makes it clear that all right-thinking people should be appalled by Israel’s actions and by its blockade of Gaza.
Many members of the media profess shock at Thomas’s remark that the Israelis should go back to Poland and Germany. Yet by supporting Hamas’s amphibious auxiliary, they are aligning themselves with people who endorse Thomas’s views. Why not show some consistency, guys?
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The MSM and the Obama Administration are just as bad.
To quote gibbs, Obviously those remarks do not reflect the opinion, certainly, I assume, of most of the people in here, and certainly not of the administration.
So they tolerate in their midst those who believe and say such as dear helen.
The US should support Israel unequivocally.
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It wasn't Israelis that flew planes into our towers and killed almost 3000 of our people. It was muslim terrorists. So, let's see… Hamas…… Israel. I'm siding with the Israelis. It's not rocket science who needs our support and who should get it.
i guess the crime she comitted was being caught on tape saying what she did. usually the msm play the staw man, like obama does. someone said, then the bash, then how terrible. they say what is on their mind, without getting it attributed to themself. but helen said it in her own words, without adding the straw man.
Great point. It's a bit ridiculous to think that Israel should feel comfortable with missiles pointed at it given their history of being attacked numerous times in the last 50 plus years.
The BIG question in my mind is who will replace her on the front row asking pointed biased BS questions?
It would be a journalistic service to this country if nobody stepped up to the plate.
Those that support Hamas or the Palestinian cause are nothing more than haters of what is good and just. The Jews have a God Given right to that land period. So Hamas and the left continue to fashion any and every lie they can to lay claim to something that is not thiers. America, they will never want peace. Those self loathing whites who support people being inprisoned in camps all for show are despicable human beings.Those in charge in Gaza could IMPROVE the living conditions and the squalid poverty but that would weaken thier all loving, all eternal cause. The Destruction of Israel.
helen thomas was right on. clearly the jewish folks need to re-address their intentions in palestine. as many scholars have commented, the jewish people in israel behave like an abused child that's grown up and only knows how to abuse whomever they come in contact with. at some point, the israelis will realize they are reviled the world over and they will feel the shame that other oppressive regimes have felt. and it's a shame the american citizens are so ridiculously clueless about world affairs. perhaps with internet news outlets the americans can finally get educated about what the reality of the situation is. i have to comment, i find it incredible that the palestinians are willing to relinquish some of their territory to the israelis considering the ethnic cleansing they have had to deal with over the last 50 plus years. helen thomas, you are still a terrific woman reporter.
Israel is a bristling porcupine of a country intent of surviving no matter what the leftist press/intelligancia hopes will happen to them. Hamas and Hizbollah will be dispatched just like Jordan, Syria and Egypt were, on a regular basis. I believe Iran is next up to the plate.
Israel will shred Iran like the toliet tissue -paper tiger that they are. Those Iranians like to strut around in freshly pressed uniforms and award each other ribbons – but they'll cut and run when matched up against a real military like the U.S. or Israel. Hell even the Brits could beat the crap out of them.
you have no clue do you! perhaps you should study history as well as analyze what the sociopathic netanyahu is up to. he's a puppet like all other politicians, and the only reason israel exists is to aid the western leaders/bankers in their endeavors for world dominance. furthermore, it is highly unlikely that israel will even exist in 50-75 years from now.
israel can't do shit unless the u.s. allows it to. don't you morons realize that?
Clue??? Do we have a clue as to how a majority of the Jews exited Israel/Palestine to begin with in 90 AD? Do we have a clue as to how the Jews compensated the current landholders when they re-populated Israel/Palestine? Do we have a clue as to who incites more violence in Israel/Palestine? Do we have a clue as to whom it has been said 'we will wipe them from the face of the Earth'? Do we have a clue as to which group of people are not welcomed by their brethren (ie;Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, etc)? Well jjj, do we have a clue????
Helen is right out of a job. How's that for re-dress? or re-address?? Yeah turd bowl, who is the spoiled child that sold their land only to turn around and try to kill and vilify the very people they profited from? How is the internet you are using working for you? Think it would have happened if you were still in a tent? In the sand? Perhaps you should be kissing the hand of the very people you decry??? They have pulled you from the dirt and given you hope and opportunity and you want to do is spit, bite and kill them. How very, very sad for you and all those who canot accept what has been offered to them.
Israel's been "doing shit" sans the US since it was founded. Their soldiers have been putting it on the line, fighting Islamic terrorists and protecting the jewel of the Middle East far longer than America's been in the fight. America didn't win the Israeli War of Independence. America didn't aid an outgunned, outnumbered Israeli army take the Sinai in 56, nor directly aid it when retook the Sinai, and added the West Bank and Golan Heights in 67.
The closest America's come to actively aiding Israel's war efforts was during the Yom Kippur war, with it's emergency weapons shipments. But it was still Israeli soldiers who did the fighting and dying, and in the end beat back an enemy who had surprise, numbers and weaponry on its side.
They'll deal with Iran when everyone else fails to do so, and will no doubt reap an unholy amount of bad press for saving the Middle East from a Nuclear arms race and the world from potential nuclear terrorism.
Israel only exists to aid western leaders and bankers? Kay, we've got a guy living in Arab wonderland.
Time for some Israeli hotness, courtesy of supermodel, IDF member and Israeli patriot Esti Ginzburg.
BTW, Israel's not going anywhere. They may be in for seventy years of war, but Israeli Jews have endured a century of pogroms, holocausts and terrorism, millennia more if you consider the many atrocities visited upon world Jewry since the first Diaspora. They're tougher than any people I know, and will not be relinquishing their homes any time soon.
And may i ask where do you get your facts from?
You say: "they are reviled the world over", who do you mean by "the world"? It is unfortunate that your ego and the one of your likes is so big that you think you are "the world".
You say:"it's a shame the american citizens are so ridiculously clueless about world affairs." Does the fact that they get their information from other sources than the brainwashing radically antisemitic MSM make them clueless? Or maybe they actually know exactly what's going on and you are merely regurgitating the talking points of the liberal and antisemitic media? Do you think Helen Thomas was clueless?
You say:"perhaps with internet news outlets the americans can finally get educated about what the reality of the situation is." For one, i agree with you; GET EDUCATED BUDDY!!! THE TRUTH IS ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!
You say:" i find it incredible that the palestinians are willing to relinquish some of their territory to the Israelis". Pray tell in which chapter of your history book is that willingness mentioned? And you have the audacity to talk about clueless? Just in case you hadn't realized what a fool you are, you just wrote it online so that other Americans can read your posting and know what a fool you are; yup!
You write:"helen thomas, you are still a terrific woman reporter." Let me educate you. Go on to Google and search Helen Thomas and take a look at her comments about Jews going back to Germany and try to figure out what's wrong with that comment. If you can figure it out, there's still hope for you. And if not, i'm sorry to say you're a poor fella and as such i have a lot of compassion for you and I wish you a speedy recovery.
I have never known a people so mistreated by their fellow Arabs than the Palestinians. One may note that the Palestinians already have a country, one in which they make up a large majority of the population and was part of the British mandate of Palestine. It's called Jordan.
Part of me thinks the biggest mistake Israel's made was keeping the West Bank for so long, instead of fortifying the hell out of its border and then handing it back to Jordan. The Hashemite kingdom's long been the most moderate state in the region, and was always the uneasiest member of the anti-Israeli alliances of the fifties, sixties and seventies.
lol!!!!! hey, fuquehead, get on a boat like the "Rachel Corrie" and run the blockade. Catch a 9mm or two or ten.
(thenks for the kind words the other day and same to you. I'm getting ready to hit the road so I might be off line a bit depending on WiFi connectivity)
Its a shame you are so obsessed with terrorism that you tell such pathetic lies.
The "Palestinian" population has grown since Israel liberated Gaza, Judea, and Samaria from Egypt and Jordan.
The "Palestinian" settlements have spread since Israel liberated Gaza, Judea, and Samaria from Egypt and Jordan.
The "Palestinian" standard of living is among the highest in the region since Israel liberated Gaza, Judea, and Samaria from Egypt and Jordan.
Those trends have only stalled since the creation of the "Palestinian" Authority, and the withdrawal of Israel from Gaza.
For true ethnic cleansing you have to look to Jordan, which recently stripped thousands of "Palestinians" of Jordanian citizenship.
True Ewald – and while the U.S A.F. C -5's were landing in Israel resupplying them, the Soviets were resuplly the Egyptians and U.S. weapons and Israeli personnel were FAR SUPERIOR to the Egyptians. Game – set – match – EPIC EYGPTIAN/SYRIAN?JORDANIAN failure.
That set the table for the rise of irregular terrorists operations because regular armies can't fight and beat Israel.
OK, lets talk about history,
* The Hebrews, regional nomadic tribes, started settling around the area of Hebron between 2000 BC-1700 BC
* 1486 BC: Canaanite army defeated at Megiddo by Egyptian pharoah Thutmose, consolidating Egyptian rule over Canaan
* 10,000 BC: first permanent settlements in Israel
* 1300 BC: Moses leads the Jews out of Egypt
* circa 1200 BC: Philistines arrive by ship and give the name "Palestine" to the area; Jews start to arrive in Land of Israel (oops, the Israel was there 1st by about 1000 yrs. and the Philistines were the invaders)
* 990 BC: Jerusalem captured by King David and Israel unified as one nation
* 597 BC: Babylonians send army to put down a rebellion and take prominent Jews into exile
* 539 BC: Babylonians defeated by Persians (Still about 600 yrs from Christianity and 1100 yrs from Islam)
* 538 BC: Cyrus the Great of Persia allows the Jews to return to Israel and rebuild temple in return for loyalty oath to Persia
* 515 BC: Second Temple built
Short version
* Rome and Christianity 325 BC- 395 AD
* AD 638: Omar defeats the Byzantine army at the Yarmuk River (in Syria); Muslims rule Palestine (This is where it gets interesting because this is where a previously Jewish area, is now converted into Islam by an invading army)
* AD 1009: Caliph El-Hakim destroys Holy Sepulchre
* AD 1071: Seljuk Turks forbid Christians to enter Jerusalem
* AD 1095: Pope Urban II launches Crusades
* AD 1187: Saladin retakes Jerusalem
* AD 1188-92: Third Crusade under Richard I the Lionheart fails to retake Jerusalem but wins access for pilgrims.
* AD 1492: Jews expelled from Spain (a Muslim country at that time)
* AD 1537: Suleyman the Magnificent orders new walls and gates built around Jerusalem
Skip ahead:
* 1917: British General Allenby captures Jerusalem from the Turks. Balfour declaration issued: "His Majesty's government favourable views the creation of a national Jewish home in Palestine." (the area formally known as Israel before it was invaded and was still home to the Jews)
Well we know the rest. That damn history keeps getting in the way of trolls like you making a point doesn't it.
And if Netanyahu is a sociopath, what the hell do you call the jackasses running the rest of the region. Most of them have their positions because they were born onto them, the rest took power militarily.
I didn't even think about the Soviet airlifts. The Soviets had a vested interest in seeing their client states come out on top, and wouldn't just let the Arabs fail after practically handing them so much advanced hardware for nothing.
In a way Yom Kippur was almost a bigger victory than the Six Day War, since this time it was the Israelis caught off guard, and they still triumphed.
Thanks for backing up my point. Hits the nail on the head.
Your laughable argument is shallow as is your cause. Hate rules your heart and nothing else. The American people know a hell of a lot more of what is going on in the world than simple minded fools like you who live a thousand years in the past. Grow a pair and own up to the hate man.
You have a mistake.
In 1492, the Jews were expelled from the Catholic nation of Castille-Aragon by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella.
The last Muslim country in Spain, the Emirate of Cordoba, had been conquered earlier that year.
The head of Israel's intell operations woke Golda Mier up ('73 Yom Kippur) and told her it was coming. He asked for permission to start to fully mobilize (it was the middle of the night) and the P.M. had to make the agonizing decision to let the Arabs fire the opening shots.
The reason? You STILL see trolls here claiming that the "Six Days War" was started by Israel in an ambush – which is crap – Israel intell found out an coordinated attack was imminent and the IAF TOOK OUT Egypts Air Force – on the ground – in 1967.
Mier was tortured by having to wait but knew that the U.N. and the rest of the anti-Israel cabal would call Israel the aggressor – falsely but technically – and she didn't want that.
Sound familiar?
Highly unlikely?. Says who. Your crowd has been spouting that mantra for as long as I can remember and still to your dismay Israel stands as strong as ever. Where do you place God and what hand does he play in this scheme of yours?
I noticed that too late.
The Edict of Expulsion was issued on March 31, 1492 and Granada fell in January 1492. For some reason I had it reversed.
Trust no one Miss Mulder.
I am shocked and disgusted that Helen Thomas would say such a hurtful thing about Germans and Poles. It's good she was forced to resign.
I bet I know something about world events and current world events and I've been abroad relatively recently and can effectively debate you on the facts of what's happening in Europe, the M.E. or any subject you choose.
The "world" is spring loaded to blame Israel (as the video from the Med clearly showed) and anti-Semitism is always bubbling just below the surface. Israel is the historic ancient homeland of the Jews, Jews have lived there uninterupted since pre-Biblical times (except for a few centuries in Egypt – where they choose to go, then became enslaved, and during the Babylonian enslavement about 400 BC or so) and were there all through the centuries of the Ottoman Empire.
It's said that the forces of evil (i.e. Islam in my understanding) will meet on the plains of Miggido and a great battle and conflagration will end the world, the "End of Time" story , Revelation. finito` – done. You sound like a merchant of that evil, huh Achmed?
btw, blame the Nazi collaborator Husseini aka the Grand Mufti for the Palestinian's plight. The Mufti TURNED DOWN an equitable 50/50 split of the Jews OWN homeland and it's been "game on" since then. A "game" the Arabs/Muslims have been LOSING spectacularly since 1948.
Israel KICKING Arab/Muslim ASS is like the rising sun. You can set a clock to it. It's perpetual. Arabs/Muslims SUCK at wars and fighting. Like a bunch of little school girls, that's why they went the terror route.
You have NO IDEA what you are talking about, no clue.
I've said this a dozen times in the past 2 days:
Ding! Dong! The wicked witch is dead!
Now, someone else on the Big sites has also picked up the mantra of this song. You go, girl!
God, the lengths that a leader, any leader, of a civilized western society has to go to in order to placate the politically correct insane asylum known as the UN is frightening, especially since it boils down to the very survival of one's state, as it did in Meir's case.
She was an extraordinary woman, born in the Ukraine, grew up in Wisconsin, made Aliyah and became an Israeli diplomat, politician and eventually prime minister, and saw her country through the grimmest crisis of its entire existence so far.
You'll probably be able to get online quite a bit, what with Wi-Fi hot spots popping up everywhere. Hell, even my local McDonalds is now a wi-fi hotspot.
Hope to hear from you soon, my friend! Stay safe, and have fun, whatever you're doing.
Prolly Keith Olberman. /snark/
Thank you for pointing this out, but it has been going on for so long that people are numb to how Israel is treated. Only in recent months do we see people waking up…hopefully.
Its cool. I just wanted to note it before one of the apologists tried jumping on it to "prove" everything else was wrong. It is just, as you note, the short version.
What would a dedicated enemy do to take down America? WWII and the cold war showed it could not be done by direct force or intimidation, so the next attempt is to do it internally. Weaken the things that make America strong, abandon our allies, attack the strength of the dollar, nationalize key businesses, socialize health care, and subject a society that supports freedom and the rights of all citizens to Marxism.
Most Americans don’t realize we have elected a president whom we know very little about. Researchers have discovered that Obama’s autobiographical books are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record.
Obama is a Muslim… http://usataxpayer.org/?0019422256
Islam – The Religion of Peace… http://usataxpayer.org/?0088070911
Unbelievable, on The Steve Malzberg Show, yesterday, Alan Combs would not condemn this person. This is so wrong! Combs is so liberal I can't stand to listen to him.
Great point!
(I know libs who think we deserved 9/11.)
The seat should remain vacant until a true journalist comes forth.
She just said out loud what the rest of the leftstream media only whispers to themselves when they're sure only other anti-semites are around.
Indeed, the selective outrage is glaring. Sure, I'm happy to see the haggish Helen Thomas go, but I sure don't hear anyone demanding the head of Pat Buchanan. Some of his anti-Semitic rants are just as odious.
Actually, one small issue that has been mentioned before. By 1492, the Muslims had all but been kicked out of the Iberian. Indeed, in 1492, they had been reduced to a single city, Granada, that would surrender in the January of that year. The Iberian was divided into the Catholic kingdoms of Spain and Portugal like it is today. The actual expulsion took place later (from Februrary unofficially and March officially to June more or less), under the direction of the Catholic monarchs.
I don't mean to whitewash the Moorish occupation or the history of Islamist tyranny, but this is one crime that cannot be attributed to them, and indeed many Jews (for whatever reason) actually fled INTO the Muslim territories (most of the Jewish communities in Morocco were formed then).
See above, BZ and I had corrected it, not in great detail.
I was doing the list too quick and reversed the Edict of Exile and the fall of Granada which meant I also reversed who issued the Edict but thanks for pointing it out.
Unfortunately, so do I. Thanks for the thumbs up.
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