I’m not a birther, but the left is not helping their cause by hysterically mischaracterizing anyone who disagrees with the President on policy – or even asks why it took him three years to release a birth certificate – as a racist.
Yesterday morning during our CNN discussion on the birth certificate issue, James Carville said that the birther issue is a census of idiocy for America. I disagree. Playing the race card is the census of idiocy in America.
Yahoo has graciously provided the example.
The article begins by acknowledging how many Democrats questioned John McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal zone. Apparently, it isn’t racist to question that of McCain. Despite Yahoo’s best effort to sweep this forced acknowledgment under the rug with a simple “but that died down,” it in fact, did not die down because the left was satisfied with the answer (they made a sensational amount of hoopla over the issue). It died down because the left was both faced with the hypocrisy of making a charge while claiming offense over the same charge and they wanted to be the only victim for sympathy and fundraising. The media did more to cover John McCain’s birther story and George Bush’s SAT scores than it did evaluating Obama’s backstory, like they’ve done with past presidents. That’s what this is truly about.
A vast array of evidence attests to Obama’s citizenship–including a certificate of live birth, signed affidavits from people who viewed Obama’s long-form birth certificate, confirmation by Hawaiian officials, and independent investigations by news outlets. Nevertheless, “this thing just keeps going” as Obama said this morning.
Frankly, I couldn’t give a damn about the birth certificate. However, the only thing that has “kept this going” has been the President himself, by dragging it out for three years when he could have shut everyone up during the campaign. But seeing as Democrats launch fundraising emails every time the word “birth certificate” is uttered and seeing how they, in conjunction with the government propaganda machine, has been able to use this to increase Obama’s sympathy factor, they didn’t want it to go away. From a strategic standpoint, I don’t know why he at least didn’t hold it out for an October surprise.
Many critics of the birther movement say its core tenets–and its stubborn resistance to evidence disproving those beliefs–can be traced to racial hostilities. The fundamental birtherist conviction, these critics say, is that an African-American can’t have legitimately won the presidency–and that his elevation to power therefore has to be the result of an elaborate subterfuge.
“There is a real deep-seated and vicious racism at work here in terms of trying to de-legitimate the president,” Peniel Joseph, a professor of history at Tufts University, told The Ticket.
If that’s true, then birthers would hate Allen West, Cedra Crenshaw, Issac Hayes, Michael Steele, Condoleezza Rice, and so forth, but they don’t. The people who do hate the names I just mentioned are the left, who’ve spoken at length calling black conservatives “uncle Toms.” So yes, race is absolutely an issue, and it’s well-documented from the left towards black conservatives.
Of course, the left will seize on any dissent as a way to inflame racial tensions so that they can cast their political opponents as racists and emotionally blackmail minority communities into voting for Democrats – who’ve done such a fabulous job governing the cities which they represent. Just look at education and the high employment in St. Louis, Detroit, DC, Baltimore … oh, wait.
The new definition of racism is simply disagreeing with the President. According to this logic, simply disagreeing with the policies of a black politician is racist. This would make most everyone in the media, all the Democrats, and this woman, Nicole Sandler, racists.
Ah, but disagreeing with, say, Allen West, isn’t racist though. Why? Because he doesn’t support the patriarchal Democratic party, the home of the KKK. We live in an era where the party that bore white hoods and lynching has convinced the very communities it persecuted and the females it oppressed that its dressed up policies are different from what they were in the era of segregation.
What a mindjob.
Of course, when you point this out, you’re racist. Or a sexist. An istist. It’s the laziest go-to argument. The left has successfully adopted a Marxist-term and used it as a shield in formulating solid debate against ideological differences. It was the left that made the campaign all about race despite its insistence that it would not, it’s the left who called dissent “patriotic” yet now label dissent as racist.
When the left and their friends, the media, measure the underscoring of mainstream bias as being more offensive than calling for the murder of a black Supreme Court justice, beating a black man in a parking lot because he’s profiled as a conservative, or regularly slurring black conservatives as “uncle Toms,” no one can ever take their attacks with the birth certificate seriously.







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Speaking of "the race card"..
Father Pfleger has been suspended by the Archdiocese of Chicago. http://www.archdiocese-chgo.org/cardinal/letter/F...
Spread the word.
They say, that election 2012 will be solely about race.
This, by the first "Post-Racial" President.
The Roots of Obama’s Rage reveals Obama for who he really is: a man driven by the anti-colonial ideology of his father and the first American president to actually seek to reduce America’s strength, influence, and standard of living. Controversial and compelling, The Roots of Obama’s Rage is poised to be the one book that truly defines Obama and his presidency.
"The administration of justice is the firmest pillar of government."George Washington
This is one of her monologues from yesterday. Do yourself a favor and go to the Dana Show page at 971talk.com and listen to her give it. I love listening to this woman.
FINALLY! How this man is a priest, I'll never know!
ObamaCare and the $900 billion stimulus plan are the only 'achievements' Obama can really point to right now, other than regulatory actions like shutting down Gulf oil drilling. None of that is polling great guns with the general public, so when you have no meaningful positive accomplishments, the economy remains mired in recession, gas prices are double what they were when you took office and foreign policy is muddled at best, you really have no choice but to run a negative campaign.
Combine that with the fact that the race card was always part of Team Obama's strategy. Fear of being branded a racist for opposing anything Obama did was key to the Democrats' efforts to get all their pet projects enacted into law between 2009-10, and when it came to inside-the-Beltway GOP politicians, it worked perfectly. They all but silenced any opposition to their plans in Congress, but they just got blindsided by the Tea Party movement because it had no definitive leader to demonize as a racist, and they couldn't sell the idea to the public that everyone involved in the Tea Party was racist.
But that doesn't mean the more persistent/less inventive among them haven't stopped trying. They have no other ideas to promote Obama's record in a positive way and Obana so far has no other proposals that are looked on positively by the moderate swing voters he needs to win re-election. So the only thing left is to just keep plucking that race card and hope by November 2012 you can scare the swing voters into believing re-electing Obama is the lesser of two evils.
Well, Obama several times accused McCain of being racist. So why ruin something that seems to work.
Perfect example of false equivalence. Even respected Constitutional experts acknowledged that McCain's candidacy, given his birth outside the 50 US states, would settle an open question of law. Only the law was in question, not the facts. That contrasts with Obama situation, in which 50% of Republicans are too stupid and racist to accept the obvious fact of Obama's birth in Hawaii.
As the article correctly states, and you attempt to dance around: "When a bipartisan pair of lawyers announced the following month that McCain was indeed eligible, the issue virtually died."
Given a reasonable analysis of the law, those Democrats who had been skeptical dropped the issue. Contrast that with the dullards on the right who, even after additional airtight proof is provided them, still deny the legitimacy of the president's citizenship.
Who's playing the race card? I think it's Dana Loesch and her ilk, and NOT Liberals.
Here is my favorite passage from Dinesh D'Sousa's book:
" Think about what this means. The most powerful country in the world is being governed according to the dreams of a Lau tribesman of the 1950's – a polygamist who abandoned his wives, drank himself into stupors, and bounced around on two iron legs (after his real legs had to be amputated after a car crash), raging against the world for denying him the realization of his anti-colonial ambitions. This philandering, inebriated, African socialist is now setting the nations agenda through the reincarnation of of his dreams in his son. The son is the one who is making it happen, but the son is, as he candidly admits, only living out his fathers dreams. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is being governed by a ghost."
Chapter 10
Page 198
The Last Colonial
THAT, is powerful.
It's not self evident? lol
Anti-colonial? You mean like Washington and Jefferson? Are you pro-colonial? Are you for denying people self-determination and individual liberty? Who, in their right mind, is not anti-colonial? Why would someone who was anti-colonial be compelled to reduce America's power? Since when is America colonial?
Does Libya suggest to you that Obama sees no utility in US power? Does his ramping up of the war in Afghanistan suggest that he wants to reduce America's influence? How can a thinking person draw those conclusions?
Ah yes, when this country has such a GREAT UNITER like Obama expect nothing less from the left playing the Race Card while spewing mean-spirited, uncivil HATRED as regards the Right. Friggin' BIGOTS.
As long as he was willing to serve the church faithfully and do as instructed, he was OK. He didn't cross the lines of pederasty or financial malfeasance. But now he misrepresented an offer of serving at another facility and made the issue public, and threatened to leave the Church, so he has been suspended. And the Bishop was 100% right in his reasoning behind the suspension.
Father Pfleger has put himself and his own desires before Christ and before the Church. He's no longer able to function in his pastoral duties.
OK now let me get this straight. Pointing out race baiting is now evidence of racism. Thanks for setting me straight. NOT!
Pfleger DOES have the rebellious spirit, I'll say that much.
No problem. Let's get busy and step up behind Herman Cain – the fair tax would heal our country, bring jobs back from overseas and circumvent the ability of those cretins in congress to manipulate the tax code in order to secure donations and support from their cronies. None of the other contenders (except Palin) will dare to step up and speak out against the Obamanation. As for Palin, let's put her in charge of the Department of Interior and drill, baby, drill, baby, drill.
BwaaaHaaaFriggenHaaa!
An alcoholic, grievance-mongering, entitlement-minded, colonial-hating ghost.
Awesome.
Well, he probably is surprised himself by the unhinged racism of the right. It used to be a fringe thing. Now even moderate Republicans have to play to the bigots in the peanut gallery. The good news is, America never elects the angry guy. And grassroots Republicans won't elevate anyone except the angry guy.
I like Herman Cain.
I have followed him closely for several years now.
I decided over a year ago, before many people had even heard his name, that I would support him.
No, it's Bob Shieffer.
Can I get an English-usage ruling on "de-legitimate?" Dying over here. Dying.
The Constitution of the United States
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Are you really that stupid or is this the new JournOlist talking points? Keep on Progressing down that road. And when there is no more road, be sure to keep on going.
Uh, for the record, it's always been a "fringe thing." The difference is that the left needs ammo to fit its meme of raaaaacism apart from "facts" and "actual events."
And between Angry Guy and Abject Lightweight, gimme Team Angry Guy any day.
Stop saying "fair tax".
Stop it right now.
You should know that ANYTHING labelled "fair" is NOT going to be equitable.
I think what you mean to promote is the FLAT tax, which taxes everyone at the exact same rate.
Please, please, PLEASE don't buy into any more government programs with the word "fair" or "equal" attached to them. Those are code words for wealth redistribution.
What about Col. West?
Cain/West or West/Cain?
That's way above "progressings" paygrade.
Right after Obama was inagurated his approval rating was around 68% Using what has become the Left's standard for gauging racism, that made 32% of American's Racist.. Now after 27 months of the Great Uniter, using the left's definition, 55% percent of us are racists….. almost an eighty percent increase.
They might want to rethink who they're calling racists, and why, before the next election
Wow. You must be very close to Hillary to know that she secretly harbors doubts about Obama's legitimacy. One would think that she might have thought twice about serving in his cabinet then.
Baseless speculation and mindless fantasy. This is as close as you rightards come to facts. You're a joke.
Here is what it is about.
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer
No, that's just badly written pseudo-academic dross.
Dreams From My Father is in fact a narrative of Obama's NON-relationship with his father. While Obama goes on about his father's misfortunes — many of them clearly self-inflicted — in Kenya, there is no evidence for the claim that the elder Obama bequeathed his son a coherent or even a partial political philosophy
Dinesh also argued in his other book that the "left" was responsible for the 9/11 attacks; most people laughed at that, including VDH.
You're just embarrassing yourself.
I like this little paragraph I picked up from someone else on another comments board.
"All of you who needed to vote for this Failed Experiment to prove that you are not a racist need to vote for any one but this Failed Social Experiment to prove your not a complete idiot in 2012."
"gimme Team Angry Guy any day"
Precisely. Thanks for backing me up. You can't help yourselves. Your mindless rage will lead you over a cliff.
Airtight? Airtight is furnishing that live birth log from the delivery room: the actual log with handwritten notes. I've shared EIC's opinion on this from the beginning. Your definition of "airtight" would have gotten you killed if you were a Kurd in close proximity to Saddam Hussein.
F*** where this joker was delivered. We just want to send him back to where he was delivered. COD!
English is like the Constitution. It's living.
It's a relatively new word, usually used without the hyphen, but it's common enough to be in the dictionary.
It beats "refudiate."
If there was an argument in that comment, I missed it.
All I see is a monkey throwing feces, while berating the other monkeys for throwing feces more accurately.
You are not the least self-aware are you?
More delusion from the peanuts in the basement. You are a liar. You on the left live, eat, sleep and fester in racism. Your world is nothing but giving and taking according to the color of ones skin. Your mentors reap millions and get rich from slinging the word around.
I'm pretty sure that once Hillary lost to Obama, that group of her supporters PUMA (Party Unity My A$$) began circulating this information…so…the comments above are neither baseless, nor mindless.
the "joke" is that it appears that DontTreadOnMe was far closer to facts than you were.
hilarious, the irony…
I think Dana's article shows how little the left has got to work with. People who disagree with this president and administration, and the way they choose to govern, have to be racist. Right? I mean it's all for the children and the old people and the planet, blah, blah, blah…
Keep up the comments about racism, every time you say it and post it, it means less and less. The people who dislike the things happening in the country, are, first and foremost, patriots.
We abhor the idea that our children and grandchildren will be paying the price of these failed experiments for the rest of their lives, and, in case you haven't noticed, we're pissed. We will all work towards getting the people who did this out of office, and their color,sex, religion has no impact on it.
You want to spend us into bankruptcy, we are going to try to vote you out of office. Simple as that.
Obama didn't finish HIS Senate term, now, did he?
Maybe we misheard?
Maybe it was "Most Racial" and not "Post Racial".
Wow, you must be very close to all the Democrats harboring skepticism over the place-of-birth issue to know that they've dropped it instead of just kept their concerns quiet.
As far as serving as SoS goes, you should know that one of the most dangerous places in America is between Hillary and a higher seat of power.
Here's a joke for ya:
What's black and white and red all over?
Obama!
And you can have the abject lightweight bicycle helmet wearing 0bama who bows and coddles our enemies. Your metrosexual fingernail polishing men need to man up and do the right thing which is get out of the way and let real Americans do whats best for America. 0bama has destroyed this country and if you don't see that then your the one being led over a cliff. But then again maybe you like what your messiah is doing.
Yeah. The muslim world just hates to death the conservative christian and just loves the porn and filth of hollywood you so adore. Get real.
The problem here is the the usage in the adjective form.
The term would seem to mean "to make not legitimate" or "to remove legitimacy" as in "it once was legitimate and now it's not". If that's the case, it should be in verb form: delegitimatize.
Progressing, you get a thumb down for saying the Constitution is "living". That's a code word for saying "it says what I want it to say". Which means it doesn't say anything.
I hope "deligitimate" is not being used by anyone, and I REALLY hope it is not being used as a verb.
I prefer the old standard "illegitimate", as in "many of President Obama's actions are illegitimate".
"Progressing's claim to be the judge of what is common or better in terms of grammatical useage is illegitimate."
It can also be used in another sense. "President Obama may be the illegitimate son of Barack Hussein Obama".
Agreed.
I'd prefer he didn't finish his term as president….
Yeah, and I'd settle for Biden….
"Irregardless" is essentially a double negative.
"Refudiate" is a witty combination of the words "refute" and "repudiate", two words which mean to prove false and to reject the validity of, respectively.
Proggy doesn't like it 'cause it's a witticism created by an attractive, smart, self-sufficient conservative woman. Proggy is jealous and angry!
You Progressive A-holes want it to be alive, so you can kill it….
I doubt that my comments will cause any lefties to take pause and reconsider their position on this but I will say it anyway.
Every time I hear one of you on TV or on the web calling someone out as racist I listen carefully, and really try to understand your point. In the end I am always left with the same conclusion. You are the only racist that I can find. You've got race on the brain. You are race maniacs. It's just like the guy (we all know one) who no matter what your talking about he somehow always turns the conversation to sex. The point you were making to this guy had absolutely nothing to do with sex and yet sex is all this guy takes away from the conversation. Guys like this have sex on the brain and are often sexist. We call them sex maniacs, and in the same respect you are race maniacs and often racist.
Usual Tea Party comment consisting of generalized melodramatic assumptions which have nothing to do with the point being made and only serve to make you look even more ignorant if that's possible.Tea Party reality: there are NO liberal Christians, no liberals who actually contribute to society, ALL liberals love porn, ALL liberals are communists or socialists, blah, blah, blah.—
…and because that guy is always thinking about sex, he assumes everyone must be thinking about it too, and he accuses everyone else of being a sex fiend.
You mean the former Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis who came out against auditing the Fed? That Herman Cain.
He was chairman of Godfathers for how many presidential terms? And he got his butt kicked by every other pizza chain. Is that the same track record of leadership and innovation we can expect if he is elected?
I've got some funny personal Cain stories. I'll tell them to you sometime. They all end the same way: Cain spending other people's money promoting Cain.
Moreover, Senator Obama only won his seat because he got his opponents kicked off the ballot. It wasn't even much of an election, was it? I recall that chicago had to drag in poor old Alan Keyes as an opponent.
Any serious opposition or challenge and Obama folds like a Chinese lawn chair.
Well, you know, as long as he's "pretty sure." Of course we've already established that you'll believe anything that accords with your own flawed view of the world, haven't we?
Yes. We have.
Me too. Biden isn't willfully destructive. He's just dumb as a rock.
He sure folded over Trump.
Maybe you should kill him. Like you threatened to do to me because we disagreed. I notice you've failed to address your little threat to me.
I'm not surprised. True believers seem to believe they operate without impunity.
Dana , you just don't get it. If Allen West, Cedra Crenshaw, Issac Hayes, Michael Steele, or Condoleezza Rice become POTUS, the birthers will find something wrong with them also.
Racism has nothing to do with political ideology, or education or morals, it is based on skin color.
If you do not like obama, it is fine. To say he is not qualified to be president because he is not a natural born citizen without understanding the legal precedence for what qualifies as a natural born citizen makes me think your problem with Obama is based on his skin color, not his policy.
I grew up in the Jim Crow, segregated south, none of the racists then thought they were racist. They thought that was how things were supposed to be
I love the "NO YOU'RE THE RACISTS" argument.
Your complete divorce from reality never ceases to make me laugh.
Speaking of Biden, where is he lately?
You: "Your metrosexual fingernail polishing men need to man up and do the right thing which is get out of the way and let real Americans do what's best for America."
Me: What does it say about you "real Americans" that you can't get a bunch of "metrosexual fingernail polishing men" out of your way? It suggests to me that, for a bunch of gun toting, sheet wearing manly men, you sure are a pack of pussies.
Good analogy.
Sex addicts, ex-smokers, ex-drinkers, raciscts.
All the same modus operandi.
I like a lot of ideas in it, I'm just worried about this "progressive national sales tax on spending". What does that mean? Do I pay more for sales tax on a motorcycle than my neighbor?
And don't get me wrong- it looks WAY better than the current system we have. I guess I shouldn't be letting perfection get in the way of improvement….
I never said that.
You are a liar.
I said that when the line was drawn and the chips were down, I'd wish you were directly in front of me.
That is what I said.
For him, bending over comes naturally….
GIBSON–you are the racist.. OH THAT WAS EASY… i SEE WHY THEY SAY IT ALL THE TIME….
you ARE racist,
You: "Proggy doesn't like it 'cause it's a witticism created by an attractive, smart, self-sufficient conservative woman."
Me: Really? I thought it was coined by Sarah Palin.
Regardless, no amount of lipstick will convince me that refudiate is not a porker of a word.
prog–YOU ARE RACIST I HAVE CONTACTED THE ANTI DEFAMATION LEAGUE ABOUT YOUR ACTIVITIES
Oh, so Obama was abandoned by his deadbeat dad and now he has issues with authority and he's acting out in a rageful adolescent manner against white people because his mom replaced his real dad with some other guy?
Yeah, that does make a lot of sense too.
"makes me think your problem with Obama is based on his skin color, not his policy. "
It's because liberals i.e. subjectivism, base thought and knowledge on emotions rather than logic and reason.
No one said that; it's not written anywhere. That's YOUR sentiment, born out of your anti-TEA party bigotry and hatred. You don't know anything about any of us at all. And that's how you need it to stay.
"Does Libya suggest to you that Obama sees no utility in US power? "
Absolutely not. Samantha Powers knows that war is to be used if it will further the goals of Progressivism. She and Hillary made Obama go to Libya.
Hey willi,
Is it Obama's black half or his white half that we are racist against?
Of course it's written by Tea Party people…it's all over the Big Sites forums.Liberals are parasites, don't pay taxes, try to steal your money, hate God, hate America, are socialists, communists, want to destroy it, etc. Even Helen Keller would have no problem seeing this.
Skin thinner than a grape's and a spine like overcooked spaghetti.
If you REALLY cared about someone spending other people's money to promote himself, well, you'd be against everyone elected to political office, wouldn't you?
And???
Are you really that stupid? Did you even read the article? Its the left that ALWAYS brings up race as an issue. They need to frighten the blacks in order to keep them voting for the Democrats.
Ok, if Obama is a natural born citizen, does it make his policies any better? It is the the birthers who are filled with the emotion of hate rather than logic and reason.
I've been told that Cowboy is Zell Miller's bastard son; he has a fondness for dueling just like the old man.
Like I thought, you do not argue the facts , you try to deflect the issue. Learn what natural born citizen means from a legal perspective.
Don't have any details other than it was self-inflicted….
Most of them are. 43% of Americans pay no income tax, think their tax rates are "about right" get EIC which equal MORE THAN they pay in refunded income tax (that IS stealing my money), think that America is "unfair" (and who loves an unfair country?), and are either ambivalent or agnostic about God and morality.
Those aren't MY opinions- that's Rasmussen polling data and FIC data. Go look it up.
Like the way you're very close to 50% of Republicans and know that they are both "stupid" and "racist". Indulging in a little "(b)aseless speculation and mindless fantasy" yourself?
And just what is so obvious and factual about Obama having been born in Hawaii? Is it the witnesses? The doctor on the BC is dead. What about nurses, interns or even candy stripers? Were there hospital bills? What about other women having babies around that time? Surely, a woman in the hospital having a baby would have run into his mother. So far the only person to have actually claimed to be present, said it happened in Kenya. If his own family can't agree on where he was born, what are we supposed to think?
It would have to be….
You're right. Obama is acting out against middle-class and wealthy blacks too. And he's not too crazy about Asians, either.
and if his love of this country were gasoline, he wouldn't have enough to prime a termite's chainsaw….
You're doing it yourself. All Tea PArty people are racists, all Tea Party people think these things about the left. All Tea Party people are rubes….
Blah, blah, blah….
That is completely absurd. You have no evidence that eligibility questions have anything to do with race. And your supposition (stated as fact — absurdly) that questioners would question black conservatives as well is completely unfounded. You live on a planet of your imaginations. Your post is truly bizarre.
what does anyone's view of the world have to do with anything? I simply refuted the idea that the statements above are baseless and fanatical.
I fail to see how this establishes anything, aside from your own willingness to blindly follow that which you have been told, rather than to do 30 seconds worth of research on your own.
and you know this for FACT because you know so many birthers. Yeah. Nothing like false assumptions to make a troll look like a blithering idiot. That and opining on subjects you know nothing about.
what deflection? You accuse us of racism, then refuse to deal with the backlash.
Most decks have 52 cards. Different values and rankings. The Libturds have 52 of the same card….The King of A$$hats.
Strawman. Who on the left says every anti-Obama voter is a racist? Hardly. Most of you are simply feeble and uninformed. And a good portion of you just pine for someone to make you feel OK about ignoring all that "caring for the least among us" stuff in the bible. You know, greedy.
Oh, and a big portion are islamophobes, which is bigoted, but not, strictly speaking, racist. Although I suppose many Republicans fall into more than one category.
Hope that clears up our position.
Yes, please get behind Hermain Cain. Puhleeze do.
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