Media Matters appears fixated on a mission to try and silence the free speech of Big Journalism editor Dana Loesch, while also engaging upon a campaign to somehow damage her with CNN. True to their Leftist origins, it never seems enough for them to disagree, or even take offense, at someone, or something, they invariably resort to attempting to silence them. Such thuggish tactics have no place in media, least of all in America. Perhaps they are mis-named.
Now, they’d like their readers to believe that somehow Rush Limbaugh has rejected Loesch’s comments. But that’s simply not true.
Certainly, Limbaugh has his own opinion, one that MMfA would likely desire to shut down every bit as much as they now seem intent on silencing Loesch. However, Limbaugh also took to task the very type of over-reaction in which Media Matters is now engaged, over-reaction that was Loesch’s original point. Evidently, MMfA is too blinded by their mission to realize Limbaugh may as well have been speaking directly to them, given their current misguided efforts aimed at Loesch. Emphasis mine.
Well, there’s a video, nobody knows how old it is, of some U.S. Marines urinating on the bodies of Taliban combatants in Afghanistan. Peed on them. And of course it’s Marines. It violated the rules. There’s no defense of this. The overreaction of this is nuts, but still it happened.
It’s worth noting that, while obsessively attacking Loesch in post after post, they’ve yet to acknowledge the comments of Representative Alan West (Fl).
I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.
All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?
The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.
As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.
MMfA also ignored the scores of other conservatives who’ve said the same, some beyond, Loesch’s original point on reaction.
And what we should be saying: “Let this be a lesson to everyone of you subhumans who plots against America and tries to kill American citizens. We don’t give a damn who you are! We don’t give a damn what you believe! And we don’t give a damn if you’re offended! Because we’re going to hunt you down and kill you and then humiliate you after you’re killed!
While I haven’t spoken to Dana regarding the incident, along with her own response, there are some comments I would add as someone who enjoys talk radio from time-to-time. As a form of entertainment, or info-tainment, if you prefer, talk radio often engages in hyperbole to touch and expose emotions in a manner a bit more raw than one might expect from news, or on a CNN. Given the tragedy of 9/11 and the American lives lost in the War on Terror since, it should be no surprise to anyone that there are Americans who harbor great anger at terrorists and forces like the terror-supporting Taliban who continue to target and kill Americans to this day. That Loesch would seek to tap into, or channel such real emotions as part of her program should not only not be shocking, it should not be viewed as some terrible offense.
Yesterday on my radio show I discussed the topic of the Marines videotaping themselves urinating on dead Taliban fighters. The usual mob of progressive haters started campaigning on Twitter and complaining to CNN.
The alternative, to ignore, or in fact, try to silence such sentiments does nothing to further honest discussion of the challenges America faces today in a dangerous world, nor does it do anything to relieve the pressure of said emotions many a good American most surely feels deep inside. Yet, instead of any serious discussion, all MMfA seems intent on doing is drumming up controversy, while attempting to silence a vibrant voice of the Right in opposition to them.
Silencing any opposition is precisely what religious extremists like the Taliban attempt to do within areas of their control. That MMfA would pick up that same tactic in voicing whatever protest it may, or may not honestly feel about Loesch’s remarks, is to no credit of theirs, nor is it appropriate in a free American society such as our own. It is repression, not free speech that gives rise to forces like the Taliban and MMfA should think better of it before launching upon their next media-based jihad.







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This issue of the Marines urinating on corpses will die quickly because George W. Bush is no longer Commander in Chief. The media are not interested in tracing culpability for this incident up the chain of command.
Note there has been virtually no commentary about this video becoming a “recruiting tool.”
I agree with Allen West, he is not only saying shut up he is also saying that the soldiers actions should be handled within the Military. Far worse has happened in every war. Generally, I said GENERALLY, and histotorically, the Americans are the most merciful, and the least vindictive soldiers in the world. The exceptions are well known precisely because they are unusual.
What? No outrage by the left against Obama for the "torture" of taliban corpses by the Marines. In the Article it was mentioned that we do not "know how old the tape is". This leaves open the door to blame Bush yet again. What hypocracy, just what I expect.
Nobama 2012
When does the 56(?) consecutive days of coverage of this incident, w/prominent mention of Obama and his administration, start appearing on PAGE ONE of the NewYorkTimes?
Hillary, Podesta are a pair of disgraced idiots……………..she stood in the kleiglights of public humiliation when Billy boy was doing the cigar thing with Monica, she lied in public about being under fire when landing in Bosnia, she lied when she said she had no political ambition beyond being a member of the Senate…………Podesta is just a bag man for Obama and should be ashamed to show his face in public. Their complicity in the ongoing efforts of party democrat to gut the military putting this nation at peril is on full display, from delaying the process by which absentee ballots from the combat zones to prevent those ballots from counting in an election to castigating the military at every opportunity……they an their supporters should rot in hell.
Can't wait until we pee on this administration in November!
Weren't many on the Left cheering the capture, torture and killing of Gaddafi? Weren't many of those same Left whining because Obama wasn't getting his deserved credit for said killing?
Giving Obama credit for killing Gaddafi would be giving him credit for desecration/sodomy of Gaddafi, no?
Yet, they are outraged that dead Taliban were pee'd on. Something that is done in war since the beginning of war, and is a coping mechanism. Any opportunity to hate on the troops, it seems.
I really dont see the big deal here, However, Since The President is seeking to release several Taliban bigshots from Guantanamo Bay–Its almost as if the Marines pissed on our newest and bestest friends?
I happen to think that if you haven't been in their shoes, don't judge them. What they have been through is so far outside civilian norms. It is our perspective on this that really isn't sufficient to comprehend what they were feeling that made them do this. How many of them almost died by Taliban bullets? How many watched friends dismembered by Taliban bombs? They WILL be judged, and by people who HAVE been in their shoes – they will face a court martial and fellow marines will judge their actions and they will have a proper frame of reference to make the judgement call. That is good enough for me.
Barbaric is flying airplanes into skyscrapers at high speed and murdering thousands in the name of a "religion". I say those Marines who pissed on the Taliscum should have a medal and a parade.
Amen.
Prosecute him for treason. He meets every criteria for a traitor. So does Holder.
While we're at it. Pelosi stating that 'you have to pass the Bill in order to know what's in it' is an illegal statement which goes along with her illegal pushing of that Illegal ObamaCommieCare!
Also Harry Reid's Nevada election needs to be investigated minute by minute. Lots of material there……etc.etc…
HaHaHa, Good one. We won't hold our breath for that one. Is it true that the NYTimes is going out of business?…. maybe commie propaganda doesn't hold clout anymore since Obama exposed US to how it is to actually live under, and be oppressed by a commie Regime and tactics.
I don't see what the big deal is here.
It is widely known that urine is a cure for a jellyfish sting.
Not to ignore the incident, the media response is 'old hat'; find anything to tear down the greatest, the most generous, the most humane nation in history.
The Marines pissed on the Taliban because there were no reporters handy.
I'm more curious about who took the video, who released it and how it got in the hands of the leftists. Watch your back Marines.
Anyone who studies the history of ideas should notice how much more often people on the political left, more so than others, denigrate and demonize those who disagree with them — instead of answering their arguments.
I feel the Marines punishment should be all the ham sandwiches they can eat and all the beer they can drink.
Just how much do you think muslims would scream if you treated them like they treat others. What if we treated their mosques like they treat other religions places of worship in muslim countries.
Where is the leftist indignation and outrage when little girls right here in this country are murdered by their own fathers and brothers and they call this "honor" killings?!!!!!!!! Where is the leftist indignation and outrage when women and children are buried to their shoulders and stoned to death?!!!!!!!!! Where is the leftist indignation and outrage that 13 American Soldiers were slaughtered at Ft Hood by Major Hasan, "the enemy within" and this President cowardly calls this "workplace violence"?!!!!!!!!!! It was a TERRROIST ATTACK but the left and this President dangerously continue to appease terrorists and their terorism of all of us! Where is the leftist indignation that this terrorist is still being paid by our tax dollars??!!!!
God knows what our Soldiers have seen in their tours of duty but I'll bet peeing on corpses would be considered child's play to what they have seen Al Qaeda and the Taliban do.
Dana Loesch is a fierce defender of our troops and I'll proudly stand with her anywhere, anytime!
Beverly Perlson
The Band of Mothers
I'm with Tammy Bruce! If the Taliban fighters WERE better fighters, they wouldn't be laying dead and getting peed on. To the victors go the spoils, to the losers, go the urinal mints.
Loesch is the smartest person they have on CNN. Which probably doesn't mean much to CNN since good ratings appear to be one of their lesser concerns. CNN's idea of smart commentary is Anderson Cooper giggling over the term "tea bagging" . The way he giggled suggested he might have intimate knowledge of the subject. The hysterical outrage over the Marines at war pausing to pee on dead Talibani soldiers tells us more about the left, what their top priority is, ie, bashing the military, and how utterly incapable they are of honest empathy. They could not imagine the hell of being at war. Snuggling in their favorite chair at their favorite espresso shop, they are too busy sipping their lattes, flipping their pony tails and endlessly complaining with nary a thought to what it takes to keep them safe to do just that.
YEA…What Alan West said. Why oh why are the non-combatant political members of this republic so "outraged". I shake my head in utter disgust….
Allen West has no moral authority to speak on this issue. West interrogated an Iraqi policeman and discharged his 9 mm pistol just above the policeman's head. West was charged with assault and violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The military decided not to court-martial him, which would have meant years in prison and a dishonorable discharge if convicted. Instead, he was given an administrative Article 32 hearing and fined $5,000 for misconduct and assault, and allowed to quietly retire. with full pension and benefits.
I'd have no problem with CNN firing Dana. The only reason I ever tune in to the crappy network is because of Big J EIC. You have to have one finger on the mute button or a puke bag when hearing their so called opposing – puckering up to PUPPET 44 errrrr – views
And I say that with full confidence that she would find a bigger fish to fry. Why eat canned tuna when you can have fresh opakapaka? Why eat boxed potato powder when you can have glazed sweet potato? Why eat at Arby's when you can have Kobe beef? Why…..
CNN should hire Julianne Moore. The catchit at CNN and the dogchit at HBO and the fishchit at Sony Corp. are a match made in the Beltway sewers.
And those desert jellyfish are THE WORST. Medals for those soldiers, now.
He saved American lives with his actions. Good for Col. West.
No remarks on this posting are needed – Alan West said it all.
“I feel nothing over the death of mercenaries. They aren’t in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.” – Markos Moulitsas
Said regarding the contractors whose bodies were burned, broken and hung from Baghdad bridges.
Good for him.
Doing what it takes is what wins a war – which is why no democrat administration has successfully prosecuted a war since ww2…..
Water sports seems a bit too gay for my tastes. Our new military I guess.
Now if they were to get some bacon grease or pig blood and pour it down the throat and noses to make the introduction to their virgins a bit more amusing would show more creativity.
Col West "As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell."
Nuff said.
Thanks for the coffee through the nostrils moment JBinID.It's jokes like yours that make me keep my keyboard at arms length.
Marine Corps facing the most cuts in the defense bill=Tape of Marines p*eing on Taliban being pulled out of storage,coincidence?
Don't worry. The minute a Republican is in the WH, this will once again surface…
Disingenuous to the core they are.
What do you call a freezer full of Media Matters posters?——–Frosted Flakes!
Media Matters could seriously change their name to "Wingnuts R Us" and they wouldnt be too far off!
He also immediately reported his actions to his superiors and handed himself over for whatever punishment they deemed appropriate. It's called MORAL COURAGE. He was willing to pay the cost of stopping the attacks on his men.
It's been suggested that I keep my keyboard three inches further than that.
Well said. I would add that those exceptions are also punished by our military, which cannot be said for our enemies.
You're right! I thought maybe they were on fire, and the Marines were trying to help.
What might have been wrong is if he had discharged his pistol INTO the policeman's head.
Just curious: From where do you derive YOUR moral authority to speak on this issue?
This incident is being reported relentlessly at NBC news. Still waiting for them to mention Fast and Furious though…..
"allowed to quietly retire. with full pension and benefits."
We all know what the man did and. unlike yourself…..why…
I'd follw Col West into a burnig building…..he is a leader
Bradley Manning again? Holy smokes that guy gets around, Charm!
Sadly, even the greatest military force on earth has it's weinies!
The truth is more likely one of the guys posted it on his Facebook account. The Youtube generation has infested the military too. When will people learn. Once posted, it never, ever goes away!
You didn't know, Charm? It's no secret Anderson does, indeed, have first hand knowledge of the practice.
And you would have courts-martial ed him given the chance, wouldn't you, Helen?
The military has been taken over by PC, liberal appeasing weinies!
West didn't hit the man, he just scared the crap out of him. You don't have a clue as to what war is, do you?
It's a whole bunch of guys having the crap scared out of them twenty four hours a day but, with the intestinal fortitude to ignore it and get the job done.
How dare you speak of "moral authority", doofus! There is no moral authority on the battle field. One does what they have to do to stay alive first and protect their buddies a close second. Pissing on the enemy (better when they are alive, then shooting them in the head) or firing a pistol close to their ear comes in as a reward for surviving the first two!
MMfA hates Brietbart and they hate Dana. Dana's on CNN. Does anything more need to be said?
They are not worried about Tammy Bruce (who has the right idea with the pig guts) or Mark Levin. They don't attack MMfA, and score debilitating hits, on a daily basis.
Breitbart and Dana do.
Besides, is there much difference between pissing on their corpses and blowing them to bits and letting the goats and rats eat the pieces?
And just bye the bye, all hail the ACLU! The greatest leveler to the lowest common denominator ever devised short of communism. Don't you have a cross to tear down somewhere that only one person is afraid of?
It's a given that leftists don't play fair…no surprise there. They will try to destroy anyone who is a conservative with a national voice. Dana will be fine if CNN doesn't continue to have her own their programs and she will continue to get her message out. Perseverance is what is needed for all true conservatives and the strong will survive.
You know, JBear, I'm thinkin' that your suggested treatment of the bodies would have a lot more taliban giving attacks on Americans a little more thought, doncha' think?
Perhaps the PC think "common knowledge" that it would recruit more terrorists is actually 180 degrees off.
Yes, and MOST thinking people applaud Col West for what he did. He found out where the ambushes were to occur and where to find the terrorists! Good for him. The guy was "scared." Since when is scaring your enemy a courts martial offense? I spent 8 years in the Army during the 60's and I guarantee you the UCMJ contained NOTHING about "scaring" someone requiring any form of punishment. If it does now, more's the pity.
A point well taken MJK009.
"on the fringe where CNN should never go'
What? They don't get any "fringier" than Piers Morgan, so why is he OK??
I can't help but think there are groups of taliban (and other terrorists) sitting around a fire in a cave somewhere with one of their guys translating all the weinie words of the liberals describing how dastardly this was and how the soldiers should be punished and the whole group laughing their asses off over how stupid Americans are!
I can't shake the feeling!
Can we be any more panty waisted?
to get your pigford monies?
atleast he did not rape the detainee's kid in front of him like some others did at abu gaharib.
RON PAUL WILL DEFUND MEDIA MATTER STRAIGHT AWAY.
* EDIT —-DEFUND—-
fukoff commie
LOL!
you sure are a delusional little pr!(k
so you do support the pigford then?? shame on you.
The mere fact you would mention pigford in a conversation regarding Col West exposes your racist ignorance and intolerance….
And clearly…….you have no shame…..
Really? You never read the Abu Gaharib Report issued by the Army?
The actions of our troops in these instances described in the report are an embarrassment to the flag and all it stood for.
INFORM YOURSELF. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northam...
READ THE REPORT. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6...
http://www.salon.com/2004/07/15/hersh_7/
The actions of our troops in these instances described in the report are an embarrassment to the flag and all it stood for.
INFORM YOURSELF. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northam...
READ THE REPORT. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6...
http://www.salon.com/2004/07/15/hersh_7/
he voted for it not me.
I remember it well because it was his LAST VOTE as a member of the TEA PARTY.
The fact that you toss out racial accusations without basis makes you a race baiter and a straw man.
HE VOTED FOR IT DEFEND THE VOTE OR MOVE ALONG.
I AM A BLACK AMERICAN.
LOL!!
Oh, so now when you're accused of racial bigotry you're suddenly black? A few weeks ago when we caught you being anti-Semitic, you claimed to be a Jew.
So you're just a liar.
Shut up, lying hatemongering scumbag.
Of course MMfA isn't going after Tammy Bruce. Tammy is an out-and-proud lesbian, and therefore "protected" by the Left.
It appears you are the bigot.
Jewish is not a race.
I am black.
I am jewish.
I am AMERCAN.
Right I am lying….
I hacked into the news servers and planted these fraudulent stories deep in their archives with the sole purpose of enlightening you here in the comment section of a blog…..
YOU ARE A CONSPIRACY THEORIST.
we get opakapaka on my island all the time…. even the pakalolo too….
negative. The military represents we the people around the world.
this will undoubtedly cause blow back.
How convenient. You remember each of these supposed self-identities only when someone points out that you are acting like a racist or an anti-Semite.
I don't believe you for a second.
"That Loesch would seek to tap into, or channel such real emotions as part of her program should not only not be shocking, it should not be viewed as some terrible offense."
They know Dana's sincere. Nobody's shocked anymore by the Left's rhetorical excesses because nobody takes them seriously, including leftists. They're irresponsible and sloppy, often contradicting themselves from one day to the next. Their contempt is such that they couldn't care less if anyone notices. It takes more sophistication than a passing interest in politics to recognize it, but the more people understand that the Left's motives are always preconceived and timed for maximum political advantage, the easier they are to dismiss. They make no pretense to any moral or ethical code of conduct among themselves. They exist to destroy, reduced to laying in wait for more serious, reputable people to take a risk. Then they pounce. More often than not it leads to nothing, like in this case, where all they managed to do is give Dana tons of free publicity for expressing in plain language what 90% of us are feeling too. That it coincides nicely with her upcoming 3-hour format, let's hope her audience doubles.
Trying to schadenfreude themselves to prominence is one many reasons why the Left is no good on radio. Every single thing about them is insincere. Their 'outrages' most of all.
Great piece, Mr. Riehl.
i have never made any racalist comments.
By your logic i should post a disclaimer with each comment of my ethnic and religious heritage.
Would you have me get tattooed or just gold star on my sleeve?
Media Matters appears fixated on a mission to try and silence the free speech of Big Journalism editor Dana Loesch,- is there a fund to bail her out of jail? when is her court date- the article didn't mention how she was punished and under what misguided law on the books Media Matters used to arrest her and silence her free speech. Please let us readers know the facts!
As a former member of the US Army, I say KUDOS to West. If he had followed the typical liberal, encounter group, get in touch with you feminist side, his men would be dead. When exactly are a liberal male's balls taken away? At birth or later in life?
LOL!
I am a Native American who can speak for hours on Manifest Destiny and the Trail of Tears…. good luck playing the race card on me Holms….. I don't and can't defend everyone's vote….
BTW
Since you knocked on my door……you take your no good a$$ on down the road…..
nicely done sir….
Really?
So you think America's troops are such savages?
Put this in your pipe……
Jessica Lynch…..
"Lynch’s medical records indicate she was anally raped…….
“The records do not tell whether her captors assaulted her almost lifeless,
broken body after she was lifted from the wreckage, or if they assaulted her
and then broke her bones into splinters until she was almost dead,” the Daily
News quotes from the book.'
http://www.wnd.com/2003/11/21645/
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-11-06-ly...
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=33861
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/may/15/iraq….
I'm sorry but a dead body is a lifeless thing, a nothing, an empty shell. Of course its wrong to pee on a dead enemy combatant. But then again, its wrong to kill people too, but we do it when it is necessary. War itself is an atrocity but we do it when it is necessary. Guess what? Warriors have been doing things to enemy combatants dead bodies since war was invented. The liberal media has so warped our perspective that whenever they show something bad or wrong in our society they reflexively present a flawed solution: regulation.
You can't regulate the atrocity or ugliness out of war. You can't regulate murder out of our broken human nature. You can't regulate behaviour and you can't fix society with an endless list of rules and written standards. A society that needs warriors for its continued existence should be focused on empowering those warriors to make better war, not better behaviour.
That would be a waste of good urine…..
And athletes foot …It also contains more protein the a sirloin steak….
As a Liberal Delta Bravo you sir have no morals let alone moral authority on anything…
What do you call a bus load of Media Matters posters driving off a cliff…..A good start…
OMG— you're using the freekin' GUARDIAN as a "news" source???????
I'm sorry, but they are NOT a valid source for anything dealing with the war.
should have shat on them as well!
The authorized biography, I Am A Soldier Too: The Jessica Lynch Story, by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Rick Bragg states that Lynch had been raped during her captivity, based on medical records and her pattern of injuries.[18]
Lynch does not recall any sexual assault and was "adamantly opposed to including the rape claim in the book", but that Bragg wore her down and told her that "people need to know that this is what can happen to women soldiers".[19]
Oh?
So it is ok to rape her….. after all she is a woman….
Just don't piss on any dead 'tolerant muslims….aint that right….comrade?
check please…
IT DID NOT HAPPEN. IT WAS FICTION JUST LIKE THE DARING RESCUE THAT THE MILITARY STAGED AS AS A pr OP.
HOW DO YOU DEFEND OUR MILITARY RAPING CHILDREN AT ABU GAHARIB?
:LOL!
You are an idiot….
JERRY BRUCHEIMER DIRECTED THE STAGED RESCUE VIA SATELLITE. tHIS IS A FACT OF RECORD.
lynch was featured herself talking about it on this site yesterday.
I BET YOU THINK THE TALIBAN KILLED PAT TILLMAN TOO…
WHAT ABOUT THE CHILD RAPES? STILL SILENT ON THOSE YOU MUST SUPPORT THEM….
Levin will love some pig guts…..
http://thewe.cc/weplanet/news/armed_force/us/jess...
http://thewe.cc/weplanet/news/armed_force/us/jess...
She says she was raped.beavis….are you calling her a liar?
she said she wasn't and objected to it being in the book but the author of the book put it in because and i quote "people need to know that this is what –CAN– happen to women soldiers".
that is her statement of the facts of the matter.
still avoiding the child rape at abu gaharib.
your lynch anal rape strawman is pathetic.
Of course you are….everyone knows all you little soros boi whores are anti bush…..
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