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	<title>Comments on: Overnight Thread: Thank &#8216;God&#8217; &#8212; Ninth Circuit Court Rules Pledge of Allegiance, Motto Still Legal</title>
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		<title>By: Circuit Courts</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Circuit Court</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HumanPersonJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>HumanPersonJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not thinking; it&#039;s non-thinking, a refusal to think. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s not thinking; it&#039;s non-thinking, a refusal to think.</p>
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		<title>By: HumanPersonJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>HumanPersonJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, not. If any of us disagree, we&#039;re free to express that disagreement. 
 
The fact that a Christian might be beheaded for opposing the party line in a Middle Eastern country should automatically give you pause about religious influence in government. 
 
You have no argument. Your words are unthoughtful and lame in the extreme. You fall far short of Peter K, whose attitude is far more &quot;American&quot; than your own. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, not. If any of us disagree, we&#039;re free to express that disagreement. </p>
<p>The fact that a Christian might be beheaded for opposing the party line in a Middle Eastern country should automatically give you pause about religious influence in government. </p>
<p>You have no argument. Your words are unthoughtful and lame in the extreme. You fall far short of Peter K, whose attitude is far more &quot;American&quot; than your own.</p>
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		<title>By: HumanPersonJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>HumanPersonJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pascal&#039;s Wager doesn&#039;t hold up. If, as he suggests, you believe in God because He might or might not exist, and you think you should hedge your bets and improve your position, you&#039;ve already failed too impious to earn a Heavenly reward upon your death. 
 
It can&#039;t work. According to Christian teaching, you must wholeheartedly believe in God. You can&#039;t believe wholeheartedly if, in the back of your mind, there lurks the thought: &quot;It&#039;s wiser to believe, even if it&#039;s not true.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pascal&#039;s Wager doesn&#039;t hold up. If, as he suggests, you believe in God because He might or might not exist, and you think you should hedge your bets and improve your position, you&#039;ve already failed too impious to earn a Heavenly reward upon your death. </p>
<p>It can&#039;t work. According to Christian teaching, you must wholeheartedly believe in God. You can&#039;t believe wholeheartedly if, in the back of your mind, there lurks the thought: &quot;It&#039;s wiser to believe, even if it&#039;s not true.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: HumanPersonJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>HumanPersonJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe an atheist nation would be no better than a religious nation. Atheists are still people, and people are a bit sketchy in general, a little dodgy here and there, self-serving and all the rest. 
 
I also believe it would be no worse, and that good morals and values are not limited to religious adherents. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe an atheist nation would be no better than a religious nation. Atheists are still people, and people are a bit sketchy in general, a little dodgy here and there, self-serving and all the rest. </p>
<p>I also believe it would be no worse, and that good morals and values are not limited to religious adherents.</p>
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		<title>By: HumanPersonJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>HumanPersonJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With great respect, wldbil, because I know you&#039;re a thoughtful person:  The entire reason for our Constitution is to protect the rights of the minority, not to enforce the will of the majority.  Popular sentiment, written or spoken, needs no protection. It&#039;s the unpopular thoughts that can inspire great malice in others, and therefore need the greatest protection. 
 
The government has, on numerous occasions, abused those who express unpopular ideas. The concept of free speech is now reduced to freedom from prior restraint. 
 
In the runup to WWI, the government jailed newspaper editors for writing against our getting into the war. The government&#039;s argument? We didn&#039;t infringe on your freedom of speech. We let you have your say, fair and square, then locked your ass up for it. 
 
So, majority rule is for a democracy, a hateful form of governance, but not for our beloved constitutional republic. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With great respect, wldbil, because I know you&#039;re a thoughtful person:  The entire reason for our Constitution is to protect the rights of the minority, not to enforce the will of the majority.  Popular sentiment, written or spoken, needs no protection. It&#039;s the unpopular thoughts that can inspire great malice in others, and therefore need the greatest protection. </p>
<p>The government has, on numerous occasions, abused those who express unpopular ideas. The concept of free speech is now reduced to freedom from prior restraint. </p>
<p>In the runup to WWI, the government jailed newspaper editors for writing against our getting into the war. The government&#039;s argument? We didn&#039;t infringe on your freedom of speech. We let you have your say, fair and square, then locked your ass up for it. </p>
<p>So, majority rule is for a democracy, a hateful form of governance, but not for our beloved constitutional republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilan Ben Menachem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilan Ben Menachem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this story. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this story.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilan Ben Menachem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilan Ben Menachem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Establishment Clause of the Constitution&#8217;s 1st Amendment prohibits the enactment of a law or official policy that establishes a religion or religious faith. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Establishment Clause of the Constitution&rsquo;s 1st Amendment prohibits the enactment of a law or official policy that establishes a religion or religious faith.</p>
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		<title>By: vivlibomuori</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn straight. Pledging allegiance to our flag is a basic statement of love for one&#039;s country, it&#039;s laws, and it&#039;s basic freedoms. There is NO bullying involved. I said the pledge every morning of every school day, and never felt &quot;bullied&quot; into it. Those who would argue otherwise either are whining little C-cakes, or are people who truly disagree with what this country stands for. For the former, grow thicker skin. For the latter, GET OUT. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn straight. Pledging allegiance to our flag is a basic statement of love for one&#39;s country, it&#39;s laws, and it&#39;s basic freedoms. There is NO bullying involved. I said the pledge every morning of every school day, and never felt &quot;bullied&quot; into it. Those who would argue otherwise either are whining little C-cakes, or are people who truly disagree with what this country stands for. For the former, grow thicker skin. For the latter, GET OUT.</p>
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