Julia Baird, who hails from Oz, probably wouldn’t dare write this in Newsweek, where she’s currently (but for how long?) gainfully employed as a deputy editor. But she feels perfectly free to unload on the land that gives her sustenance in the pages of The Age, one of the leading Australian newspapers.
And you know what she thinks of America? She thinks it’s weird:

America’s weirdness is well documented. And I don’t mean just the plastic-surgery addicts in LA, the outsourcing, pill-popping perfectionists in New York, the toddler pageants, the deep fried Oreos, or even the testicle festivals, the smelly sneaker competitions or the towns that speak their own language and print their own money. Or the fact that four in 10 Americans believe alien abductions have occurred. Or even that in Connecticut you are not allowed to walk across a street on your hands. Nor are you allowed to cross the Minnesota border with a duck on your head. In Florida it is illegal to sing outside in a swimming costume, for unmarried women to skydive on Sunday, and for men to leave the house in a strapless dress. Which cuts out half of Sydney’s social life.
In truth, many parts of the everyday are more peculiar than the freak shows in the US, at least to the Australians who come to visit or live here for a while. At first it’s the enormous food portions, entire aisles of drugstores devoted to digestive aids, the blatant, direct advertising of pharmaceuticals, a sugar-drenched gastronomic culture which rebrands fatty meals as “family guy” specials and the fact that in Manhattan women use Botox to shrink earring holes and corner stores peel mandarins for you.
So far, so much fish in a barrel. America’s patchwork of crazy local laws, most of them superannuated and both unenforced and unenforceable, is a standing target easily perforated in five minutes’ research on the Internet.
But sometimes the surface weirdness can obscure the real differences between Australia and America. Most expatriates talk about how some things we take for granted back home – fully publicly funded healthcare, unemployment benefits (without an expiry date), compulsory retirement savings – are anathema to most people here. Many of the fundamentals of our system, such as these, are dismissed as socialism or scarily big government, even though the US government is running record budget deficits. Americans shrug off our example of a sustainable social welfare net as a consequence of a small population.
Yes, it’s breaking news that America is not Australia, and that while the two countries are roughly the same size geographically, Oz has two-thirds the population of California, and is only slightly larger than the Greater New York metropolitan area, so who really cares what they think?

The vapidity at the heart of this foolish article then leads Ms. Baird to a discussion of — of all things — de Tocqueville (whom it’s highly doubtful she’s ever read, except in excerpts). Steel yourself for some blinding insights into the American character from not one but two Australians:
But the most extraordinary and ongoing fight in America is that over democratic ideals, as Peter Carey has reminded us in his wonderful book Parrot and Olivier, which has just been nominated for the Booker Prize. In it, he retells the story of the French aristocrat Alexis de Tocqueville, who toured America in the 1830s and whose book, Democracy in America, provided startling and prescient insights into the American psyche and character.
Carey believes that many of de Tocqueville’s concerns about democracy and the national love of wealth have been forgotten. When it came to the rule of the majority, Carey told me, instead of an educated electorate, de Tocqueville saw a mob: “He feared that the lack of education, the obsession with money, the lack of interesting culture would lead to a very mediocre culture catering to people who had money and time.” This, Carey fears, has come true. De Tocqueville wrote, “As one digs deeper into the national character of the Americans, one sees that they have sought the value of everything in this world only in the answer to this single question: how much money will it bring in?”
There it is: it all about money. No visiting foreigner’s ever made that observation before or since! But she’s not done:
The American experiment is continuing. It remains dynamic and robust, even if at times it is deeply unsettling – the tension and dark undercurrents are ever-evident, perhaps especially to outsiders, and particularly in the disastrous recent attempts to export it, in some angrier elements of the Tea Party movement, and in incidents like the racist nonsense that led to the unfounded sacking of Shirley Sherrod. As de Tocqueville predicted – and Carey reminds us – majority rule can be ugly, and mad at times.
And there you have it: the Democrat-Media Complex in full cry, pursuing a partisan issue under the pretext of writing somewhat incoherently about Tocqueville.
No wonder Newsweek is on the block — whether auction or chopping remains to be seen.






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Excellent article.
Out in the real West, they aren't called testical festivals though. They are called nut fry's.
"…the tension and dark undercurrents are ever-evident, perhaps especially to outsiders, and particularly in the disastrous recent attempts to export it, in some angrier elements of the Tea Party movement, and in incidents like the racist nonsense that led to the unfounded sacking of Shirley Sherrod. "
Shirley Sherrod and racism are relevant only so much as it keeps folks focused on those irrelevant non-issues, as opposed to talking about what really matters. Two Wars, Gitmo, escalating unemployment and a skyrocketing National Debt that is unsustainable.
Bread for the circus.
Exactly! Truth: 2 + 2 = 5!
If you need an expert opinion on everyday things that are "more peculiar than freak shows," just ask the nearest Australian tourist with a dog-eared copy of Democracy in America clutched to his/her breast.
I love the Aussies but talk about the pot calling the kettle off-white. In the weirdness sweepstakes no one can touch them. When "Mad Max" debuted on American TV they had to redub it because it was impossible to understand the dialogue. See also Simpsons 2F13
Obama has broken everything he has touched because he doesn't understand how America it works.
The great thing about America is that everybody gets to create their own utopia. We all get to celebrate life in 300 million different ways. It's Darwin approved.
Trying to force one vision of utopia on everybody just makes "liberals" freaks in my book.
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This reminds me of an exchange Orianna Fallaci, in her earlier leftist radical days, had with an American. She said, "All you Americans care about is money. It's all about money." And the American replied, "You don't?"
The truth is that America is the least materialistic of the Western countries. We prize ambition and social mobility. They've, in Marxist fashion, degraded every human impulse to a materialistic equation between have and have nots. You will find no greedier a person than the Greek civil servant who demand's his state-paid vacations, short working hours and riots when faced with austerity, in effect dooming their country's financial future as a whole rather than give up their pittance from the state.
Australia will become so much "lebensraum" for China's excess population once the USA's military is gutted by socialist policies.
Clearly Ms. Baird hasn't noticed Australia's overpopulated, third world neighbors to the north who would like nothing better than to steamroll over Australia's relatively minuscule population and take advantage of those wide open spaces. Only one thing standing in the way, and it's not France.
Since this an open thread… Have you seen the EPA's Environmental Justice Plan:
http://motorcitytimes.com/mct/2010/07/the-epas-mi...
Carnack says…….
"ummmmmmmm, what's the new version of Cap and Trade?"
just a hunch…:-)))))
Hey guys, don't judge all we aussies by the words of some dreadful hack.
We know that Oz and the US are different. That's why we get on so well.
This disgusting slag is simply trying to push her own peculiar anti- American tripe. She was probably knocked back by a US sailor when one of your great ships came into Sydney for some R+R. Those R+R breaks are legendary in Sydney and Darwin!
Also Mr Ross, I would like to correct part of your article, The Age is NOT one of our leading newspapers. It has been circling the drain for a while now. Most Melbournians wouldn't even use it to line their bird cages.
I wish we had Oz versions of The Big sites.
Were I the president, this would be in my first address to the world:
"Canada, Britain, Australia, and the whole of Europe, you are hereby on notice: the American people have not only shed their blood for your countries, but for the last 60 years, have been paying the lion's share of the bill for your defense. They are getting tired of being continually kicked in the teeth by you for the trouble. If you cannot show proper gratitude for the naive generosity of the American people, then they will let you fend for yourselves. If you fail to provide an opposition voice to those in your countries who promote hatred and disrespect to this country, then soon you will be on your own. Good luck."
Great take!
Crap and Trade?
I wonder, will John Kerry get a carbon credit, or offset, for his yacht?
If it is wind powered, perhaps he can offset that half million dollar tax bill with a million dollar credit.
That would sure make Ol' Tereeeza happy.
You forgot Mexico, the whole of the Middle East, and all of Southeast Asia.
What did we do for Mexico you might ask? We started their petroleum industry. Then they Nationalized it, and kicked the oilmen back to Texas. We did the same thing in the Middle East. We brought them from the Stone Age, riding camels, to driving Mercedes paid for by Petro dollars. In Southeast Asia, we left about 60,000 souls.
Pogria,
Thanks for the comments. I found Baird's article snooty, and therefore surprising. You don't often hear snooty comments from down under. In fact I think the responses from other readers here were altogether too reflexive.
Ross asks, "Oz has two-thirds the population of California, and is only slightly larger than the Greater New York metropolitan area, so who really cares what they think?"
I do. We share a common heritage, and have both grown up similarly. Australia was a penal colony. As to who we are, I'll just quote Bill Murray in Stripes: "We're Americans. That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world."
Now we are two of the very few nations whose people celebrate independence in thought, and we neither of us give a damn about those who believe they have the right, or the superior expertise, to tell us how we should live. That means some people will think we're weird.
Of course, you won't meet many such elites (read: condescending jackasses) in the U.S., though you can find the exceptions, particularly on the east and west coasts. Our media folks — particularly those that populate Newsweek, Time, and the networks — love to believe themselves particularly cerebral.
By the way, democracy certainly can be ugly, and mad at times. That's why Winston Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
Most of us have no problems with being a little weird. That beats the hell out of being conventional, which is usually attended by conventional wisdom.
What a dumbass. Deep fried sweets were invented in fish n' chip shops in the UK. It started with candy bars. Even the simplest of her references is wrong.
What's that whistle? The wind between Julia Baird's ears. Sheesh.
I am wondering, since this is an open thread.
I'm also a gambling man. Anyone care to place any bets on whether Sordid Shirley Sherrod will make any appearances, or make the rounds on the Morning Talkies tomorrow morning?
It appears she has gone to ground.
Probably laid up in the same den as Bertha Lewis.
Anyone care to bet if Shirley Sherrod will make the rounds of the Sunday Morning talk shows?
Alloallo3,
thank YOU, for your lovely words. I would say the media in both our great countries is very similar in their extreme left-leaning and smug superiority.
The above article by Julia Baird describing Americans is more an expression of admiration for your country, than the reverse, compared to the way she describes Australia to Australians. I sometimes wonder if our Aussie media dwell in a parallel universe. I'm sure the same is true for yourselves.
Pick – on- the – US, has become a favourite fall back position for both our media swill. With we Aussies it's because our cultural "intelligentsia", long suffered from a cultural cringe to mother England. Our so-called elite had been prostrating themselves for years to the British. Now, with the demise of that former great power, they need a new whipping boy. The US fits the bill. I find this highly amusing as it seems to me an hysterically funny example of biting off more than you can chew. They seem to forget Australia has hit the world stage and there are people throughout the rest of the world that read what Australians write!
Cheers and God Bless.
The Kings Cross area in Sydney is well known for R and R breaks. Great country OZ! Promised myself I would make it back there again after 1986 — Melbourne to Cairns. Best ever. Wonderful.
Looks like your new redheaded (godless) PM is going to do the nationalism-light thing on the mining industries, No? The 40% profit confiscation plan by the last fellow did not go over too well and there was a bloodless coup?
I reckon 20% now the new 40% with this one?
Yes, Big sites are great. they're a muckraking shout in the dark that makes the fake news media flip out and pay attention.
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A few years back I was at our local library searching for something to read and the children's librarian recommended a series of books about Australian teenagers doing the "Red Dawn" thing after their country was invaded. (never did say the country but it was fairly clear to understand it was China)
Can't remember the name of the books, sorry. They were darn good, though, more mature than I would've thought, almost like Heinlein's Starship Troopers being classified as juvenile fiction.
You're exactly right about who is standing in the way.
Yes, to paraphrase a MUCH better president than the current one: "If you're not with us, you're against us."
Excellent!
"WE THE PEOPLE" SO WHAT"
"Career jobs and decent paying employment is gone. Forced accumulation of debt through inflation and taxes is rampant. Lack of nourishment because of GMO vegetables and GMO corn fed livestock is managed by the addiction to hundreds of “miracle” pharmaceuticals that play an endless game of downward spiraling levels of health issues for the majority of America’s people. "
"As the saying goes, this in not a threat, but an absolute promise. The government may continue its purposeful indifference toward the enemies who have invaded and killed along our border, but ranchers, farmers, and dedicated able bodied-veterans who have already put it on the line somewhere else, are ready, willing and VERY able to do it again right here. "
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg155.htm
I did one of those extended R&R's. I developed a great fondness for Australians, most Marines do. Along with one hell of a hangover.
I was wondering over the last few years if the country had gone partially insane. Then I was reminded it was just the libprog part and said to myself……
Samey, same.
Thanks for reminding me.
Good to know America is not the only country with Elitist Intellectuals that spin a tale of Flatulence.
I am going to say……no.
I'm betting that the shills still don't want to bring up Pigsford and her extraordinarily racist husband. They know that they will be called out for it, too.
I think they want to bury ol' Whiplash Shirley….
You are joking right? America has lost its quality 80 years ago and it is now showing its ugly face. The last forty years has brought war after war. Who started those wars? The US started all the wars whether you like it or not. We are lead by the Federal Reserve bank and the Bildeberg group. The US does not mean people can do what they did some mere 80 years ago when the Federal Reserve stole our country. Bush, Clinton, Obama, Daddy Bush are all criminals and should be tried on war crimes, Treason and money laundering to begin. I love the US from the history but I cannot stand what is happening to this country and republicans will not help it one bit. Bush started this Muslim Terrorist Bullshit to scare us. This oil Spill is fake just to scare everyone. We need all new faces in our government and need to abolish the Fed at once. Get rid of Big Drugs and all the large mega banks. Go back to small hometown banks should be number one also along with bring every troop home from all 400 places.
America has lost its quality 80 years ago and it is now showing its ugly face. The last forty years has brought war after war. Who started those wars? The US started all the wars whether you like it or not. We are lead by the Federal Reserve bank and the Bildeberg group. The US does not mean people can do what they did some mere 80 years ago when the Federal Reserve stole our country. Bush, Clinton, Obama, Daddy Bush are all criminals and should be tried on war crimes, Treason and money laundering to begin. I love the US from the history but I cannot stand what is happening to this country and republicans will not help it one bit. Bush started this Muslim Terrorist Bullshit to scare us. This oil Spill is fake just to scare everyone. We need all new faces in our government and need to abolish the Fed at once. Get rid of Big Drugs and all the large mega banks. Go back to small hometown banks should be number one also along with bring every troop home from all 400 places
We should be growing all Natural foods and ban all foods filled with chemicals that are hard to look up. Everything this country has on it that grows should be used. Every seed bearing herd and fruit trees are the Meat of this earth. No chemicals in any of our products would be one thing I would love to see done. Use all natural plants for everything from medication to food.
I hope she does. I love this lady?
Why you might ask. She is digging her grave and it will destroy Obama. Let her talk, because she deserves it.
Why do liberals insist we have a Democracy in the US. I agree we do but we are supposed to be a Republic.
Thanks Pogria, my best friend is from Queensland and he tells me that silly moonbats are always running their mouth. I have always loved Oz more than any other country except the US and we share far more in common than we do with any other nation. The pinhead that wrote that hit-piece is probably a pom posing a native Aussie.
Mel Gibson.
*sigh* ANOTHER example of a screed advocating the same trite tired meme; "If only America was more like ____, (fill in the blank), usually the last neo-socialist utopia the author visited on an expense account while doing "research".
This women seams oblivious that people DIE trying to come here, People are desperate to be US, me and you – to be ONE OF US – AMERICANS. Our strong private sector, manageably sized government, strong military and resonable tax structure WAS a BEACON to the WORLD.
And I'm not talking antebellum America, I'm talking as late as the 1980's – pre Democrat inspired tax hikes.
We MUST return to a vital private sector, start STARVING the public sector of TRILLIONS of tax payer money that is wasted as largesse, CUT TAXES and let the job engine that is small businesses and large corporations OFF the LEASH.
And, since it's "all about money", then we can present them with the invoice !
Uh uh…after a four or five days of allowing her to shoot off her mouth, and getting CNN to suggest that she sue Breitbart, they were done with her….she's been taken to an "undisclosed location" before everyone figures out that her "epiphany" didn't really take, which might seriously mess up the narrative !
The Australians aren't weird? Back in the early 80s, I drove a taxi in SF. Each year during Fleet Week, I would chat with our sailors. They often commented on how easy it was for them to meet Australian women because the males over there were so brutal. In American sailors treated their women with a lot more respect than the beatings they took from their boys.
Calm down, buford, calm down. Ask your nurse for some medication and soon the hallucinations will go away. There's enough real corruption and malfeasance in this country without another Lyndon LaRouche nutjob lecturing us all on how Bush started the war on terror just to scare us and that the oil spill is a fake.
If you're good today, buford, maybe the nurses will let you watch TV in the day room.
So… where's the money trail in the Sherrod case? If it's all about the money… SHOW ME THE MONEY!
Even if you really believe we started 'war after war,' (and somehow are oblivious to the fact that Japan bombed Pearl Harbor), how can you hold Presidents responsible for war crimes if the congress they were under supported their actions? Every president you named had a house and senate that approved of their actions ON PAPER. They did not do it as dictators do and do it autonomously. Unless you are willing to hold each "yea" voter responsible as well, your words are hollow.
Viet Nam was originally a war between France and Vietnam you numbskull. We didn't start diddley squat. It was already started when we got there.
And, oh yeah, we were invited to help in Bosnia because there was a massacre already happening.
The Saudis asked the US to help contain Iraq in Iraq 1 when Iraq started to annex Kuwait.
We jumped into Korea when the Communist Party started a civil war in Korea–we fought with the opposition. Should I go on?
Do you even read history? Just curious.
"and Carey reminds us – majority rule can be ugly, and mad at times."
Much like the House and Senate majority rule right now.
The Australians are fierce business people. Anyone who has ever had to do business with an Aussie will know they are quite comfortable going after the money. There is a definite cut throat aspect to many Aussie business people. Just saying…
So are we to understand that Julia has left her beloved Oz to hack at Newsweek strictly out of altruism? Is she perhaps an unpaid intern? Do we really need to be importing socialists?
Sorry Julia, the money is just a bi-product of the economic liberty that has been an American mainstay. Freedom and prosperity go hand in hand. When that is not the case the cause is usually easy to find; it's called socialism!
Julia Baird notwithstanding, I like the Aussies!
BTW, I would like it very much if Julia would explain why in Australia taxi cabs are required to carry a bale of hay in the trunk.
She shouldn't be paid. Money is sooo evil, don't you know.
WoW faye, perhaps I misunderstand your question, but if you seriously don't know about the Pigford
lawsuits Sherrod has shepherded through USDA please go to one of the past stories on Sherrod,
find a post by BuddyTWD and read that persons comment stream, and replies.
Please tell me Julia was not paid for that rant. What a bunch of baloney she speaks. As a fellow Australian who has made this wonderful country my home, she know not what she speaks. This is the second Australian I know of who speaks of Tea Party attendants but has been to none, writes of Sherrod but only writes of the MSM version and still does not get that correct.
My home away from home is this amazing country called the United States of America. If I have learned nothing else from my move from Australia to the US, it is "do not believe a word you hear, experience it for yourself and then decide". Julia, get you head out of the Australian bulldust and live here for a while. You will change you mind quickly and then we expect an apology.
Just a note, Hiredmind you say it well. My sentiments exactly.
"Muslim Terrorist Bullshit," Gracie? Where were you when Muslim terrorists bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut, when they bombed Kobar Towers, the U.S.S. Cole, the Embassies in Africa and BOTH attacks on the WTC? Asleep in a cave somewhere? Muslim terrorists have been at war with US for 30 years and we didn't even acknowledge it until George W. finally had had enough and decided to fight back.
Having many "Aussies" as friends who have come to America one thing is clear, They love both their Home and America. Those I've associated with are the regular types, they come from "Cattle Stations" (ranches) they are extrordianary horsemen. We have know one gentleman for over twenty years, he continues to re-new his visa to live here, but maintain his citizenship in Austalia. His observations are pertinient, America is what Australia used be prior to liberal politicians getting hold of everything, Social engineering has ruined the will of people to risk. The push for guilt over history has divided the nation. He hopes that America wakes-up befor this country is ruined.
I took a week's R&R from Vietnam in Sydney in 1968 and stayed in a hotel just off of Kings Cross. I found the Aussies–particularly the women–to be VERY friendly and I enjoyed myself immensely! I was a newly-wed when I left for Vietnam in 1967 so I didn't "partake" of the several offers made, but I was astonished at how popular we American military men were with Aussie ladies. The opera house was still under construction and I actually went inside to see the interior under those amazing roofs and I visited the oldest pub in Sydney for a beer (or three or four). I was a bit surprised to see the gender segregation in most Aussie pubs though. The customs inspection we endured in Darwin before continuing on to Sydney was the toughest I've ever experienced before or since. My nephew married an Aussie girl and currently lives in The Gold Coast and seems very happy there.
Be careful with that word liberal. It means totally different parties in these two countries. Australia's issue at this moment is the Labor party, Gillard forced a coup and is up to her neck in you know what. Australia is one country that needs Liberals in charge. John Howard (Liberal) was a gift. They had no boat people and money in the bank. After Rudd, (Labor) Christmas Island is sinking and all the money is gone. Got to love the Labor party. We need to call the liberals here in the US what they are, Socialist Ruling Party.
I agree. Conservatism in the U.S. is MUCH more akin to classical liberalism. Individual freedom, individual responsibility, less government intrusion into our lives and businesses and being allowed to keep what one earns to do with whatever you desire–including helping out those in need–are all characteristics of classical liberalism. Today's American version of liberalism is all about control. Control of the economy, control of what we eat, where we live, what we drive, where we can go, how we vote and how we live. (On what planet does the Congress of the U.S. have the authority to dictate how much water we can use to flush our toilets!!!?)
Methinks judging OZ and its people on the basis of this article is like, ummm, well….
….A writer from OZ judging America and Americans on the basis of her years of experience NOT BEING AMERICAN and backing her opinions with quotes from another person NOT AMERICAN who, SURPRISE found AMERICANS to be VERY DIFFERENT AND THEREFORE WIERD.
NEWS AT 11!
And a word of advice to Ms Sherrod….
Be careful what you ask for, Ms Sherrod. Thus far you and Breitbart have both fared well in this mess. But life can turn on a dime and you can wind up being proven to be the racist Mr Breitbart NEVER SAID YOU WERE.
Lily Tomlin said "I always wanted to be somebody…..but now I realize I should have been more specific."
That's a great quote!
Are any rat-banging righties going to apologize to Al Gore? Anyone can be destroyed by a false accusation these days thanks to the Rat-Banging Conservative plague that surfaces every time Republicans are voted out.
As an American, the Australian author really struck a chord. I live in redneck country, so it's easy to get cynical about Americans when I witness obesity, gross consumerism, unconscionable waste, and disregard for the earth every day. Wonder why outsiders hate Americans? Go to the mall.
Actually, we don't even have a mall around here. Just go to a Walmart Superstore. But you must try to reprogram your perspective to that of a foreigner. As you waddle down the aisle that gives you a choice of 13 different varieties of Oreos, try to hide your disappointment that you must go to the Fair in order to get "deep-fried Oreos." Your indulgent temper tantrum is so unbecoming.
Wait…Americans weird compared to…Austrailians!
Not that there is anything wrong with being "weird". Hell, many cities in the U.S. even have campaigns to "Keep Blank Weird", but I think even most Aussies would admit (or brag) that they have us beat 10 to 1 in "Weird" whatever "Weird" is.
An editor at Newsweek declaring what is "weird" is weird.
She's an idiot. Of course the reason Oz can maintain health benefits for all and unemployment benefits without expiration is because they have a smaller population. Do Aussies understand the meaning of "DUH"? This woman is a moron.
Rosehips: why don't you just say, "I hate people who don't live and think like I do" ? Might be better than your current indulgent temper tantrum.
Yet another column by a liberal who wants to control everything — a megalomaniac in training.
I think your tin foil hat is on too tight. So WE started WWI and WWII? Really? Seriously, dude, there are pills and therapy for what ails you.
I always got the feeling that while we were different, we were kind of the same because of our ruggedness in many ways.
I don't usually judge any one person by the words of one or even more of their countrymen.
I'd still love to visit Australian and go into the outback.
Thanks for your support!
AMEN! I absolutely agree. They use us to protect themselves because they are too sissified to do it themselves and then they have the gall to complain!
I'd tell to stick it where the sun don't shine.
The fact that you had to post the same thing again confirms – your tin foil hat is on too tight. More meds please!
Thank you! We Americans appreciate it your appreciation!
Don't like it? Leave.
Don't like it? Leave.
Ingrate.
The fact is that everybody is everybody's else's weirdo, so it doesn't really matter.
If that's the way she feels, she should move to San Francisco. She'd be much happier. What a byatch!
pappadave — OMG, yes, Sydney and the land down under in Kings Cross are awesome. Glad I'm not the only one with good memories. Never forgotten, always loved.
Well, that wouldn't be completely true. I don't hate those people. I abhor them.
Thanks for your "original" response. I think I'll stay, as is my right. I don't have to like what has become of my country. I can only hope that the dumb Americans will become impotent and the smart ones will realize that their worship of money eventually leaves one empty.
"…worship of money" = wants to earn his/her own living. C'mon, marxist, ya gotta do better than that.
I suppose next you'll be telling us that all media is conservative? Catch a clue, pal.
Can't afford San Fran, but thanks for the suggestion. There's a lot less fat, ugly Americans there.
not talking about those who just want to earn a living. But our society has degenerated into a lust of stuff. C'mon, you know it's true. Where else on earth do people have so much stuff but feel inadequate because they don't have enough stuff.
Marxist? haha where have I heard that accusation before? I know, in the reactionary right blogosphere!
The context for this piece is Baird writing to an Australian audience which is currently in the midst of an uninspiring federal election, where voting is compulsory and you are fined if you are enrolled and do not vote. So we are coerced into engagement in the democratic process. How's that for a contradiction. Where the candidates never talk about democracy or freedom or hope or what we can do but about moving forward and action contracts. Corporate weasel words. The elected Prime Minister (who is not the Head of State) is often determined by a handful of voters in marginal seats. When she describes US democracy as exhilarating, provocative and inspiring in the text from the original below, she speaks for so many Australians who find our version of democracy wanting.
One other thing about weirdness – most Australians would not mind being called wierd. It part of our cultural heritage and isn't necessarily a negative. From an Australian perspective, Baird's great affection for the US underlines this piece. "And yet there remains something exhilarating and provocative about the fact that America was founded on an idea. That in 1776 a group of commoners would dare to declare the overwhelming importance of freedom and democracy in civil society, and consider it self-evident that all men (just white men at first, but later women, and blacks) were created equal, and so entitled to specific and inalienable rights. They fought for eight years to free themselves from the rule of a monarch. It is shocking that Australians not only have never fought for this, but rejected it when it was handed to us."
And "Australians mock patriotism as jingoistic, self-serving and cliched. Here it is frequently inspiring… it harks back to a compelling and powerful idea." http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-cult...
Well, isn't AB profitting from all the media attention? He's a whore for attention and ultimately it's all about money.
Even though Americans do have a bad rep for our many proclivities and overindulgences, my son pointed out to me that in Japan there are vending machines that sell womens' dirty underwear. Could this be true? If it's not, I am guilty of spreading rumors and defaming Japan's good name. Perverts!
Oh, wow, what an original response from a lefty.
You can stay, but we're going to set it right (pun intended) and then you'll just have to live with it – more individual liberty, more personal responsibility, more fiscal responsibility. I hope you can survive, ya ingrate.
Consumerism or matieralism is a whole other story, but also NOT the purview of gov't, despite what the Marxists will tell you.
We are free to be materialistic . . . or not.
So deal with it.
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
Ronald Reagan
40th president of US (1911 – 2004)
Sounds like this chick has been watching Christiane Amanpour's anti-American condescension, as well.
In other news…FOX NEWS gets the FRONT ROW at the WH press room! Cool!
Not saying that materialism should be outlawed but I do believe that it is our patriotic duty to cut our energy consumption in half. Please tell me why Americans should consume 24% of energy while only having 5% of the world's population?
I'd be all for personal responsibility if Americans were capable of being responsible. But no, too many want the right to destroy the planet and are in denial about how their actions impact the earth. Now that gets me mad.
You go ahead and do that then. When it's over 100 degrees (plus humidity depending on where you live) I hope you can survive the heat. Or when it's below freezing in the winter (if you live in a cold climate) I hope you can survive the cold.
We use that much energy because we are MODERN and have MODERN CONVENIENCES. If you want to live in a cave, feel free. It's your right as an American.
Besides, what Americans would prefer is to be able to bring modern conveniences to those that don't have it, thereby lifting everybody up, rather than your idea which is to bring everybody down, which is typical of a lefty. Equal in misery.
No thanks, dear.
Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it. No one is trying to destroy the planet. If there were cleaner ways to get the energy we need without lowering the standard of living or raising the cost of living too high, we would have found it already. Nothing wrong with searching for it of course. But ethanol sure ain't it and neither is the Volt.
well they may not be trying but the outcome is the same. Can we continue to raise our standard of living without impacting the earth? Perhaps, but that will not solve anything. Americans need to learn what sacrifice means. Without it, we are heading for disaster, imo. If crying would help, I'd cry an ocean. I believe we are beyond help.
lady, I live in a climate that has hot, dry summers and long, sometimes cold winters. I know I'm fortunate because I don't need air conditioning. I've learned to adapt comfortably because our nights are very cool (mostly temps drop into the 50's) and if you open up windows at night and close them down (as well drawing the curtains) in the morn, your house can stay cool. Having trees on the southwest corner of your house helps immensely. In the winter, I heat with wood.
I was in NYC a week ago and I grew up in NY State. I know misery. You can have it.
I also realize that not everyone has the luxury of being able to open windows at night, unless they have bars on them. Another sad testament to how our society has degenerated.
Thanks treehugger. People are trying to do their best with what is at hand.
BTW, it was already proven that Cap and Trade wouldn't do anything to change the temperature of the earth one because the regs would be minimal plus, since China and other places like that wouldn't do anything about it, if our output went down, theirs would continue to rise, making us break even basically.
So it's all nice talk, dear, but its unrealistic.
Again, if you want to sacrifice, feel free. There is nothing in the Constitution that gives the gov't the right to tell me to sacrifice.
Well I live in the southwest and we can do the same – open windows when it is cool and not using as much air conditioning. It's great for us financially but it's OUR CHOICE, which is the point I've been making. We tried it the way the "energy experts" told us to do it, keeping the thermostat at 80 when we weren't home and programming it to turn on before we returned home. Didn't work – it ran for like 12 hours before it went to 78. Instead, we open windows in the morning that weren't open the night before and keep the house cool. The air doesn't go on until afternoon if it's really hot and sometimes not at all.
Winter is similar but in reverse.
See, we made the choice OURSELVES and what works well for us. Our bills are low compared to others in the neighborhood. And we didn't need the gov't telling us what to do.
Yeah, but that's not the fault of the right; that's the lack of morality.
yep, I like trees. Something wrong with that?
cap and trade is not the answer. reducing consumption is. I am not so dumb that I think this will happen. No, I believe our civilization will go down before we destroy the planet. When things get progressively worse and more environmental disasters tax our already fragile economy, civil unrest will speed up our demise. I am an Anthropologist by training. I have studied civilization collapse. Do you realize there has NEVER been a civilization that has NOT collapsed? Most people don't realize that we are doomed to repeat history. Blissful ignorance is the norm. I'm jealous.
I don't fault the right for everything, lady. I fault our society. We are all to blame. Call it lack of morality, but we can't solve our problems with laws or by a return to "Reaganomics." That already proved to be a failure. Why do so many on the right forget that?
We all like trees – they make great books. LOL!
Look, we all understand conservation and preservation, but in different ways. You seem to want to bring us down to the Third World level. I say no thank you.
Of course all civilizations fall. But we can at least try to last a little longer.
lol lady. I think I like you.
I like books and I like to think we can save civilization if we just slowed down a bit. But sadly, I doubt we will figure that out until it's too late. It's probably already too late, so I figure I might as well enjoy life to the max. So tonight I'm sipping on Long Island Iced Tea. It's the next best thing to being at the Jersey Shore. haha
I hope you are smarter than me lady. maybe u are right. Are you right handed lady? I am a lefty, brain-wise and politically. can't help meself.
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