And you know how politically incorrect he is…
This, lest we forget, is what free speech is all about.
For some other views on the meaning of the Ground Zero mosque, please read Jeffrey Kuhner’s essay in the Washington Times, as well as Andy McCarthy’s response to it and to Jonah Goldberg’s rather more sanguine view, both of which you can find over at NRO’s “The Corner.”
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Who else but the west would celebrate diversity by embracing those who would kill them?
Time for all true Americans to stop it now. We will not be defeated, unless we just throw in the towel. Wake up America!!!!!
There may still be hope this atrocious slap in the face may not happen. We can only keep our faith and pray this story is true and sanity prevails. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/half...
All civilizations eventually collapse. But only Western Civilization repeatedly commits suicide. The good news is that it is continually reborn into something better, but only after centuries of agony.
Let's skip the agony folks and get the show on the road–The show being a renewed belief in the exceptionalism that is America.
What New Yorkers have been doing doesn't seem to be making a difference. Why is this all sliding into
place as if the skids have been greased? Who gets the benefit when all these grand plans fall into place
like clock-work? No large project moves forward without a hitch, perhaps we need to step back and reas-
sess and search for a better plan. Me thinks the opposition needs a PR adviser. There are bound to be
PR firms needing work in this recessionary market.
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If you want to see these sort of things stop happening, vote Democrats and RINOs out FOREVER.
Anti-American = Islam, Muslims, Democrats, Obama, Mainstream Media. Wake up!!
Those who can't recognize their enemies, won't survive.
I sent Pat Condell's video to everyone i know. What will it take to wake up America? I used to respect Bloomberg but he has proven that we have two classes in America with diametrically opposed views.
The ruling class wants this Islamic victory symbol of America erected–an obsolute insult to America. They mock the Constitution every chance they get but here use it to moralize to us about our need to respect other "religions".
The American people know this is a ploy. We know that free speech cannot be invoked for a cause that calls for our destruction. The tipping point has be reached.
Why does it take a Brit comic to drive this message home?
This is something a patriotic President should have said.. PC running amok…
Islam should be declared a cult, and as such, be afforded NO 1st amendment privileges..
This thing is a travesty against all who perished on 9-11…
Progressives.
Without the wisdom or willingness of our elected officials and regular citizens to stand firm in the face of these extremists (as the Imam building this mosque has repeatedly shown), we will look pretty stupid. I hope they let me wear a pink burka.
It's all about greed,money,kickbacks,Saudi money works wonders when it's time to get things moving in this country,the Bushes were beholden to the Saudi's as well as our Muslim President.I tend to think Saudi money has purchased quite a few fellows in our government,Islam will show these traitors no mercy if they ever take over,but hey,eat drink and be merry TODAY,who cares about tomorrow.
You can only shake your head in befuddlement: Those who are most anxious to demand "tolerance" for radical views of any kind — whether Marxist/communist or Islamofascist — should they get their way, will be the first ones lined up against a wall or beheaded/stoned to death, depending on which version of fascism prevails.
I have never heard of Pat Condell, but he speaks with a fire and truth that is sadly missing in our elected officials.
He how does not know history is doomed to repeat it. It has happened so many time oyu would think they would know by know.
Thanks Republic,
Can we hammer ConEd and this approval board? hummmm……
uh yeh
will it work…..
uh….when the real backers of this project, Bloomberg et all start slinging wads of money at people…
total crap shoot.
but we can try. at least we have two new groups to target now with protests.
You're right, RadioMatt — but they (the progressives) are so much smarter than the rest of us.
Sarc/off
There's a clip of a former KGB officer being interviewed, talking about useful idiots and how they always thought they'd be in the "elite" circles but were the first ones "lined up against the wall" — I've been looking for that clip, but (darn!) didn't jot down or copy the URL and can't remember where I stumbled across it. Great perspective it gives, though.
cornpone,
a wise man once said FOLLOW THE MONEY.
In a nutshell, that could NOT be worded better.
Brilliant.
Personally, I don't think the mosque will ever be built. And if it is, it'll stink to high heaven of pigs blood.
Just sayin'
Unreal. Just unreal.
well put,…… we have enough grassroots support to end this insult . the enablers who are not listening to the will of the people will pay big time.lets hope if this does get started there will be many delays… if you get my drift, and will be abandoned. the brit is right… islam only respects power.we have stand up for whats right, and stopped being pushed around by foreigners,p.c.,and the minority lefties. lets come out strong november 2.
It would be a real shame if they get it built and there was, heaven forbid, "an accident" like a natural gas leak that exploded or something and killed 3000 Islamists died because of faulty workmanship. Just saying, that would be a real shame huh?
Mr. Condell has hit the nail squarely on the head with his video.
The United States was not setup to be a suicide pact, but it is seeming to be headed toward an assisted suicide. And, the approval to build this mosque is a step toward it.
Check out the term "Taqiyya" as it applies to Islam. I believe that we are seeing a form of taqiyya at this time.
Can anyone provide a single shred of evidence that allowing the mosque to open will make Muslims love us? Or even hate us less?
That would be terrible.
A shame.
A damned shame.
Have any evidence that will actually back that statement up?
Dear British people,
For your own sake and your own survival: please make this man your next Prime Minister.
If Prince Charles ever sees this video, his royal head will go through the ceiling.
Thanks for posting the link. Let me get this straight – In 2006 Con Ed gave them a lease until 2071 for their 1/2 of the building???? Who the heck in the business world would EVER do something like that, especially a utility? Is that type of lease standard for NY? WOW…. sounds like something's been cooking (quietly behind the scenes) for the last 4 years. I still can't figure out why anyone would agree to this, all PC aside, I think there is a deeper story yet to be uncovered. But, that could be my skeptical mindset, at this point as I haven't seen sanity prevail in the last 19 months.
Are you noticing….. Saudi money to Harvard during Kagan's reign and she pushed for Islamic studies while there and let's not forget for the push for Shariah law here. The media makes mention of how much of our debt the Chinese own. I'm wondering how much of our Gov. the Saudi's control from behind the scenes with their money. It is truly frightening what is happening to our country.
WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM – IN 1899!
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet
rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the
next of its dignity and sanctity.
The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as
his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must
delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased
to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid
qualities – but the influence of the religion paralyses the social
development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists
in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and
proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa,
raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity
is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it
had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell
the civilization of ancient Rome."
-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages
248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).
Hopefully the firefighters will be delayed because they are too busy saving U.S. loving citizens or maybe a traffic delay due to a car accident(s) that block their route. But, I'm SURE it wouldn't be caused by faulty workmanship…….
N.Y. Times says the mosque would be a 'monument to tolerance'. Islam is a cancer. Cancer must be stopped before it spreads.
Are you serious? Who the hell needs any additional evidence to know how they feel about the West. They already proved that with their terrorism on 9/11, and continuing attempts here in the U.S. and worldwide as well. Not sure what your point was, so maybe I missed something. Study up a bit. If you're not with them 100%, they are against you as you are an infidel. If you do not convert 100% you die. This is not a religion, they believe it to be the law that must be enforced. Ask the women that are subjected to Sharia law how they feel. Get a clue before you post, OK?
Thank you for posting that. Hopefully the dreadful trolls (and the PC crowd) will get educated and understand this.
Non-bigoted ones
Disgusting. Openly wishing for the death of innocent people just because of their religion and where they choose to worship–you're no better than terrorists you claim to despise.
Hilarious–he's complaining that Nazis and Islam are bad because they divide the world into us versus them. Take a look in a mirror, buddy.
Great video from Pat Condell. Wish it would get national airplay. I so hope that enough public opinion groundswell will force Mayor BloomingClueless to reverse his and the Landmark Council's warped decision. Nothing short of an overwhelmingly enormous and vocal outcry will serve the turn. Thousands should be protesting the Mayor's office with non-stop phone calls, faxes, emails and handwritten letters. Where are all the victim's families? Why aren't full-page op-ed ads not being put in the New York Slimes calling for a stop to this deliberate insult?
New Yorkers: If you remain silent your children, grandchildren, and onwards will all think your weak-kneed, sniveling cowards every time they see that mosque, for not standing up to these liberal morons and their jihadist buddies. C'mon! We know New Yorkers are tough..show em' what your made of, and get out there in droves. Time for a Times' Square rally and march straight to the Mayor's office. The entire Ground Zero area should be declared forever off-limits to Islam on the same symbolic grounds by which they are attempting to thumb their noses at all America.
I'm not sure what it takes in NYC for permits, bonding, insurance, etc., for this type of project but I'm certain many. Since the PC politicians don't give a rat's A what Americans think, maybe it's time to take on the companies, that will be involved outside of the politicians. If they can't get the construction bonds or insurance…… Can they still proceed? Every step of the way demand a hearing in front of the agencies that issue the permits. Find out the name of those that post the bonds or issue insurance and post it here. Even those of us out of state will contact them to protest. Don't leave out the contractors who get the contracts. But, on a positive note, I understand there is an effort from the blue collar guys who will refuse to work on the project. If they do, that will certainly at least delay it.
Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9/11. Say "NO" to a mosque at Ground Zero!
Pat Condell is no friend of ours, fellow conservatives. He despises the American right. Let's make that clear.
Their acts on 9/11 and others prove everything to me about their intent, their attitude, and this should be stopped. Period. Dead cold in it's tracks. Diversity, Dishmirshity, it needs to NOT happen!!
Wake up New Yorkers……..wake up America!!
Tolerance, you mean the same tolerance that was shown to the civilian medical team in Afghanistan for being Christian?
Yes, America has lost it's mind.
Is there a mosque near you? How about just strolling by and perhaps leaving a BLT in their doorstep as an offering to show how much you appreciate their religion of peace. A little Jimmy Dean pork sausage shoved up an appropriate orifice isn't a bad idea, either. Man… Time to DO something.
They should not build the mosque there because Americans are offended by it. We have the right to be offended. Why are we being told "too bad if you are offended". The same people who are saying it is ok are the same ones that cower and give in to any other group that hollers that they are offended.
We're not all conservatives here, Tom. I'm Libertarian. And he may despise the right, but he despises the Muslims far more… and he makes a lot of sense in this video, even if you don't agree with his other opinions.
The vote which took place in NY is a culmination of years of voters voting for what they want or want they wanted to be taken away from someone else. Basically, greed and jealousy. The voter, over decades, voted and voted, and something took root in their minds, some progressive view of ‘equality’ and ‘social justice’, which finally came home to roost.
Should the vote be a surprise? I say not.
Yep Stomp, it seems the RULING CLASS have bowed down and embraced their inner dhimmi-
tude already. What a shame, a crying damn shame the ELITE evidently are ready to embrace
Islam and all it's tenets. Perhaps they believe this will make them last in line to be eaten by the
gator?
Money, perhaps? But I have three granddaughters, don't know if you have any, but if you do/did
how much money would it take for you to be OK for them to have their genitals mutilated as is
customary in some Islamic sects? It can't ALWAYS be all about money, perhaps it's ignorance
of what they (the elite) embrace.
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When all religions are represented in this "community center", I will accept its construction. Until then, forget it.
CCL,
Can't say i agree with you on this one. Plenty of union bosses would be only too happy to get paid a premium while currying favor with the state. And if they cannot find union workers to do it, they will create a new "muslim workers union" to do the work.
CCL,
"It'll never go thru"…That's what i heard from so many experts about Obamacare. We have 2 classes now in America. The ruling class does what it wants. Period. The only way to change it is to vote them out of power and — at least in NYC — i don't see that happening.
Maybe that's why Barry returned the scupture of Churchill back to the Brits.
Nothing hilarious here. To Nazis, it was the Germanic race vs. everyone else. To Muslims, it's the believers vs. the infidels. Anti-semitism was is fundamental to both. The parallels are obvious to everyone except twisted Liberals like you. I guess you still believe that Islam is the "religion of peace". Mohammad was a terrorist and his "religion" is not compatible with America.
AML,
You and many others posting here do not seem to understand how ingrained political correctness is in our institutions. It's not just the politicians. Remember when the pathetic general George Casey came out with this pathetic statement after the Ft. Hood islamo-facist massacre?
"As great a tragedy as this was, it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well"
PC is all over. It's overtaken our military. Our schools. Even our police. I am sure Bloomberg will give extra protection to this Mosque. Don't expect the NYPD to stand up against the Pols.
I'm papering the Bigs today with this link. Seems when Cordoba Project "bought" the Burlington Coat Factory….they only got HALF of it. The OTHER HALF is owned by ConEd. And nobody has bought that half yet.
How can we the people let ConEd know we'd appreciate it very much if they would NOT SELL GROUND ZERO OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THAT HOLE IN THE GROUND?
Cordoba needs that half for their project. Can't build without it….least not the frikking 15 story tribute to murder and mayhem they WANT to build. HUMMMMM…….:-))))))
* http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/half....
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ConED CONTACT INFO:
email: customerservice@coned.com.
By phone: 1-800-752-6633
In writing:
Con Edison
Cooper Station
P.O. Box 138
New York, NY 10276-0138
You don't suppose Bloomberg has any relations with the House of Saud, do you? I mean, besides feeling he is in the same (ruling) class with them?
Actually it looks like someone's following the money, cornpone…in fact lots of someones.
NY Gov for one, Geraldo and a raft of investigative journalists for another, and here's a story that should make your day on this mosque deal anyway….someone didn't do their homework on the Burlington Coat Factory contract.
OOOPS!
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/half...
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And as for this PC crap… been around since Civil Rights. And I see it's ALIVE AND WELL HERE, if you read Gut's "Dutch girl to sail around the world" thread yesterday. People ASSUME they're ENTITLED to meddle in everyone's business and render judgement.
News flash!
They ain't!
My gold standard is simple:
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DON'T "SHOULD" ON ME AND I WON'T "SHOULD" ON YOU!
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Hahahahahaha
No. Nobody but a Saudi is a member of the House of Saud, and plenty of them are "iffy."
Bloomberg may not not even a member of the group Homo Sapiens Sapiens. It's entirely possible he was minted at the FED during YET ANOTHER MINDLESS PRINTING OF WORTHLESS FIAT DOLLARS. Or he could be a Quisling.
Yoiu know all those moron politicians that have backed this nonsense have guaranteed their loss in the next elections. I'm curious to understand their line of thinking that this would make them more popular despite all the push back. Do they have some large voting group standing there chanting…"Your doing a good job, keep it up"?
You would think since most politicians only care about the next election that this type of thing wouldn't be possible.
There is still hope. Say what you want about trade unions, but seldom have I ever met a more proud group of Americans than this nations' steel workers and craftsmen. It will be a very sad day if these men and women succumb to the whims of a few and actually build this mosque.
LMAO, you're philosophy seems to mirror mine Stomp, Mind jer own damn bidness,
and I'll be mindin mine. Didn't Hank have a song along that line?
I just hope New Yorkers have the fortitude to keep up this fight, someone needs to be
dogging these principals in this deal like Columbo. Deals of this nature (long term leases,
etc.) are so much easier to prevent rather than rescind. Surely someone local to the area
would have upped the ante if they had known beforehand that a mosque was planned. Of
course there is always the possibility that most New Yorkers are detached and just don't GAS.
The whole thing is too far out of my realm to pretend to grasp, Hell I'm too small-town to
understand or be passing judgment on the big-city folks.
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Pat Condell is a bigot that hates all religions, and has said so in previous videos, I wouldnt run off to make him Prime Minister just yet….
Yes in this one he is correct, but I cannot like the man.
I loved that part about islam NOT being a religion, but a political ideology of hate, much like the nazis.
So true.
Again, the difference between "right" and "wrong", between "terrorists" and "freedom fighters", is in the motivation. Offensive posture (attack) vs. defensive posture (defend). Everything is NOT "relative", and these distinctions MATTER.
Head meet Sand.
Sand meet Head.
You meathead.
And Christopher Hitchens is insufferable to me when he's not talking about Islam. When they're right, however, they're right, and the nail has been hit squarely on the head in this instance.
This is, give or take, the most offensive thing that could've been done. What, islamists couldn't fly Osama bin Laden in to p*** on the mass grave at Ground Zero?
Maybe next we can enjoy a gallery of Adolf Hitler's art in the first floor of the Anne Frank museum.
Nah, unlike this insult, that would never happen; Germans, collectively, actually feel shame at their past madness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odLPx7mebzs
'Ground zero mosque" song is intended to provide a moment of reflection and hopefully provoke some to research this religion and its character.
Yeah, like "BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM" and other nice little ditties, kinda like those, right, twisted?
Was it this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE38dLxapVo
Thanks for this link, Cheesehoven; I'm pretty sure this is the same former KGB officer, and it could have been part of the same interview or by the same interviewer, but I don't think it was the same clip.
“GROUND ZERO MOSQUE” song / video.
The concept for this particular song is derived solely in point of the location of this building. It is my opinion that “this location” of a mosque will give our “islamic terrorists” enemy a morale boost. This is aiding and giving comfort to our enemies and strengthens their resolve. Protect our troops do not aid our enemy in any way. All men are created equal all men's actions are not.
Thank you.
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