Hard to believe, but true: the network actually presented both sides of the story, instead of the usual sob-sister boo-hoo about the “plight” of illegal “immigrants” who know that — thanks to a willful misrepresentation of the meaning of the 14th Amendment by the left– if they can just stagger across the finish line, a new life in el Norte awaits.
Of course, this was in 2008, before the Era of Obama. This is what is happening today.
Just for fun, here’s the actual text of the 14th Amendment. Section One is the operative statement:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
That’s right — the Amendment that helped make full citizens of African-Americans is today cited to defend anchor babies.
According to the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868 to ensure citizenship for the newly emancipated African Americans, “all persons, born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was intended to exclude from automatic citizenship American-born persons whose allegiance to the United States was incomplete. For example, Native Americans were excluded from American citizenship because of their tribal jurisdiction. Also not subject to American jurisdiction were foreign visitors, ambassadors, consuls, and their babies born here. In the case of illegal aliens, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Therefore, some Constitutional scholars argue that the completeness of the allegiance to the United States is impaired and logically precludes automatic citizenship. However, this issue has never been directly decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Who wants to bet it will be… just as soon as the Court has a secure 5-4 liberal majority.
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It's important to realize what the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments are about. All were to fulfill Pres Lincoln's freeing the slaves …
They are the Civil War 'Reconstruction Amendments'. 13th Abolishes Slavery 14th Deals with citizenship and prevents former rebels from holding federal or state office without Congressional approval 15th Forbids the removal of the franchise on grounds of race (among other things)
The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments are most often referred to as the "Reconstruction Amendments." They are all lumped together because they were passed during Reconstruction (immediately following the end of the Civil War) to end the Democrat's slavery and give former slaves some civil rights.
The 13th Amendment: officially ended slavery and prohibited it for the future.
The 14th Amendment: declared that former slaves were citizens and required that states provide everyone equal protection under the law. It also confers 2nd Amendment rights on freed slaves, one thing the slave holding Democrats did not want to happen(read Justice Thomas' 'Chicago decision, it's chock full of history and guns').
The 15th Amendment: guaranteed voting rights for citizens regardless of race, color, or previous condition of servitude (slavery)
They do not apply to modern Anchor babies, that is a perversion of their original meaning.
If we repealed the 17th Amendment all would be well.
We could solve this problem tomorrow if we just limited a green card holders from bringing in their extended families.Congress won't do this because they are all potential democrat voters. Many Rino republicans want cheap labor ,so the rest of us have to pay up. November or bust!
At no time in my lifetime has the assassination of a Justice been more likely.
Politics has corrupted freedom, justice and liberty.
If the Democrats thought thought these new "citizens* and anchor babies would vote Republican, the entire might of our Armed Forces would be arrayed on the border and the entire length would be mined. Those crossing illegally, shot on sight.
Any political party that puts its survival and agenda ahead of what is best for the Republic is not only selfish, but dangerous and must be marginalized.
The entire Democrat Party is a 5Th column against the Constitution.
I've felt for a long time that there is a "Star Chamber" being planned as we speak…
Not saying it's right, but lifetime appointments can be hazardous to one's health…
"Green card holders" are lawful permanent residents. Their status is lawful immigrant. They are subject to all the laws, without exception (including selective service). They may not hold office; they may not vote; there are a certain number of jobs in government they may not hold. They used to have to pass health-screens. They used to have prove good character. They used to be subject to background checks, and a two-year conditional status if they were granted their status through marriage. I have no idea how or why people with green cards ARE bringing in their extended families, unless they are putting up significant bonds (I think it used to be 250,000 or something) and swearing to act as guarantors.
Lawful permanent residents are not the problem, unless the system has been gutted and applied affirmatively *cough* which it might have been given some of the legitimate green card holders I have seen, and some of the applicants that I know that have been refused…
The problem as I see it is this:
people on non-immigrant visas simply overstaying.
people here on no visa whatsoever.
people in Congress and interest groups deliberately skewing and dumbing-down lawful immigration (quotas) to favor certain national and ethnic groups over others: this latter has been going on for at least 30 years btw, and they don't even hide the fact – in other words, U.S. LAWFUL immigration has been subject to it's own affirmative action system, and it still is. I don't think most Americans even dream that LAWFUL immigration suffers under this.
I've heard Republicans and conservatives make the point that now is not the time to push this issue because the left will be able to mischaracterize and frame it as racist and xenophobic.
The title of this piece alone tells us that the media is idealogically aligned with the left on this issue.
I got an idea: let's just make the rest of the world the 51st state.
I would be very surprised if, some high level politician or justice doesn't get popped in the next 12 mos.
They're all humming la-la-la with their fingers in their ears. The great uniter overseeing the most poisonous political atmosphere of modern times smug, arrogant and condescending. A kong-ress that refuses to reflect the will of it's constituents because, only some of it's constituents matter. What a pantload.
An 11% approval rating and they couldn't …..care …..less.
"…the left will ALWAYS … mischaracterize and frame it as racist and xenophobic." it is what they do. waiting will not change this simple reality.
CBS covering this? Only to piss off the left and progressives.
You are exactly right.
If the court would review this issue in the light of original intent, as they did with Heller, the present ruling would be overturned in a heartbeat.
Obviously, some congressmen believe a new law will correct the problem faster.
Or do they?
Is this just so much noise? The politician can lead this parade, knowing full well it will go nowhere. They get the headline with no risk.
I think what is needed is a solid case before the supreme court. Let them reverse the former ruling.
Often times i see that the supreme court has not decided on this issue etc. The truth is that the supreme court is no longer conscienced by the law or our countries founding principles. They all speak of their own personal values and beliefs. If this were not true we would not see SO many decisions based down party lines. The judges should be impartial and deliver verdicts based upon the law not their "social conscience".
Illegal Immigration is just that. It is illegal. This should not even be a argument in a law abiding nation such as ours. The laws should be enforced and enforced rigoursly. We are letting our federal government get away with too much of it's own personal agenda. The law is the law and should be enforced.
Ahh, but this is the problem. In order to get it to the Supreme Court, we need a lawsuit. Nobody has standing to sue except the illegal immigrant. So in order to get to the Supreme Court, we would need to have ICE attempt to deport an anchor baby first.
Of course, that's not going to happen.
I should have qualified my original post.
Now meaning before the Nov. elections since that will allow the Dinosaur lefty media to paint the Rep. as racist xenophobes and throw more votes to the Democrats.
It also seems to me that it was making sure that children of Citizens were guaranteed citizenship and that no foreign power in their ancestry could retain allegiance. i.e. just because I am of Scottish decent does not protect me under their laws. Just my opinion though.
I think todays brainiacs try to compare the words to todays issues when they should just focus on what they meant in that time period. Would clear up a whole lot of issues.
Then again if our founding fathers would have drafted it with less "educated" wording and simply just said, "Your father a citizen? Then you a citizen. You were born here? Then our laws govern your ass.
Having my baby, what a wonderful way to say how much you love me
Gets me lots of benefits, health care, and a government check for free
I sit with me friends and talk about this nation
How unfare that they do't celebrate my cultural creations
My anchor baby has given me a life of taxpayer funded security!
This amendment needs to be changed. Let them come in legally.
Apologies to Elvis
you got that right! Clarence Thomas should be more fearful for his life than Obama.
it's interesting to note that most Mexicans are more aligned with the conservatives than they are with the liberals….giving them what they want now does not guarantee that they will vote 'D' forever.
You have to marvel the selective use of the language in the 14th amendment. It also breathtaking how the left, and their supporters in the media, completely ignore the overwhelming fact that illegal is illegal. Or to put this in terms that even the illiterate can understand, illegal is not a sick bird, it is against the law. There should no argument here. If they are here unlawfully/illegally, the only thing they are entitled to is deportation or a jail term if they have committed additional crimes after illegally entering the country. But don't get lost in the minutia or the clever twisting of the terminology being practiced by the other side. Giving the anchor babies citizenship is how they are able to argue for "immigration reform". If allow the left to dictate the vernacular of the argument, we will lose.
THE FACTS DON’T LIE?
It's very difficult to discover any significant information about the scourge of the 14th Amendment, as we have today. This is principally because information has never been collected intentionally or otherwise, so we must rely on what is available; buried deeply in the pages of the internet? FOR MORE OPPRESSIVE FACTS, GO TO THIS PDF WEBPAGE? A report by Madeleine Pelner Cosman in the spring issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons 2005., It augments from a small fire that is turning into a conflagration. She says, “By not addressing this abuse of the Fourteenth Amendment and enforcing immigration law, the funds that state and local governments must provide to anchor babies amounts to a virtual tax on U.S. citizens to subsidize illegal aliens.
The increasing number of illegal aliens coming into the United States is forcing the closure of hospitals, spreading previously vanquished diseases and threatening to destroy America's prized health-care system," The author writes, ""born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income." She adds that Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985, hospitals are obligated to treat the uninsured without reimbursement. "Illegal alien women come to the hospital in labor and drop their little anchors, each of whom pulls its illegal alien mother, father, and siblings into permanent residency simply by being born within our borders.
Anchor babies are citizens, and instantly qualify for public welfare aid: Between 300,000 and 350,000 anchor babies annually become citizens because of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside." In conclusion The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons report includes a strong prescription for protecting the health of Americans:
* Closing America's borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops. (But remember the real 2006 Secure Fence Act, was designed as two parallel fences. Not just–ONE–? It doesn't seem to be turning on a light bulb in America’s brain, that two fences were supposed to be constructed adjacent to each other, with a roadway in between for interdiction of every type of criminal, including the millions of illegal aliens.) It’s time this question is asked of Senator Harry Reid and the dismantling of permanent E-Verify?
* Rescinding the U.S. citizenship of "anchor babies."
* Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime. (That means employers with a prison sentence for habitual offenders.)
* An end to—ALL– amnesty programs.
It should be noted that based on data collected in California for AFDC's “children only” cases, the California Department of Social Services estimated that in fiscal 1994-1995, 193,800 children of illegal aliens received welfare, costing $553 million. One should wonder the ever increasing costs of supporting the anchor child, as food stamps and Section 8 housing can be applied for. One should wonder the ever increasing costs of supporting the anchor child, as food stamps and Section 8 housing can be applied for. One should also be aware that the mother, who is always allowed to stay, probably becomes pregnant at least twice more, of which the US taxpayer once again becomes the benefactor. In addition because the family is low income, they can apply for TANF, of which the baby receives a free car chair, diapers and much more compliments of Americans.
There are various undisclosed federal and state entitlement, which are denied to American mothers because our politicians are too busy catering to the less fortunate. This exploitation of the 14th Amendment is not necessary from expectant mothers from across the Southern border, but every year thousands converge on the unknowing taxpayer who coughs up the money to pay for subsidizing the life’s of whole families, after a new anchor baby is born. This unwholesome situation would become far worse as any new hype for AMNESTY, would induce millions more to reach the borders, plus the stream would never end. To stop any more illegals coming to America, we must first remove every Pro-Amnesty lawmaker, then implement permanently E-Verify and place troops on the border. Learn more at NUMBERUSA & JUDICIAL WATCH and call without delay your public servants in Washington at 202-224-3121
Time to spill their beans; so draw near and listen closely. The topic for the day is the anchor baby disability scam. It goes like this. Anchor baby is born. Anchor baby has a disability, Anchor baby on SSI/Disability for 18 years. Parents then take anchor baby and move back to Mexico. Anchor baby is thrown in the proverbial ditch of life and mom and dad collect $1,000 to $2,000 per month. That buys a whole lot of tacos ladies.
You cannot have a welfare state with open borders and no accountability, that is suicide.
Prove me wrong Big Journalism.
My dad is a resident alien (Green card holder). He pays his taxes and if he could vote in our elections would vote conservitive Republican. We can't stand illegal aliens; they need to go through the proper legal channels to get here. Just like my ancestors and some of my more immediate family members.
Where have you been living?
Didn't you know Obomination declared there were 57 states in 2007?
It must be true since I heard on the MSM that he is a genius (yes he is when compared to them).
I stand corrected: the 58th state.
I know!! I mean I am upset enough to think about, but the real crazies out there are acutally quite capable of doing it.
The 1866 Congressional debates confirm that the two citizenship clauses — the one in the 14th Amendment, and the one in the 1866 Civil Rights Act — were intended to have the same meaning and effect. During those debates, the primary framers of the 14th Amendment citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob Howard and Sen. Lyman Trumbull, made it clear that "jurisdiction", as used in the 14th Amendment, means sole and complete U.S. jurisdiction, i.e., not subject to any foreign power:
Sen. Lyman Trumbull: The provision is, that "all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens." That means "subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof." What do we mean by "complete jurisdiction thereof?" Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.
Sen. Jacob Howard: [I] concur entirely with the honorable Senator from Illinois [Trumbull], in holding that the word "jurisdiction," as here employed, ought to be construed so as to imply a full and complete jurisdiction on the part of the United States, coextensive in all respects with the constitutional power of the United States, whether exercised by Congress, by the executive, or by the judicial department; that is to say, the same jurisdiction in extent and quality as applies to every citizen of the United States now.
A person born in this country, to a citizen of another country is not subject to the 'full and complete jurisdiction' of the United States.
The final quoted passage is not factually correct.
And the Supreme Court has ruled in a similar case: U.S. v Wong Kim Ark http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?...
Wong Kim Ark was the son of two Chinese immigrants who were not citizens. At the time of the case, though not at the time of his birth, Chinese people could not become naturalized citizens at all.
The Supreme Court held that Wong Kim Ark was an American by virtue of being born in the U.S. even though his parents were not citizens. His parents were not tourists, but they were effectively just "visitors", guest workers with an unspecified limit on the duration of their stay in the U.S.
So there very much does exist a precedent for the children of non-citizen, "temporary" residents, being citizens under the 14th Amendment, and that such non-citizens are very much "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" of the United States.
I think CBS needs to check it's math. They used the figure of $1.1 billion as the cost of all illegal alien health per year and less than a minute later Joe Riley of the Macallan Health Center said his medical group had over $200 million dollars of uncovered health care bills alone just last year.
Unless Macallan single handedly treated 20% of all illegal aliens in this country last year I think CBS needs to correct their number.
$1.1 billion wouldn't even cover what California pays for America' newest bundles of joy.
While I am glad they reported on the problem the coverage was a little sloppy.
Yer outa heah!
It seems like that's what we are headed for unfortunately
well said but those same people naturalized by the fact they were born here grow up and fly a flag of another country obviously giving their allegiance to it.
Let's put together the vote damn it….let's get 'er done!!!
thats heavy sh**!!……….watch out for a van in your area…smoked out windows…just joking…i admit i backed off from posting something close to that.. your first line….thanks***
what has this country become?………Get'er done!!!!…….
The fleecing of America……….we are gettin fu**ed!…..
"The phenomenon of "anchor babies" come not from the 14th Amendment but from 1965's Immigration and Naturalization Act. The reason, according to NPR, was because, the central purpose of the new immigration law was to reunite families.
Until President Johnson signed the act into law, immigrant visas were governed by the Immigration Act of 1924. By the early 1960s, this act was seen to have its own set of problems…."
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