The U.S. is the great enemy of mankind! Against those hyenas there is no option but extermination!… If the nuclear missiles had remained (in Cuba) we would have fired them against the heart of the U.S. including New York City!…. We will bring the war to the (U.S.) imperialists enemies’ very home, to his places of work and recreation. The imperialist enemy (the U.S.) must feel like a hunted animal wherever he moves! Thus we’ll destroy (the U.S.!) The solutions to the world’s problems lie behind the Iron Curtain. The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims! We must keep our hatred against them (the U.S.) alive and fan it to paroxysms!
That was Ernesto “Che” Guevara , in his message to the Tri-Continental Conference, Havana 1966.
“I’m like Che Guevara with a bling on!”
That was Rapper Jay-Z, whom President Obama recently invited to sit under the U.S. Presidential Seal in the same White House that Jay-Z’s hero craved to incinerate with nuclear missiles.

OK, fine, Obamabots and MSM……? Perhaps you don’t object to having, as an honored guest of our White House, and sitting under your nation’s very Presidential Seal, a sympathizer with a Stalinist who craved to incinerate your nation? That’s one thing.
But how about having, by special invitation to the White House by your president, and sitting under your presidential seal — a “useful idiot?”
From his diaries, I give you Ernesto “Che” Guevara himself:
The Negro is indolent and spends his money on frivolities and booze, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent… The negro has maintained his racial purity by his well known habit of avoiding baths.
In fact, this is not Obama people’s first public brush with Che Guevara. In Feb. 2008 Houston’s Fox TV station interviewed some Obama campaign volunteers (a precinct captain and head of the “Houston Obama Leadership Team”) who had festooned their offices with Che Guevara banners and Cuban flags… The MSM kept mum, but the conservative blogosphere spread the story. Intrepid blogger Henry Gomez (Babalu Blog), then uncovered 15 different pages of Che Guevara well-wishers on the official Obama campaign site.
More interestingly, those Che Guevara posters had not been hung by a young volunteer who dug the cool looking dude’s awesome guitar licks for the Smashing Pumpkins, nor by an older one who thought she remembered the groovy guy with the beret “hangin” with Wavy Gravy at Woodstock. No, the campaign volunteer who hung the Che poster is named Maria Isabel and according to the Lone Star Times, she had hung similar banners from her balcony at home.
Most interestingly, she is a middle-aged woman who was born in Cuba and lived there as a child during the very period when Che Guevara was Cuba’s chief executioner and second in command. At the time Cuba had the highest political incarceration and execution rate on earth, far surpassing that of their Soviet mentors and suitors.
As a public service for Jay-Z and Obama staffers, I provide the following: Ernesto “Che” Guevara was second in command, chief executioner, and chief KGB liaison for a regime that outlawed elections and private property. This regime’s KGB-supervised police – employing the midnight knock and the dawn raid among other devices – rounded up and jailed more political prisoners as a percentage of population than Stalin’s and executed more people (out of a population of 6.4 million) in its first three years in power than Hitler’s executed (out of a population of 70 million) in its first six.
But don’t misinterpret Che Guevara’s bluster with actual bravery. His stock in trade was the mass-murder of defenseless men and boys — bound and gagged is how he demanded his victims. On Oct. 8, 1967, upon finally encountering armed and determined enemies, Che quickly dropped his fully-loaded weapons and whimpered: “Don’t shoot! I’m Che! I’m worth more to you alive than dead!”

Che Guevara’s regime also shattered – through executions, jailings, mass larceny and exile – virtually every family on the island of Cuba. Many opponents of the Cuban regime qualify as the longest-suffering political prisoners in modern history, having suffered prison camps, forced labor and torture chambers for a period three times as long in Che Guevara’s Gulag as Alexander Solzhenytzin suffered in Stalin’s Gulag. But please, please, please don’t bother looking for any History Channel, NPR, or 20/20 interviews with these heroes. They were victims’ of the Left’s premier poster boys, you see.

The regime Che Guevara co-founded stole the savings and property of 6.4 million citizens, made refugees of 20 per cent of the population from a nation formerly deluged with immigrants and whose citizens had achieved a higher standard of living than those residing in half of Europe.
Under Che Guevara’s rule “change” indeed came to Cuba.






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Che and Barrack.
Change we can believe in.
To quote Charles Krauthamer: "In order to become disillusioned, one must first have been illusioned". I never was.
We need to get control back of our Nation's schools, the progressives are propagandizing out kids right under our noses…
Jay-Z, while useful, isn't an idiot. He knew what he was saying. The illusion of ignorance with these people isn't what it seems to be. Many of them fully appreciate and accept what Che Guevara did. We are at war against ideas and ideology, and the ideas of the left are the danger here. We have to take back this country from these people.
99.99 percent of Americans who have heard the words "Che Guevara" or just "Che" associate it only with a cool looking poster or T-shirt, nothing more. The other .01% just got finished reading this article.
JZ is just another example of the irony of some blacks in the US idolizing those whom detest or really exploited them or their ancestors. Another is by the adoption of the Muslim religion while rejecting Christianity as the religion of the oppressor. What is worse the religion of those sold to, or of those whom sold or extinguised your ancestors?
Having an Obama "tramp stamp tattoo" on your forehead is not as bad as having the mentality and world view of a Che-Z…. I used to like Beyonce but birds of a feather and all that…
Unfortunately there are many like this guy .But inviting him to the WhiteHouse for yuks and blather is "beyond-ce" the pale even for the likes of a corrupt Obamba….
With all respect there is a problem I admit, but I'm betting there were a lot more than just me and 10 other people who knew anpot 'Che' before this article…
Some analysts of the Cuban Missile Crisis think that Kruschev yanked the missiles from Cuba not because he was afraid of JFK, but because he feared that Che would try to use them. Nikita didn't care much what happened to Cuba, but he knew that the USSR would be obliterated if missiles ever launched from Cuba.
Che is one of those characters whose pop culture image has nothing to do with the real person. Clueless college boys think they'll have a better chance of getting laid if they wear a Che t-shirt. Their understanding of Ernie pretty much stops there.
“I’m like Che Guevara with a bling on!” Jay Z
Good luck with that Jay Z, if you had lived in Cuba when Che was on his killing spree, you would have been a dead man because of your high level of melanin…just say!
If we can survive the next few months…we will take back our country, starting with the kids.
If Jay-Z thinks he's Che with bling, then he shouldn't be surprised when somebody decides to pop a couple of caps in his Marxist ass.
If? That's the question.
If JayZ knew the true racist nature of this monster, he would feel foolish indeed…
i wonder if Jay Z (whoever that is) can even SPELL Che Guevara
I wonder…the prog mind is often a twisted mess. They seem to be able to justify many attrocities that occur under a prog label…
Damn you and potential reality….I admit I agree with you!
Okay, maybe I overstated things, but still, .01% of 300 million is 30,000!
Amen!
These racists and radicals will hang their hat on any cause no matter how obscure if it involves destroying America!
In what alternate reality have we landed where the PRESIDENT himself actually agrees with Che Guevara?!!
WAKE THE FVCK UP PEOPLE!
Che-Z is a towering intellect like Obamba…
It is mildly humorous,and entertaining to those of us who know history to observe the way the MSM and the Hollywood liberal left has perpetuated the Che Guevara myth. Those silly sumbitches in colleges with their idiotic Che shirts and berets don't have a clue. Mindless minions with their little pea brains full of mental mush, living on Mommy and Daddy's trust funds. We wonder why we are at the brink of the abyss. trace the root cause of the problem. Progressive academics who are tenured. Che, Fidel, and Pol-Pot knew what to do with thier "Progressive Problem". They were the first to get the axe.
Che complained about the bathing habits of black people. Well…..from what I've read, old Che was a stranger to soap and water himself.
I've never wanted to be more wrong about anything in my life.
Beyoncé is an attractive gal, but could someone tell me what the heck she sees in JayZ, that dude is as hard to look at as a mud fence…
Doesn't matter, he's just another useful idiot in the mold of the Congressional Black Caucus.
I hear you!
She would just be another pretty face that can sing and dance if she didn't attach herself to Jay-Z's nuts.
I think Jay Z made Che's point.
Interesting tidbit, from a blog:
"That’s according to Humberto Fontova, the author of “Exposing the Real Che Guevara and the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him,” who claims that Guevara probably would have imprisoned or punished most of his celebrity fans, from Johnny Depp to Angelina Jolie.
Among the book’s claims:
- Twice, Che plotted terrorist attacks against New York City. In November 1962, the FBI cracked a terrorist plot by Cuban agents who targeted Macy’s, Gimbel’s, Bloomingdale’s and Grand Central Terminal. They planned to blow up those landmarks with 12 incendiary devices and 500 kilos of TNT the day after Thanksgiving. Several months before visiting New York in December 1964 and being feted by the toast of the city’s intelligentsia, Che hatched a plan with the Black Liberation Army to blow up the Statue of Liberty, the Liberty Bell and the Washington Monument. The plotters were infiltrated in 1965 by a sharp-eyed NYPD cadet.
excerpt contd:
"- Che detested rock and roll and railed against “long hairs,” “lazy youths,” and homosexuals. At one point, he wrote that the young must always “listen carefully – and with the utmost respect – to the advice of their elders who held governmental authority.”
- Che sidelined black Cubans and mocked those who were part of the revolutionary movement. He once told radio host Luis Pons, “We’re going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing.”
Viva Che!
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It is so sad that We the People have watched the constant littany of propaganda, lies and misrepresentations at by the left at every level of our society. In school across the nation, global warming is being taught. Our universities are being flushed into the liberal intellectual toilet. We the People are now supporting a government that is spending us into destruction. Our president is a dedicated leftist ideologue and he will attempt to seduce all of us with his sometimes skillful oratory into believing that We the People are not worth listening to. He is asking all of the elected representatives of the United States to go against the will and the concent of the governed. Does anyone really believe that this is representative democracy anymore? This is his jihad. The people are damned!
correcting post: should read "lies and misrepresentations at every level…"
I am not quite sure how to respond to that Indy….
It's not intended to be racist but as you pointed out:
“I’m like Che Guevara with a bling on!” Jay Z
"…spends his money on frivolities…"- Che
What's bling but frivolities.
I knew there was more than one way to look at that statement…I never want to assume.
No wonder they get no respect; respect is earned. As Charles K. says, one must first be illusioned before they can be disillusioned. Therefore, there is no hope for them.
Probably should have put the quotes in first but I didn't… & and life goes on.
What if they all know these things about Che and don't care ?
Someone mentioned "illusions"……many on the "right" hold onto the idea that
what's wrong with Leftists is that they just don't know the truth. If the Conservatives just
use reason and fact, the Leftists will certainly see ! After all they aren't evil.
What if they do know where it'll all lead ?
Well, he was right about Blacks. Maybe I will get a Che shirt after all.
I'm amazed by two things:
1.) That anyone believes that Liberals have a goal of "destroying America".
2.) That Conservatives buy the Fox News fear-mongering "Communist/Socialist" tactic, hook, line and sinker.
Shame on you…
I'm amazed by two things:
1.) That anyone thinks that Liberals are out to "destroy America".
2.) That Conservatives buy the "Communism/Socialism" fear-mongering bit. Hook, line and sinker.
shame on you…
The Fondas and Depps of the Hollywood apparatchik will continue to stump for the progressive caucuses, right up till someone they know puts a bullet in their head. As the saying goes: "You can't fix stupid."
I never thought the t-shirts were that cool.
haha, I agree. That is probably the only true statement that commie ever made.
Most blacks do waste their money on crap and booze.
“Che’s life is an inspiration for every human being who loves freedom … we will always honor his memory.” — Nelson Mandela
I'm truly not sure they have the capability to see any viewpoint but there own. They refuse to accept that humans are flawed. In their view of the perfect and "just" society, everybody will behave themselves and nobody will want for power or money or blood, and so there will be no evil to spoil things. Communism will be all rainbows and sunshine and no one will want for anything.
In most cases, if you want to know how heroic someone is, first gage how much the right-wing hates them. The greater the teabaggers hate him, the more heroic he/she must be. Che Guevara, (one of the most heroic individuals of the 20th century) invites a large amount of hatred, vitriol, and misinformation from the conservative wing-nuts for two reasons:
(1) He represents many of the noble attributes that their bankrupt philosophy abhors, namely self-sacrifice, helping the poor, restoring justice when it comes to great inequality, and overthrowing the oligarch puppets of plantation capitalism.
(2) Che represents everything that the right-wingers secretly wish they were – brave, determined, dashing, charismatic, intelligent, poetic, and unshakable against impenetrable odds – while they took deferments from Vietnam – Che battled armies on 2 continents usually outnumbered 20 or 50 to 1.
Fontova is a propagandist clown with no credibility.
“I have yet to find a single credible source pointing to a case where Che executed an innocent.”
— Jon Lee Anderson, Author of “Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life”, PBS Forum
I remember watching a documentary on the Cuban Missile crisis (on the History Channel, if I'm not mistaken), that revealed that while the ballistic missiles were not yet operational, the Soviets did have tactical battlefield nukes avaiable that could have obliterated the U.S. Marines ready to land on Cuba's beaches! Good thing Khrushchev came to his senses….Then again, I'm sure he was shook up when that Russian SAM took down that U.S. plane, against his orders. Another one of those incidents…goodbye world!
Che made the “black is indolent” remark in his diary as a youth, but months later changed and went on to speak out against segregation in the south US, speak out against Apartheid to the UN in 1964, bash the KKK in 1961, take a black bodyguard and best friend with him everywhere “Pombo”, integreate Cuban schools before they were in the US, and fight white mercenaries in the Congo with an all black army!
“Those who kill their own children and discriminate daily against them because of the color of their skin; those who let the murderers of blacks remain free, protecting them, and furthermore punishing the black population because they demand their legitimate rights as free men — how can those who do this consider themselves guardians of freedom?” —- CHE GUEVARA, 1964 at the U.N.
—-> A NEW DEFINITION FOR “CHUTZPAH”
When someone who supports the same country that nuked 2 cities and turned 250,000 people to dust … the same country that fire bombed Dresden and burned 150,000 women and child alive, the same country that killed 15 million Natives because they felt it was their ‘manifest destiny’ … the same country that enslaved millions of blacks … the same country whose CIA has killed 6 million people since 1950 (John Stockwell) … the same country that invaded Iraq which has caused 950,000 + deaths … Not to mention propped up the many brutal tyrants like Pinochet, Suharto, Marcos and Somoza … backed contra death squad movements through the School of the Americas …
Pretends to be outraged by Che Guevara and the 200 or so War Criminals he had shot after revolutionary tribunals.
PRICELESS
Ronald Reagan’s right-wing Contra Death squads slaughtered 70,000 in El Salvador, 100,000 in Guatemala, and 30,000 in Nicaragua. Yet teabagging morons worship the diaper wearing war criminal.
… If only Che had lived long enough to battle Reagan’s goons and butchers.
Come on now Whore-hay, PBS is about as relevant as NPR.
Jorge, babe—
You certainly embody what the initials SFB stand for…
Hey Whore-hey, you're muy loco, eh?
Come now Whore-hay, Che was a racist, sociopath, whose only great love was Fidel. He was a dirty, stinking butcher.
I regularly wear an ANTI-Che` tee to the largest Latino attended university in the United States of America.
I, as a fellow student regularly question Che`shirters about what they actually know about that scum they have on their chests.
It's generally short, and sweet and puctuated by uhms and uhh and ers….they're just sheep, these neo-commies.
Ohhh! So he became an enlightened man and then killed many of his own countrymen because they were bourgois so that makes it okay…
<sarc>
Jorge,
Espabilate y para de comer mierda.
An example of a twisted mess below….
Jorge, you are a funny, pathetic dude! Calling Che "heroic" has to be the funniest thing I have ever heard!
Little Ernesto helped to enslave millions.
The philosophy of Guevara and his fellow travelers has brought nothing but death and suffering to humanity.
Wherever scientific communism, socialism and/or the teachings of Marx, Lenin, Mao, etc. have been implemented men women and children died by the millions and those that survived to suffer as slaves to the state.
Just look at the philosophies people are fleeing from and the philosophies they are running to
Jorge, your "logic" is about as credible as saying a third-grader's protestation's about not liking a girl is factual evidence that he does.
Murder isn't a noble attribute. Nor is racism, torture, elitism, on and on and on. Che Guevara is the pop icon face of communisim, which is responsible for more deaths than Hitler.
Frankly, you're an idiot. One of the useful idiots the book describes. I wouldn't waste my spit on you.
Che` FAILED at eveything he attempted, to the point he was"dispatched" by Castro to "overseas contingencies operations", you moron. Foisting a criminal philosophy on poor ignorant people is nothing to trumpet. I challenege you to live a "worker's life" in a "failed worker's paradise" like Cuba.
His African "adventure" was an abject FAILURE because all the attributes you seem to have such a strangely "homo-eroctic" pentchent for were ignored by his "Revolutionaries" . They prefered that drinking and whoring more than the "over throwin' and communisn' " . Look it up, fool.
His "battles" generally meant he ran and hide and was the hunted, eventually ending with a bullet.
Some hero. If he hadn't been Hispanic surnamed you wouldn't give two shits about this loser.
He was a pampered semi upper classer (like Castro, Mao, Lenin, etc., most of the "wise leaders") who completed a "medical degree" in Argentina. Now, I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing were not talking Johns Hopkins here, to what degree there was actual academic rigour compared to a U.S. Med School is debatable.
Most 20th century communists were/are "children of priviledge" imposing their ideological chains on others while they live the lives of wealth and comfort. (like Obama)
Jorge – you're just plain ignorant. Let's talk about some facts.
1. Japan attacked the US first – we didn't attack them over political/philosophical differences.
2. Dropping the 2 atomic bombs on Japan saved MILLIONS of Japanese citizens, not to mention hundreds of thousands of U.S. tropps.
3. Slavery was practiced throughout the world. The U.S. didn't do it unilaterally. In fact, Slavery is STILL practiced today. Blacks in Africa sell other Blacks into slavery.
(more in next post)
(Continued)
4. The CIA figure is pure nonsense. You pulled it out of your butt.
5. Attacks on Dresden, as well as all other German targets, was to get an intransigent German High Command to give up. Didn't work, true, but it was a strategically sound move. It also went hand in hand with the German buzz bombs and London firebombing.
6. Stopping the spread of Communism in the Western Hemisphere by propping up a bunch of third world idiots was the best option at the time. Democracy wasn't exactly something bursting forth. Communism has killed more than ANY form of government in history.
7. Iraqi president killed hundreds of thousand of Iraqis. The 950,000 number you mention came from the same place as your earlier number – from your deluded imagination.
8. Finally, American Indians. I agree that our treaties with them should have been honored, once agreed to. Yes, amazingly, our nation is not perfect. However, Indian tribes used war, raiding, killing, and conquest as a way of life.
Now, these are facts. You, as a useful idiot, offer nothing to the debate. You really should just go away. You're not convincing anyone.
Jorge, las ovejas no todos los latinos son sin sentido proxenetismo un comunista muerto. ¿Esto frustran? Difunde su propaganda en otro lugar, OK – idiota?
jorge people been bulshitten you buddy…
http://reason.tv/video/show/622.html
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?i...
You're a "hit-and-run" online jihadist following the activities and postings of Fontova aren't you?
I'm guessing you're a T.A. in a Florida Liberal Arts dept. somewhere, dreams of communism dancing in your head, sucking down and breathing in all the benefits and virtues of CAPITALISM, like the internet and computer you used to transmit your stupid and wildly "passionate" love letter about Che`, right?
Got a little "chicken hawk" shot in, some disinformation, followed the script, logged off and then went on to make your next "hit" right?
Now that there is some epic willful ignorance.
Jorge is a chickenred: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ch...
The Left hate that our country is a super power both militarily, and economically, they are trying to bring us down, therefore the love for Che who did the same for Cuba. I always wondered in the socialist societies, what is the incentive to work hard? Do the lazy all of a sudden become productive?
The Left hate that our country is a Super power both Militarily, and Economically, and are trying to bring us down; therefore their love for Che who did the same for Cuba.
So, you're saying Mandela — minus the opportunities for mass murder — is just as much of a lowlife as Guevara was? Agreed. Good job!
African Americans are victims of socialist lies. What culture they had has been striped away with social engineering and replaced with New World indoctrination. They should not be our enemies any more than the lied and manipulated masses in North Korea or the Soviet Union. The day is coming that we either help them to escape the slavery of entitlment, or their deluded masses will be formed into an army to be used against us.
Sick people throw dogs into pens to fight against each other. Banksters and the statists are doing the same with people.
It’s politically blasphemous to say anything positive, or even nuanced about Che around right-wing Americans. Worldwide, however, the loathing of Che is an extreme minority view.
Che was more complex and contradictory an historical figure than some people understand.
However simple minded Americans like their characters to be unambiguous and simple: Good OR Bad; Black OR White; Saint OR Sinner, etc. In reality, things are rarely so simple.
That’s one of the reasons that ADOLF HITLER is so often pulled out in an argument: There are relatively few people who embody absolute evil so clearly and readily.
The hysteria and the manic frustration expressed by right-wingers regarding the continuing—and growing—popularity and iconic status of Che is in itself very revealing. Complexity is not their strong suit. Seeing more than the surface is a little hard for right-wingers. Everyone must fit into the “Superman vs. Lex Luthor” box. Reality is harder to pigeonhole.
That's fantastic. Thank You!
I hadn't heard that one. I usually had to expend a few sentences worth of pointing out the hypocracy of the "i-pod communist" youth brigade, now it's just one word "Chickenred". Great.
I knew that there SHOULD be a name for not "walking the walk" but THANK YOU, that'll come in handy at The "People's Republic of the University of Texas at El Paso".
In Pre-Che Cuba, Americans owned 70 % of the arable land, 1% of the population controlled 46 % of the wealth, and 50 % of the population lived in Bohio shacks.
Batista’s goons would leave dead bodies hanging in the streets as a warning sign while the SIM (Military Intelligence Service) BRAC (Buro for the Repression of Communist Activities) and Tigres de Mansferrer (Mansferrer Tigers) made up a repressive machinery which tortured and killed thousands.
Batista’s dictatorship operated blindly against teenagers, who would be picked-up, tortured through beatings, their eyes plucked out, their finger nails removed with forceps and females would have hot metal instruments introduced into their v@gina. These fascist crimes of Batista cannot be denied by crosses along every highway in Cuba (which I’ve been to many times).
Many of these men with blood on their hands can still be found living out their last days on Calle Ocho in Little Havana (South Florida) where they support admitted terrorists like Luis Posada Carilles & Orlando Bosch who hijack airliners ala Al Qaeda. Go to Versailles restaurant where I’ve been and you’ll see them.
Che has proven to be right on so many things, far before the majority:
- Che called out South Africa’s Apartheid in 1964 !!! 30 years before the West.
- Che defended Paul Robeson from the FBI goons, and predicted the civil rights movement … while America looked the other way.
- Che spoke of the dangers of the IMF, 3 decades before most of the developing world realized they had been scammed into debt slavery.
- Che denounced the alienation that arises from unbridled capitalism and the degeneration of a society where the law of value rules all – an idea which is now fact to anyone paying attention.
Che was not only a grand hero & martyr of the people … but a prophet to the world.
Well Whore-hay; all you pepper bellied, chilie eaters with that latin bent have a bloodthirsty side to you. That isn't racial stereotyping either. You all are just some cruel, blood thirsty sumbitches. Cruel with horseflesh and livestock also.
So, what is your point?
Why are dodgiing me, you douchbagger?
I'm the grandchild of Mexican immigrants and live within sight and a quick walk of the most dangerous city on earth, Juarez Chihuahua. I've seen the poverty. I have a foot in Latin America and see PIGS like you try to live off the carcass of the memories of Che`'s bullshit because it's easier than working.
I've seen poverty around the world and I KNOW that communism is a FAILURE because you can't build walls BIG ENOUGH to contain the human spirt and it's natural expression through free trade and freewill.
That old pig Castro has a sea to help corral the unfortunate VICTIMS of COMMUNISM.
As has been said, do you live in the comfort of capitalism? Are you "chiming in" from Cuba? Dissidents are censored and killed there, by "Mama Communism".
Walk the walk COWARD, not just spread lies. Your're a cheap coward.
Hey Mac, What about the BUTCHER RONNIE ???
Ronald Reagan was a War Criminal that killed 200x more people with his right-wing Contra Death squads than Che ever did.
Che had 200 War Criminals and torturers shot after a revolution … Reagan helped slaughter 200,000 people in Latin America by contras …
C’mon, let’s be fair here
… “Ronald Reagan was a murderer and your t-shirt is not cool” on Facebook
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See this is where El Che messed up …
He should have
- Bought a peasant girl, made her his slave, then raped her and had her give birth to his child (Jefferson)
- Next Che should have made all the rich oligarchs walk hundreds of miles before leaving the country in a ‘trail of tears’ (Jackson)
- Once his legend was solidified he could send one of his commanders to do a ‘march to the sea’ where he burned out all the govt homes and Batistaites who had been defeated (Lincoln/Sherman).
It’s a shame Che didn’t follow the great paths history already laid out for him … then instead of being on a t-shirt, Che could be on the U.$. dollar bill !
“There was no person more feared by the company than Che Guevara because he had the capacity and charisma necessary to direct the struggle against the political repression of the traditional hierarchies in power in the countries of Latin America.” — Philip Agee, CIA Agent
You're a misguided sick PIMP. Castro and his oligarchy, the same 'garchs' who encourage Americans with relatives in Cuba to send over dollars so the Cuban "government" can steal the dollars, convert it to Cuban pesos and steal the difference?
The same oligarchs who eliminated U.S. dollars from the economy of Cuba, stole them and gave the Cuban people back cheap, undervalued Cuban "replacement" money? Those heros or the "Revelucion`"?
“At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality. We must strive every day so that this love of living humanity will be transformed into actual deeds, into acts that serve as examples, as a moving force.” — CHE GUEVARA
"The application of the death penalty in Cuba against war criminals and others followed the same procedure as that seen in the trials by the Allies in the Nuremberg trials. Had the Revolutionary Government not applied severe legislation against the few hundred torturers, terrorists, and other criminals long employed by the Batista regime, the people themselves would have taken justice into their own hands. It was only the population’s confidence in the government’s effective and cautiously selective administration of revolutionary justice that kept the society in order. The death penalty was imposed on the enemies of the people–those who had killed, tortured, and committed crimes against humanity during the revolutionary war and continued to conspire against the revolution."
REF: Thirty Years of Cuban Revolutionary Penal Law, by Raul Gomez Treto, Latin American Perspectives, Vol. 18, No. 2, Cuban Views on the Revolution (Spring, 1991), pp. 114-125
Che` messed up by being a dumbass, who was run out of power in Cuba by Castro. He had to take his "show" on the road.
The whole bunch of those mental midgets couldn't organize a two car funeral.
There aren't enough of you pimps to outlast a ladies weekend skeet shooting club. The is no revolution here because we Americanos would k – i – l – l – y o u, facile, right?
Cuba is THE poorest country in the Western Hemishere and only a few African disasters and North Korea keep it from being THE poorest country on earth.
Communists like YOU who live in luxuary and warmly wrapped in the life of comfort CAPITALISM gives them are cheap pimps and cowards. You pimp communism yet don't "live it" and pimp communism but don't "work it".
Actually Che` is DEAD.
Che` was largely forgotten and buried in a vauge and forgotten grave until the 90's when Casto noticed that he could EXPLOIT the dead Che` as a "hero" – nevernmind he was exiled as a failure.
You keep posting and I'll keep correcting you.
I'm outta class for the day so I have all night to correct you're garbage.
Could care less.
Tancredo?
South Africa's apartheid has been replaced by a near failed state status (the World Cup there will be a disaster) and rampant black on black and black on white violence. The hate and violence in South Africa NOW dwarfs the hate and violence THEN. Black criminal oligarchs run S,A.
Robeson – like Che` was a "comfotable" Marxist – a Marxist of priviledge and wealth. F—k him.
Expanding access to wealth and opprotunity helps everybody, you beef should be with the oligarchs who short stop and skim the wealth, like Castro does.
If you think capitalism doesn't work, which of course is a stupid idea, look at the POORIST countries on earth. All COMMUNIST or totalitarian regimes with Marxist tendencies.
Che` was a FOOL and a FRAUD, and I'm glad he's DEAD!
So, Che` took a personal SLAVE and pimped that as a way to mitigate his racism, which is WELL documented? I
s that the spin, George?
God bless the Cuban Nationals who have did all in their power to defeat the Communist PIG Castro. May they live to see Castro assasinated with a bullet to the head!
Ok, who said the left disagree ?
Did Barack stop apologizing in the name of USA for making the world a better place?
You're a JOKE. The Cubano Communists would march them to the WALL at the prison in Havana and SHOT them.
No trial – no nothing.
You compare that with the extrodinary display of jurisprudence at Nuremberg? LOL!
Jamesb,
Come on
dont hold back
say what you really mean
Your numbers are lies and communism has KILLED TENS OF MILLIONS world wide. I'm proud of any and ALL efforts to KILL communist cowards where ever they hide.
Central America is much better place for Reagan's efforts to tamp down the communista's seeking to subgugate the people of those countries. It isn't working. Ortega should be "disappeared".
The first synonym for American Foriegn Policy is FREEDOM and HOPE!
Hey jerkoff, are you getting paid or are you getting extra credit or a b l o w job from your prof/manfriend
Your numbers are pure leftist propaganda, unrefferenced and false, the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima SAVED millions of JAPANESE lives (contrary by revisionist historians infected with p.c.) by saving a costly invasion and forcing the Japanese to surrender.
You speak of the Dresden firebombing (which was a British night time raid, get oyur facts straight) and leave out the baslitic missle strikes and firebombing by the agresor on London, Coventry and , Birmingham and other British cities and despite that, it wasn't that far from where another dictatorial despot like Castro and Stalin was killing MILLIONS of Jews.
Jon Lee Anderson, Author of “Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life”, PBS Forum
-usefull idiot and leftist propadandist -(there's a photo of che` executing a prisoner. look it up.)
James…I like your style
always do! I was attacked by Communistas as a little kid. I never forget and i always get revenge. It' s the Latino in me I guess.
Pimps like this fool don't engage me face to face. i wonder why?
No prisoners, eh?
You're a moron and this ridiculous and stupid post proves it Just another useless post by a another useful idiot.
The ashes of the failure that is communism, which the real issue here, not some dead clown,are clearly evident worldwide.
There are no successful communist countries.
They haven't been any successful communist countries and there will never be any successful communist countries.
Che` is merely a cartoon figure on a cheap tee, he legacy distorted and false. He was FAILURE, and DIED a FALURE, and his attempts to spread communism were FAILURES.
Only the confused youth find any allure in his FAILED life. He was nothing and died a exile trying to regain "glory".
Sólo los tontos piensan que es digno de alabanza. pendejos.
Epic FAILURE.
"Killing people is FUN and replacing freedom and hope with the chains of communism will be done no matter how many people have to be killed to do it." —— 1957 CHE` GUEVARA – MURDERER and FAILED REVOLUTIONARY
How the Amerikkkan REICH-WING MIND WORKS
- Nuking 250,000 Japanese civilians = Good
- Che overseeing the execution of a former Dictator Batista’s torturers = Bad
- Slave Owners on US currency = Good
- T-shirt with Cuba’s National Hero Che’s face on it = Bad
“Che is fairly intellectual for a Latino.” — Declassified CIA Document
… you're a Tommy Taco
Also, both sides need to calm down,
We’re living in a time of instantly-gratifying selective history; if you’re a conservative you can log onto Amazon right now and find a book that supports your ideology. If your a liberal – likewise. There are plenty of books expounding on the heroic feats of the ‘liberator’, Che Guevara. On the flip side there are plenty that rail against all the atrocities he committed. These are then “proven” or “disproved” by a series of other books.
There’s a reason why Che (the Robin Hood myth) is still compelling. Regardless of his actual exploits, the myth depicts a character who overthrows a brutal dictatorship by rallying the common folk. He takes land from wealthy foreigners who’ve supposedly ‘exploited’ the poor and gives it away. He fights in another continent to help free South African blacks. He thumbs his nose at a superpower which has grown incredibly arrogant and belligerent in it’s meddling. There’s a lot to like in that for anyone (regardless of its actual accuracy).
Jorge,
Those 250K civilians were balanced by the single atrocity of Nanking, where Japanese soldiers practiced bayonet drills with women and children.. I have to suppose that you do know something about WWII, but maybe you don't. The nukes stopped the larger slaughter that was coming with an invasion. I know I care, because my father was on the boat to the far east after fighting his way from North Africa to Dachau. You're entitled to your opinions, but not to your facts.
The cacophous din of Batistiano right-wing idiocy that is Little Havana (Miami) are nothing buy slimy gusanos.
As a South Floridian, I can see the white, old, bitter, and fading geriatrics with their sillys signs outside of Versailles restaurant nearly weekly.
It's hard for the anti-Castro mafia to accept the fact that they tucked in their wiener and fled their mansion from a few dozen bearded guys with guns.
To me Che Guevara is one of the most heroic figures in world history who is a stoic example of what all those who speak of “revolution” should espouse to be.
This was a man who left a bourgeoisie comfortable life of the upper class, a potential well compensated career as a medical doctor, and a high regarded governmental position, each time to slog through the jungle and fight guerrilla wars against impenetrable odds = for a better and more equitable society.
Throughout his life Che tended to thousands of sick campesinos, helped construct dozens of schools throughout Cuba, worked in a Leper colony to helped those afflicted, and even when he was literally tied up in a small mud school house awaiting his own execution ! , still complained to the local teacher that in a nation where the leaders drove Mercedes … it was a travesty that the peasants were taught in a dilapidated place like he was in.
If the world had 100 Che’s … or hell even 10 … we would be in much better shape.
1 Million Cubans Demanded Justice against Batistas War Criminals !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUPqsh52QPc
& So Che and Fidel gave it to them
Slaves Owned:
George Washington = 300
Che = 0
If you are truly interested in the life of the Guerrilla icon Che Guevara … I would suggest you read the 800 + page – ‘Che Guevara: a Revolutionary Life’ by Jon Lee Anderson.
“We must bear in mind that imperialism is a world system, the last stage of capitalism – and it must be defeated in a world confrontation. We must eliminate the foundations of imperialism: our oppressed nations, from where they extract capitals, raw materials, technicians and cheap labor, and to which they export new capitals – instruments of domination – arms and all kinds of articles; thus submerging us in an absolute dependance.”
— CHE GUEVARA
never. after they're beat down – beat em down again. I'm guessing that Fontova is watched and "paid trolls" like these guys are dispatched out to rile up the neighborhood. Like I said, grad student/communists – they smell up ebery TA's office in every politcial science dept in the nation. The "therory" is always plausible, the practise is another issue.
Comminism is a failed dis credited concept – except in academia and leftist/Democrat politics.
Fools all.
Che couldn't sell tacos from a roadside stand with a Border Patrol checkpoint parked in front of it…
I always found it funny that Johnny Depp wears a Che necklace while making multi million dollar movies. I don't know why, but I always find blatant hypocrisy entertaining.
That 's good jorge…and Mussolini made the trains run on time…
"Until he was SHOT and KILLED trying to infect Sudamerica with his communista garbage" —-the Guy who pumped a few rounds into Che` as he BEGGED for his life. LOL!
"The best Commie is a DEAD Commie" —Ronald Reagan
“We must bear in mind that communism is a world system, the last stage of totalitarianism – and it must be defeated in a world confrontation. We must eliminate the foundations of communism: our oppressed schools and universities, from where they extract decency, morality, knowledge and cheap labor, and to which they export new capitals – instruments of domination – ignorance and all kinds of articles; thus submerging us in an absolute dependance.”
CAPITALISM—Sometimes not perfect and makes mistakes
COMMUNISM– Always evil, and in need of the 2nd amendment..
Don't write a call for viewing the complexities of a man's character without revealing just what about Che made him more complex than just downright disgusting. Citing a person's worldwide popularity is just stupid. Most of what people believe about Che is based on the lies and misinformation of useful idiots and propagandists.
Che could have had a million positive qualities (Hitler liked dogs, and was apparently very decent to women), but the fact is he was a butcher, a person who executed the innocent and reveled in his power over human life. That makes him evil. It is people like you and your ability to call out evil when you see it that has crippled our will in the our present day conflicts.
my wife is from Peru
we went down a year ago for a couple months
I was amazed at the amount of support for che
Peru is also a good example of the government running everything
you are either rich or poor
no middle ground
Every home,apt. building or dwelling is surrounded by stockade fence and barbwire
neighborhoods hire private armed guards
police and military on every corner
dont get me wrong, Peru is a beautiful country(except for the smog)
but i shudder to think this country could end up like that
How the cowardly Communist small mind works
-Japanese KILLING MILLIONS of Chinese and attempting a Far East Empire – U.S. STOPS that and ends the war=GOOD.
-Che` and Company summarily killing peoole they don't like and decades later having a weak kid PIMP for him=BAD.
-American Founders establishing the first and most successful free country on earth, where even a black man can be president, no matter how wrong he is on the issues – he is safe in his office GOOD or:
-Murderous communist hypocrites enslaving a country and subjugating the poel who can't manage to escape, even as many tries they are imprisoned or killed= BAD.
and people killed??
Eddie mi amor..
pinchy Che este el matador de los personnas povre… Compendre, hoto??
Odd.
I don't fall into either percentile ranking. I never thought Che was cool. I always knew him to be a murdering, butchering, sociopath, long before I read this article.
Che came to a good end. All Progressives should end up that way, on a slab.
Yet Che` lives "well" as a founding pimp that enslaved Cuba by force. After FAILING as a agriculture/economics Minister he drifts as a USELESS RELIC of a failed regime.
2010 CUBA – Decrepit old cars and a dearth of technology – except what is brought in from a successful CAPITALISTIC country – the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. Rolling electricity blackouts, like Red Venezuela.
1959 -2010 CUBA – ABJECT FAILURE
This punk is a paid troll. Truth and history in context mean nothing to him. He's pimping the message.
So you think they should espouse to be killers, torturers, and bad soldiers who live off of the work of others? hmmm…interesting theory.
So when the Soviet Union occupied Poland, the Baltic countries, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Bulgaria, Romania, the Sakhalin Islands…was that imperialism? Or liberation?…just wondering.
and may God help us
Jorge you should consider moving to that socialist utopia Cuba, hell I wouldn't miss you much…
Well of course he SAID that, it was anti American, he was taking advantage of blacks in the same way Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the whole Democratic party does. There's nothing to say he'd actually changed his mind, and if he had that doesn't change the fact that he was a murdering psycho.
Total it all up… followers of Marx have killed over 100 million people…
While we can admit that owning slaves was not right (there's evidence Che raped women btw), the way the American Indians were treated was not right…you can't admit that Che was an inept, advantage taking, torturing, foolish, psychopath with an ego driven agenda.
Jorge – your statistics are BS and Che was an effeminate punk. Do the world a favore and eat your gun.
Sooo…this is why poor Americans have air conditioning, cars, tv's, cable etc. while poor cubans (everyone but the government officials pretty much) have …dirt?
What's a "Tommy Taco" Putita Gorge?
True story, the level of poverty those people live with vs. the level of poverty even the poorest American lives with is very telling.
Historical Context (concept LOST on neo-commies)
George Washington – February 22, 1732 – December 14, 1799
Che` Communist – 1928 – 1967 LOL!!!
Fidel Communist Pig – 1926 – 2010 LOL!!! Let Parties Big Loud and Large!
thanks. I get "looks" but no comments…It could be because it's size XXXL and theres a big, semi pissed off looking dude wearing it. Or not ;p
Fortunately for the US, the pansies on the left are still afraid of guns. Don't want to break their nails.
Wrong. I would say 75% didn't know, but 25% went beyond the history book in high school and made it a point to learn REAL history. Don't let your kids be one of the 75%. Learn who they are wearing on their shirts and educate yourselves and them. It wouldn't hurt to find out what artists they are listening to and read the lyrics.
Check out the Dead Kennedy's take on a communist paradise: Holiday in Cambodia.
The brazilian north and northeast are very similar. Sad state of affairs in our own backyard.
Che`irrationally advocated wildly for WWIII – but was over ruled by "saner minds". He was largely irelevant after his misadventures in screwing up the agricultural ministry and as time went on – much like Rudolph Hess as became irrelevant to Hitler – he became irrelevant to Castro – was tolerated but ignored.
Even Castro, who is very well educated knew Che` was a crank. Starting a war that would leave Cuba a glowing parking lot would be "counter productive' to establishing a "worker's paradise".
Regimes should seek to survive – even a dolt like Che` should have grasped that concept.
Of course we have neo-commies chiming in hre that don't grasp that communism is a FAILURE, a dud – a death cult – an anachronism.
Fairy tales….and I suppose O is gonna give you a house.
There is also a cover-up of human rights autrocities going on NOW — in Russia — against Blacks.
Lynchings are happening every week — why isn't this being brought to the world news headlines?
Fontova is poking holes in the cult of personality that is Che`
and for all you admiration of a commie dead man – let's talk about Benicio del Toro and that CRAPPY movie nobody – and I mean NOBODY went ot see – because we Americans know the MYTH of Che` is nowhere as brutal and ugly as the TRUTH about Che`, Che`was a COWARD – a CHEAP thug – and a murderer.
The repudiation of this commie clown by American movie audiences should tell you –
you're peeing in the wind fool.
communism = millions and millions of DEAD PEOPLE…that's why it's a failed political philosophy and you clinging to it in a strangely homoerotic way makes as much sense as walking around speaking Latin or Aramaic.
That's as stupid as growing a beard like Marx's "'cause it's in style". duh.
Spliff you are wrong, first of all you gotta admit Bob's got a good point here…
But hay lets looks at the number…
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I'm studying Latin American comparitive political institutions this semester.
We would recognize Latin American many S. American governments from our own American experience (the presidential systems are modeled on the U.S. – you know the evil Americans) but some of these countries have big problems (obviously), while others are strong and vibrant governments.
Brazil is going to be a growing and more problematic pain in the ass as they feel their new found economic power and Chile and few others are fairly strong and very competant.
Any post by a leftist psuedo intellectual looking down his nose at me and us is my definition of "getting off on the wrong foot".
It's a tired, trite and loathsome tactic of the left, born of the miscalulation that everything a person can learn is learned in school. That said, I'm currently in school and value it greatly, but sometimes plain old common sense should win out.
Communism is clearly a failed political institution. It's drawing it's dying breaths in North Korea and Cuba; we living today will see it's eradication as a practical institution.
It will, however continue to live on in the hearts andd minds of idiots like Jorge here and colsitered academic cranks.
very telling and NO comparison
I love my country
I believe even with our problems there is no better place to live
but the, and i am going to say the majority of Americans,
have no concept of what real poverty and want are.
There is no reason even the poorest of our poor to not have the basics
in life.
I would say most of the "poor" have cell phones,t.v,access to emergency care,
food,clean water.
The cell phone and tv are not basics i know
yup. God is an American conservative – or he wants to be – it the best outcome for all of God's children.
LOL! Yes sir, he killed them and pissed on their graves and these fools still want to protray hima s a "Hero".
pinche` pendejos. I don't think ol' Jorge speaks Spanish.
Cuban style oppression.
Its not that they just dont know the truth
its the lefts thought to make everyone equal by taking from one group
and giving to another.
you will still have the "elites" on the left
Do you see the "rich" left giving up their mansions,bank accts.,cars etc
God is an American conservative
lol
had a chuckle at that
hes quickly looking it up on wiki
It's a crime. Castro is a criminal.
dirt if they are lucky
This joke of a website Big Goebelleism" attracts all the teabagging 10th grade-grad clowns, who just eat up Fontova's polemic crap.
Fontova is not taken serious in academia because his research is about the equivalent of doing a google search of "Che + satan". Fontova has the reliability of a myspace blogger – yet you redneck goobers eat up his drivel like it was a gospel about a fatherless carpenter zombie. (morons)
Its all good…and life does go on.
"Black Book" of communism caused alien abductions = 159,256,000,235,222,149 and a little kid in Kansas.
Black Book of Communism propaganda deaths = don't ask or I KILL YOU! LOL
You're a complete assclown!
I have a friend who was 10 years old when Castro came to town in Cuba. His father was a doctor. He and his family had all their possessions and land confiscated before they were forced to flee Cuba. One thing that he told me was nobody knew for sure what type of government Castro would bring. The saying at the time in Spanish was "If Castro is communist, then put me on the list", the list of those fleeing to America. In summary Georgie, I'll believe him over you because you weren't there.
Communism/socialism seems to always be imposed under the cover of darkness which is what it seems Obama is trying to do today. There have never been some many blatant socialists in the White House since Alger Hiss and crew under FDR. If communism/socialism is so wonderful why must it always be imposed on those that never voted for it.
I don't know about Che's early life, but I'm willing to bet he came from a well-off family. For some reason, the most despicable leftists come from families that did very well under capitalism. I guess they feel their less-than-perfect childhood is because Daddy was a capitalist, so devoting their life to the leftist cause is their way of "getting back at Daddy".
You are not taken seriously…
Even this old commie has SOLD OUT "his poeple"
"Nelson Mandela has been accused by his former wife of betraying South Africa's black population.
In a savage attack, Winnie Mandela said he had done nothing for the poor and should not have accepted the Nobel peace prize with the man who jailed him, FW de Klerk.
The 73-year-old said her ex-husband had become a 'corporate foundation' who was 'wheeled out' only to raise money for the ANC party he once led."
Madela — rich communist joke
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article...
nice job, better organized than my response.
I guess. I'll make a generalization while condeming a generalization. Lations like Jorge presume that the audience that he has been sent in to rile up are all middle American anglo saxons. That may be largely true but they are a few that don't fit the paradigm.
He's imagining a buch of toothless rednecks and fire-breathing meat eaters who will hate Che` without knowing much, or anything about him.
DING-DING-DING-DING —Wrong! Bunch of sharp Americans here and plenty of ammo to crush his screed. (and even some good time in Miami (love Miami) and a little Espanol thrown in too!)
nice. you da wild"man"!
it's "communal dirt" . nobody "owns" anything (except the elites who live in palaces while the people of Cuba live in crappy apartment with sporadic electricity and the provencials people live in huts and add on homes. (recovered building materials, like in colonias along the U.S./Mexico border.
Castro has been diverting $$$$$$ to Switzerland for years. He harbors other wealthy oligarchs like the former Mexican president and thief Salinas while opressing the people. After the USSR COLLAPSED (LOL!) Cuba was set adrift and was soon desperately even POORER than before. Theused to ship sugar cane products and other agricultural products (and those great cigars)to the Soviets and the money helped sustain the island.
No mas`.
Getting frustrated pinche jotito? You've been pimping the propaganda for a while and it didn't work.
You found out that not everybody here is a bubblehead and you had to work a little.
Then (shock!) you've learned that many of us are actually well educated and articulate enough to repell your racist and nonsensicle pap.
And then (double shock!) we're not all white bread and mayo anglos and some of us understand the barrio, like Segudo barrio not far from where I'm sitting, and some of us are "multicultural" a "progressive's" tool to destroy the country except OOPS, we're conservatives.
Do you have anything else worth rebutting? Or is it just insults, which I'm happy to throw back at you, and in a couple of languages. Is that all you have?
Wow, an atheist, communist, "true believer"…are you a "Goth Kid" too? LOL!
Lemme guess, no really, lemme guess…you're majoring in "Dead Languages" and purposely live in a semi-seedy part of town, despite yo Moma keeping your bedroom ready for you to come home, and you and your three friends, two of whom are virgins hang out and drink coffee and b!tch about how evil America is, right?
Never been antwhere, excpet for your "flights of fantacy" in which you walk the roads that Che` walked and the library is on your ass becaused you've checked "Che` -the Man, the Myth" 15 times in a row. right Jorge?
Haviin' a hard time finding those Soviet-Era smokes these days and you buy you crappy clothes in thrift stores to give yourself faux "street cred" as a revolutionary? What a phony punk.
Hey fool. Do you HIDE your new TV that Mom bought you in the closet and act "all intellectual" to scam the babes? (who aren't buying it and think you "smell funny")
Got the dreads working yet? Rastafari man, whoa…good smoke you…
Explaining CHE-HATRED:
There are a plethora of reactionary middle class capitalist-loving douchebags, who were born on 3rd base and think they hit a triple — who like to talk internet smack in Mom’s basement about a revolutionary who’s been dead for 40 + years. How post-modern.
These clowns wouldn’t know the poverty that Che experienced during his travels through South America if it kicked them in their capri pants. Che was radicalized by seeing US Imperialism up close in Guatemala – you know when Uncle Sam & United Fruit decided to incinerate a few thousand brown people so American’s could save 20 cents on their bananas.
Do any of the Che-haters know anything about the U.S.-backed dictatorship of Batista and the Mafia which propped him up? The oligarchs who alongside the mafia turned Cuba into a Yanqui whorehouse, while killing 20,000 Cubans? Che believed in cold justice – because he saw injustice up close.
Meanwhile, the hardest challenge for the anti-Che vapid turds in the next 6 months will probably be the life or death decision of doritos or cheetos while playing their Xbox.
During the height of the Revolutionary War, George Washington openly tried to divert soldiers from fighting the British in order to create slave-hunting gangs. The British promised freedom to any slave who joined the British Army…thousands of slaves attempted to flee their bondage and take the Brits up on their offer. Many succeeded.
Ol' George…a proud owner of HUNDREDS OF SLAVES…rightly feared that his own slaves would desert his delightful farm at Mount Vernon so he organized gangs of soldiers to hunt down fugitive slaves and return them to their masters.
He also signed the Fugitive Slave Act of 1793 that made it legal for slave owners to pursue runaway slaves into free states.
And of course there is also Oney Judge, a female slave of Washington's who escaped in 1796. Washington, that noble character, tried TWICE to have her kidnapped and re-enslaved once sending his nephew Burwell Bassett to try to kidnap her in the night and separate her from her family.
Here's the formula:
The "3 brain theory" suggests that our brains are like a 3-layer onion: (1) oldest is "reptilian" brain, governing heartbeat, breathing, and hate/fear (fight/flight response), (2) next oldest is "mammalian" brain, governing other emotions and social cohesion, and (3) most recent is cortex, responsible for higher order thinking – reasoning, etc. The idea is that any of these 3 can "decide" for a human, and the other 2 try to support.
Republicans, and Tea Partiers like you wingnuts address the reptilian brain in your "messaging". It's a good strategy because everyone has a reptilian brain, some people are dominated by it, and most people don't understand about the 3 part brain, and are unaware of how easily they can be manipulated by hate, fear, historical revisionism and misinformation.
Pres. Obama, in particular, tries to engage the cortex. He effectively addresses only us "liberals/commies" i.e. those with a functioning cortex, who mastered their reptilian brains.
That's the built-in advantage the right-wing has. Good for you clowns, but bad for humanity.
It's obvious you were dispatched out to rebut Fontova, and you failed. Like the cause of your pants "tingle" – Che`, you failed.
Communist wannabe "academics' aren't taken seriously in the REAL WORLD. The "Better Red than Dead" b.s. is laughed at outside the fantasy world of modern academia. I'm in modern academia EVERYDAY. It's "wonderland" for the "Peter Pan set like our moron president who couldn't manage a hotdog stand on a windy New York City street. He'd SCREW IT UP.
Next time, bring something better than the crap you brought this time, spanky. EPIC FAIL.
The first synonym for “Terrorism” is —> “American Foreign Policy”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbjr_cPS9_A
So what. Jefferson INCLUDED a caveat OUTLAWING slavery but had to make a pragmatiic decision when it was taken out in editing to let the argument go. Sally Hemmings, the slave woman who bore him children wqent to France with him and Washigton had a close relationship/friendship with his "man servant" that was respectful and as a part of his will he stipulated the release of his slaves. It was a tough world for black people anywhere in the colonies and wandering around the streets didn't bode well . Attucks Crispus fell at the Boston Massacre as a free man.
Comparing the 18th century is irrelevant to the horrors and oppression of communism. It's a bad debating technique and doesn't make you points. Communism is indefensible because it is counter to the natural human condition. Period.
Che was fighting against:
- American Oligarchy (United Fruit, Texaco, U.S. Sugar)
- The US based Mafia (1959 Havana)
- The Monroe Doctrine rationale for Latin American Imperialism (Bay of Pigs)
- The idea of Banana Republics (Arbenz 1953 coup)
It just kills ditto-head Conservatives that such a heroic man will not go away. That is because these troglodytes cant fathom that he lives in the hearts of the hungry and the oppressed and that ideas never die.
Hence Che Lives on ! And will for all eternity !
I told you, I have all night and I don't need Wikipedia to keep up with you. It's all here up stairs, ready to go. My only class manana is at 6:00 pm, grad seminar class, Latin American politcal stuctures.
This is like taking a slow walk in the park for me.
Tell me about Castro and his whores and his palace again and his bourgeois lifestyle again.
Oh, you haven't addressed the communist KING living like a KING while "his" people live on scrapes, right?
How is that right? Is he "BETTER" than the proletariat? Like Lenin in his dacha? Hmm?
More? Whatcha lookin up? How about you google "Castro – wealthy communist thief that steals from the women and children of Cuba and stashes the money in Switzerland and South Africa."
How many "hits" did you get. about a BILLION?
Mandela – open Marxist and fraud.
Do you plan to Wiki the 20th century?
Wiki "p.o.sh!t." You'll get hits for Castro/Che` and the rest of the Banditos the survived the boat trip from Mexico and crawled through the surf kissing the ground because the boat sucked and none of the communist brain surgeons had any clue about boats and the sea.
What a bunch of buffoons. LOL.
The U.S. should have KEPT Cuba, like Puerto Rico. The slaves of Cuba would be free today and not have to wait for the new revolution that over throws the pig Castro.
You and the rest of the assclown brigade better put on some coffee or snort some cocaine, I have ALL night.
Tell us about the wealthy Castro's, the ranching/farming family that, and how Fidel, like most of the communist elite was from wealth and oppulance.
Private schools, law school, and the despite he throws tidbits and scrapes to the poor. Tell us how a poor country became profoundly and desperately poor in communism.
How much money does Fidel & family have stashed away now? hmmm?
I read upwards of 500 million $$$$$$$. How could that be in a poor country? Thievery? Graft? Criminality?
Tired of cutting and pasting yet? Why don't you move on to the condition of the indigenous population of North Amrerica pre 1500?
Ignore that the indigenous people spent millenia KILLING EACH OTHER. That doesn't fit trhe narrative does it?
I thought we were all 10th grade dropout rednecks that could make an argument, right? Isn't that what you said?
Tell me about Castro the Criminal. I realize that your "boy crush" on Che` causes you issues, no matter, he's been dead for 40 plus years. He's a punk on a tee.
Let's talk about Castro, the living King of the Poor, ruling over a technologically stuck in 1959 Cuba. That's a good subject.
He's holding hands with that puke in Red Venezuela, they're both on borrowed time, the devil will take Castro and a CIA assassin will take care of Chavez. That high school drop out won't even see the red lazer dot on his forehead before it turns into a red blob.
Perople seek freedom, they yearn for freedom, despots like your petty monarch Castro are a throwback to the bad old days. He's a pig a marano. He's old and frail, he'll die soon then the people can rise up, kill Raul and break the Castro chains.
Only 15 or so hours till my next class, I have hours to go…
Be honest when you report in to the party leaders. Tell 'em that you got your clock cleaned by one of the redneck 10th graders who oops, knows a bit about the horrors of Castro's Cuba and dispite trying really, really hard – you're still a moron.
Other than the worlds finest cigars, which – let's face it, is a nitche product, Cuba under Castro is a wasteland. A disaster, a horror movie that doesn't end. Dissent is brutally contained and middle class is equal to abject poverty on neighboring Latin countries.
So what's the "good part" of communism? The Cuban track and field team? Telofeo Stevenson? All the baseball players who defect?
lol! lazy loser.
Eddie
With the friggin' migre there, poor Che no sell nada.. Dig, hoto?":
I was attacked by communist cowards in Asia as a kid. I got away. I never forget and I never forgive.
I would be your worst Bautistiano nightmare on the streets of Miami…you're lucky I'm heading back to Europe in May, and up North later in the summer. That knocks Miami out…or maybe not.
The U.S. could have occupied and ENDED Castro decades ago. Fortunately he's a flea on the ass of a DEAD political philosophy – communism.
The facts are these –
(A) Communisim has KILLED more people then any other misguided criminal activity in HISTORY of the world. Look that up in Howard "Commie" Zinn's piece of shit he calls "history".
(B)The United States is THE most generous and caring country of people in world history, bar none. Be it a natural disaster or a man made disaster like Nazi Germany – WE fix it.
(C) If any country messes with the U.S. we will smack it down. Castro is a clown and pimp and Che` has been for decades andis, as I said a cartoon character. A joke, a foot note.
(D) the enslavement of Cuba is a crime and one day soon – Cuba will be free.
Or – he slid through the Sudamericano version of "medical school" which more closely resembles a EMT in modern and advanced societies like say – AMERICA , and decided to be a useless drifter now romanitcized by leftist Hollywood (hey are you the ONE person that saw Benicio make a FOOL of himself in the BIGGEST FLOP MOVIE ever, a movie that the producers took a HUGE finacial bath on, a movie AMERICANS REJECTED?)
Then while drifting around being a BUM he discovers the communistas in Mexico – where communistas have been fleeing from reality for years and "gets on the boat" with Castro and the rest of the rubes. They manage to float over to Cuba and sneak in and begin the insurgency and then as a "medical officer" he can SHOOt defenseless people that DON'T want to be communist SLAVES.
From there he fails in every job he's given, Castro gives up on hima and he becomes a "Revolutionary for Hire" and fails at that.
Then found in a village hiding and he's shot cowering like a little girl begging for his life until BANG – it's all over.
What a HERO, a murderer and coward – KILLED LIKE A DOG! LOL!!!
Pobre Juanita…
Try catching up on current events before you comment. Here's a hint: Look for Dan Rather and watermelons.
Thank you for your concern, hoto
Jorge has been, as he said, "manipulated by hate, fear, historical revisionism and misinformation."
Communism kills, Che was murderer who advocated mass murder, and nothing can change that.
The truth will set you free.
Is that it punk? You're such a revolutionary you can't even keep up you comminist crap for more than a few hours?
Weak and wimpy just like Che` – all show – no heuvos.
I'd love to "bump" into you in Miami, I LOVE Miami – it's full of good Cubanos – Commie Hating Cubanos…ya, that would nice…it's been a few years since I drove the Keys – or more acurately, since I drank voldka and the GF drove the Keys…what commie heel hole you hang out at? hmmm?
it points out what has been said
most people dont know the FACTS of che
if they really knew i cat believe they would promote him
Looks like a communist N.I.G. in the White House.
We are white, black, latin, all ethnicities. We are from North, South, East and West. We are weathy, middle calls and of modest means, we live in cities and towns and near the sea and near the mountains and on the plains.
We welcome all and include all who want to help themselves to help themselves. We see freedom as a priviledge and not flippant "right".
We believe respect is earned and is not a product of ones skin color or a result of a fancy college diploma. We are kind to animals and people who need our help and have disdane for those who would hurt or belittle a weaker person or hurt an animal.,
Although we have detractors we don't shrink from our responsibilities and won't let our country slip into a unremarkable average country.
If we are attacked, we pause, think and retaliate in a measured competant way. We could RULE the world if we wanted to, but we don't want to. When the world is hurting, they look to us. No matter what the "world" says about us, we know they want to BE us and help them anyway. When disaster happens we give the most and stay the longest. When despots rise up, we knock them down.
Black book of Communism deaths = 100,000,000
Black book of Capitalism deaths = 147,000,000
… Communism, 47 % less deadly than capitalism,
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Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery
Tea Party
Coffee Party
Black Book of Communism
Black Book of Capitalism
'(The Black Book of Capitalism) is a French book published in 1998, in reaction to The Black Book of Communism (1997). Unlike the latter however, Le Livre Noir du Capitalisme does not attempt to provide a comprehensive tally of victims of the politico-economic system in question. Rather, the book is composed of a series of independent essays'
This is weak, flawed, and wrong.
Face it communism is a failed system.
Einstien said it best Insanity is doing the same wrong thing over and over expecting a different result.
LOL
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.
Juanita mi bee-otch,
Tu no coneces nada, pendejita. La Che eres una mentirosa, como tu.
Amor y pas…
When you start drawing moral equivalencies between historic figures whom normal people hold in high regard and those who are clearly mentally deranged murderers, and you believe your own bile, it's time to start taking a hard look at yourself. Why is it that, for you, normal and abnormal have reversed themselves? Why is it that your morality has become the antithesis of everything that world civilization has accepted as good and healthy for centuries?
It's time to ask yourself, "why am I such an immoral freak?" A little self-reflection along these lines might help lead you down the road to mental health and happiness in your life.
I'm just saying.
I'm proud to have known a SF guy who was instrumental in chasing his skanky ass out of the Congo. Just 'cause I know that Che was a murdering POS, doesn't mean I endorsed Batista's tactics.
Something like 80% of people below the poverty level in the US have car/s, air conditioning, tv's with cable, cell phones, plenty of food and healthcare. Almost all have central heating. None of them have dirt floors in their homes, and I'd estimate 80% of Peruvians do have dirt floors. I know from my experience with the American system that there is no excuse for ANY child to go hungry in this country if their parents get the help available to them. Some parents just don't care enough, it's the saddest thing I've ever seen.
Oh the name calling has begun, because he has no facts to dispute our assertion that Cuba is a failed country and Che was a failed human being. All he has left is insults.
What a pile of crap. It's funny you've transitioned you pap to include the current moron-in-chief who is specifically being rebuffed by Americans – ALL Americans – in implementing his Cloward Piven strategy engame.
Obama is failing on several fronts in spectacular fashion which would be funny – if it wern't so tragic.
Your lame attempt to mischaracterize the people here and conservatives in general is shallow, poorly considered and generally smug and typical.
Frankly it's substandard work Georgie – a "D" at best.
"D"…you must be in a good mood this morning.
I dont know about % but i do know from experience living below
the poverty level.
I am ton talking living in a highrise
i am talking a two room shack,dirt floor,no indoor plumbing in the middle of the desert
living on beans and potatos
the "poor" of this country do not know the meaning
and yes i am a natural born citizen whose family has been in this country since the
1600s
"Getting back at Daddy" — a major cause of Bush Derangement Syndrome as well. Many "exceptional" people on the left should stop and see a shrink before they take it to the streets.
Where'd you go loser? Don't you want to Wiki some more "facts"? Deflect from the truth with lies and distortions?
Come on, make somemore ridiculous psuedo-scientific argument linking brain levels and critical thinking to differences in opinion and empirical reality which in reality disproves your garbage, come on assclown, bring it.
I just always thought that guy looked exactly like my cousin when he had longer hair and facial hair. And my cousin really does look like Che. Scary hunh?
I was never taught anything about him good or bad in school and I lived in the good old dc suburbs and graduated in 2001. I wasn't one to wear a shirt with some guy on it I knew nothing about though, and I bet if I would have gotten the shirt my dad would have never let me out of the house in it anyway.
He spelled his name correctly.
I totally agree with you hippie. I was in Peru a few years ago, and not just in the tourist areas but out in the countryside and the jungle. I met a woman in Lima who lived in a cardboard box structure on the top of a cement building, and this was typical not unusual. The typical way of plowing the fields to grow the food to live on was with a donkey pulled plow like we'd see in a museum. Their floors were dirt. They washed their clothes, and mine, on the rocks in a canal or river
.
I think many people here in the US have no idea what real poverty is like, and it actually makes me angry that they don't appreciate what our form of government has given us. I am lucky enough to be able to travel some times and to give some aid to the poor in other countries, the situation in Peru is very typical, so many in the US just don't seem to get it. People in other countries want to live here, even as the poorest among us they would be better off than the middle class in their country.
Weak Georgie, weak. Pimping for that shriveled up old commie in Cuba not rewarding enough? Getting lazy?
Creating a "workers paradise" takes work. Can't get sleepy and shoot your Wikiwad to early.
Tell me some more about Colonial America that has ZERO to do with the mess that is Cuba.
Just a lazy, phony punk. ChickenRed, all talk, no real commie walk, huh?
Che was judge, jury and executioner.
If you think that's "due process," you're delusional, pal.
Back to the bottom, its time for your feeding!
Under the bar that Che is judged by … George Washington was a terrorist by his own admission. George ordered General John Sullivan to burn Iroquois villages and destroy their crops, and to 'discourage and terrify' the inhabitants.
How is this different again than Che advocating executing the secret police officers of a toppled dictatorship, or even executing those rebelling against the new socialist govt?
Jamesb, the site is now censoring and erasing my replys. I guess they're afraid of teabaggers being exposed to the truth.
Oh, the humanity! You should go to a country like Cuba where they wouldn't censor your replies.
They'd just shoot you…
i doubt that
I am married to a Cuban who remembers well the "beneficence" of Fidel's and Che's Cuba. His father and older brothers were arrested and tortured (physcially and mentally); his large family was allowed one chicken a month and had to survive primarily on rice and chick peas (often just rice); toilet paper was an unknown commodity; water was turned on for only a few hours a day; in school he was subjected to constant pro-communist propaganda; independent thought and expression in school was punished, etc. etc. etc. Oh, and by the way, every neighborhood had one or two people who were designated members of the "committee". Their job was to report to communist officials anything which they interpreted (behaviour, conversations etc.) as being antithetical to "the revolution".
If anyone in this country idealizes the lifestyle provided by Cuba's communists, he or she is welcome to travel the 90 miles off the coast of Florida to join the communist collective of Cuba. However, for some strange reason, very few pro-communists ever seem to do so….hmmmm.
Oh right, says the left-winger who I bet never misses a Palin joke.
Please, take it somewhere where people buy it.
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Tom's daughter,
Interesting that when you bring actual facts from a witness to the discussion, the discussion ends….
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