A debate about the President’s Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) on Fox and Friends this week turned into a smackdown when Big Journalism contributor Richard Grenell, formerly the spokesman for the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, and Joseph Cirincione, the President of the Ploughshares Fund, staked out their positions on the right and the left.
We’ve seen examples of name-calling on too many fronts in recent days, but the war of rhetoric went nuclear after Cirincione resorted to cursing at Grenell.
The interview quickly veered off course when Cirincione threw out arguments like, “Who the hell do you think you are?” in response to Grenell’s accusations that it’s a “left wing fantasy” to think that the Obama administration’s strategy will successfully deter nuclear threats from non-state actors. By the end of the interview, Cirincione concluded the discussion by calling it simply, “insulting.”
Maybe it’s acceptable to have verbal arguments that play out like schoolyard fights if the debates are over something – anything — less consequential than our country’s nuclear strategy. The NPR, the Defense Department’s roadmap to reduce nuclear risks, is too important to let valid arguments get lost in the scuffle. Grenell’s point – that the Obama administration has not taken the necessary steps with our international allies to crack down on states that illegally pursue nuclear weapons before restricting our own nuclear arsenal — is a matter worth debating on substance. Unfortunately, that didn’t happen.
The President’s new directive rests on the underlying assumption that other countries will follow the lead of the United States in disarmament. The goal of a nuclear-free world is noble, but ultimately every state will act in its own self-interest and it’s possible that this repositioning of U.S. policy will be exploited. We should openly debate the NPR, and the ideology behind it.

Instead, Cirincione threw out this argument: “Baloney!” There aren’t too many pundits who bring up cold cuts in a disagreement, but today’s debate fits with the growing political trend on both sides of the aisle: turning policy disputes into verbal attacks. And the rhetoric seems to be getting worse before it gets better. Take this tweet from a staunch “healt-care reform” supporter, the author Ayelet Waldman, about a conversation with her son on the day that the health-care bill passed the House last month:
Abe: “Mommy, are Republicans evil?”
Me: “Yes, honey. Many are evil, the others are either stupid or selfish or both. And some are all three.”
What worries me the most about Waldman’s remark is it makes me wonder if we’re raising a generation of kids to think hateful speech is an acceptable way to curtail discussion.
So why do we resort to throwing stones? Is it easier to dismiss an argument with an attack like, “Who the hell do you think you are?” Maybe. I’ll leave it to the sociologists to debate the effects of reality show programming like Jersey Shore on our political discourse.

Regardless of why it’s happening, verbal fisticuffs just won’t cut it when nuclear policy is at stake. We simply cannot walk away from a discussion because we don’t like our opponents’ position or choice of words. We all seem to live in glass houses these days, which makes it even more important for conservatives to rise above the name-calling.






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This is the problem with political dialog today on both the left and right. They are both going right to attack mode bypassing any discussion of the issues.
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Who the hell do you think you are right commentary like this?
Writing not right – jeeze I cant even right anymore.
Damn – I did it again, write not right.
Right you are!!
Was Joe Cirincione a Mobster or thug union boss before he got that gig? He sure talks like he was!
Russia has threatened to "bury" America. Ahmadinejad of Iran threatens to wipe out Israel and nuke American troops in Iraq. The little wart in North Korea, Kim Jong Il, threatens to nuke everybody almost daily.
Obama's response? Reduce American readyness while Liberals and a puppet media nod in agreement.
Yet when some nut-job has a few cross words for Nancy Pelosi, the Liberals fly into a rage led by an angry media who headline the scandal for weeks.
Doesn't this seem strange?
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This type of reporting should surprise no one. Fox is out for sensationalism to sell their product. Fox wants their liberals to act this way in order to agitate their conservation rabble in the same manner that MSNBC does. Beck is the worst of the worst on Fox and his demographics demonstrate it as such.
Beck is Elmer Gantry and the faithful are eating it up. It is not the news media that is creating this mess, it is we who consume it and in fact revel in it.
No one said anything about not striking back.
I guess Faux News likes big government programs. Typical.
We need to focus on the nuclear armed terrorists of Israel – a nation founded with terrorism and has committed terrorist acts against the US (Lavon Affair.)
So, in your fevered little mind, Rupert Murdoch pulled the strings to make Joe Cirincione act like a child on national television, in front of millions of viewers, to get conservatives "agitated"?
gilmore, every single one of your herd that comes here knocking Fox is absolutely unhinged. Reason abhors you absolutely. Thank you for coming to Breitbart and providing web traffic so that advertisers will help support the site. Don't eat paint chips. Flush after you use the toilet.
Beck rarely has guests on his show, and then usually just one at a time, or a panel on some topic or another. His show is not one of the "talking heads arguing with each other" type of shows. Fox put those folks on during the day mostly, and it's unwatchable.
Yes, yes. Israel. You won't worry about Iran or NK or or Islamic terrorists who murder civilians EVERY SINGLE DAY. I hope you get unlucky.
ITS THE JEEEWWWWSSSS!!!!!!!
always good to see whatreallyhappened here-
you never seem to fail to find a reason to blame the Joos.
…As the TEA PARTY movement gains STRENGTH and NUMBERS, expect much more of this Verbal Violence from the increasing Frustrated, Infuriated and inherently Vicious Lying Socialist Left…
…it's just How They Roll…Always – just look at History…
Mmm…Israel produces three wonders of the world: Hot Israeli girls, the latest generation of computer processors and Golan heights wine.
They also track down and execute Nazis, Hamas, Hezbollah and Middle Eastern nuclear arms merchants.
But their greatest accomplishment has to be in driving all the pathetic Hitler apologist, neo-Nazi losers in this country completely insane. God bless you Israel.
The trolls have been released…. from their basements so they dribble on with their tripe. Yawn!
You need to focus on professional mental counseling – you are suffering from JES – Jewish Envy Syndrome…
…it most often strikes those with small penises and smaller brains…
"Iit makes me wonder if we’re raising a generation of kids to think hateful speech is an acceptable way to curtail discussion."
I don't think it has gone that far yet, but kids are being taught that certain classes of people are demonized, and you never cavort with evil demons. It is an easy way to keep kids away from learning the truth or even being tolerant of other views; you want the favor of your parents, then do not associate with these people.
Yet these are the same parents, teachers and leaders who say homeschoolers isolate their kids and don't have them grounded in reality. Oy!
Regretably, using verbal abuse to stunt debate has become one of the left's most effective tactics at silencing effective opposition, in large part because it changes the subject from the actual topic of the debate. One need never defend against an argument which is never made.
our president is a weak chested wuss. he has no stomach for unscripted confrontation. iran spits in our face and he laughs it off; who in the world has any respect for our president? another meaningless piece of paper signed by obama, all the while the russians and iranians are busily building away. barack obama, the first president to bow down, apologize and attempt to surrender. if they should ever meet again, i give netanyahu permission to smack lil barry across the mouth.
Jana,
Seriously ma'am, the left CAN'T support their positions with substantive arguments, because there ARE NONE!
NO such arguments exist!
They really believe Oba-mao will shoot magical peace rays at Achmed-in-a-dinner-jacket, and Kim Jung Ill that will turn them into "My little Pony Unicorns" and they will all peace out and chill over a doobie…
They can't possibly support crazy stuff like "we won't use our Nukes to defend ourselves" because it is fricking CRAZY.
There is no justification or logic to support the crazy moonbeam crap this administration is pulling.
It is no different than Thanksgiving dinner conversation with the family lefty loser spouting Bush Derangement crap and when you point out the flaws in their logic, or the facts that contradict their whole point they fly into a rage of cussing and spitting…
I has almost reached the point where it is completely impossible to have any kind of intelligent conversation with these "detached from reality" lefties…
What can poor leties do when confronted by someone who knows the facts and stays calm? Kick, bite and spit is all they have.
You make a great point.
Underlying the poor quality of debate tactics, such as the use of profanity, straw man arguments, and ad hominem attacks, is the inability to apply reason to an argument. A culture that fails to use reason to support its arguments and relies on generalities to attack opponents or opposite points of view, will raise children who will tend to be bigoted in their approach to any group of people or position that does not agree with their beliefs entirely.
During the cultural revolution in China Madam Mao was able to brainwash the children of China, in just a few years, to a state that school children were decapitating live adults who were part of Madam Mao’s “evil” opposition. Yes, just like the Muslim terrorist videos! The left is America has been doing the exact same brainwashing of Americas children, albeit at a slower pace, for many decades. They have used EVERY facet of media to implement the brainwashing. For instance, I was just reading some dating tips websites, and several instances of Republicans being specifically listed as people to avoid dating!!! Most conservatives have NO CLUE how deep the children have been brainwashed that conservatives are “evil”, and that todays youth are ready, willing,and able to perpetrate all manner of violence against “Rebublicans” The sheeple of America have been taught by the media to believe that you are in-human, literally evil and equivalent to Nazi’s. As such, nothing they do to you is immoral. And the Republicans have been doing what while this brainwashing was going on ? Worried about inheritance taxes, thats what !!!
He used to be the most annoying, milquetoast little dweeb in the world. Kind of made your skin crawl. I guess having dems in power has embiggened him. Of course, now i feel better about trashing him.
Well yes, you're mostly right, but what really scares me, is the number of conservatives on this site, who will bemoan this tactic and in the same breath charecterize it as endemic of the "lying socialist left". Automatically spreading the belief that certain people are demonized and preventing useful conversation, even as they complain about the lack of useful conversation. While I do go here to learn about the things my own political "group" won't make public, it often makes me sad to see that more people don't understand that NO party left or right should get a free pass when it comes to the need to have a reasoned debate.
That is so clever of you to write Faux News instead of Fox New. You're a moron!
This is funny. How anyone thinks we can bargain with non-democratic states from anything other than a position of power is beyond me. The notion that if we're just nice to them they'll be nice to us is what gets nerds beat up by bullies in school and nations beat up in the real world.
Hey people, who the hell do you think you are? It's a great point for both sides of the isle to remember, stay above the rhetoric and the mud throwing, talk about the meat.
With that said, who the hell does Cirincione think he is? He went from zero to rage in about 1 second! Was he removing his mic before the cameras were off?
When an objection is raised by the Right, the Left ridicules and minimizes and when that fails they like the spoilt children revert to taunts of "we won you lost, get over it!" They mimick Obama who again just this las week said to the Health Care dissatisfaction of the Nation said "BRING IT ON!"
So, we will bring it on. We will educate not indoctrinate, rationalize and not marginalize, logically not irresponsible, fiscally sound and not fool hardy, BRING IT ON!!!!
It is shocking how these Leftists are acting. The liberal demorats need to get their emotions in check.
I think that we will be hit with some type of attack with in the next three year's, But asshole Obama will do nothing, at all to retaliate against our enemy, he has made this country an easy target for all our enemies. Once they see this counties weakness they will lanch a full out attack on the U.S. Obama you are a Traitor and Coward To your Office, By the time 2016 is here, this country will be in ashes. November will Mid term elections will NOT make any difference to Obama, I still say that the Democrats are going to WIN more seats than ever this November
The reason the debate is going nuclear is the right is finally being heard and the left is getting angry about it. The left exposed their hypocrisy to everyone by campaigning for health care reform and imposing a redistribution of wealth act. The right got off their couches and hit the street and the internet. The only place for the left to hide is behind bigger lies. The only way to get bigger than the health care reform scam is to go nuclear. Historians may recall Chamberlain left England open to undefended air attacks by going over and signing a peace agreement with Hitler. He basically said, "We will let you bomb all of Europe without interfering if you will just agree not to bomb us." He went back home and the people hailed him as a hero. Until the bombs began to fall on London.
Wow I guess the power went to his head!
David, I have not spoken to an aunt and uncle of mine for over a year now – we cannot even have a conversation now, because no-one will listen to each other – I think I am right and they think they are right and there is no middle ground. Why? From my perspective, the middle was always moving left, we just were not watching the line and I woke up. Hard to think things can be much more polarized, the tug of war went too far left for me to give any more middle, ever.
Aaron – I’m glad to hear that you look to other alternative sources to get information.
I am confused though as to why the dichotomy found in what some “conservatives” might post is scary to you. You also note that it saddens you to see certain rhetorical practices, alluding that it bothers you when both sides of the issue do it. But, is it really scary or saddening? You see, those are emotional words (sad, scared) that are being used more and more in an attempt to stifle debate as well.
I’ll grant you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you rather meant that such debate tactics are not illustrative, unconstructive, maybe even disappointing.
Hey Guys, see this from the headlines at BG.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercoole...
Well, they can drive around at a Tea Party Express rally blaring their horn, trying to drown out the speakers. This happened today, in Escanaba, MI. It didn't work, and nobody paid the moron much attention. My husband happened to be nearby as the guy drove past, and he said the coward yelled "Stupak is number one" out the car window as he sped off. Guess he was afraid all us grannies at the rally would beat him up.
Yeah, right. . .as if we need this clown to get us agitated. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are agitating us enough.
Apparent this CFB President never got his clock cleaned while going through the school system or met with a bully. Had he, he would have known not to remove any of your available assets from the table.
We survived the Cold War against the old Soviet Union through MAD, the theory of Mutually Assured Destruction. That if you attack the US, our last act will be to ensure that your country is just one big smoking hole in the ground.
At least they are terrorizing the enemy, and I'm all for that. Push Palestine into the desert!
It strikes me as odd that the author is calling for an end to name-calling and yet the comments are overflowing with them. I wonder if such slights as "lefty loser" are not so deeply ingrained in us that we do not understand the ramifications they have or the biases that are our own. I remember being taught the '7 second rule' by my mother, that I think about what I am going to say before I speak lest I say something something foolish. Perhaps we all need to take a few more than 7 seconds to understand our opinions and how we can present them in ways that are clear, and not filled with hateful speech and mud slinging. Calling someone names not only diminishes the effectiveness of our arguments, but it also causes others to stop listening to you. Even that lefty loser in your family.
It is pretty sad when we think people who use nuclear weapons are going to follow the rules. Ridiculous!
Move the US troops out of harms way in the Middle East.
Actually, we need to focus on Great Britain. Many are unaware of the terrorist acts the British war criminals committed against this great nation. Did you know that they burned our capitol city to the ground? The White House, the Treasury, the Library of Congress, all destroyed by these people we call "allies". Great Britain not only poses a threat to America, but to world peace.
Oh, and there are JEWS living there!
Actually, we need to focus on Great Britain. Many are unaware of the terrorist acts the British war criminals committed against this great nation. Did you know that they burned our capitol city to the ground? The White House, the Treasury, the Library of Congress, all destroyed by these people we call "allies". Great Britain not only poses a threat to America, but to world peace.
Oh, and there are JEWS living there!
This post is very precise. She provides a solid approach to what happened in this Fox Network interview. The interview was revealing. Cirincione's position was "I am right and there is no discussion. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. I have the superior position and everyone else is inferior."
This article used an excellent example Cirincione's position quoting Ayelet Waldman's summary to her son.
Abe: “Mommy, are Republicans evil?”
Me: “Yes, honey. Many are evil, the others are either stupid or selfish or both. And some are all three.”
This is the same position as Cirincione. I am right everyone else is wrong. In fact Waldman's words are hate speech but her side of the philosophical isle would never admit this.
It is wonderful to read this type of writing. Thank you. I look forward to your next post.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. Republican leaders would rather go along to get along than fight for our country. We'll have to do it ourselves or be prepared to live in the third world.
The author makes some important points and I found myself nodding my head throughout- but then I got to the second to the last paragraph. The "effects of Jersey Shore on our political discourse"- Erroneous! Try it the other way around. Long before we had Pauly D and Snookie- we had John Boehner and Joe Biden. Where else do you think GTL originated from? And how could we forget what preceded "beating the beat"… the infamous future first couple fist pound. Look at Richard Grennell. He looks like he's not only ready to join the political discourse, but also the second season of everyone's favorite reality TV show.
In the end, this discussion on the prospect of thermal nuclear warfare is probably best summed up by a political savant that we all respect:
“This situation is indescribable. You can’t even describe the situation that you’re about to get into the situation.”
Haunting words… haunting words indeed…
You have to keep laughing at them. Derision drives them even crazier. They can't stand not being taken seriously, because they KNOW they're better than the rest of us and they expect that we should just stop what we're doing and hang on their every word. And agree with them. Sorry – I'm not falling for it, and for them to actually expect me or anyone with a rational mind is laughable. Therefore, combat their anger and histrionics with our scorn, our contempt, our mockery and ridicule.
ha ha, you never come up with anything original –
how about this, let the extremists move in with you! give them a first seat into the way to destroy America, and then I imagine you will be finally be happy -
No kidding ps, this dope thinks a thug on tv is manufactured and designed to upset us? lol
all that exchange did (which I did watch live) was make me laugh at the fool
the feckless leader and his salvating over destroying America is what gets us all on edge -
Agreed sunshine, bring it on is my new mantra
just gotta watch out for the likes of Ayes, he likes to blow things up!
I doubt you are shocked, they have always acted this way -
It's not going to take 3 years frank – and I think you need to pay closer attention, there is no freakin way the demrats are going to pick up anything come November – never underestimate the power of people when they feel trapped, which is exactly what this administration has created -
Wright on.
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It's jooos.
I think that the treaty says on page (2) in wee little print.
In the event, of a really big misunderstanding. The first party will challenge the second party to a tickle fight. The loser will be the one that pees his pants first. The winner gets to laugh uncontrollably for 3 minutes. The two will then shake hands and all will be forgiven. You will be disqualified and be in breach of contract if you wear depends to the challenge.
Yup, I feel much safer with Barak Obama in Charge.
SARAH PALIN is now in Obamas head. She has more cajones than Obama the pansy chicken sh#t.
I never saw this Joe Schmo before, he looks like a union thug plain and simple! Is he related to Madonna?
As the TEA PARTY movement gains STRENGTH and NUMBERS, expect much more of this Verbal Violence from the increasing Frustrated, Infuriated and inherently Vicious Lying Socialist Left…
…it's just How They Roll – Always…. just look at History…
Yes, why are we surprised…the useful idiots have memorized the playbook to a tee as they march to their own demise. Wooden puppets by their masters will always be needed to start and continue a fire but eventually the fire is just ash when it becomes obsolete.
4th and 5th wonder of Israel:
The Desert Eagle and its little bro the Jericho
Joey cool it.
If all of the Fox News hating crowd actually looks with a critical eye at the rest of the MSM they will find that the Hate spewing increases from the Liberal Pundits not decreases. It is Only on Fox , especially Strategy Room (Online) that we get to see any kind of reasoned debate.
When Liberal Theology trumps reason you get the current state of affairs.
The way the left has been behaving the last couple of months speaks of the fear they are feeling. The Tea Party is scaring the pee out of them. They are not able to respond with any rationality….because their ideology has none….and they have put in place is sucking wind. All I can say is it will continue to escalate but it will not play out well for them in November.
This is the problem with political dialog today on both the left and right. They are both going right to attack mode bypassing any discussion of the issues.
You guys just proved my point. I'm a conservative and have evolved enough to figure out Fox and that all they're doing is selling controversy and yes, I suspect that they believed that Cirincione would or could react the way he did. They've successfully suck in dupes like you guys and your only response is to immediately strike out with the name calling in the same manner the libs do and you so detest. When I see you three clowns giving an opinion of Fox maybe I'll allow you some slack regarding your opinions of me or anyone else.
Enjoy your stupid humor and suck up your fill of Fox's spoon fed propaganda. I hope you enjoy making the ol' Rupert very comfortable there in Abu Dhabi and I'm sure Beck will appreciate your financial support as he makes his what…35 million this year?I hope you guys enjoy yourselves as you lie in your bunkers snuggling your assault rifles while drinking in Fox's blather in your usual excited mental state with your wide eyes and drooling mouths.
This is a great point. Most arguements I seem to read are logical fallicies, in fact I delight in the rarity of deductive logic, hell I'll even settle for a barely probable inductive one.
Ploughshares fund huh? It was said by a wise man that those that beat there swords into ploughshares end up plowing for those that do not.
What's wrong with making $35 million?
I bet, like Obama, he actually thinks Faux is pronounced like Fox
So it's only ok if Republicans cut the nukes? (Like Reagon….)
duh, if conservatives make money, it's evil, of course!
That moonbat is having a cow. I don't see what set him off so.
1) You assume that Cirincione is atypical for leftists. He's not. Or have you missed ACORN, SEIU, Obama, Van Jones, Howard Dean, Soros, Mary Mapes, the Wapo's editorial pages, Markos, and Huffpo? If you have, I don't know what to tell you.
2) You complain about name-calling then engage in it — "three clowns"? You lost all credibility right there.
3) You're no conservative. I'd peg you for an inside-the-beltway "establishment" conservative, just like Erickson. In other words, safe and harmless and wholly accepted by liberals.
SJCTeaParty,
My sister-in-law and her hubby had Bush Derangement so bad…
Classic Lefties… Traded in his 350ZX for a Camry hybrid when premium gas hit $4.00… One son want to be a pilot, but they would NEVER consider the military as an option… And she is a HS Guidance Counselor so none of "her" students will hear about military service either…
I talk about the weather when I'm over there…
Wingnuts projecting them as living in fantasy land??
I don't understand projecting?
Who is write here?
Yeah wright! Who do you think you are with your attacks? Reverend Right? I admire Joe telling the other guy to shut up while he was talking, and I'm a wright-wing conservative.
It's everybody's wright to have an opinion and posting comments has become some sort of ceremonial wright for anyone with an opinion. But if you can't spell wright, you have no wright posting comments, wright or wrong.
Am I not wright?
It is hard not to laugh at my own President, while Putin's here in the Americas nailing down alliances and arms deals with the Anti American block led by Venezula's Chavez. Obama is making useless deals with the Russian figurehead Medvedev. Meanwhile Irans Ahmedenajad is on TV night and day humiliating him. Obama wanted to hold a regional Nuclear summit to pressue Iran but the Turks quickly turned it to another round of Islamo-Israel bashing so now Israel pulls out, Obama still has to hold the confrence, nothng will be done on Iran, and he has to sit around with that stupid grin on his face watching Israel getting bashed.
What an inexperienced fool and a slow learner.
I loved when Hugo Chavez at a confrence gives Obama an Anti-American book as a "gift" and Obama holds it up for the camera's, what an idiot.
I'd give you +100 if I could. I used to teach Reasoned Discourse and found it actually fun to watch the lights go on in some of the students. Some came already enlightened and some never got it.
You do have a point about both sides needing to be accountable.
You may consider that it isn't particularly scary to have someone bemoan a tactic they consider dishonest and then ascribe it to the "lying socialist left". As you probably already know, the philosophy of this group contains this gem, "The ends justify the means." It follows that nothing they say can be trusted as fact without verification. If emoting, you might find the willingness to do anything to gain your goal to be chilling, scary, frightening, childish, or evil, if you choose.
However, if you are in the philosophical camp that starts out with the concept of moral relativity, then you would emote that it is refreshing to see someone do/say whatever is required to get their way. If you disagreed with their goal you would then criticize them for bemoaning a tactic and blaming it on the opponent.
Wow. If I can detach my own emotions from all of this for a moment…
what a fascinating demonstration of how to lose at poker. The Leftists who are now in the White House, admin, congress and the media (yes, even the Leftist trolls) have been shrieking like madmen for years. They have reduced the national discourse to childish playground fights consisting of "Uh huh, nu-uh, uh-huh," etc. In the immortal words of someone from the Monty Python team, "That's not argument, that's contradiction." That is not news.
Polite society shrinks from this, wonders quietly how people can be so concurrently rude and unable to see reality, and walks away. Polite society is now refusing to mind its manners, because the children are heading quickly into "Lord of the Flies" disarray. The children are being told they are nonsensical and we will no longer be bullied by the tactics of four-year-olds.
Any conservative who has ever been in an argument with a Leftist knows exactly what I am saying. The attitude and demeanor of these people is belligerent and condescending. They refuse to stick to a logical point and always end up calling the conservative selfish, greedy and unfeeling. Never mind that they have just made a case where my stuff is their stuff because it's the nice thing to do.
Of COURSE, the children are fighting back. What else can they think other than the conservatives are evil? Aren't all adults vilified for imposing the rules on children? Why would these incomplete intellects react any differently to people sticking up for America's law?
Fascinating.
There's nothing wrong with making 35 million. However, I'd rather see Americans who take a bullet for us make that kind of money rather than Elmer Beck who only cries and whimpers about "his" America (that is largely memorialized in 1950's television shows) as he wraps himself in the flag.
He's a huckster and way too many have be flim-flamed by him.
They began the name calling which is usually a tactic of the left so I question their true leanings. Besides "clowns" is a term of endearment. Would you have been happy with "pinhead"so often used by one of your heroes Bill O'Reilly?
Oh, I'm conservative alright and not anywhere near your description of "establishment" and do follow all of those issues and people you mentioned. I just hate to see/hear of other conservatives acting like the libs when they fall before the alter of so-called news and opinion personalities as being the gods of opinion, virtue and patriotism when they are selling themselves and like sheep, they follow them every night, every show (O'Reilly/Beck/Hannity) and book signing.
when he lost his control, he showed that he lost his position. That shows us all that they are floundering in the world of make believe.
Respectfully, this isn't what I see.
What I have seen is a steady escalation of rhetoric on both the left and the right that started in earnest back during the Reagan administration. As a conservative, I find more fault with the left than with the right, but both sides have contributed to the process.
I don't see any obvious place where this ends. That concerns me.
He is so faux intelligent !
Yes that's true, but we are the only country ever to use a nuclear/atomic weapon on anybody.
The world is right handed and it just really ticks the lefties off…i feel soooo bad
Ummm, Reagan anyone? Didn't he say it was his greatest dream to see a world free from the threat of nuclear arms? Anyway, I still think 1550 is plenty
Excellent additions. To those, I'll add the Tavor. I saw a couple American special forces guys test out that baby, and they loved it.
I love it when they lose control. They always end up revealing their true side.
Even in collage the left cant comely sit down and talk about issues with the the right.
France was invaded 5 times from 1814 to 1940. 4 of those 5 times France lost.
No French government will ever give up the bomb.
Russia was invaded 3 times from 1812 to 1941. Losing 1 of 3 times. The 1941 invasion cost 20 million Russian lives.
No Russian government will ever give up the bomb.
The American left live in la la land.
Fascinating indeed.
I especially like the "Lord of the Flies" analogy, Red. It is so fitting, considering something I saw at HotAir from Morrisey, regarding Rights and Wrongs following a protest at SRLC by "children" with slogans stating "Housing is a human right" and "Healthcare is a human right."
Thank you for the only useful comment in this string. The left have no facts to back up their agenda, so the only argument they can make is to ridicule and change the topic. Political non-answer answers are no longer acceptable to the American voter. Unfortunately the television-based media, even those trying to represent a fair & balanced argument, aren't given enough time in this type of interview to come back with a "but you didn't answer my question" retort. The filibustering and stall techniques of changing the subject or throwing blame succesfully take up the entire interview slot.
So now quoting the Founding Fathers is "sensationalism"? Perhaps the "faithful" are faithful to the Constitution. At least the people on FOX aren't excreble as are Maddow, Olberman, and Schultz and Matthews. You never hear the Fox people wish others dead as does Schultz, Ed got his bell rung too many times when he played Canadian League Football. The rest are just intellectually dishonest and Marxist of course.
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