Imagine if you could get full salary and benefits for a decent paying job and you didn’t have to work to get it. All you had to do was be accused of a crime.

What crime, you ask? How about molesting school kids? That’s what the teachers‘ unions in states like California and New York State are doing: coddling accused criminals — at your expense. And it’s probably going on elsewhere as well.
Believe it or not, New York is a lot tougher on them than California. From the New York Post:
At the beginning of his 32-year career as a math teacher in Queens, Francisco Olivares allegedly im pregnated and married a 16-year-old girl he had met when she was a 13-year-old student at his Corona junior high, IS 61, the Post learned.
He sexually molested two 12-year-old pupils a decade later and another student four years after that, the city Department of Education charged. But none of it kept Olivares, 60, from collecting his $94,154 salary.
He hasn’t set foot in a classroom in seven years since beating criminal and disciplinary charges. Chancellor Joel Klein keeps Olivares in a “rubber room,” a district office where teachers accused of misconduct sit all day with nothing to do.
That would be $94K a year for sitting around drinking coffee and reading the paper. Sounds like a DMV job, without the actual “work.” The reason he wasn’t fired is “state laws” and “union rules.” The unholy alliance of unions and government is one of the things that has led us to the mess we’re in now. When you can’t fire government workers, you’re stuck with the dregs sucking away tax dollars in the form of their bloated salaries and benefits. And in many cases, they will get well-funded retirement packages for years of incompetence, thievery or worse. All in the name of “public service.”
But Olivares’s fate in New York is hard time compared to the Golden State. In California, accused teachers are paid to stay at home. In just the Los Angeles Unified School District alone, the cost of these teachers sitting on their hands is helping drive the state into bankruptcy.
About 160 teachers and other staff sit idly in buildings scattered around the sprawling district, waiting for allegations of misconduct to be resolved.
The housed are accused, among other things, of sexual contact with students, harassment, theft or drug possession. Nearly all are being paid. All told, they collect about $10 million in salaries per year — even as the district is contemplating widespread layoffs of teachers because of a financial shortfall.
Now you may say that these teachers were only accused, they well may be innocent. Yes, some of them may be. And hopefully the innocent will be cleared. But in many incidents, such as the Olivares case, there is no doubt because there’s a provable history, including a list of victims. And yet the state continues to pay his salary.
This is becoming a common practice in many states where teachers’ unions hold sway. When they can’t fire them, in some cases schools have had to offer instructors cash payouts to quit. That’s right, cash bribes to quit after committing some kind of crime.

Unions and public sector jobs are the most unholy alliance of our times. These beasts should never have mated, because they’ve issued forth monstrous offspring in the form of dire consequences that no one probably saw coming. And many victims have been left in their destructive wake.
You have two bureaucracies with the dual intent of protecting their power at all cost and increasing in size every year. These goals lead to a sickening metastasis that rots both entities over time until they become bloated, cancerous threats to the health of the body politic. Public service jobs now pay more, offer more generous guaranteed benefits and are far more difficult to lose (in fact, almost impossible) than those in the private sector. The unions have made sure of that, and the result is that every private sector job is now viewed by an increasingly ravenous and rapacious government-union-lawyer complex the way a vampire eyes a tasty carotid artery.
While many pubic sector jobs have some intrinsic value, such as police, firemen, public works, and yes, teachers, the unions have created a system in which those who should be terminated can’t be. Not with increasingly absurd legal hoops to be jumped through that the unions keep demanding and effecting. This leads to the worst kind of corruption and waste at a time when the nation’s states and federal government are drowning in unsustainable debts and a coming tidal wave of unfunded mandates.
When the government protects and pays criminals with our tax dollars, it’s time for some real change.






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Yet another reason (as if another were needed) why government employees should not be allowed to unionize.
If you search on Google for "Rubber room teachers" you can the excellent full-length article in the New Yorker (yes i read and enjoy the NYr)
My new career plan is to become a teacher in NYC, get drunk at my desk, and then draw my $96K salary for the rest of my tenure. SWEET
The honest TRUTH is that all of these ridiculous insane situations are the results of democrats, liberals, progressives et al.
interfering with the use of common sense by the rest of us.
Teacher's Unions should be banned.
I am a retired teacher and lifetime member of NEA. I am sickened by this story. Do all unions, organizations have to devolve into this? What starts out as a good idea, teachers joining together to look after their interests, seem to always be taken over by some Marxist/power-hungry group and degenerate into this and worse. Look at SEIU, they are now the thugs of the far left, and dues are being used to promote a socialist agenda! I doubt that is what the rank and file want. It sems to happen at the national level. I think teachers and other union people need to go local, state at the most, and bail out of national organizations, it seems they are all infilterated with people intent on destroying America as a free land.
This is nothing short of a racketeer
New York tends to pay lower wages for its unionized city workers than what the area's cost-of-living is (especially police and firemen), but makes it up on the backside with the ability to retire early with 90 percent of pay. Still a fiscal problem, but the salaries don't start in the rarefied air California's public sector unions do, where the lavish retirement benefits are paired with the salaries that are well above what the average private sector employees earn.
Of course, this isn't because New York's liberals are so much more fiscally responsible — they just pulled the stunt California is doing now back in the 1960s when John Lindsay was rolled by every public sector union under the sun, which led to the city's bankruptcy bail-out in the mid-70s and forced a (admittedly very) limited cap on public sector spending that still exists to this day. The Golden State's Democratic politicians won't reign in their public union salaries/benefits until they're forced to in the same way New York was 35 years ago.
THEY'RE AFTER THE SCHOOL CHILDREN AGAIN!
Looks like this site won't allow the words needed to describe what the liberals/populists/progressives are up to now.
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Stand and Deliver
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Obama's Safe Schools Czar
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Yeah and in Texas a teacher can work her "last day" as a janitor and collect teacher retirement AND Social Security even though she hasn't paid a dime into it until that last day…LOVE THOSE UNION THUGS!!! BTW how are the REST of you doing trying to make ends meet for your family???
I live in a union town and I am well aware of how unions protect workers that commit crimes, act like thugs and/or just don't work while at the same time punishing those workers that do their job. I have witnessed it at various unionized workplaces as well as knowing many in unions that inform me of these things in other workplaces.
Unions had their place in history and were needed at one time however their time has passed. Unions today are nothing but political machines.
Infuriating, but hardly surprising. I must agree with Dave C 64 when he writes that the time for unions has passed.
Put in a word for me, wouldja? I got that drunk thing down and I have subbed a few times. I have a degree–will I need to certify?
What starts out as a good idea, teachers joining together to look after their interests…
The problem is that the rank and file teacher may have thought that they were getting together to look after their interests but the Union Organizers know better.
Also, what in the above essay is against the interests of the teachers? Getting paid to do nothing? Immunity from being fired? All of those things are great for the teachers but not so much for the kids or us chumps who have to pay for a failed educational system.
Maybe the premise that teachers should unionize is what needs to be challenged.
Maybe public education should be exposed to the same force that allows virtually every other institution in the U.S. to develop excellence….competition.
And this is the model that Obama wants our health care system to folow.
Legislators have the power to stop this nonsense. Have some ba**s for God's sake and stop playing puppet to special interests. can we please bring back Tar and Feathers and Caning as a way to keep these people in line with some basic morality.
Unions are useless at this point. They are just money-grubbing whores. I pity the union-members who fork over their money to the fat cat leaders to play with as they please. Then again, no I don't. You know what you were getting into joining a union. It's just a shame now that so many people will lose their union benefits because we can't afford to pay them now.
Unions have become the "legal" mafias of this country. Thuggery, theft, bribery, coercian, and for what? They cost the government and private companies outrageous amounts of money….just because they can. All while they line the pockets of their leadership and bend the arms of politicians to pass radical legislation.
Like it has been said above….THEIR TIME IS OVER!
Unions defeat the purpose of calling work, well, work.
reminds me of a joke, how many seiu members does it take to change a light bulb?
seven, you got a problem with that?
how many congressmen does it take to change a light bulb?
if you can get a majority vote, you can outlaw them!
unions are evil and no better then a street gang.
We (still) live in California. My son's high school soccer coach (and teacher at his school) was convicted of sexual molestation. He was fired and is serving time in jail. But then
he went to a nonUnionized charter school.
(my closing phrase was cut off.)
Big T's way up….You're starting to sound like me…This whole union/legislature situation lies at the heart of ALL the problems in California…We have the Big Gov Corrupters, protecting the Big Union Fraudsters; voracious pigs who as a group are sending Calif and other States over the cliff..
The State will go into receivership and maybe then find a way to finally diminish their power…
Education is a different playground. I have know many good teachers that were fired for bad reasons, you know, like hiring the Supterintendant's relative. Happens all the time. Teachers need some protection. I think that just like the Federal government, when the power and money ends up way away from whence it came, coruption has a fertile ground! That is why big unions, big teachers organizations, etc. is where the bad stuff happens, it is too far from the source!
Teachers need some job protection. Each state is different, but schools are very political institutions, and teachers can easily end up on the wrong side of some local situation. The problem is the top structure. Someway we need a way to throw out the top, and control them, just like our fine elected officials, right!
That is really scary, isn't it Obama is really helping the unions gain power!
One can only wonder just how often this happens. We must wake up!
“To form a more perfect union,” …Yak! We as a country have devolved into a seething cesspool of championed worthlessness, where the least common denominator is extolled as the best among us. To think, that the term “rubber room,” seeps into the vernacular and the taxpayers accept the premise, while doing nothing. NY, and CA have become the “poster child” for what’s wrong with this country, my God people…wake up and find some common sense, fire these creeps, demand it! …sheesh!
I remember as a kid, my grandfather telling me about his experiences with the Teamsters. He ran a large mfg company (non-union). He knew each of the employees by name and knew most of their children's names (it was a small town). He greeted them at the door when they came in for their shifts. They were well-paid and happy. When hard times hit and families could not afford lunch and milk for their kids at school, he paid out of his own pocket to feed them. Then, the Teamsters rolled in and tried to strong-arm both he and his employees (their were almost 400 employees working for him at the time). This included death threats to he and his family, as well as shooting at his non-union truck drivers as they passed through the union stronghold of New Jersey. They even tried to keep him from handing out Christmas bonus' to his employees. Did it work? HELL NO! It turns out that some of his employees took to feeding the Teamster thugs their own medicine and they could not swallow it. They remain, to this day, non-union and proud of it.
The point is that if you treat your employees with respect and kindness, pay them well, you won't have as hard of a time dealing with the union thugs. If, however, you don't treat them well, making them look to thugs to represent them, chances are it is your own fault. CARD CHECK may change this, however. God help the US of A!
I have worked n a couple of states where I had no choice in whether or not to join the union. I hated forking over my money but if I wanted to work that's what I had to do.
As the article stated, it is important to protect from allegations being sufficient to terminate someone. However with sufficient evidence these bozo's should be given the boot. Citizens should force school districts to knuckle down and get these unions to agree to binding mediation to allow for termination.
Education is a different playground. I have know many good teachers that were fired for bad reasons, you know, like hiring the Supterintendant's relative. Happens all the time.
Look, I know teachers render a valuable service but…..BOO F**KING HOO!
Welcome to the real world. Good people get fired for bad reasons ALL THE TIME.
If there were real competition in K-12 Education instead of a Government monopoly then administrators couldn't get away with behavior like that for very long.
Teachers need some job protection.
Yes, and that protection is called being good at what you do just like the rest of us have to do in order to keep our jobs.
You want to throw out the "top"…let the money follow the child and let public / private schools compete for the children and you will see the "top" disappear.
I know what you mean. My husband works at a company that uses Union labor. Once, they had one of the company's founders family members come through on an inspection and he walked in on a Union worker sleeping on the job. His immediate order was "Fire that man." The company couldn't comply because of Union rules and protections. The nap wasn't an isolated incident. They've had all sorts of misconduct including sex in the parking lots, and the Union bails them out when they get in trouble.
The Union went on a very short-lived strike once while my husband was there. They had plans in place to cover with the company employees should it happen. Company employees, while understaffed and many of them long-time desk jockeys removed from the production cycle, managed to outperform the Union staff at its best in those days.
Everyone was up in arms about the Big Three "jobs bank" (as they should), but now much is this being publicized?
Great example of the left supressing stories. Thanks to James Hutnall!
At least the auto workers were laid off waiting for another position within the company – not criminals!
I'm the first one to call for cooler heads to prevail, but these Progressives are trying my patience. As in Maslow's pyramid, If we can't get through to their higher order thinking, maybe if they're in fear of their lives, or their livelyhood, we'll get their attention.
The trick is, if you're in that sweet spot of being accused, but they can't prove it, but they suspect it's real, they can't risk lawsuits by letting you work and they can't fire you, so these people get put on the sidelines with pay.
Unfortunately, this great free for all doesn't apply to everyone working for a school. In order to qualify for the benefits, there is criteria you must meet. It requires an alcoholic principal that can't focus on one thing at a time, much less multi-task. The principal should run personal errands multiple times during the day and when present, a teacher and counselor must pull the principal off of a third-grader being attacked by the principal. Teachers should also get paid to work at an Elementary school and to combine already large classrooms to leave early to go to the highschool to teach after school sports and get paid for that too.
They found out that I was going to report the principal about the abuse to the students, and guess what? I GOT FIRED! And I was in a Union! It happened to two other people before me! When it comes time for their referendums, I vote no because I see how they waste money.
A tough situation. I do think agreeing to binding (that is the key) mediation could curtail this. Sadly someone somewhere will either
1. Make a false accusation and a teacher will get fired.
2. A creep will molest some kid
Hopefully we can minimize both.
The problem here is the transparency – if you're actively in one of these rubber rooms, why the hell are you working on other projects? If charges are dropped, then you get reinstated. If charges are instigated, then no money until the outcome of the case. It seems a combination of union thuggery and government ineptitude.
The unions are most of the auto workers problems.
They have priced themselves out of work. Between the unions and the enviro nazis it is almost impossible for a company to compete.
If they're going to pay them whilst in the "rubber room" they need to literally place them in a rubber room and adjust the pay scale accordingly. This is utter insanity!
Whatever happened to the principle of subsidiarity where parents, at every local level, determine what goes on with minimal guidelines set by the state? Oh yeah, unions and law-dogs run rough-shod over everyone else's rights.
Yes, then those same workers take their retirement money to Florida.
Agreed.
Why should teachers have protections that other types of employees (lab technicians, salespeople, painters) do not?
Why are teachers special?
You can fight it. It'll take 2 years or so and a good lawyer but you can challenge it all under religious freedom. It has been done.
Don't paint with too broad of a brush. Remember, teachers are terribly suseptable to politicians (their bosses) and take risk in being a know conservative. As a past teacher union local president, of conservative bent, religious and a gun clinger -who is very aware of the jobs coming from capitalism, I have had to protect several teachers from local gov't types who have tried to fire them for saving money (two new cute hires for one old grannie type) sex ( the boss doesn't like her anymore) and silly things like being disorganized, based upon venitian blinds being at different levels, not giving the school board's daughter her usual "A."and refusing to change the grades of a student with a powerful parent.
Right? Can you imagine doctors and nurses practicing negligently, high on drugs or worse, being protected from firing due to "doctor shortages", or protected from malpractice thanks to some POS legislation designed to protect the bloated health-care system?
NO F'ING THANK YOU.
It might help if some kids were taught better by their parents that accusing a teacher you don't like of sexual harrassment is not a great plan or hilarious. This unforunately is part of the current culture though. Some parents are proud when their children talk back the a teacher, walk out of class when they are chastised for something, etc. I went to school with kids like this. Even right now in pharm-d school my husband goes to school with "adults" who think it is okay to accuse a teacher of sexual harrassment because they don't like something he said to them or were offended by something. Part of it is also pc culture.
But this happens in private jobs too, and these employees have to deal with it. Teachers will have to learn too. If you are a really great teacher with a wonderful record most schools would be hesitant to fire you until proven or convicted of a crime.
How interesting. Where is the outrage that came about because of the supposed "coverup" by the Church.
Wait til the facts come out about the "transfer" of serial teacher abusers from one school district to another…..
Problem: the law allows you only 90 days to file a complaint in Penna., thus protecting the state from the very statutes that they want to make retroactive so victims can sue the deep pockets of the church.
Think your taxes are high now?
Yeah, I don't get why anyone would think it funny to ruin a person's life with false accusations.
I think the malpractice payouts are going to be supplemented by the US taxpayer in order to get the malpractice insurance carriers to go along with this bill. He's offered unions, health insurance companies, drug companies, and other politicians bribes to get this health care monstrosity passed into law, he surely wouldn't try to cut his trial lawyers buddies out of their piece of the government-money pie.
When I was in college, my School of Ed. peers would come back from their student teaching appalled at finding "rubber rooms" at the schools they were placed in. But try to bring it up to anyone who's been in the system for a few years, and they act like you are accusing them personally of molesting kids instead of pointing out a flaw in the system. But yeah, they're there for the kids, right?
Surely no young woman would make up false charges of sexual abuse in order to punish a man who displeased her, right, Tawana Brawley? Right, Crystal Magnum?
Right?
If I remember correctly, only 1 President has broken the Union strangle hold in the last 100 years, PR broke the
Airtraffic Control creeps. That's the only one, it will take a strong President and Congress to destroy these malignant orgs. JFK allowed the GD Federal Gov to unionize….JFK was not much better than Carter, Clinton or BO.
NEVER, EVER VOTE for a DEMOCRAT AGAIN!
Same is happening in IL, too. They call it tenure……
When I purchased a burger at Burger King for $1.58. The counter girl took my $2 and I was digging for my change when I pulled 8 cents from my pocket and gave it to her. She stood there, holding the nickel and 3 pennies, while looking at the screen on her register. I sensed her discomfort and tried to tell her to just give me two quarters, but she hailed the manager for help. While he tried to explain the transaction to her, she stood there and cried.. Why do I tell you this? Because of the evolution in teaching math since the 1950s…
The rest of the story…
http://usataxpayer.org/?0079735402
Obama's Gay Safe Schools Czar
http://usataxpayer.org/?0098557572
Enjoyed all the replies. I don't guess teachers deserve any better treatment than anyone else. What I saw was that without some power, teachers were pawns of local power that often had no more if as much interest in educating the children as teachers. In utopia there are not school boards that will put all the money into sports and pay elementary teachers peanuts. There are not principals that abuse their power and run off good teachers and reward bad ones that sleep with them in the locker room! Competition is a tough master in education. How do you measure? Tests? They are the most unreliable. Teachers teach to the test all the time if pressured. Parents, many only want a white washing, many do not want to have to help in any way. more in next…..
All of your concerns are valid and are once again the reasons we need competition against the government monopoly where petty bureaucrats fight while children are left to pay the price.
Ahh, the old teach to the test objection….
Look, if the tests measure the ability of a student to read, write, comprehend and compute…then F**K YES, teach to the test. If the tests are unreliable then design tests that are reliable.
Also, why is it that tests are reliable enough for teachers to use them to assign a grade in class but when it comes to testing the effectiveness of a teacher….then they suddenly become unreliable?
Kids were much better educated before the Dept of Education, when we had 1 room school houses.
Last paragraph: "pubic (sic) sector jobs.."
Start with the Legislature….They make it all possible… But let's not encourage violence when they seem to be committing Collective suicide…
Teachers wouldn't need nearly as much protection if the power structure of Unions and Education were removed. Let individual schools or groups of schools of schools band together to educate competitively and the good teachers will be treasured.
I was unaware that Charter Schools hired convicted sexual predators.
I doubt they would do anything to you if you got drunk at your desk. I'm guessing that you would be considered a role model, possibly even Teacher of the Year.
If you really wanted to start some trouble, flunk the dumb kids. But you would probably actually lose your job if you did that.
And this guy is still alive?
oops
And to homeschool.
AMEN. WTF is so special about teaching that teachers need to be treated any differently than any other employee in any other industry? i'm sick & f-ing tired of hearing how tough teachers have it . "Oh, you ought to try teaching- you'd quit in a week!" BULL F'ING SH!T. i did a brief stint as a SCAB during a strike and let me tell you, i've worked a LOT HARDER, for a LOT LESS MONEY. i came away with the distinct impression that yeah, teaching is really hard- if you're one of the many incompetent schmucks drawn to it. otherwise, not so much. the great myth of the over-worked, underpaid public school teacher, along with 'underfunded' education, is wrecking this country….
Schools are very political institutions because they are liberal bastions of indoctrination, Surprise! Not. All the better that they should have competition and all districts should have voucher programs. If the fruit is rotten on the vine kill the root. Public sector jobs are nor more deserving of protection than private.
Every job has its politics; teachers shouldn't be treated with kid gloves. I too was a teacher and saw more abuses of the tenure system than benefits. I saw many good teachers leave the job because of tyrants-with-tenure thinking they could do whatever the hell they wanted because they were bulletproof. That doesn't benefit anyone–least of all the kids who end up with crappy teachers.
I work in city government with some fine, hard-working individuals. Unfortunately, our union insures that I also work with some certifiably insane, deeply disturbed and spectacularly incompetent folks, too. We have people on payroll, working with the public, who have been arrested for child abuse, have blown up an assaulted customers and staff, and who have stalked fellow employees. One staff person routinely makes racist comments, both verbally and IN WRITING, about customers, and she was recently PROMOTED. Anytime admin. wants to do something about these people, they run to the unions, who threaten legal action. It's an unholy alliance for both their co-workers and the hapless public they "serve", indeed.
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