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]]> By: paulrevere101 http://bigjournalism.com/jsexton/2010/07/27/journolist-frankenkleins-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-1184673 paulrevere101 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:19:11 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/?p=99290#comment-1184673 PART 4 The majority of the so-called antiwar movement, in fact, voted for a candidate that PROMISED to contract one war only to be able to profoundly EXPAND another. Obama all along said that he is not against all war, just “dumb wars.” If there existed an antiwar movement that had integrity—it would have said that “all wars are dumb,” and we withhold our support for just another dyed-in-the-wool warmonger. TWO Party Paradyne System News clip: <a href="http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2824363/the_obama_deception_extra_part_2/" target="_blank">http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2824363/the_obama_d...</a> PART 4
The majority of the so-called antiwar movement, in fact, voted for a candidate that PROMISED to contract one war only to be able to profoundly EXPAND another. Obama all along said that he is not against all war, just “dumb wars.” If there existed an antiwar movement that had integrity—it would have said that “all wars are dumb,” and we withhold our support for just another dyed-in-the-wool warmonger.

TWO Party Paradyne System News clip: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2824363/the_obama_d...

]]> By: paulrevere101 http://bigjournalism.com/jsexton/2010/07/27/journolist-frankenkleins-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-1184669 paulrevere101 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:17:54 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/?p=99290#comment-1184669 PART 3 Even though not one progressive issue has been propagated during his term, these war supporters are looking forward to another four years of the dance of death. Right foot kill—left foot torture—spin around for environmental devastation—allemande left for health care fascism—and shimmy right for bankster bailouts. Wasn’t eight years of this crap during the Bush stain enough for y’all? Many antiwar groups and people who claim they are for peace lose their minds during election season thinking that the razor-thin difference between the Democrat and Republican is enough to go ape-shit crazy in working for the Democrat. Just take the last two Democratic candidates, for example. Kerry and Obama both supported more war. An “antiwar” movement de-legitimizes itself when it works hard for a candidate who does not promise total and rapid withdrawal of troops from wherever they happen to be at the time AND does not promise to end war as an imperial tool of corporate conquest. PART 3
Even though not one progressive issue has been propagated during his term, these war supporters are looking forward to another four years of the dance of death. Right foot kill—left foot torture—spin around for environmental devastation—allemande left for health care fascism—and shimmy right for bankster bailouts. Wasn’t eight years of this crap during the Bush stain enough for y’all?
Many antiwar groups and people who claim they are for peace lose their minds during election season thinking that the razor-thin difference between the Democrat and Republican is enough to go ape-shit crazy in working for the Democrat. Just take the last two Democratic candidates, for example. Kerry and Obama both supported more war. An “antiwar” movement de-legitimizes itself when it works hard for a candidate who does not promise total and rapid withdrawal of troops from wherever they happen to be at the time AND does not promise to end war as an imperial tool of corporate conquest.

]]> By: paulrevere101 http://bigjournalism.com/jsexton/2010/07/27/journolist-frankenkleins-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-1184649 paulrevere101 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:13:48 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/?p=99290#comment-1184649 PART 2 During the campaign, many colleagues and friends of mine, assured me that Obama was just saying this hostile crap to “get elected” and once he was elected that he would “do the right thing.” Well, first of all, why support such a pandering Jackwagon, and secondly, how has that ever worked? Three days after Obama swore to uphold and defend the Constitution, he drone-bombed a “target” in Pakistan killing 3 dozen civilians—and since that day he has elevated the art of drone bombings to new heights, while the so-called antiwar movement looks on in silent complacency and while Democratic operatives disguised as antiwar groups are hoping against hope that Obama comes out strong with a new antiwar marketing campaign to assure his “re-election.” PART 2
During the campaign, many colleagues and friends of mine, assured me that Obama was just saying this hostile crap to “get elected” and once he was elected that he would “do the right thing.” Well, first of all, why support such a pandering Jackwagon, and secondly, how has that ever worked? Three days after Obama swore to uphold and defend the Constitution, he drone-bombed a “target” in Pakistan killing 3 dozen civilians—and since that day he has elevated the art of drone bombings to new heights, while the so-called antiwar movement looks on in silent complacency and while Democratic operatives disguised as antiwar groups are hoping against hope that Obama comes out strong with a new antiwar marketing campaign to assure his “re-election.”

]]> By: paulrevere101 http://bigjournalism.com/jsexton/2010/07/27/journolist-frankenkleins-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-1184613 paulrevere101 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 21:56:12 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/?p=99290#comment-1184613 PART 1 <a href="http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/07/cindy-sheehan-says-stop-voting-for-either-wing-of-the-war-party-calls-for-impeaching-obama/" rel="nofollow">http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/07...</a> Cindy Sheehan Says Stop Voting for Either Wing of the War Party, Calls for Impeaching Obama July 21st, 2010 · 26 Comments Via On The Wilder Side:Requiem for the Antiwar Movement by Cindy Sheehan PART 1 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/07...

Cindy Sheehan Says Stop Voting for Either Wing of the War Party, Calls for Impeaching Obama
July 21st, 2010 · 26 Comments
Via On The Wilder Side:Requiem for the Antiwar Movement by Cindy Sheehan

]]> By: Hesed http://bigjournalism.com/jsexton/2010/07/27/journolist-frankenkleins-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-1178246 Hesed Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:26:23 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/?p=99290#comment-1178246 1. Cool. You're entitled to your opinion. It's easier to just go with the flow, yes. 2. In the end, the 'hard evidence' if the JournoList archive is exposed still has to be verified as those individuals and as relevant. Most people will look at it as much to do about nothing, as you really don't see anyone policing the news/media outlets for objectivity. Never said BJ was supposedly making a tactical error. 1. Cool. You're entitled to your opinion. It's easier to just go with the flow, yes.
2. In the end, the 'hard evidence' if the JournoList archive is exposed still has to be verified as those individuals and as relevant. Most people will look at it as much to do about nothing, as you really don't see anyone policing the news/media outlets for objectivity.

Never said BJ was supposedly making a tactical error.

]]> By: di_da_is_alpha http://bigjournalism.com/jsexton/2010/07/27/journolist-frankenkleins-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-1177026 di_da_is_alpha Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:54:56 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/?p=99290#comment-1177026 What Bed Bug Haywood won't admit to, is that all journalism is "opinion" to one degree or another. Progressive insects have used that fact to spin history for the last 100 years. It was spun before then too, but the progs have taken it to a whole nuther level. Name a current journalist who is totally objective. There are none, and that is why these bugs are so freaked out. We know that the ones on the far left, though they claim to be objective, are the worst offenders when it comes to "spin", and, lets face facts, outright lies. Oh, the best laid plans of mice and mosquitos, it's all crashing down around their antenna equipped heads. Someone once wrote that history is just propaganda written by the victors. Our problem is that our honesty and commitment to equal protection of the law leaves the majority vulnerable to a zealous minority, a minority that wants to destroy our free society in order to implement their "hive mentality" society. If Bed Bug felt the way that it claims, would it really be here secreting it's vial pablum? What Bed Bug Haywood won't admit to, is that all journalism is "opinion" to one degree or another. Progressive insects have used that fact to spin history for the last 100 years. It was spun before then too, but the progs have taken it to a whole nuther level. Name a current journalist who is totally objective. There are none, and that is why these bugs are so freaked out. We know that the ones on the far left, though they claim to be objective, are the worst offenders when it comes to "spin", and, lets face facts, outright lies. Oh, the best laid plans of mice and mosquitos, it's all crashing down around their antenna equipped heads.

Someone once wrote that history is just propaganda written by the victors. Our problem is that our honesty and commitment to equal protection of the law leaves the majority vulnerable to a zealous minority, a minority that wants to destroy our free society in order to implement their "hive mentality" society. If Bed Bug felt the way that it claims, would it really be here secreting it's vial pablum?

]]> By: Liberty_Dude http://bigjournalism.com/jsexton/2010/07/27/journolist-frankenkleins-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-1176982 Liberty_Dude Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:26:30 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/?p=99290#comment-1176982 "most people know better" I have to take issue with you there for two reasons. 1. Lots of people have their heads up there ***, and have neither the time nor inclination to do anything other than accept what they're told uncritically. 2. There's a big difference between suspecting collusion and having hard evidence that suggests the collusion is in fact far worse than you could have imagined. As for how BJ is supposedly making a tactical error by focusing on journolist, I have two questions for you. 1. Seeing as we're being really nitpicky about wasting our time with what is effective vs. what is not, what do your complaints accomplish? I would point out that since you started posting about this Obama has not been impeached. 2. What in your opinion, should Big Journalism, a blog dedicated to taking down the MSM monolith, spend its time on rather than hard evidence of a conspiracy between supposedly objective "journalists"? "most people know better"

I have to take issue with you there for two reasons.
1. Lots of people have their heads up there ***, and have neither the time nor inclination to do anything other than accept what they're told uncritically.
2. There's a big difference between suspecting collusion and having hard evidence that suggests the collusion is in fact far worse than you could have imagined.

As for how BJ is supposedly making a tactical error by focusing on journolist, I have two questions for you.
1. Seeing as we're being really nitpicky about wasting our time with what is effective vs. what is not, what do your complaints accomplish? I would point out that since you started posting about this Obama has not been impeached.
2. What in your opinion, should Big Journalism, a blog dedicated to taking down the MSM monolith, spend its time on rather than hard evidence of a conspiracy between supposedly objective "journalists"?

]]> By: Hesed http://bigjournalism.com/jsexton/2010/07/27/journolist-frankenkleins-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-1176906 Hesed Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:45:39 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/?p=99290#comment-1176906 There are laws against not including information by journalists, or laws against manipulating a story to make it sound better/worse? Hadn't heard that one. Sedition. Certainly you jest, or don't understand the term. There are laws against not including information by journalists, or laws against manipulating a story to make it sound better/worse?

Hadn't heard that one.

Sedition. Certainly you jest, or don't understand the term.

]]> By: Hesed http://bigjournalism.com/jsexton/2010/07/27/journolist-frankenkleins-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-1176898 Hesed Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:44:11 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/?p=99290#comment-1176898 The MSM is silent about a lot of things. Why isn't it big news on FOX for example? Sorry, but when that segment may come on, I'm sure many make the bathroom run, or flip channels. JurnoList isn't a hard hitting news item, IMO. The MSM is silent about a lot of things.

Why isn't it big news on FOX for example? Sorry, but when that segment may come on, I'm sure many make the bathroom run, or flip channels.

JurnoList isn't a hard hitting news item, IMO.

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