It’s not unusual for me to have the TV turned on when I’m working around the house and when the news comes on, it’s like liberal bias dressed up as white noise. But there was one story last Friday that really caught my ear because the editorializing was even worse than the white noise I usually hear on the news. The story was from Brian Ross of ABC News reporting on a jet engine for a new fighter jet called the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

Normally a subject like this would be far from my usual portfolio of junk science but I have been hearing a ton of ads about this on Washington, D.C., radio lately. And since I have family members that work in defense, my curiosity was piqued and I started poking around.
Let me set this up very quickly. The Ross piece focused on what amounts to a fight between a couple of different corporations that each want to produce the engines for this new fighter jet. The Pentagon seems happy with one particular engine – made by Pratt & Whitney – while there’s pretty strong sentiment in Congress to have two vendors for this engine, the second being a joint effort between General Electric and Rolls Royce.
I visited the ABC News website to check out the Ross piece in full and was immediately struck by the headline for the video package:
Pentagon Chokes on Pork
Aside from the gross imagery evoked by the headline, the sheer audacity of this naked editorializing really caught my attention. Since when does ABC News get to decide what is and isn’t pork, not to mention the whole choking thing? Within seconds of beginning to watch the story, the editorializing increased:
“Congressional craziness…”
“A pork barrel project…”
“Boondoggle…”
I’m no expert on defense, but it’s pretty common knowledge in Washington that the Pentagon and Congress don’t always see eye to eye on military matters, so my first reaction was to wonder why this is even news in the first place. Ross’s piece mentioned that this second engine has been funded for many years and the project to produce it is nearly complete so there’s nothing new there.

Then there was the overall tone of bias, which I found over the top, even for Brian Ross. But it just didn’t make sense. Why so much blatant bias in a story that was wasn’t even news in the first place? The key, perhaps, has nothing to do with the subject matter but the competitive pressures in TV newsrooms.
GE, as you may know, is the parent company of NBC, which competes head to head with ABC in the evening news sweepstakes. Here are the Neilsen ratings for the Big Three evening network newscasts for the week of May 10:
NBC 7,910,000 total viewers
ABC 7,320,000 total viewers
CBS 5,570,000 total viewers
For the time being, ABC is right on the heels of NBC for evening news supremacy. So does it make sense for ABC to launch a proxy war against NBC by doing a hit piece on the parent company of its archrival? With network news part of the dying mainstream media it certainly wouldn’t surprise me, as networks scramble for the scraps of audience that remain from their once mighty monopoly on information.
Consider a few other things about the Brian Ross piece. Ross calls GE’s efforts to promote its jet engine, “an end run” to continue making it. Since when is promoting one’s interests an “end run,” and how could this characterization be considered anything other than an attempt to tarnish the company? Pratt & Whitney is promoting its position in advertising I hear every day on the radio but that wasn’t in Ross’s piece.
Ross then notes that GE has lobbyists, including three former senators. Does he really expect anybody to believe that the other company doesn’t have lobbyists too? Ross doesn’t mention that in his story either.

Here’s another nifty piece of bias by Ross. Check this out:
GE and its supporters in Congress say a second engine would create competition for Pratt & Whitney and result in long term savings.
On the surface, it looks fair – even complimentary – but it’s essentially damnation by faint praise. What Ross neglects to report is that it was the non-partisan Government Accountability Office that concluded in 2009 that a two-engine program would result in $20 billion in savings.
Who has more credibility on cost savings, a company that wants a piece of business or the GAO? Ross knows precisely who has more credibility, which may account for why the company was cited instead of the GAO. See how slick that is?
Reporting the GAO data would also have sunk the entire premise of the story. How does saving $20 billion of my tax money amount to a “pork barrel boondoggle”? The whole basis for Ross’s piece is flawed. On the other hand, if one wanted to take down a competitor a notch or two, it would be more helpful to associate them with a boondoggle than a way to save a ton of tax money.
The most glaring piece of negligence was the fact that Ross didn’t include a disclaimer in his piece. You know, the conflict-of-interest disclaimer that says, “General Electric is the parent company of this network’s competitor.” Simple journalistic integrity presumes such information would be provided to the viewer if for no other reason than to lay all the cards on the table and let the viewer decide whether those facts had anything to do with how the news was presented. Apparently, that was too heavy a lift for Brian Ross.
Candidly, I don’t know enough about jet engines to have any position one way or another on this issue, but I do know about journalism, drive-by reporting and how they’re served up to television viewers. If ABC wants to use its evening news product to fight a proxy war against a competitor, that’s fine. But they should at least be honest enough to let their viewers know what’s going on.






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Oh, my god! Do these guys have any idea the logistical and maintenance nightmare which would result from two different engines for the same aircraft, not to mention the difference performance figures for each which pilots would have to internalize?
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I was assuming they were building the same engine but that wouldn't square with SOP so Your criticism would be spot on. Like the author I know nothing about jet engines but i do know a bit about cars and a cleveland 351 and a winsor 351 are both ford motors both made at the same time but totally different longevity charactoristics
Seems a reasonable conclusion…. "What is in it for ABC to do a half handed hit piece on GE?" And the fact of the matter is that the internal conflict between ABC and NBC seems more that reason enough for the activity.
But there's still a big elephant in this room. What's the back story on the engines? Why is GE taking it's case to the people with a huge ad campaign? Mind you I have no great love for GE given all their other activities but it seems like journalism would be served by shedding more than just the first layer of the onion.
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Rule no. 1- pick the best available engine, and use it. Do NOT use 2 different engines.
Since when has ABC been an expert on anything? They can't even report the daily news correctly. Or at least not since I stopped watching them years ago.
There are pros and cons to picking two engines. One of the benefits of the GE/Rolls Royce engine is that it would probably make it easier to pitch the plane in the UK. Another benefit is that if a defect is found in one of the engines, not all of the planes would be grounded. Downsides of two designs include parts and maintenance issues. So a pragmatic case can be made either way, depending on what your priorities are.
Since the engine Rolls was designing, in part, was to be built in Indiana, we have heard a lot about this, it also helps to have a brother retired from the Air Force, a step-dad that retired as a Naval Aviator and I served a cruse on a carrier.
Neither engine meets the requirements for all the variants of the air craft. There is a short takeoff vertical landing (STOVL) versions for the Marines, a conventional takeoff and landing for the Air Force and a carrier takeoff and landing for the Navy and Marines all three variants have very different engine requirements and neither Prat and Whiteny or GE/Rolls engines can meet them. They try to do the same thing back in the 1960's with the F-4 Phantom II and had the same problems.
Many air craft end up having several different engines made for different variants and requirements.
What? Bias in the media? QUICK! SOMEONE CALL THE MEDIA!!
ABC = Absolutely Biased Crap
NBC = Nothing Beats Communism!
CBS = Completely Bull Sh!t
The BIG BAD NETWORKS are watched by 7% of the population! SEVEN PERCENT! .07! Losers…
well, i am not totally sure here. the gao used to be beyond question non biased. but it seems with the obamacare boondoggle, that has changed. now i am all for using multiple suppliers for things, specially in time of war. if you need lots of something during a war, two suppliers will be better than one. also if a sudden flaw is found down the road in one engine, then jets made with the other can still fly, while the problem is being solved. but most stories from the press always take the dems ideas, and report them as the way to go. tax cuts, reporters say what will be cut by cutting taxes. tax increases, the report is we all need to pay our fair share. unions strike, and always the company is the bad guy, never the unions.
Boycott GE…it is nothing but a hedgefund and manufactures NOTHING that really counts…….
Did ABC call $900 BILLION wasted as a "stimulus bill" PORK? No? ABC=NO Credibility – the one thing a "news" outfit needs.
In the old days when the Pentagon needed something like an engine, they would come up with a list of basic requirements for that piece of equipment and then have two or three manufacturers build a prototype and bid on the project. Now it seems that the Pentagon has one or two prototypes built even before the final mission requirments are determined. To make matters worse, the Pentagon decides to ADD new requirements and capabilities to the prototype during testing, which makes costs skyrocket because the manufacturer has to re-design the equipment in order to meet these new requirements. The Navy's Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) is a classic example of this. A ship that was supposed to cost $200 million each and is now costing over $500 million each, and climbing. And, with two prototypes of the ship already built, the Navy still doesn't know which ship it is going to put into production. This bidding process is wasting billions of dollars each year. It's not just a question of Pork at the Pentagon, it is inefficiency, bureaucratic bungling, and lack of accountability that wastes most of the money, regardless of the manufacturer.
People still watch the Big 3 networks? <gag>
Nice piece, spot-on analysis. You should change your nom de plume to "JunkJournalismMom" and write full time on the broadcast network news cess pool. You'll NEVER run out of material as long as the current news crews are on the scene. Bravo for a well-written report! Thank you.
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" it is inefficiency, bureaucratic bungling, and lack of accountability that wastes most of the money, regardless of the manufacturer"
A good description of the aerial refueling tanker contract.
[...] http://bigjournalism.com/junksciencemom/2010/05/30/abc-in-junk-science-proxy-dogfight-with-nbc/One of the benefits of the GE/Rolls Royce engine is that it would probably make it easier to pitch the plane in the UK. Another benefit is that if a defect is found in one of the engines, not all of the planes would be grounded. … the Navy and Marines all three variants have very different engine requirements and neither Prat and Whiteny or GE/Rolls engines can meet them. They try to do the same thing back in the 1960’s with cheap flights to london the F-4 Phantom II and had the same problems. … [...]
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Agreed. Different specs. are needed for each type of mission. Air Force is mainly involved with high altitude fighter interception, aerial defense, bombing, and some close air to ground support. Marine is more along the lines of close air to ground support, and the navy is all the preceding. It would appear that very different and specialized engines are needed to fulfill these various missions. Maybe an engine could be built to handle all missions, but unlikely.
Why would it be? If the engine is signficantly different for flying purposes, then it means the plane itself is going to be different, which would mean the plane will have signficant variantions and there will be different purposes and tasks for it. Somehow this sounds like shouting in the dark, to me. Logistical nightmare is when you do constant running changes in a single model of plane….and have part shortages or have to have multiple support systems for various generations of the "same" thing.
Agenda driven posting, again? The "best" engine may very well be 2 or even 3 different ones, if there's variations of it.
A pretty good description of everything government does!
That's if the engine is *significantly* different. But if it's
almost-but-not-quite the same, then it's going to equip the 'same'
aircraft but behave differently. Ordinarily when an aircraft model
undergoes an engine upgrade, the pilots have to go through familiarization
training all over again.
And two different engines in the same squadron- a maintenance officer's
nightmare. If you send 'em to different squadrons, then you've just
screwed up the group commander's materiel flexibility.
I think a point you're missing here is that in military operations,
equipment commonality is vital. That's why NATO armies all use the same
ammo, and for that matter why the F-35 is a *Joint* Strike Fighter, as in
having one common airframe for the Air Force, Navy and Marines.
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Sounds like a logistical clusterf*ck in progress. Sometimes savings up front hide the true costs down the line. I'm still peeved that they canceled the F-22. Right when just about every other major power is building their own fifth-generation fighters we scrap the best fighter in the world.
That was signed into law February of 2009. Right now we're on the cusp of June 2010, and still we've got a shitty economy despite billions in stimulus. Not to mention that we're probably headed for another crash, thanks to the Euro crisis.
Funny thing is that I'm noticing a lot of passive-aggressive anger bubbling to the surface, directed at Obama from his press cheerleaders. Their messiah is not delivering on his promised awesomeness, and though they're not going to say anything particularly damaging about him, they're not happy.
Wait, a congressional push to get GE into a lucrative defense contract? The Immelt/Obama/Democrat alliance has to be one of the most corrupt pairings of giant corporation and big government ever. It's staggering just how blatant it's gotten. We've got GE profiting left and right from wasted "Green jobs" subsidies, and Immelt himself serving as an adviser to the president.
Immelt is the ultimate anti-capitalist, a man who ran his company into the ground and now is repairing the damage through the spending power of big government.
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How can they explain having 2 vendors would save 20 billion dollars? The cost of materials and labor is 20 billion lower? Having two complete lines of spare parts, special tools and mechanic training to me proves 2 vendors cause costs to go up.
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Depends. Do both engines meet a specific set of criteria? If they do the difference in engines may be no more noticeable than they are from two engines from the same company. We need more info on the performance standards applied/met and input from the end-users…Do they feel a difference or not? That's what counts.
Commonality is defined by meeting a standard. The question is – do pilots know/feel a difference between the two engines. If not, two suppliers are just fine. Ask the end-user, simple enough…
I'm not sure about the 20b number but having several production resources can save money. Of course the lines must be standardized – same tools, same spare parts, same training standards, etc. If the lines are set up to produce multiple end products then it can be advantageous to have multiple lines able to react quickly to change in required output.
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What you're overlooking is that engines need parts – lots of them in
intensive operations- and moreover the Air Force isn't like American
Airlines with a big permanent maintenance facility to send 'em to. When
the AF (or Marines) go to war, they have to pack up everything and take it
with them to Bumfuckistan; and then additional materiel needed (because it
gets used up, fast) has to be flown or shipped from CONUS (and that
transport capacity is limited).
You want to double the logistical load by having two complete parts
catalogs? Not to mention having to train your mechanics on two different
engines?
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An excellent acquisition considering the alternatives.
Unfortunately or Fortunately depending on your opinion, the F-35 JSF is an international project. Early on two engines with interchangeable hook up/plug and play were part of the design. It says this in the F-35 JSF memorandum of agreement (MOU) (updated again on Dec 2009) signed by all JSF partner nations.
"6.2.2 The Participants may designate the F135, the F136, or both in their PPRs in such quantities and in accordance with such delivery schedules as they require."
Which makes one wonder; if Gates is so hot under the collar; why didn't he just have the memorandum of agreement changed? Answer he can't and most news agencies don't have a clue about the contents of the MOU (which can be found in the downloads section of jsf.mil ) The MOU is the baseline for ANY discussion on the two engine issue for the F-35.
Given that the F-35 program is in such development trouble (way behind on test flights no matter the marketing hype), The two engine debate may solve itself. Who wants to pay for 2 different engine vendors if only a few hundred mistake jets get made that cost more than the F-22 at half the performance?
GE the corporation who is selling us all down the river for profit. Fact is GE is in bed with the administration over this whole cap and trade fiasco. I think the Pentagon is fully capable of choosing the engine they prefer. Boycott GE, they have no interest in competing fairly. Their formula for success is buddy up to the administration and throw a few hundred million around in hopes of getting billions in contracts unfairly steered in their direction.
The big question,in my mind, is what is G.E. doing owning a news organization. I am for free enterprise, but something is wrong with this picture. We must reject this type of collusion in making the news in the market place.
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Honesty? Truthful journalism? From the MSM? Bwah hahahahahahaha! *snort* hahahahahaha.
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