First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

If Gandhi got it right, the Tea Party is on the verge of a major victory. The latest log of evidence tossed on this fire is the Tea Party Crashers, and their blatant efforts to squelch free speech.
Let’s review the charges from the Left against the Tea Party people:
- Racism
- Intolerance
- Ignorance
- Disingenuousness
- And Possibly Having Cooties
Instinctively, the MSM jumped on the claims of racism and intolerance when they rushed to judgment and declared the Tea Partiers guilty of screaming racial epithets and spitting at black members of Congress as they walked through a group of protesters. (The Capital Police have yet to arrest a single person, and not one legitimate claim has been filed in Andrew $100,000 challenge.)
The Tea Party supporters were all labeled as ignorant, racist rednecks, despite the fact that their arguments were rooted in the Constitution. As we learned this week, some of our elected officials know much less about the document they are supposed to uphold and defend, Illinois Congressman Phil Hare for example.
Just a month ago the Coffee Party tried to launch as a response to the Tea Party movement. Armed with a Facebook page and support from CNN and MSNBC and the New York Times, Annabel Park — who backed Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign and is a contributor to the United For Obama channel on YouTube — started her party.
I have heard almost nothing about the Coffee Party since. Perhaps they served decaf?
After almost a year of trying, the Left was incapable of finding solid examples to back up these charges and, faced with Tea Parties gaining momentum and broad acceptance across the country, they have decided to take matters into their own hands and manufacture racism, intolerance, ignorance and possibly cooties! (Perhaps this is the increase in American manufacturing that the President mentioned in the recent State of the Union address?)
Enter the Tea Party Crashers.
Their website says it all. The people who preach acceptance and tolerance, want nothing more than to silence and besmirch those with a different opinion. The Irony Lamp is burning brightly tonight my friend, illuminating what some might call the Full Alinsky.

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has accused the Tea Parties of being an “Astroturf” movement, basically calling them disingenuous and fake. Now, some of her ardent supporters are openly planning on pretending to be part of this movement, just to be able to destroy the credibility of the people who hope to express their feelings to the people who represent them.
IMHO — the Tea Party crew should flood their representatives with demands that these haters of free speech, these Tea Party Crashers, be told to support free speech and engage in a dialogue with those who have different opinions. I would also suggest that they remind the Speaker of her own words from 2006:
There’s nothing more articulate, more eloquent to a member of Congress than the voice of his or her own constituent.
It’s already being heard — in the declining circulations of major liberal newspapers, and the cratering ratings of the broadcast news operations and the leftist cable channels. And it will definitely be heard this coming November.






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Free speech is much like the free market — you can make it illegal, but you can only stop it with mass murder.
Nothing like being ignored.
It's a lot like a boomerang.
They will wonder what happened come November.
And I'm sure it will still be Bush's fault, according to dear leader and the dems.
Coffee Party? Tea Party Crashers? I absolutely support Gay Pride parades across the country. Free speech baby.
But when Metrosexuals talk about infiltration let me give them a little lesson about how water works. If the precipitation rate exceeds the infiltration rate then that is what we call runoff. When Progressive Metrosexuals gather think of it as the world's biggest sponge. All of the crap they spew to each other gets absorbed because the precipitation comes in the form of vapors. The sponge can handle endless amounts of Progressive Metrosexual Vapor.
But when Metrosexuals clash with tea party movers the precipitation is more like hail and the tea party is a hard as concrete. You're pathetic agenda will just runoff because that is what we do with nonsense. It bounces off our eardrums and falls to the floor.
I know they don't teach that in indoctrination camp but stay tuned little boys and girls we'll get you up to speed.
I've heard Tea Party news all day, from CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS. None of it said anything about rednecks or racism, just covered the rallies and interviewed some of the people involved. The only talk radio stations are non-stop right wingers all the time. What OTHER main stream media are you talking about?
We're getting around to that, HPJ.
Psychotically yours,
Mao Say Dung
I like that they subtitled the Korean chick.
After some polls came out last week and MSM say the demograpics on the avg Tea Party participant along with the extreme nosedive in the viewership and loss of advertising revenue after a full year they are curbing their tongue today? Too little and too late. MSM and NYT can go down the toilet and will not be missed. They blew it when they were busy electing the not so great one. The Tea Party folks never watch the alphabet soup you mentioned for a reason of history known as LAME STREAM MEDIA.
The American Left doesn't have the balls to do that, they will pay mercenaries to do the dirty work, though. Can't get those manicured hands dirty.
I was with THOUSANDS of people in Albuquerque at the TEA…and saw only six cars with people whose debate skills were limited to middle finger salutes…which were met with even more smiles, waves, and cheering…
Despite my usual optimism…I used to worry…a LOT…
They, (the Left), are out of space, out of ideas, and almost, not quite, but almost completely out of time…I face the new day now with quiet but unshakable resolve…
"We will Remember in November…"
Now there's a complete flip flop. Last month the TEA partiers were the vulgar homosexual termed 'teabaggers', 'too stupid' to understand things, 'white trash'…this month they are 'educated' and 'wealthier' than the 'average'.?!! Elections are coming and CNN and MSNBC don't have viewers to watch their propaganda…trying to be 'nice' to the TEA partiers, now after a year full of hatred, divisive, derision, name calling, and outright insults, just isn't going to cut it. We Remember, and we Vote.
I went to the Tea Party rally today and there was a small group of anti-Tea Party protesters there. They were respectful and stayed about 75 yards away! Everything was peaceful and respectful! They were ALL white, a story you'll NEVER see in the news! ALL of them! They consisted of about 20 young college-age people who were dressed in very bizarre clothes. I don't even know how to describe them. Their credibility was undermined by their extreme garb. It was just downright strange. The Tea Party attendees, in contrast, were diverse, but just average-looking Americans.
I saw a couple of the lefties run over and peacefully traverse the Tea Party crowd. They stood out by their bizarre clothing. Most Tea Party people didn't know who they were. If I had known at the time, I would have taken a picture of them to post online, so that people could see them and tell me what their style of dress is called.
They were wearing black boots and skin-tight clothing. Their pants were pulled down so that their underwear showed. Some also had very strange-looking hats that reminded me of very loose, bagging, black versions of the Cat-in-the-hat, but they were pulled down over their heads and ears. I don't know what that dress style is called, but I call it "bizarre" and "gauche"!
The truth will always prevail. It always does. The left can spin and twist and do what they need to, but the truth will always prevail.
"Fairness" Doctrine, anyone?
Net "Neutrality"?
Oh, yeah — suppression, then oppression. I won't be a bit surprised if it happens.
Truly, I hope Dear Leader has more respect for our Constitution than that, but it's looking doubtful.
They've got union thugs, who are convinced they're oh-so-tough.
Maybe they are. I guess we'll see if and when they're unleashed upon us.
Let me try to untangle your interesting turns-of-phrase. Progressive Metrosexuals can absorb each other's crap, but they can't handle the tea party's crap? Aside from your interesting meteorology lesson, you didn't really say anything that wasn't already painfully obvious.
Honestly, I don't even completely understand what side you're on. When you say "You're pathetic agenda," are you talking about the pathetic agenda of a tea partier or a Progressive Metrosexual? But I think I have you figured out! You're more than willing to capitalize "Progressive Metrosexual," but "tea party" gets the lower-case.
Sigh… I had a fleeting hope you might have been a Tea Partier – you had the beginnings of a really good joke about metrosexuals farting into sponges.
Quik Moby
So the old media had stopped ridiculing the small govt people? Fat chance.
Tea partyers are not about free speech. They carry guns and threaten everyone who holds a sign against them.
The place for them: Zimbabwe
You made the claim now produce the evidence.
Well look, the likes of CNN and MSNBC are about out of steam playing the leftist schtick. They saw the boost that Fox got last go around so they want to climb on board. Has nothing to do with politics. This is the Suits trying to save their asses before the stockholders kick their butts.
Follow the money.
We have another tea party here in FL tomorrow (Fri.) in Vero Beach, where Marco Rubio is our keynote speaker at the stadium where the LA Dodgers used to spend their spring training: RUBIO at DODGERTOWN!
Maybe it'll make the news?
Please take a minute to watch this man warn African-Americans about Obama, the "long-legged mac daddy."
http://la-gun.com/manning/
We have another tea party here in FL tomorrow (Fri.) in Vero Beach, where Marco Rubio is our keynote speaker at the stadium where the LA Dodgers used to spend their spring training: RUBIO at DODGERTOWN!
Maybe it'll make the news?
Please take a minute to watch this man warn African-Americans about Obama, the "long-legged mac daddy."
http://la-gun.com/manning/
Just google it!
http://www.examiner.com/x-2581-St-Louis-Gun-Right...
The more we respond in kind to the propagandists in the Lamestream Media the better. Do unto them as they have done unto us. Don't just ignore them, SHUN them. To be negated is the greatest insult to the elitist, ego-driven.
As Glenn Beck reminds of Gandhi "Use truth as your anvil, nonviolence as your hammer and anything that does not stand the test when it is brought to the anvil of truth and hammered with nonviolence, reject it…."
Mark their emails as the "spam" it is. Don't waste your breath taking their polls; they are skewed to their narrative not yours plus they turn around sell this crap as "truth" to your detriment. NEVER tune-in to any station or click-on any web site you feel is a "Progressive water carrier", corrupt or just plain inept. This only benefits them by generating advertising dollars while helping them maintain the facade of validity – again to your detriment. Should you be personally confronted by one of their minions, slowly turn and walk away as if they don't exist, because in YOUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE, they don't!
Remember a year ago at one of original Tea Parties, when that very unprofessional CNN "reporter"/agitator made a complete ass of herself. (Should she have been fired? – Yes. Was she? – No. She didn't find CNN "haters" but she sure as hell created some while showing CNN for the totally bogus jerks they are.)
Now imagine if you will, the same scenario. Only this time people look through her, NOT at her, completely ignoring her existence. And you can't be accused of being rude to someone if they don't exist… She would have been left agape, sputtering and choking on her own vitriol on live TV. Turn about is far play & would this go viral or what!!
Next imagine the infamous Pelosi/Congressional Black Caucus March, trying to bait/bully a peaceful crowd of American citizens into some type infraction. Getting no takers, they traded in any shred of decency they had left, revealing themselves to be the bigoted racists THEY ARE, by falsely accusing others using racial epithets & spitting on one member.
Now imagine instead, this self-important, elitist group of weasels on their little "I'll show you who's who" procession being met with backs being turned, and a low, slow refrain (almost a whisper) of "SHAME, SHAME". (In your mind's eye, visualize something like an enactment of "The Wave" in a large stadium). It would prove their true impotence in comparison their opposition while robbing them of the ability bare false witness and showing their disdain for us is NOTHING compared ours for them!!
Like the old adage – "Don't bother tickling somebody who ain't ticklish"
So, the hell with them all.
We are the eyes and ears.
And we hold the purse strings!!
Collectively, WE NOT THEM hold the POWER……NEVER FORGET IT!!!
Wow. He might abhor Barry & his Maoist Minions even more than we do. Pray that the riots & blood shed he predicts can be averted and Barry, et al, can be put on trial, not on ice!
Oh, you were being facetious.
Zimbabwe,eh?
Research 'irony' youngster.
I mean there are so many countries without free speech – why not just go there? It would be quicker.
The only way they can get their message out is to lie.
you are all missing the point.
a new party should stand in defense without parameters
when u introduce politics – party preferences – presendtial invectives –
the tea party becomes a mock party
its a nice idea – but clearly from reading these posts and following media and manipulation of what could be an inspiring peoples movement
tea party will fail as well
Well, if conservatives win, the chinese will have a field day with all the curropt US bankers!
Every tax protest in US history…worked. The taxes got repealed in every case.
That includes the tax protest that started the US.
-Tom
As for your characterization of conservatives as "humbug fat cats," perhaps you should review the personal net worth of every member of congress. You'll find that the Dim-bulb-o-crats are the ones with the large personal fortunes.
As for your pushing the net neutrality scam, please tell me how the Internet is currently broken. If you can't tell me how it's broken, you won't convince me to let Dear Leader & Minions fix it.
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You mean not counting seven house McCain or 12 Million Dollar Speaking fees palin…
2 years ago, Comcast and att slowed down web sites they chose to so people couldn't see them. Since they were only providers in the area, that meant they were denying people right to read whatever they wanted.
Net neutrality means internet connection providers cannot preferentially slow down web sites they choose to slow down.
Comcast changed the download speed for heavy users, those who were transferring giant files (example: full-length movies from a file-sharing enterprise). They did this to conserve resources and prevent service slowdowns or the rest of us who don't hog resources.
Since then, they haven't slowed down anyone's service.
Net neutrality means the government will be (finally, praise Jesus) able to tax and generally regulate the internet, including the regulation of content.
Another naked power grab by the naked power grabbers on your side of the fence.
Screw the government. Screw anyone who wants the government's thumb on my neck.
I'm a tea partier. Aren't you afraid of us? How did you get up the nerve to come here and make your remarks?
Hmmm, maybe you're just lying again. You don't look all that scared to me.
The biggest and fastest guns belong to the government. Does that suit your innate "sense of fairness"?
"The biggest and fastest guns belong to the government. Does that suit your innate "sense of fairness"?"
No I think we should all carry nukes in our pockets. Yeah right!
Not just that. They slowed traffic from some news sites.
They stopped because FCC ordered them to – not because they wanted to.
Internet is tax free because congress passed tax free internet law. Has nothing to do with net neutrality. Get your facts straight.
I think the government should hire a Compensation Czar, to decide when and if people are making too much money. That's the only "fair" way to determine how much income someone "deserves."
Wait, they've already done that. Dear Leader actually was ahead of the curve on this one.
Praise be to Dear Leader.
Actually, the founders of the U.S. government had in mind a very similar concept to "…nukes in our pockets."
At the time, any particular armament was available to citizen and government alike. That happens to be no longer true, and I don't lament the fact. It's the way it is.
My point is this: The only entity that can legally use force, even when there is no imminent danger to its existence, is the government. Perhaps we should be careful to restrain such an entity.
Maybe they should have a law that says Highest cant be more than 25 times median compensation, and 100 times lowest compensation.
That way, if lowest is paid $10.hr (20k/year) the highest can still get 2 million – but not 200 million. I dont care who you are or what board you sit on, you are not a million times more productive than an ordinary worker. Generally if you sit on a board, you are less productive – and I know many who sit on boards.
You're just not used to hearing the other side. It can be shocking when you're as unaccustomed to hearing it as you seem to be, based on that statement. Net "neutrality" is not what what the goal is. I suppose you think we now have neutrality in the press, too. Clueless tool.
If you agree with the left bias, you certainly can't be expected to be smart enough to notice it in the reports you are watching.
You forgot that they can't spell, have sex with their siblings, hate blacks, etc. You know, the usual template for those who run around screaming "I can't feel my brain!, I can't feel my brain!" You're so trite as to be absolutely predictable and boring.
It's not a political party. It's a movement to educate and make a change by supporting candidates with similar ideas.
You are missing the point.
Not necessarily….the socialists are very close to achieving their objective here in the US in concert with the MSM…..
Even though the folks have awakened, the system may be sufficiently rigged to assure socialism wins out….
Congratulations to the Tea Party. Contrast the good behavior of the Tea Party with the Arrogance and Condensention of the Left.
Young people can be so quaint!
See there?
You've just expressed, in a nutshell, the contempt with with you view the free market.
I couldn't have said it any better. It's ever so much nicer when you convict yourself. The worst part? You don't even feel any shame over your crime.
You know many who sit on boards? That tells me you're a construction laborer, who often will sit on a 2" X 12" board to eat your sack lunch. Good for you. You're salt of the earth, well, except for your envy of those who've actually achieved something in life.
The market will always survive. Even when your heroes of the Russian Revolution were murdering millions of Soviet citizens, in one fit of pique after another, the market survived. The cost of a loaf of bread rose and fell with supply and demand. The market lived during the worst days of the Soviet Union, but you, MR. SHlT-FOR-BRAINS, have a plan to defeat it here and now, in 21st century America.
Good luck with that.
Net Neutrality is "enforced speech" not Free Speech. Free Speech is what it is. It is not something that needs to be "regulated" to level-off at someone's idea of 'neutral." How is that Free?
The world of free-thinking will go in whatever direction free-thinking drives it.
CBS was doing quite a bit of yakking about their poll with the NY Times. They segregated out those who identified with the Tea Parties, the started asking them questions with a stereotypical slant to them such as "is there a gun in your house?" or " have you ever or will you ever buy gold or silver?". They just wanted to try to label those involved as gun toting, Bible clutching, white men who were likely as not going to be racist because it fits the media created stereotype.
Those six cars were part of a motorcade of leftist diplomats on their way to negotiate with the enemy. Aren't they good at it?
Good point but note the lack of coverage BEFORE ObamaCare passed. MSM figures it is safe now to give coverage-to completely ignore it or to continue to smear it would make them look totaly absurd. Also none of the stories before ObamaCare and very few after ever give any notion of ths size of the demonstrations or the movement itself. Crowd estimates are always suspect, but some aknowledgement of the size of this movement is certainly news. Also national news focuses on demonstrations in Washington, and local news on local events. No mention of just how many protests occured across the country.
Grammar?
You just jumped from free press to free speech. Your arguments all fail because they are based on false premises. A telecom company can restrict anything it wants since it owns that bandwidth. It is clearly false that a company restricting file-sharing websites is in any kind of free-speech violation since file-sharing is theft. Is putting a lock on your front door a free speech violation? And, it will not be a monopoly for long if the population truly wants to read the news sites you mentioned.
Good post Fred. Yes we do and yes we will.
On that note…will we vote smart? I'm growing concerned here in AZ. The Tea Party is hell bent to dump McCain. Granted, he's no Libertarian, but their newbie candidate, Deakin, well intentioned as they come, heartfelt patriot, good man, but ZERO experience even at the state political level is NOT a seriously viable choice.
I fear this is the case in many states. Experienced politicians with some party support and financial backing are being ignored in favor of folks who just want to do the right thing but have NO experience in gov't and they are NOT going to be able to effectively legislate. They won't even have a caucus! And neither Repubs nor Dems will let them in.
How will electing novices help us?
I have said for months in 2010 we may have to hold our noses, hit the R button to gain blocking power, and then on a case by case basis replace RINOS with candidates from state legislatures….people who at least know how to find their parking space and offices, know someone on the hill, have some support to mentor them in the process of how to get stuff done.
My worst fear is that naive Tea Party voters will believe it's as simple as supporting Joe the Plumber and in doing that that will split their votes all over the map, leaving the Dem with the only clear majority. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but the VAST MAJORITY of voters in every state are just not going to support some guy with no money, no party, no experience, and no campaign machine who at best are novices at this game.
Dems have a war chest from hell, $80M bucks and who know how much in missing TARP and Stimulus money, ACORN in new clothes, and Amnestied Illegals. How do folks realistically see this playing out?
The D with all the money, the party machine, ACORN, SEIU and Obama
the R with limited money but a party machine, and experience
vs
Joe the Plumber with business cards printed on his home computer, some hand made signs, one run of bumper stickers, and ZERO IDEA OF HOW CONGRESS REALLY WORKS?
I'll say it again. Split our vote and the Dem wins. Hold our nose, vote for the R and let him know this is a temporary stay of execution based on his votes between 2010 and 2012.
This isn't a Walt Disney, "little guy wins" story. This is real and if we screw this election up we won't need to worry about 2012 elections. They won't happen.
Sux but we either get smart or kiss this country as we know it goodbye.
Outstanding! I have watched wise parents react to the tantrums of the children by ignoring them. One the child realises he is being ignored the tantrums stop, if the parent continues to ignor the malcontent, the child pleads for attention further ignoring produces the expected "I'm sorry mommy/daddy". Time to treat these Malcontents with silence, turn your backs and softly repeat Shame on you.
EXACTLY RIGHT, hempstead,
If anyone doubts how difficult this fight will be I invite you to take a quick look at this chart. Just study it for one minute to see how DESPITE the Constitution, DESPITE congress, and DESPITE the will of the American majority, these things ARE ALREADY DONE DEALS! LAW OF THE LAND! You will be surprised and sickened. And it's happening right under our noses.
http://americansforprosperity.org/obamachart.php
Uh…no, not really…
I was braced for a substantive counter-demonstration…lots of shouting and puffery…and what did I get..?
Two 60's flower power matriarchs with a sign that says, "I (heart) my Gov't Healthcare", that spent as much time trying to hold up their signs and stay out of traffic as they wandered around…the rest was spent avoiding tripping over their braless "saggies"…
Granted, they have more time on their hands to go vote…but seriously, we turn up the diseases covered under "medical marijuana", those two would be out stoned or raiding convenience stores for munchies…
Exactly. If conservatives want free speech, why are they against net neutrality???
Bunch of humbug fat cats
Check out the BIASED "REPORTING" at CNN. com
"Letting disgruntled citizens vent is important to national security, experts say, but some messages emanating from angry Americans in recent weeks have pressed the boundaries of free speech."
Right there on the "front page". http://www.cnn.com
I voted for Mccain and I understand your concerns but the problem here is not just the past year and a half, the problem are the past 20 30 years of political behavior, and we need a change from that, we really do need it, and McCain simply is part of that establishment i would not call him a RINO, but he's very close to it, the next generation of conservatives really needs to be conservative to the core, because what is happening now will need to be fought through strong conservative values, not middle of the road ideas, the slant of this administration is so to the left that the middle ground today is still left of center.
I took a look at this chart yesterday and it is absolutely scary, I find it immoral that this information needs to be sought out in quasi obscure websites or simply conservative locations, this administration has waged a full blown war against our institutions, our founding documents and most fundamental Ideals.
Change was promised but this isn't change this is USURPATION!!!!
The way I figure it, we're at the FINAL stage in the narrative: "First they ignore you" — Done last year, when virtually NO media gave Tea Parties any attention. "Then they ridicule you" — Remember "racist, redneck, teabaggers" — Anderson Cooper of CNN coined that term. "Then they fight you" — Just recently when the bogus charges of the N-word being shouted at the CBC in Washington during the Obamacare protests– (despite the fact that NO VIDEO of that happening keeps Andrew B. the proud owner, still of his $100,000 offer). "Then you win". — Our local MSM media covered the Tea Party in Madison like NEVER before. Seems to me that we're WINNING THIS ARGUMENT — FINALLY.__Hat Tip to Andrew Breitbart, who took us quickly from the "fight you" stage to the "winning" stage. When he offered that $100,000. for proof of racism, and NO PROOF WAS GIVEN, it seems that, that argument went NOWHERE.__This man should get a Pulitzer for influencing the narrative so effectively!____
Gandhi, the "progressive" racist with a bowel fixation who "tested" himself by sleeping naked with teenage nieces and other women?
Who wants to win if it means using him as an icon?
I was at a Tea Party in New Jersey yesterday. The only goofballs I saw were some LaRouche Douche supporters far removed from the Tea Party folks.
Jason Levin said he had 66 people ready to disrupt the Tea Parties. So homeboy basically rallied .8 people for every tea party rally in America yesterday. Wow.
The left better face the fact that the momentum is going in a conservative direction and there is not much they can do to stop it.
Yep, McCain married into money, Sara works for hers, and Al Gore "made up" global warming, and who is making the money lying to the Americans? Well, that would be Al Gore in this particular scenario…………..there are many more, true Americans know all of this…………….
Oh jesus. I saw the ghandi quote and I thought I was gonna see Fursicution Fox. Wow that picture is getting annoying >.>
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Thank you for pointing that out. Gandhi's whole nonviolent protest worked because the British Empire was a very liberal empire at heart, and not a ruthless thugocracy like Russia or the Second and Third Reichs. Hell, even the French were much more ruthless in their treatment of colonial subjects.
The fact was, Gandhi caught the British Empire after it had bankrupted itself helping us defeat Japan and Nazi Germany, after it had trained a middle-class of native Indians to run their own country, and after they had created a several million man Indian army to protect India from the Japanese invasion from Burma, thus giving the Indians the martial expertise they needed to be independent. The stars could not have favored Gandhi's cause more at that moment.
No they aren't. That is nothing but cult of personality nonsense.
The British Empire defeated the British Empire during its worldwide decline in India. At any point in time they could have, to paraphrase, "terminated Gandhi's entire movement, terminated . . . with extreme prejudice". They chose not to. In another place, with a more ruthless ruler, Gandhi would have achieved absolutely nothing, as so many non-violent protesters did in the Soviet Union, as they are achieving in Iran.
What Gandhi really "achieved" in India was the partition with Pakistan, the brutality of the initial population exchange, the brutality of the several wars, the brutality of the civil war in Pakistan that established Bangladesh, and the Islamist threat in the region today. Likewise for oppressive government, compare and contrast British colonial rule to what Pakistan has "enjoyed" since becoming "free".
And all because the British let themselves become as enamored of his image as the press was. You know, the same way the press is enamored of our precious little cult of personality today.
Premier icon indeed.
Free speech Good. Better is understanding that persons, e.g "Democratic" Party of 20th century …and its agents: Kennedys, Carter, Clintons, ~Obama and his troops Pelosi and Reid , et al play hard ball politics.. They – ALL LAWYERS – believe the jury of ordinary Americans are not their peers, not intelligent or subtle enough. That jury can be easily gulled ,as they have been by lackeys and shills the Major Media and the "elite" universities AND their own "representatives" including some "Republicans" in Congress, during the past 40 – 50 years.They marched uinder the banner of fairness and equality. STRANGELY, lawyers, some even Constitutional "experts" did not appear to understand that fairness and equality are THE BEDROCK of the US based on the Constitution with its Bill of Rights: THE LAW of the USA (AND as lawyers it was THEIR DUTY to see THAT LAW applied in its intent ). The ultimate arbiter of that Law is the –. READ the first words of that document. and you'll understand WHO "owns" the USA, who really is the ruler.. IT IS NOT ANY ELITE, with or without degrees from universities – elite or common, with or without subtlety, or with or without great wealth. .. ALL — ALL the agents of the US Government: Legislators, Judges, and Executive are the "representatives" of the People, and NOT free agents, as are the Members of Parliament in Great Britain. AND THAT IS — the ownership of the nation and its direction , methods and goals – the AMERICAN PARTICULARITY, which these present "public servants" are disenfranchising.. Power to the People is a line for a rock song. but is meaningless in a country based on the Constitution of the USA which includes the power of the people as essence of that nationl.
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The scary thing is, that barely scratches the surface of everything that went on back then.
The French definitely would have just gotten rid of Gandhi, shot him mostly likely, maybe sent him to Devil's Island, or had an "accident" in a local prison. Look at their record in Algeria and Indochina for that.
There was a considerable amount of violence connected to the "non-violent" protests that ended British colonial rule, not to mention the Indian National Army that fought for the Japanese.
And ultimately Gandhi himself was simply not that pleasant a person.
Cults of personality are bad, even when they are focused on someone supposedly "benevolent". Just look at JFK, RFK, and good old Teddy.
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