If there’s one thing the Snowpocalypse-hastened collapse of the Great Global Warming Hoax has shown us, among other things, it’s that Mark Steyn, as usual, was right all along, and “Anthropogenic Global Warming” — ridiculous on its face, as anyone who knows history could have said, and did — was as much a journalistic scandal as a scientific one. Writes Chris Wood at the Canadian Journalism Project:
In a twist on the old legal saw, it is the equivalent of failing to shout fire in a crowded theater that is slowly filling with deadly fumes.
To pass it off as journalism is professional negligence.
Now comes this challenge to the somnolent, Sarah-Palin obsessed American media:
If The Tree of Global Warming Fell In The Living Rooms of The American Press And No One Reported It Would It Make A Sound?
An open request to the British Press. In addition to absolutely kicking the arse of your counterparts in the American unofficially state-run media on the subject of so-called “climate change” – your next story should be about how and why they have ignored this story completely.
Ya think?
In the meantime, get your hardly-even-used carbon offsets here. And your bridges, too.
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It's clear to anyone with a working brain and ability to read the mammoth evidence this global warming hysteria is a massive scandal, yet the media is silent.
Meanwhile, the government continues to move forward with all sorts of ways to police us in the name of climate change.
Cathy Zoi of Obama admin say she wants swat teams to go into homes & businesses (ie the green police) http://tinyurl.com/ycuaxe2
And just I drove by an electronic banner stating: Energy Auditor training http://tinyurl.com/yg4g48k So 8 billion's gone to this extreme eco crap? All based on fraudulent climate science!
Hello, mainstream media! Anyone awake out there?!
Proudly a denialist since 1978, when Leonard Nimoy told me, on In Search Of… The Coming Ice Age that Texas was due for, "New England style winters."
It was BS when they thought we'd freeze, and it's BS when they say we'll boil.
Michael, I believe it was a money grab…and the leftist media was in on it.
In order to "redistribute wealth", in a worldwide leftist scam…Charles Krauthammer got it almost fully. They simply used the "green guilt" to try to pick the pockets of Western nations, most especially America.
And came within a hair's breadth of pulling it off.
In conjunction with the "give unto seizures" grab of the auto industry, all the rest of the energy industry, the banking industry, the health care industry…this was about as full a seizure of this land of ours ever attempted.
Scott Brown's election may have saved more than just a seat in Massachusetts. Combined with taking our sworn enemies and turning them into petty offense criminals…we were on the brink of a total stealth grab of our nation…from which we may have never recovered. Still not out of the woods, yet.
You don't have to be a climate expert to know that when someone keeps changing their story, they're probably lying to you.
I know enough about science to know that the debate is always open to new data and theories. When somebody tells you the science is "settled" and the "debate is over", that's not science, it's dogma.
Oh so because of a couple of fluctuations of cold weather….. and a couple of hacks taken illegally from some poor guys email and taken out of context Global Warming is Faaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkeeee?
you nubs have no understanding of Science, ITS NOT MENT TO FIT Republican world view…. its simply shows how the world itself works…
A massive transfer of Western wealth to the U.N. and on down the line may have been averted.
If this were a boxing match – the "Warmers" would be doubled up, lying down on the mat with the Truth being motioned to the nuetral corner.
The lies, the false data, the cover ups, the raw greed – it's all being exposed.
I said it earlier – I'd be happy to see Al Gore reduced to a washed up politician, a middle class retired American –
the EXACT people he was trying SO HARD to harm.
Older second car pulled over by the river bank, sitting on an ice chest, sipping on a Bud, bobber lazily floating in the calm water – memories of his limos and Gulfstream and 110' houseboat a lond lost 'misty colored memory'.
Bastard.
But, is MENT to fit glorious Soviet worldview, comrade.
Da!
You might want to consider getting a refund on all that kollidge edukashun you received. Didn't work.
Keep your head up your ass, the "Warmer Denial" club is renting a room at the local YMCA.
Bring your own folding chair. They only have three and six of you liars have "registered" to attend.
"If The Tree of Global Warming Fell In The Living Rooms of The American Press And No One Reported It Would It Make A Sound?"
Not in their living rooms, but it would in Andrew Breitbarts!
You're not paying attention, you dunce. There's a bit more than that going on. Try clicking some of the links in the story.
The debate is over. It's settled. Stop crying.
Communism is Dead, be constructive not PARANOID beyond reason.
Jail would be nice….but we know that ain't gonna happen! But there is a greater Judge coming, pity to be him…..
You guys don’t care about science just yourself…. and yer paranoid world view. You've already made up yer minds and want to create a new dark age. So much for free speech and "constructive" debate.
You can see the mindset when the comrade cites " a couple of hacks taken illegally from some poor guys email and taken out of context".
Like the issue is HOW the evidence was obtained not WHAT it contains – and is now being corroborated.
The ocean water is splashing up against Man-Bear-Pig's "Fantasy Fairy Land Sand Castle" and it's washing away.
Watching our Nations fourth estate, our watch dogs, sink their teeth into this colossal collapse of the International Pack of Climate Crooks is just gonna be great.
I don't see any yet but I'm pretty sure when i wake up this will plastered everywhere, like ACORN maybe.
heh, heh……..
Paranoid. Now there is an interesting topic.
I think you might want to take a look at the purveyors of the scam you so believe in and consider who is driving the Starship Paranoid.
Go ahead and Bing it. I'll wait.
I would rather see someone like Breitbart find out the truth and show that Al Gore knew he was lying which makes him lose millions of dollars before he has to apologize for his lying to Americans then I would like to see them find something very illegal he did to scam money so he could go to prison. Screw the river banks and dreaming. I want him behind bars.
So, are you saying the polar bears are in danger?
Well that would be my ultimate dream – believe me – but in reality – he'll skate –
so being forced to be a "regular guy" would be like torture for his fat ass.
Pumping his own gas – getting the shopping cart with the f-ed up wheel. Getting caught in the rain without an umbrella – no Secret Service guy whipping one out and POP – it's just there.
Looking at his trailer trash waste high lawn -then yanking the cord on his old mower, and *snap* cord breaks.
Fixing the garbage disposal – Tipper in curlers – b*tching about – something – he's tuned her out.
Getting a flat on the way to town – can't find his tire iron – cell phone battery dead…
walking along in the rain hands in pockets…
Would that be the grim reaper possibly?
Now that would "Global Warm" his ass. Gore in Hell – serving as Satan's ash tray holder…
Satan -"Stop moving around Al !"
Gore -"Sorry my Leige – my knees hurt"
Satan – "You want something to else hurt Al?"
Gore – "No -um – no please, my Leige I'll be still"
Satan – "How 'bout the Global Warming down here, Al?"
Gore – "I was just, er trying to scam the world my Leige – I thought you'd 'be on my side'?"
Satan- "It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature – Al"
ya, too bad…
Plausible denial, that will be his defense, I think.
Dead? Like in Cuba? North Korea? Marxism is like a social disease it's sometimes dormant, never dead.
Constructive debate? On what?
Why should I expect honest debate from people that have been demonstrably disingenuous for decades? Because they are soooooo evolved? Why is it that we unevolved knuckledraggers saw though this scam a long time ago? Well, it's called a bullshit detector. We just happen to have one that operates. Yours was turned off a long time ago, I'm afraid.
You want to debate about destroying the middle class? That's what this all amounts to. Increased taxation and consolidated government control. You may feel comfortable in a One World Government environment but what happens when that government becomes oppressive? Paranoid? OK, try this:
Why is pres-u-dent Training Wheels pushing for yet another government agency on Climate Change? This in the middle of the constantly evolving destruction of the AGW scam, record snowfalls, and constantly increasing evidence that refutes said scam. What do we need another agency for when we already have one that wants to regulate the gas that every breathing organism on this planet exhales?
Don't any red flags, flares or whistles go off when you hear that?
You're free to speak your mind whenever you so desire, just as I am free to ignore it, as I so desire.
The sham is crumbling. Face the "facts".
That crappy bill the House passed is DEAD. Even moderate Dem Senators are running away from it.
If Ocommie tries some executive "funny stuff" he's risking total complete unheaval.
Read the comments in the English rags, even the Brits are howling about the lies and deception –
and they're used to socialist garbage.
I would counter his "plausible deniablity" defense with the good old leftist tactic- "appearance of impropriety"
"So much for free speech and "constructive" debate."
Now you're just being funny ScienceGuy. Listen to yourself when someone expresses a different opinion from yours. You're actually telling us that WE are the ones shutting down free speech and constructive debate on this issue. Are you Bipolar or what????? That was the entire content of those damning emails, they said to ignore opposing views and not publish opposing data. Talk about hypocrisy.
If Ocommie tries some executive "funny stuff" he's risking total complete unheaval.
That, is when the scary stuff will begin. My personal animus toward the Lightbringer aside, I can't believe he would be that stupid.
His rattling his executive pen – so…I don't know. Obamacare and Cap & Trade were his two "issues".
Both are in shambles…he is trying to emulate FDR and LBJ, two leftist icons…I don't know.
Liberals have been playing the old "we're smarter than you are" card for a long time.
When an issue blows up in their face – they get shrill and desperate. It's kinda funny.
Well with you guys its, at the sign of first bit of bad data its brand the "entire" scientific community as BIG BAD EVIL time and ignore the rest of the "Scientific peer reviewed evidence" because it doesnt suit your views. Then think something like the UN is taking over the world or some crap and also put down anyone with a different view with insults and you wonder why people think you guys are crazy sometimes?
Count on it, he is already making plans for beaucoup executive orders and regulatory shenanigans, are in the pipeline…as of right now at least.
Mother Nature changes over time, that is a given. But Liberals and the supporters of this con/scam have never produced one bit of evidence showing man is the reason for it. Just a money making scheme and to punish Western nations. That is all it ever was.
Translated, Even if they were busted for lying about the 'hockey stick' I believe them anyway…Even if they were busted about sea levels, I believe them anyway. Even if they were busted for lying about the glaciers, I believe Them anyway.
Is that about? You want more?
Science Guy, you are clearly unaware of or don't comprehend some most important facts, allow me to enlighten you. Through the taking of ice core samples going back many thousands of years. Real scientists have been able to get an accurate history of planetary climate change. The undertaking has revealed some facts. It was considerably warmer in the medieval period than it is now, also the dreaded CO2 levels were higher during that time. Don’t liisten to those XBoxers at the CRU. The reason for this is that higher CO2 levels follow higher atmospheric temperatures, this was also seen in the ice core samples. Did you know that? I didn’t think so…
During the medieval warming period it was warmer than it has ever been since, and, the CO2 levels were even higher then due to the fact that higher CO2 levels follow higher temps, not the other way around… Why do you think the Vikings called it Greenland? There are more polar bears now than in the past 30 years, they are not endangered… The amount of CO2 generated by man is a fraction of what evaporates from the planet’s oceans every day.
Maybe the Vikings caused it while they were living in Greenland, you know when it was green. Oh no, that’s right the mini ice age happened after that, sorry to trash your pathetic belief system…..
Come on man this isn’t one bit about Green. Everyone knows Green is the new Red.
Oh and Science Guy? FYI. if you are in the northern hemisphere your belief system is flushing down the toilet in a clockwise direction. It's science man, deal with it. LOL
Getting mugged by a homeless democrat.
LOL.
Its all total BS. America is waking up finally…Ive almost thrown up from this stuff for the last five years. I found it weird 4 out of 5 of my Climate professors had serious doubts about the theory behind man made global warming and distrusted the IPCC immensely. Now all this garbage is coming out about how their fixing the numbers. What a bunch of crap…so they swindled billions of dollars from people because of a theory that a fraction of a percent of the most minor green house gas increase was caused by humans and is thus causing the earth to warm. You got to be kidding me right…that's what they are going to say 50 years from now. Were still trying to figure out whether CO2 follows temp or does temp follow CO2…like… multiple studies going on and these idiots charge to the front with their Swiss cheese theories and make a movie based on fiction that gets everyone riled up!
I think the saddest part is everyone that gave up most of their lives to conserve and preserve habitat and fight for endangered species. Once this falls apart those agencies and groups are going to be grouped into the global warming crowd and less donations and funding are coming…watch. The theory of global warming will do more to destroy this planet than natural climate change ever could. It has taken generations to obtain hundreds of different cultures trust when in comes to environmental science…that trust is now being destroyed thanks to Al Gore and the IPCC.
Its all total BS. America is waking up finally…Ive almost thrown up from this stuff for the last five years. I found it weird 4 out of 5 of my Climate professors had serious doubts about the theory behind man made global warming and distrusted the IPCC immensely. Now all this garbage is coming out about how their fixing the numbers. What a bunch of crap…so they swindled billions of dollars from people because of a theory that a fraction of a percent of the most minor green house gas increase was caused by humans and is thus causing the earth to warm. You got to be kidding me right…that's what they are going to say 50 years from now. Were still trying to figure out whether CO2 follows temp or does temp follow CO2…like… multiple studies going on and these idiots charge to the front with their Swiss cheese theories and make a movie based on fiction that gets everyone riled up!
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wldbil,
You are my hero du jour.
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Gentle Readers,
Dear ScienceGuy,
#1: If you go to this link http://www.petitionproject.org you can read a paper petition signed by over 31,000 scientists in the fields of natural sciences stating that human CO2 emissions do not cause global warming.
If you want peer-review, 31,000 scientists agreeing should be sufficient peer-review for any fair-minded person.
#2: It's not clear the CRU emails were hacked: they were sent to the BBC, then posted anonymously on various websites. This was after the CRU refused numerous requests for data under the FOI Act. Much of the emails contain data considerations and computer code for the models which seem to indicate the models were skewed and the data misrepresented. It is likely they were leaked by an insider at the CRU.
The easiest way to clear up any questions would be for the CRU to release all of their data. They still haven't. They say it's been " lost ".
So, the science underlaying your thesis is tainted by misconduct and lack of transparancy and tens of thousands of scientists state there is no anthropogenic global warming. There have been numerous other declarations, statements and petitions signed by hundreds of scientists to the same effect, as well as numerous individual statements by scientists.
Therefore, #3. You need a new moniker. May I recommend ' PoliticallyCorrect Guy ". ScienceGuy simply doesn't describe your views.
Kindest Regards,
I am,
John Lepant
Brighton
Colorado
Dear wldbil,
Indeed, as the oceans warm, they release CO2 gas. Your thesis that increased atmospheric CO2 is a derived, non-determinant factor seems reasonable.
Currently oceanic acidification is increasing due to increased carbolic acid. This is positive proof that currently the oceans are becoming cooler, not warmer. Hardly proof of global warming.
( For those of you not familiar with the physics: think of the fizz in your soda or beer: the fluid warms & the CO2 bubbles out: if the fluid cools, it stays in the liquid. )
John
Precisely
Well the pinko, liberal, marxist, communists crowd of over educated selfagrandized legends in their own mind stick together like glue. To many people like Odumblow teaching the constitution or better yet the top ten ways to avoid and work around the constituion. I suppose its easier to make up a story and provide your own analysis as fact then it is to dig up the actual facts. Thankfully there are some notable exceptions!
After reading a few of your posts I find I am rapidly coming to the conclusion sir that your logic is, dare I say it? Almost Spockian in it's nature.
The AGW disgrace is a perfect example of what the famed nuclear physicist and expert bongo player, Richard Feynman, spoke of, on the phenomenon of "cargo cult science."
http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/cargocul.htm
I don't believe it's over yet. Too many people from Al Gore to HRH Prince Charles have thrown in with this nonsense. They are going to try to rehabilitate this "Science" and it's going to get ugly.
You'll never have to fear being slapped senseless…..
what to do? What to do?
convert to islam and try to ruin the U.S. in yet a different way. Think of how many virgin credits he cd. get if he blew himself up at an eco-conference with thousands of westerners attending. But then he wd. probably screw that up too. Just before detonation Al wd. screw up and bellow I AM GREAT! and he wd. be denounced by Islam.
It's time we stopped calling the MSM "media" outlets. Clearly (to use a word so often exercised in today's White House political vernacular) they no longer qualify as "media" in common usage.
More appropriately, they are Democrat Party flaks.
What would one call alleged news outlets that have abandoned all pretense of being objective and neutral?
For starters, how about "DADs?" "Democrat Advertising Departments?"
No, you idiot: polar bears do BETTER in warmer weather because their primary food source, seals, are easier to locate; warming increases the carrying capacity of polar regions. Polar bear populations have grown, in part because of the warming of their environment — and the ban on hunting.
Unless you believe that all those photos and film clips of polar ice melting and retreating, and sea levels arounf South Pacific islands are just liberal photoshoped lies?
Going back to the beginning of manipulating the public with fear, history is interspresed with examplesand money grubbers who told the big lie in order to obtain the money they wanted. Now, I think we can add albore to the list of the most egregious lying, two-faced dogs who barked at the moon for money. Let's also not forget how the environmentalists lied and manipulated the public into believing the sky was falling so they could advance their agendas on other environ issues. And, if they would lie and cheat about global warming what other lies and distortions are they promoting to keep us from drilling in Anwar, drilling in the Gulf, coal mining, and nuke power plants. I think the agendas of the borites and the enviro dweebs is all a complete fabrication. If we could prove this to a number like BarryO, we could explore, drill, etc. This would do wonders for the economy, help solve our energy dependency, and restore dignity to the American free market. But, no we have to believe what the eviro dweebs say or there will be a polar bears floating down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico. I think we've been held hostage by the borites and enviro dweebs long enough.
I would love to see CNN have a three week special: Climate Fraud in America starring Sister Soledad
Not all photoshoped but the famous polar bear photo was cropped to create the illusion of being stranded. Also, due to the Pacific Plate moving, some of these islands are sinking rather than the sea rising. It happens in multiple locations arond the world…check it out.
Last week, that famed liberal website which is simply full of trolls, Accuweather posted a story which said temperatures for January around the globe set a record high. Oh, and by the way, if you have not read, they are bringing in snow to the winter games because Vancouver has had a record warm winter. You morons, it is global warming. And finally, can anyone remember forty years ago, they built a tanker/ice breaker to bring oil back from Alaska before they built the pipeline. They wanted to use the old northwest passage, which by the way never existed. Well, the ship could not make it. However, if could easily make it now and they would not need to ice breaker part of it. During the summer, any ship can sail around the top of Canada.
Al, is that you? Were've you been?
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You are so predicable with your whiney little cutsies. Grow to hell up.
Hey ScienceGuy, try the tag HistoryGuy and try and learn some earth history. You will see that the climate has warmed and cooled, warmed and cooled, over and over long before humans got on the scene, sometimes very quickly, sometimes pretty slowly, and will continue to do so long after your atoms have rejoined the glorious cosmos.
Mars also is warming, or so it appears, and it is kind of a stretch to say that dreaded humans on earth have much to do with it.
John, you may be the nicest, most civil poster in the history of posting. Just thought I would pass that on.
If the MSM spent one tenth the time and ink reporting the crumbling of ALL of the pillars of the Church of AGW that they did reporting the lies, the debate would be over.
The Bishops and Cardinals in the court of Pope Algore point us to the "thousands of facts" which constitute the gospels of the AGW Bible, and tell us we are committing heresy for focusing on the recently discovered gnostic texts – the Sacred Emails, The Hokey Hockey Stick Graph, The Faulty Temperature Readings, and The IPCC Backpedal Epistles.
Nevermind that these texts lay waste to the very foundation of the Church – they refute its Trinity, upon which all the rest of the "thousands of facts" are built. Without the Trinity – Receding Glaciers, The False Post-1961 temperature decline, and The False Medieval Warming Period – their religion is exposed as just another cult.
Pope Algore will continue selling, and profitting greatly from, indulgences, though. And the Faithful will continue buying, until the glaciers advance right up their asses, because people need religion.
You must read my post loudly with alarm in your voice, as if you really believe it.
THE POLAR BEARS ARE DYING !!! aaaggghhhhhhh.
and just so we're clear, it's not the usual tides, waves, storms, winds, etc., that have been eroding beaches & threatening small islands, along with algore's sand castle, since the dawn of time. IT'S ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING, ERR, CLIMATE CHANGE, THAT IS ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CAUSE OF EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the intellectual laziness in blaming absolutely every untoward natural event on AGW/ACC makes me sick…
The Main Streey Media is dead!!!!!!!!!!!they just don't know it yet.
The MSM has long ago decided that "thecause" was more valuable then simply reporting the truth. The MSM has lost all credibility, yet they seem oblivious as they run around now trying to blame all the recent snow storms on global warming.
Will just one of them wake up and actually challenge Al Gore with…uhmm…facts?
Welcome to the new age of Journalism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But seriously.
The Times of London today reports that so far, EVERY error found in the IPCC's (that's the UN) report on global warming, results in an overestimation of the effects of global warming.
Think about that.
That's no coincidence, folks.
When data is fake to fit your hypothesis, it is no longer science, its fraud. Remember, for as much glee as we have over the collapse of this apparent scam, we did not do any of this. We did not delete or move temperature stations. We did not lose data. We did not tweek calculations to create results. We did not conspire to hide information or avoid FOI orders. We did not block dissenting opinion. We did not rely on unsubstantiated claims and suspect reports.
If you truely believe in AGW, you should be outraged and be demanding accountability for the discredit they brought to your cause. This is a mess of their own making.
The US news media is pathetic. Obviously, it doesn't want to keep us informed or educated on matters. The BBC is running this story for goodness sakes. No wonder the MSM always thinks the great unwashed are ignorant rubes, that's their plan–to see to it that we are that way.
Fortunately for us, it hasn't worked. Isn't it ironic that real ignorant rubes are actually the news reportage? I love technology!
now that you mention it, we did put that itty-bitty SUV on Mars a few years back…
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he'll point to his grades in science classes as evidence he's too stupid to understand this stuff. he was just being used by the evil scientists to promote their agenda…
Somebody probably left the engine running, that explains it.
the MSM is not only ignoring any and all info that contradicts the AGW Believers, for years now they've been casually including mentions of AGW in any story regarding natural events as if it's an absolutely done deal. read most any AP story and you'll find the virtually editorially mandated mention of "due to global warming", "since global warming began increasing", "as global warming continues to affect the planet", etc.
the intellectual laziness, both in the media and the 'scientific' community, is appalling.
I agree with most that it makes no difference to the AGW crowd any weather
phenomenon validates their science…..or religion.
I disagree that the AGW crowd wants "to reduce the use of fossil fuels"……..from all
accounts the AGW crowd wants to confiscate wealth and redistribute it after they skim their
cut off the top.
BTW……….WHERE'S ALBERT?
And what exactly is your proof that conservatives don't believe in science?
What a ridiculous assertion.
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Don't need to totaly understand of science to know when someone is running a line of Bullshit. I knew Obama was after I first heard him after 5 minutes same with Clinton. But there are always mindless sheep like you to fall for any charlatan. Hey wanna buy some real nice land in Florida LOL.
Proof!!!!!??? You do not need no stinking proof when it comes to preconcieved notions.
It's more the IPCC report, you know, the basis for all of your Marxist bullshit:
Himilayan Glaciers – not melting
Amazonian Rainforests – not dying
African Crops – still growning
The Netherlands – not underwater
Phil Jones of CRU at East Anglia admitting that there has been no warming since 1995 and that they effectively cooked the books.
I can go on, but that just off the top of my head.
If you cared about science, you'd be in our camp, but since you don't, and all you care about it a bunch of fat cat professors getting millions of dollars of grants by manipulating, lying about, and making up data, it's hard to take you seriously.
Especially since your posts are basically calling everyone who refuses to believe in fake science stupid.
Prove that AGW exists. Ah, but you can't, because it doesn't.
What to do? Keep up the fight, keep pressing on, do not acknowledge anything that is contrary to the message. Fat Al can do this because the fellow travelers in the media and academia will play along. They hope that this will only prove to be a small speed bump on the road to complete control. Steam roll the opposition with b.s. and ridicule, and when that does not work, just ignore the dissenting voices. Science is being corrupted before our very eyes.
I've decided to start rooting for global warming
Vancouver is the result of a different flow in the jet stream that has brought warmer temperatures to that area. So that's all it takes, is one unpredictable weather pattern and it's all AGW?
I'm just wondering, have you noticed the snow fall in the south?
FYI, the weather is unpredictable.
"The fact that the oceans are warmer now than they were, say, 30 years ago means there's about on average 4 percent more water vapor lurking around over the oceans than there was, say, in the 1970s," he says.
Warmer water means more water vapor rises up into the air, and what goes up must come down.
Thus the east coast snow…
Satan would also remind him that he did not succeed….
Indeed. His day is coming and he will have to answer for his thefts, lie and wanting to be worshiped. Its gonna suck!
Not having enough change for a Big Mac, fries and a coke…..yeah Jamesb, I like your dream!
Science guy……the emails were leaked by a whistleblower. You on the left are supposed to love whistleblowers. As the real science finally gets out that there is no "carbon fingerprint" and that the earth has not warmed in 15 years, why does a "science guy" like yourself hold so fast to disproven dogma? Could it be you are really a LEFTIST guy? Or do you have a stake in algores Trillion dollar carbon trading scam?
Either way, you have proved yourself over and over to be a phony, so now, please disappear.
oh….burn!
Yes it is…..
Don't forget the Lao People's Democratic Republic, and the Socialist Republic of Viet Nam. Admittedly, it's no longer the "in" thing to become a communist state, but the near death of communism does not mean that socialism is anywhere near death. Unfortunately, the Progressive movement is still with us, and still dragging down pretty much the entire world.
I could have sworn that one minute ago I read your post and it said "oceanic temperatures changes preceed atmospheric temperature changes by decades"…..what happened to that post? Hopefully it was not deleted……because it was total BS. Ocean temperatures cause near instantaneous changes to the atmospheric temperatures…..not long term changes but changes none the less.
sorry john, i see that it was wldbil that posted that….I better get my reading glasses.
Free speech? Constructive debate? Dude, you must be freakin joking! Mann, Jones, and the other "scientists" did all they could to stifle opposing views and given that they insisted that the "science was settled", they and all of the other AGW acolytes (e.g. Al Gore) refuse to this day to debate the issue. What have you be smoking, dude? Is it so hard (and apparently it is) to consider the fact that YOU MIGHT BE WRONG!
The claim that the average, world-wide ocean temperatures are warmer now than thirty years ago is quite debatable. Even the concept of an average, world-wide AVERAGE ocean temperature is open to many criticisms. What is not open to debate, however, is that "snow" and "rain" are not the same thing, and to have "snow" one must have "cold."
Thus, when the "extra" water vapor in the air comes down, it may come down primarily in two forms: liquid, and solid. The former is referred to as "rain," and the latter under a variety of names, such as snow, sleet, hail, and so forth. Sometimes it comes down as both a solid and a liquid — regardless, when it is warmer, there is more precipitation in the form of RAIN, and when it is COLDER, the precipitation comes down as SNOW.
The amount of precipitation that we've lately experienced may be linked to non-global warming, a localized phenomenon known as El Nino. The fact that it came down as snow in places where it almost never snows is due to COLD weather over a large area, which is difficult to explain when positing a theory of GLOBAL warming. Global meaning "over the entire globe," you see.
You see, he made the leap from global ocean warming to more water vapor to more SNOW, but more water vapor doesn't mean more snow. It doesn't even mean more precipitation. It just means more water vapor
Pregressives have too much money invested in the hoax to let it go. There are billions, maybe trillions of dollars at stake – investments in "green" garbage, newage (rhymes with sewage) tree hugging investments etc. Many schools and other institutions of lower learning and preversity have mucho dinero invested in global warmongering. They can't let it go.
Imagine if Algore had to give up all the money he has scammed from everyone, not to mention returning his Oscar to the latrine and then publicly apologizing for what he did. No, he can't do that and the Moron State Media cannot either.
Imagine someone waking up one morning and realizing he has been living a lie for most of his life? Or worse, that he has been caught foisting a lie on the morons in the world who still believe in Darwinism and the Piltdown man?
These people have been caught with their pants down, and it's embarrassing for them when we see how small they really are.
There will be one proven cause of Man Made Global Warming later this year; democrats going down in the flames during the next election cycle.
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