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0bama is either a muslim………..
or an apostate to islam………..
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TERM OR THE islamic PUNISHMENT FOR AN APOSTATE………
LOOK IT UP.
Great program again Jodie. Keep them coming.
Jodie you guys should be negotiating with a TV or Cable station for a regular weekly show…….You would give a serious challenge to SNL, or any of the weekly evening talk shows
Love the show
The only god that Obama worships is the god that appears in his bathroom mirror.
Imam Obama is a god to himself. By now that should be clear to everyone.
Bot don't those Styrofoam Temples look really stupid.
It's easy to be narcissistic when you are a muslim…
muhammad was a narcissist… Obama is only trying to be the 'perfect man'..
loose the laugh track and wear a Blazing Red Teddy and i will hot wire my PC to auto replay.
The 'bamster is too politically tin-eared to "pick a side", so I'l just call him a Muzlim sympathizer, with Atheist leanings…
Like his politics, no real foundation, buffalo-ing 50% of the population 24/7…
An empty suit of epic proportions…
The 'bamster is too politically tin-eared to "pick at side", so I'll just call him a Muzlim sympathizer, with Atheist leanings…
Like his politics, no real foundation, buffalo-ing 50% of the population 24/7…
An empty suit of epic proportions…
TheWon he's been waiting for worships the god of political power…
Come on, it's obvious the man's an atheist, religion being the opiate of the people and all that Commie stuff.
The only reason he kept going back to Reverend Wrights church was to hear the man bashing America, Capitalism, and Whitey.
His apparent sympathies for Islam do not include the religious aspect of it, only the politcal aspect that hates America just like he does.
He worships the black militant Rev. Wright version of god.
Ugh. Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews. Educate yourselves, people. Also, FDR=Mao and Lenin? I think that…well…anyone with any remote knowledge of history would beg to differ. So much ignorance, so little actual thinking.
That is a pretty dodgy thing to claim. Muslim theology attributes very different characteristics to Allah than Christian and Jewish theology to do G*d. For starters, Allah is utterly remote. Muslims reject completely the idea that G*d created man in his image. This is not just a fastidious rejection of anthropomorphism, which Jews and Christians have (mostly) rejected throughout their histories. In Islam, Allah is do utterly removed from us that it is blasphemy to suggest that we bear his image in any way. Also Allah does not run the world in a lawful way, at least not in the sense Jews and Christians mean that. He runs the world be pure fiat. There is absolutely no tradition in Islam of interrogating G*d, or reasoning with him. I could go on, but the point is that the claim that Muslims and Christians and Jews worship the same god can only be true in a vacuous way: Given that there is only one god to worship, anyone who says they worship some god must be worshiping the same one. This is not a helpful way of talking. It ignores important differences and renders moot any serious discussion of similarities (and there are, I admit, a few).
sod off
Neither is Obama
I just wish they'd hurry up and behead him.
I'll bet you were at the top of your class in college, paul. You probably got A's on all your papers. You are SO smart. You just explained everything so tolerantly and educatedly. What a way with words!!! Wow. Aren't we all impressed everybody? Isn't paul SO thoughty??
Wow, that was some post, kid. It's thoughtful commentary like yours that educates and entertains us. We all thought you were very, very, very, very profound. And really, really smart, too. Thank you for gracing us with your presence.
BO said he doesn't always go to church on Sunday because his presence would disrupt the service. However, he can disrupt the city of LA and cause horrific traffic jams to do a fund raiser. Go figure.
That's exactly what they want gullible PC fools like you to think.
His approval rating is dropping because he thinks it's like playing golf – the low score wins!
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that's Obama's God.
One of your best, Jodie. Keep slamming our vacation-happy President. You must wonder why he's spending so much time out of the Oval Office. Could it be that the office of president isn't the Cloud Nine rapture he expected it to be? And I think it's great that not even incumbant Democrats want him to soapbox for them. He's a hex and a liability.
Yea. God just loves it when his prophets rape seven year olds and have people beheaded. Same God? In name only.
Is Lucifer a God?
More evidence that Obama is Muslim
not "tin eared", it's jug-eared.
Obarry is a MUslim Presbyterian Protestant Evangelical Tyrant.
But you can call him MUPPET.
I know Michelle worships Ben & Jerry's…
…. and Barry worships George Soro's and the Tides foundation…
Which God does Obama pray to?
A. Jesus
B. Alla
C. Obama (The One)
D. Depends on who's asking
E. None of the above
The Christians and Jews know that one way Mohamed stepped off from their God when he decided that human sacrifice was the only sure way to heaven. Not the same God, dude.
From a Christian perspective, there are many Gods or the ten commandments would read differently.
He IS worshipped.
I'm serious! How do you stand it?
Alinsky thought so.
I was figuring that since Soros is a Lucifurian, his minion, Obama would be as well….
After watching Pelosi and Reid. She is a lot more easy on the eyes. And unlike Pelosi, her comments have at least some basis of truth.
In my thinking, Oblowhard is more of a Wormwood, to reference C.S. Lewis. His duty lies in following the plan laid out in his philosophy–which is not hard to discern.
I'm sure you would find it a lot funnier if she bashed Sarah Palin or called somebody a racist. I don't find any of THOSE jokes funny. And I see a lot of smug faces after they're told.
Which God does Obama really worship? That an easy one. Himself.
Jug ears made of tin.
But no one watches Pelosi and Reid for their jokes! I mean, I don't even know.
Then you're silly! For example, the Daily Show is a lot funnier than this. Why are Republicans so bad at comedy? And journalism??
I do. Pelosi's The Word routine was funny. You can't sit there and tell me she didn't plan that one out. And her " you have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it" was a knee slapper. I mean for a progressive, she has some great comedy writers. And Reid's “Obama is a light skin black who doesn’t talk like a black man” was a great tribute to Amos and Andy. I mean it is great that the DNC has taken up Jon Stewart's offer to write their material. Are you telling me that they are serious when they say these things?
Quick answer, Republicans, and most Americans do not find Obama and his Progressive agenda funny. So any humor we try to make of it is based in the sad reality that Obama and his progressive friends (1st state of the union address.) are in effect destroying the idea of America. As for your comment on journalist on the right, now that is funny. I have yet to find a liberal journalist who can tell the truth. Alas, look at MSNBC's editing a photo of a black man carrying a ak47 and semi-auto hand gun at an Obama rally. They edited the shot so you could not see his skin color. This is just one example of about 23,000 that I have collected over the past three years. Now tell me about honest journalism?
The Daily Show sucks and makes me sick. The jokes are ALWAYS unfair and unfunny and, yes, smug. Stewart is arrogant and hateful.
And journalism??? Wanna talk about the Journolist for awhile? We all knew there must be something going on like the Journolist because everybody always said exactly the same thing both in print and on the air. They also left out the same details. Now that's journalism you can be proud of.
"So much ignorance, so little actual thinking."
Hang around–you'll get better.
Dollar ahkbar!
Educate yourself, paul179. To state that Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews is to state that God is a liar. Doubtful that you want to find yourself in that position, so go read up and find out why.
I don't think you should make fun of Pelosi. She really can't help it. Something's obviously wrong with her brain.
Allah
How nice. You are SOOOOO tolerant and open minded and clever, too! Just that post alone would make ANYBODY want to join your side. See, you've convinced me. Aren't you smart. And probably good-lookin' too.
Meeeeeeeeow!!!
Hello? Got awfully quiet around here.
Sorry that I can't sit at a computer like you all day.
Anyway, I think your comment before the latest one gets at an interesting problem with conservatives. You think people are being intolerant because we think your politics are repugnant. But actually, true intolerance is only related to protected classes–gender, race, sexual orientation, religion, etc. Thinking people who regurgitate John Birch Society ideas are twisted isn't intolerant, per se.
All pigs are created equal, but some are more equal than others? I get it. That sounds reasonable. I admire your tolerance for everybody but me–especially when you know so much about what I think. You are so sweet. I'm sure you feel very comfortable hating the people you hate because Jon Stewart has told you what to do. No regurtitation there.
He is the god (Prince) of "THIS" world….
Jews and Christians (and Muslims and quite a few others) believe there is one G*d. It is nevertheless possible to worship false gods. It is possible to concoct a non-existent
abstraction, call that G*d or Allah, and worship it. This is not inconsistent with the ten commandments.
Suppose I claim that there is one true creator god. His real name is Buddy and he likes messing with people's heads just for laughs. He does not think humans are his best work, but we are a source of amusement. In fact, his favorite TV shows are “Dancing with the Stars” and “Wipeout.” Of course, I worship him in the hope that maybe he will not mess too much with me. Now, do you claim I worship the same god as the Christians and Jews do?
The question is whether worshipers of Allah (or Buddy) understand who their object of worship in a sufficiently similar way to how Jews and Christians understand theirs. I think Buddy and Allah have a lot in common (including that they are fictional, though I suppose Allah prefers antisemitic soap operas to “Wipeout”). Neither has much to do with the true loving creator as Jews and Christians understand him.
— On Wed, 8/25/10, IntenseDebate Notifications <notifications@intensedebatemail.com> wrote:
"Something's obviously wrong with her brain. "
Botox leakage/infestation resulted in swelling causing the synaptic pathways to be rent quark from quark… There is something to be said for aging gracefully, but poor old Nan can't say it.
Just because I want Buddy to be the same as Yahweh does not make it so. It is the same as dressing up your dog and saying it is like your child. You feed it, bathe it and care for it as your child. That does not make it a child, although it does make it something you care deeply for.
So am I correct in hearing you thusly: the Old Testament's references to other gods makes them false gods rather than some spiritual power they consider god? Though shalt have no other gods before me pretty much suggests that there are other gods.
There needs to be a commonality between the entities. Buddy says that the only certain way to see him in the afterlife is to kill an infidel. (It is not the ONLY way, just the only CERTAIN way.) This is not consistant with the nature of Yahweh.
I understand your reference, however, if someone is worshiping a lesser or false god, as you said, that does not make their worship the same as worshiping the God in the Judeo-Christian theology. Two people disagreeing on how to worship a god does not create a second god. However, I understand the issue to be: these people are worshiping an entity whom they claim is the same as Yahweh, yet their god has only the name and some of the Old Testament political, social and health rules as Yahweh . The nature of their god is much different than the nature of Yahweh. It is very much different as partially expostulated by another commenter in this thread. Also, very much different as described in their holy books which describe their god and his directives.
We do agree that there is only one God in the sense of the Creator, however, we do not agree that simply thinking that one's god is the same as Yahweh makes it so. Other religions with multiple gods sincerely believe them to be gods in the same sense as Yahweh. That does not make them synonymous. To a Cristian, I would call them false gods, but they are gods to those who worship them and therefore legitimate in their view. The only discernment I would make to those people is to show them the incredible difference a personally involved God makes in people's lives.
Don't be jealous, TwistedKnickers.
Clarify;
Thou shalt have no other gods before me pretty much suggests that there were/are entities who were worshiped as gods by humans other than Yahweh, and acknowledges them accordingly in Mosaic Law.. Seems to me, Allah fits that category in the Christian theology.
I think you misunderstood me. Perhaps its my fault for not being clear enough.
The predominance of Jewish and Christian thinkers and commentators have agreed that “You shall have no other gods before me” does not imply that other gods exist. It is usually understood as an admonition not to worship anything or anyone but the one true god. I can't count the number of sermons and commentaries that I've heard and read that warn against, for example, making your money into a false god (or false idol). Do you think this suggests that money is some kind of actual god, just the wrong one. The same thing happens with actual religions. It is possible to worship a god who does not exist. In fact, I don't think there are many people alive today who think that Athena exists, but she certainly used to have big cult. Atheist would claim that I worship a false god. Surely they do not mean to say that the Christian god exists, but is simply the wrong one. So a 'false god' need not be a 'god'.
— On Thu, 8/26/10, IntenseDebate Notifications <notifications@intensedebatemail.com> wrote:
The people who sincerely worship something other than Yahweh BELIEVE their God is real. That is my only point. To those who follow Yahweh, other people's gods do not matter. The people of the era were generally accepting of one anothers' gods, and when someone married into the Jews, they were required to leave the gods/idols/worshiped entity behind. I don't hink we disagree. I just think we are saying the same thing in different ways. Except, then, Allah becomes real to people of the Islamic faith, but has very little in common with the Yahweh of the Jews. I would argue MOST ardently that the Allah is not God in my Christian perspective. However, the adherents to this fabrication feel and believe quite differently. It does not help to have Christians and Jews saying the names refer to the same entity when the entity of Allah's nature is often diametrically opposed to Yahweh's nature. I do not believe they are interpretations of the same being. It would take more than a consensus of man to make Allah consistent with Yahweh.
Yep. I think we've converged here. The only minor point is that you still say “Allah becomes real to people of the Islamic faith.” I can't make sense of that as a realist.
Things don't become real to someone simply because they believe them to be, any more that things cease to exist when someone ceases to believe in them. You are using a common way of speaking that, I think, urges upon us an anti-realist view (even though I suspect you are a straight-up Christian realist). I would have said “Allah is a convincing fiction for Muslims.”
— On Sun, 8/29/10, IntenseDebate Notifications <notifications@intensedebatemail.com> wrote:
Well said. My statement was sloppy. I meant what YOU said
I like the convincing fiction phrase.
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