Judging by the exceptions he recently proposed for altering the Miranda warnings, even Attorney General Eric Holder believes that “the Constitution is not a suicide pact,” a truth first stated in 1949 by Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, and made new again in our time.
Meanwhile over in Britain, this week they have a new Prime Minister. They also have a Queen. They have Big Ben. The have, in Chelsea, a world-class soccer club owned by a Russian oligarch. They have an honorable tradition of tolerance, free speech and fair play. But they do not have a constitution.

Recently, though, a British judge, John Mitting, signed a suicide pact between his nation and violent Islamic extremists when he ruled that two Pakistani men, one a known al-Qaeda operative, could not be deported due to the possibility of their being harmed if they were sent home.
The private reaction of many British citizens has been fury and dismay. From the right-wing newspapers, the same. Let us for this story turn instead to the left-wing, “insurgent”-accommodating Guardian newspaper, just to assure readers new to Big Journalism that this is not a “stretcher”:
Britain’s counter-terrorism strategy was thrown into turmoil today when a judge ruled that two Pakistani students posed a serious threat to national security but could not be deported because of the risk they would be tortured or killed in their own country.
A special immigration court ruled that Abid Naseer was an al-Qaida operative who remained a serious threat, while his friend Ahmed Faraz Khan had been radicalised before coming to the UK and was willing to participate in terrorist activity.
One notes here that Britain quite recently, during the Troubles in Northern Ireland, may not have been so shy about the harm caused by aggressive interrogation.
In the meantime, the UK is in a fix since they are unable to jail the two terrorists without a trial, and yet to reveal the evidence against them obtained secretly would breach security:
Naseer and Khan, both 23, were among 11 men, all but one Pakistani, arrested in April last year amid fears they were planning a bomb attack in Manchester. They came under suspicion because MI5 believed Naseer, a computing student at John Moores University in Liverpool, had links with al-Qaida, and that emails he sent, in which he mentioned a nikkah, or Muslim marriage contract, were a signal that an attack was imminent.
“Hi Buddy,” one email read. “My mates are well and yes my affair with Nadia is soon turning in to family life. I met with Nadia family [sic] and we both parties have agreed to conduct the Nikkah after 15th and before 20th of this month.”
The court accepted, from evidence heard in secret, that the recipient of the emails was an al-Qaida terrorist. “There is a longterm continuing threat [to Britain] and this is part of the narrative of that threat,” a senior security source said.
The arrests were brought forward after the assistant commissioner, Bob Quick, the head of Scotland Yard’s counter-terrorism command, was photographed in Downing Street clutching clearly visible secret documents revealing details of the investigation.
Throughout history Britain has served as a refuge for a many and varied lot seeking refuge from political upheaval. During the French Revolution, the remaining French royal family moved to Buckinghamshire. Karl Marx, fleeing Germany after the failed 1848 revolution, made his way to London’s Soho, where he set about writing the Communist Manifesto. Lenin dodged the Tsar’s secret police by hiding in the metropolis before making his way to the Finland Station en route to hijacking the socialist revolution in Russia, once the hard work had been done, for his even more hard-line comrades.
And in the fall of 2001, when a government was overturned in Afghanistan, refugees from that country arrived at Heathrow seeking political asylum… Wait, someone at immigration finally asked, aren’t these in the debarking lounge the people we were just fighting against?

Yet, so far no one in the judiciary or in the Tory/Lib-Dem alliance government has publicly grappled with the implication of John Mitting’s decision: that any and every al-Qaeda operative on the run will want to head to Britain, where he or she will be guaranteed, pari passu, safe haven.
At moments like this the well-meaning, decent people of our mother country look like a suicide cult. Suicide cult, meet the death cult. Death cult, suicide cult.
I fear… I fear… I fear you two are a match.






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So, what is your real name Andy? Wasoof Mohammed Khan?
I really don't see how the two compare unless you're telling me that the Israelis have vowed to kill all Americans, have taken our people hostage, blown up subway systems, and have flown planes into our buildings. Kind of apples and oranges, don't-cha think?
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Come on man … really? Seek therapy.
Randy has to take his anti-Semitism elsewhere.
None of this has to be. When we care more about the rights of evil people over the rights of their victims or of a free society, we move into the realm of impotence. Killing innocent people crosses a line that has existed since Moses. The solution to terrorists in custody is obvious. Ask Daniel Pearle if he agrees.
The English have their head buried farther up their …err, sand than the Americans. With politicians and a judges like this we can expect to see the last nail in the vaulted British empire's coffin pounded in shortly. Does anyone agree with me that they have 15-20 years tops before there are major anti-muslim riots throughout England. One merely has to look at the history of football hoolaginism to make that short leap. Oh yes, it will happen in America too but, it will be a bit more spotty. Just thinking out loud here, perhaps the new 15 story mosque at Ground Zero will be one of the first spots. Even a tolerant, inclusive people will only be pushed so far. As a Japanese general said during WW2, we can't invade America because there will be a rifle behind every blade of grass. Same sentiment applies.
But Heaven forfend that Geert Wilders or Michael Savage be allowed to visit Britain. Britain really needs a King who isn't afraid to burn down some mosques and send some people to the Tower of London to pray and do penance and get their heads right.
" a known al-Qaeda operative, could not be deported due to the possibility of their being harmed if they were sent home."
So the possibility of a known al-Qaeda operative being harmed takes precedent over the possibilty of the harm he may bring to citizens of the country that harbors him?
A suicide pact indeed. By that logic, no one should ever be sent to prison.
I agree. The next generation of British citizens are going to be overrun when Islam takes over thier country.
Michael
You may want to block all his MMfA email addys in the future….
We here enjoy and encourage 1St Amendment rights for all, even "Randy"," Randy2", Anon, "whatevermatters", et al….
But honestly, they've said this kind of tripe a 1000x, and we're just tired of "hearing" the hate, the anti-Semitism, and the drivil expressed by what seems like the same pinhead…
Thanks….
With the results of the recent British elections perhaps, just perhaps the Brits will pull out of their suicide death dive.
Little bits of evidence are emerging that maybe, just maybe Europe might turn back the Muslim invasion, be it a burqua veil ban in France, a minaret ban in Switzerland, and a general feeling that enough is enough.
I won't recount the same stories again but I personally witnessed instances of law enforcement aggressively questioning obvious Muslims traveling in Italy and France. I'm talking fingers on their little compact sub-machine guns aggressive, shouting in their faces aggressive.
It made me smile.
How are the Brits different from a country that puts on the pretense of "sovereignty",
then allows untold masses of unwanted 3rd world refugees, stream across it's Southern border, and does next to nothing about it?
The suicide pact seems in place, sadly, whether or not a Constitution is involved…
GOOD VID….
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html
Drifter
Good idea, but then Missy8, SuperTrollinator, won't have anything to do !!!
Thank you. He is extremely tiring.
"…and get their heads right."
Would that be on pikes on the Tower Bridge?
Michael … just be careful when sorting through the "Randy"s.
Decisions like this cause a ripple effect of epic proportions. This judge in his well intentioned idiocy not only put the Brits in danger, but Muslims as well. People will protect themselves always if the law fails to do so. This is how discrimination, shunning, and eventual internment camps eventually happen…or mass deportation. Liberals never see that the road they paved with good intentions on the way to hell has a few bends in it.
A bit off topic but, in response to Drifter, the border is not being closed and nothing will be done about illegals for a totally different reason than Dim vote buying. It's really an effort to blur the border in preparation for world governance. When the populations of Mexico and the US are so intertwined, someone (gee, I wonder who?) will suggest some sort of government sharing cross, now non-existant, border may be a suitable remedy to the problem. Think it can't happen? Who would have envisioned Government Motors 10, or even 5 years ago?
The best thing the Brits could do is to reinstate Capital Punishment for terrorists. Capital Punishment was ended because Tim Evans was executed and it was then found out that the chief witness against him was the murderer. But terrorists are a different "class" of people. They deserve nothing but a quick, and hopefully painful death,
Except that the British people have been disarmed (long since) and are likely to be prosecuted if they hurt a criminal even in self defense. They may have to go through the bobbies to get to the Muslims, even if they are so inclined.
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We welcome opposing viewpoints and lively debate here. What we don't welcome are profanity, racial slurs, ad hominem arguments and reflexive, dogged anti-Semitism, no matter what the topic. Them's the rules.
Your the man Mike… Keep up the good work. With the knowledge this site provides and the work that goes into it, we are all in debt to you. /Salute
As for the troll… here ya go… cut, paste and share alike!
TROLL:
T "Telling"
R "Ridiculously
O "Outrageous"
L "Leftist"
L "Lies"
Good points
All pretty much made by Mr HiPlainsDrifter
Fleet Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, CiC Imperial Japanese Navy had spent time at the US Naval War Collage & at Harvard. He knew what he was talking about re: privately owned firearms in the US.
On the other hand Wikiquotes says the quote is a bit shaky….http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Isoroku_Yamamoto
Thanks Ram, I knew I was close. And I don't trust Wiki as much as I used to.
Is truth considered anti-Semitic?
Constantly posting the same old foolishness. Might as well ban him for being boring as for being anti-Semitic.
Could be. But, is Mexico under similar pressure to open it's borders and economy?
Hmmm, a good question. What is it, 12K drug related murders since '06? The most kidnappings and carjackings than any country in the world. A military and police force that cannot be trusted. Drug cartels that have actually carved up the country as their personal feifdoms. I'd say that Mexico is not too far away from anarchy. Do you think that might be enough pressure? Maybe call in just a few US troops to maintain order in a few border cities. You know, just temporary until the Mexicans regroup. I'm not saying any of this could happen but, as in my original post, who woulda thunk Government Motors? Further, who woulda thunk the president of Mexico would get a standing ovation in our house for dissing our laws? Strange days are ahead Mr. Harding!
When Jesus returns to establish his kingdom on Earth, He will wreak a terrible vengeance on these anti-Semitic Jew-haters. God is the answer, and he is sending his Only Begotten Son back very soon, indeed, to take care of business. In fact, I'm not sure we need to get angry or vote in the meantime. That's how soon the return of Jesus will be, and besides, it's all foreordained.
Randy and other Jew-haters would do well to turn to Jesus this instant!
I'll miss him like I would an outbreak of shingles. Did he by chance also get the boot at Big Hollywood ?
THANK YOU Mr. Walsh!
Debate is good. The livelier the better!
But "profanity, racial slurs, ad hominem arguments and reflexive, dogged anti-Semitism" are not.
THANK YOU!
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HPjr AMEN!
Wow what a powerful witness!
And I was worried that you were not a believer…
Completely agree.
English have been bending over for a 1000 years.
There will be riots and civil unrest (I figured more like 10 years) but they will be fruitless; England is already lost – the level of dependency is too high.
And I finally figured out the deep wisdom of the 2nd amendment.
If government trains people to be dependent then dependency will increase and the government will grow until its ability to take from the few slows because, well, there simply are so few; it really is that simple.
Obama's redistribution bent is historically criminal – the results and evidence is to the east.
Governments should not encourage and grow dependency – it works for their political part in the short term, but is a disaster for free people in the long term. The good news is that by the time it hits the fan in Europe (it is starting) we will have time to alter our course and god-willing learn from history.
You are soooo lucky that you didn't dis Chelsea… it doesn't matter who owns them, they are the best!
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What has happened to Britain? This is the same country that once dominated the globe by any means. This is the same country that systematically killed, exiled, and imprisoned citizens of neighboring countries (mostly Ireland) for centuries. This is the same country that begat the Crusades.
Stand up you milquetoast b@$tards! You Brits have a brutal side and it is time to resurrect it. Crush the maggots on your shores before they destroy you. You may have to cut out a larger chunk of the muslims than just these radicalized beasts, just to keep the next wave of home-grown terror in check.
The same goes for Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, and the rest of you old line European countries. WAKE UP! The Moors have arrived and are preparing your demise. They are reproducing in your midsts at a blinding pace just to rot you from within. Get them out. Send them back to their Sharia law sewers. It's one thing to "play fair" with other countries that can be relied upon to play fair with you. It's suicide to "play fair" with beasts who have no compunction to kill off orphans and widows for sport, in the names of Muhammad and Allah.
Thank you for those words. My health is falling me so I know it wont be long but I am worried about my nephews and others that have to live under a Marxist ruler like Obama. Some think this nightmare will be over in 2012 but with all his bills it will never be over. Hopefully he can be deemed illegal and all his bills will be gone. Liberals will try to keep his bills in place. If that happens then we are at war inside the US
That's rich!
Sorry to disappoint you, DM, but I think HPJ was only being droll…
Mexico is like a tumor trying to mestacize.
The once Great Britian has lost its moral compass, having been ruled by the liberals and appeasers. The USA is right on Britians coattails, now that it has been ruined by Obama ans his Marxist Congress. I have faith that these once great nations will wake up and destroy the islamic hurricane that is hurting both countries. The islamic wackos must be destroyed, deported, or imprisoned. There must be ethnic cleansing to rid the European continent of the muslim invaders.
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You could be right, but the US would not be the ones to go in; The Leftoids would throw a fit about "US Imperialism!!!!!". France and Mexico have a history, so not them. That does not leave much but the UN. (choke, snicker).
Britian does have a constitution. It's not all gathered into one place like most countries, but there is very definitely a constituion of the United Kingdom. Wikipedia is your friend.
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