Please click for Part II and Part III.
How a tiny blog and a collective of climate enthusiasts broke the biggest story in the history of global warming science – but not without a gatekeeper of the climate establishment trying to halt its proliferation.
It was triggered at the most unlikely of places. Not in the pages of a prominent science publication, or by an experienced muckraker. It was triggered at a tiny blog – a bit down the list of popular skeptic sites. With a small group of followers, a blog of this size could only start a media firestorm if seeded with just the right morsel of information, and found by just the right people. Yet it was at this location that the most lethal weapon against the global warming establishment was unleashed.

The blog was the Air Vent. The information was a link to a Russian server that contained 61 MB of files now known as Climategate. Within two weeks of the file’s introduction, the story appeared on 28,400,000 web pages.
Not entirely the “death of global warming” as many have claimed – what happened with Climategate is much more nuanced and exponentially more interesting than the headlines convey. What was triggered at this blog was the death of unconditional trust in the scientific peer review process, and the maturing of a new movement – that of peer-to-peer review.
This development may horrify the old guard, but peer-to-peer review was just what forced the release of the Climategate files – and as a consequence revealed the uncertainty of the science and the co-opting of the process that legitimizes global warming research. It was a collective of climate blogs, centered on the work of Stephen McIntyre and Ross McKitrick, which applied the pressure. With moderators and blog commenters that include engineers, PhDs, statistics whizzes, mathematic experts, software developers, and weather specialists – the label flat-earthers, as many of their opponents have attempted to brand them, seems as fitting as tagging Lady Gaga with the label demure.
This peer-to-peer review network is the group that applied the pressure and then helped authenticate and proliferate the story.
Now, as expected, the virtual organism that is the global warming establishment resisted release of the weapon. At the first appearance of the Climategate files, which contained a plethora of emails and documents from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, the virtual organism moved to halt their promulgation. Early on, a few of the emails were posted on Lucia Liljegren’s skeptic blog The Blackboard. Shortly after the post, Lucia, a PhD and specialist in fluid mechanics, received an email from prominent climatologist Gavin Schmidt from the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS). It said in part, “[A] word to the wise… I don’t think that bloggers are shielded under any press shield laws and so, if I were you, I would not post any content, nor allow anyone else to do so.”
In response to my inquiry about his email, Schmidt posited, “I was initially concerned that she might be in legal jeopardy in posting the stolen emails.” Gavin Schmidt was included in over 120 of the leaked correspondence.
Gavin Schmidt
When asked if she thought the Climategate documents were a big deal at first sight, Lucia responded, “Yes. In fact, I was even more sure after Gavin [Schmidt] sent me his note.”
Remember these names: Steven Mosher, Steve McIntyre, Ross McKitrick, Jeff “Id” Condon, Lucia Liljegren, and Anthony Watts. These, and their community of blog commenters, are the global warming contrarians that formed the peer-to-peer review network and helped bring chaos to Copenhagen – critically wounding the prospects of cap-and-trade legislation in the process. One may have even played the instrumental role of first placing the leaked files on the Internet.
This group can be thought of as the first cousins to Andrew Breitbart’s collective of BIG websites – obsessively curious, grassroots investigators that provide vision to the establishment’s blind eye. Peer-to-peer review is the scientific version of the undernews.
To fully understand how this amorphous body came about, one has to press rewind – back to the introduction of the now famous “hockey stick” graph, and how this iconic image inadvertently gave birth to this group.
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On October 14, 1998, Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, and Malcolm Hughes, also known as Mann et al (1999), penned a paper entitled Northern Hemisphere Temperatures During the Past Millennium: Inferences, Uncertainties, and Limitations and submitted the study to the scientific journal Geophysical Research Letters (GRL). Given the acknowledged uncertainties and limitations expressed in the title, it is hard to believe that the graph showcased in the paper would later become the poster child of certainty for a scientific consensus on global warming – but it would become just that. The paper, an extension of a study published earlier that year in Nature magazine, included a reconstruction of global temperature variation over many centuries.
Part of the science of reconstruction claims that tree rings viewed in the cross-section of specific trees can be used to infer temperatures in the past. Subscribers to trees as temperature proxies believe that they provide a picture of past temperatures at times when thermometers were not present. The paper was published by GRL in 1999, and included the first hockey stick that stretched back to 1000 AD.

It is hard to overestimate the influence that this iconic image has had on the discourse over anthropogenic global warming, or temperature increases due to human emissions of CO2. From its introduction, the hockey stick graph, named for its shape resembling Wayne Gretsky’s weapon of choice, was seen as compelling evidence in the case for man induced global warming. The graph showed a relatively stable temperature trend over the past 1000 years, until about the 1900s, where the graph takes a turn upwards, followed by another dramatic turn sharply upwards at around 1960 through the time of the publication of the article.
What was alarming about this graph was that the up trend coincided quite closely to the beginning of the industrial revolution, widely thought to start at about 1850. If true, the graph’s temperature increase could be tied to the introduction of carbon dioxide emissions – pointing to man and machine steering the earth toward a collision course with the apocalypse. Theories of man-induced climate change had been around long before Mann et al, but their graph gave the effect of italicizing, underlining, and boldfacing the problem of global warming.

The utility of the hockey stick graph to convey this alarming belief was quickly realized, with a variation of the graph appearing on the front cover of a World Meteorological Organization report entitled WMO Statement on the Status of the Global Climate in 1999 (above). This version of the graph included temperature reconstructions of three different groups of climate scientists, including Michael Mann, as well as Phil Jones and Keith Briffa, the latter two both from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit – the university where the Climategate files originated. This graph was even more compelling than the Mann et al (1999) hockey stick because it provided a graphical scientific consensus of man-induced global temperature increase.
Michael Mann
Now, the WMO’s 1999 report was not just any obscure scientific climate audit. The World Meteorological Organization is one of the founders of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) – the very body that is tasked with evaluating the risk of climate change caused by human activity. The inclusion of the hockey stick on the front cover was an indication that the graph would also be highlighted in the gold standard of global warming reports – the IPCC’s 2001 Third Assessment Report (IPCC TAR). The IPCC TAR is the document that provides governments with policy prescriptions to mitigate the effects of global warming.
The indication proved to be true, with the hockey stick graph being highlighted in not one, not two, but six different places throughout the report. Again, a scientific consensus was implied – providing a nice tidy story.
Its inclusion cemented the hockey stick as the iconic image for proponents of man-induced climate change. The graphs colorful and prominent display, in a sense, incited environmentalists to enlist with the camp of urgent action, and even inspired Al Gore to include a variation of the stick in his Oscar-Awarded documentary “An Inconvenient Truth.”
With its big screen debut, the hockey stick had pierced pop culture. It was now big time.
(More to come.)






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The hockey stick reminds me of the ole time screen doors, you better get out the their way or they wacked you on your backside! I believe the hockey stick is heading into it's downswing! Watch scientists run for cover!
All I can say is thank you..I am always grateful when someone questions the 'unquestionable'. They were about to 'run the table' with this..with disasterous results to economies around the world.
I recall hearing about the emails and shrugging, thinking "How bad could it be for The Hockey Team?"
Then I read the emails and realize that the CRU guys were batshit crazy – they had held out from sharing data and code but the mails about FOI were incredible – then the real reveal was the manipulation of peer review process. It may be old news for academics but for someone with an idealized view of the scientific process it was a real eye opener.
Wow! go figure. We have finally learned that a bunch of over educated legends in their own mind can be far more dangerous to humanity that simple street thugs on a Chicago corner. Who woulda thunk that? When highly educated people find some form of personal agenda it is not because they honestly believe they are correct but that they believe the masses to stupid to figure it out on our own.
This is a real set back for scientists and for the good honest non agenda driven that is a horrible consequence. One more reason Gore and friends should find themselves paying back hundreds of billions of dollars to tax payers while they spend the rest of their spoiled little lives rotting in a federal supermax.
The role of the skeptic blogs in exploding the Climategate scandal is a seminal event in ushering in the new era of citizen-driven internet reporting, breaking the stranglehold of the liberal internationalist elite.
Along with BigHollywood, BigGovernment and BigJournalism, of course.
Tree Ring Circus
Imagine for a moment that a high school student submitted a project for competition in which he offered up the hypothesis that tree rings gave a historical blueprint of climate change.
Competition Judge: "Ok, Johnny, this is a very interesting theory. May I see your data?"
Johnny McFibber: "I lost it."
Competition Judge: "Hmmm. That will make it nearly impossible to win, Johnny. Can you duplicate it or give us a detailed description of what it showed"
Johnny M "Actually, I hid the parts that didn't comport with my theory., in fact, showed the exact opposite of my theory,..and I emailed all my friends to do the same"
Competition Judge" "Johnny, that's not the way we conduct ourselves in the sciences, you must be confused with your humanities classes. Over here, we strictly scrutinize the facts.
Johnny M: There's a reporter here I would like to introduce you to…he wants to ask some questions about your first marriage.
Competition Judge: Great work on this project, Johnny. The science is settled. You win.
Moral? Research softly and carry a big hockey stick.
Coming soon to a theater near you: "Algore, the Blizzard"………………
I would like to say , im in florida and as of today what is in danger of killing sea turtles that are floating, iguanas falling out of trees and the manatees that i love so much is the cold weather.
cf,
I'm laughing as hard as humanly possible!
Unfortunatly the mainstream media is still burying this along with Acorn and all the rest of the lies, deceit and corruption not to mention the Marxist takeover in full swing.
Thank You for these stories as I have for a long time known these climate change,global warming, ice age(in the 70’s) was junk!
As a very, very amateur weather bug, I've argued for years that this "machine" was trying to pull one of the largest scams in history. I read the "Deniers" when it first came out. Got laughed at!! Thanks to all for proving an old "skeptical" woman correct.
The only type of 'peer review' these pseudo climate intellectuals are deserving of is a dry colonoscopy with a hockey stick as the probe.
Welcome to the club. When I began to voice my doubts about "climate change" a few years ago, you should've seen the names I was called.
Now, with the revelation of Climategate, I trust my intuition more than ever.
"Global Warming cause Global Cooling because hot air raise to the arctic and melts the ice which falls to the South."
I have had this argument presented to me by a Warmer.
The "warmers" are like little kids. You confront them with the truth and they change the subject or flat out lie to your face. By the way there is no "New Science". There is only Science. What the "warmers" do is voodoo
I'm laughing so hard cf but then I just realized that I'm spewing way too much CO2. I guess the EPA is coming after me today and putting a bag over my head! It's really hard to breath with that damn thing on all day!
Anyone seen these? Our takes on Gore.
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?s=goofball
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=11976
[...] Peer-to-Peer Review: How ‘Climategate’ Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I [...]
yup. i've had a similar 'conversation'. i sort of blinked really hard and realized it wasn't a dream.
Imagine how dangerous an overeducated Chicago street thug with a personal agenda can be. Don't have to look any further than the White House.
There is a lot faulty climate science taking place. It not only affects historical temperatures. Modern temperatures have a serious global warming bias problem caused by the pro-global warming scientists. See this web site for a listing of numerous issues.
http://www.c3headlines.com/2009/12/the-climate-liars-of-copenhagen-pt-3-global-warming-is-unequivocal.html
I think Michael Mann was ALSO a commentator on "Earth2100" (on the History Channel- I HATE HC now) along with Van Jones and John Holdren.
HC is in the tank for Obama.
I hear you both. It was really lonely for quite a long time, wasn't it?
Patrick,
Thanks for this. One of the elements of the story I can only allude to in the book ( time and space of course) is how we are seeing big science, including its arcane publishing machine taken down by an army of davids. Pajamas peer-to-peer review.
Actually, A while back one journal experimented with allowing online comments and questions to papers. It's covered at Climate Audit. The process broke down in part because the scientists refused to answer questions from "non scientists" yesterday I had a long chat with McIntyre. I explained what the scientists behavior looked like from a product marketing standpoint. If skeptics were selling doubt, the the scientists had to sell certainty.. new and improved of course. And McIntyre said something that nailed it. These guys make lousy sales people. They don't listen to their customer. He's right. It's an Ivory tower thing.
This leftist wealth tranfer scheme is unraveling more quickly than a Soviet flag at a Democrat(SS) political rally…
Funny!
They aren't finished with this yet, every one on the left has far too much invested for them to just cash in now.
All they're doing is regrouping, getting their stories straight, and then they'll be back for a counter offensive.
It just never ends with these people. Can't wait for the next 'crisis'. Like Michael Crighton said, "we're living in a state of fear".
It's just like the old saying, when the only tool in your box is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail.
When you getting billions in grants to search for global warming, its hardly surprising they didn't find just that.
Plus, when else could people with jobs like this ever have a chance to rub elbows with Angeline Jolie and Leonardo Decaprio?
"We are Spartacus!"
I'm sure its already been underway and has been for some time. The press has just been spiking them.
Minor nit. May be a typo, but I believe the start of the Industrial Revolution is generally pegged at 1750, not 1850.
M
Give it about 15 – 20 more years and yes, it will happen all over again with global cooling. Been happening since the late 1800's.
A couple of reporters did some research on how climate stories were covered in past publications, and they saw a distinct pattern, cold, then warm, then cold, switch about every 30 years or so. The MSM just loves to eat this stuff up, in part because they just can't pass up the head line "World coming to an end: women and minorities hit hardest."
Patrick it looks like the police have contacted JeffId. ( domestic extremism task force or some such nonsense)
I suspect they will be contacting me, after the whole story breaks.
I do want to protect deep throat. May need legal help.
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2010/1/8/s...
Poor Michael Mann he’s stumbled, and his hockey stick is stuck in his…
Say what you want… but there is an air of a higher power at play when a historic cold snap blasts the world after the CRU emails were released. As if someone upstairs wanted to be sure the CRUTape Letters got everyone's full attention.
A mild to warm winter and this would have been forgotten.
When this story broke I spent a lot of time at Anthony Watt's site, which did a great job of not only explaining what was going on with the emails, and keeping frequent updates of how the story was impacting the AGW movement, but was prepared to acommodate all the lay people who were flooding his site, looking for an education on this topic. Very inspirational thing to witness, and participate in, as it was happening.
Count me among those who didn't fall for the scam.
I picked right up on it. Having been educated as a electrical technician, promoted to engineer, and having worked with real scientists in product development, I have never met any one connected with science and technology who ever said "it's settled." Because we know nothing is ever settled. That's why Windows is up to version 7. Because of all the problems with versions 1 – 6.
I trust version 8 is already under development.
I was told I was either on Exxon-Mobil's payroll, or else I knew nothing about science.
I have two degrees and have worked in the computer industry for over 25 years, they cleaned bed pans at a state institution.
So you can see why obviously I must be wrong.
You're just jealous because 'old science' doesn't attract babes like Angeline Jolie.
/snarc
I've been dreaming of this day for years. When the voices of those insultingly called deniers would finally reach the world!
All that education gets in the way!
Maybe if the warmers just shut up there would be less carbon dioxide to warm the planet
All, make sure to check out “Intellectuals and Society” by Thomas Sowell. All the intellectuals need to do is convince other intellectuals that their thoughts are sound. Other than that, there is no need for real world evidence or proof to on whether their theories can withstand scrutiny.
Also, read this article about intellectual dishonesty by the Left:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/the_intellectual_dishonesty_of.html
This is a biased article written by a hack journalist who has no serious understanding of scientific reasoning. Anthropogenic global warming is almost certainly quite real, despite the faux pas of a few irate scientists in Britian. This bit of 'news' is completely overblown in terms of its significance. Moreover, there is just about no one in the reputable scientific community who takes these events as a 'serious' threat to the accuracy of the basic science.
Despite that simple factoid, the global warming naysayers will contine to babble. But of course, they have much LESS interest in whether the science is correct or not than they have in being published or expressing a political point of view.
Unfortunately for them, the atmosphere of the planet doesn't care about their desires, intentions, politics, or petty personal interests. For that matter it doesn't care about mine either. But anthropogenic global warming is quite real because the massive amount of data we have says it is.
This article is stupid, and written for stupid people.
Well Well Scientist Jim, that was a very helpful post. How did you do in you logic courses? Mind citing the reference you especially like that identify the data that pegs the post LIA warming to human activities? Or should we just take your word for it.
Any sufficiently educated earth scientist would have know AGW was the result of jiggered numbers. Would have known the lie. Would have known anyone calling themselves an expert in terms of climate or the environment was a charlatan and a liar. So. Who are the participants in promulgating this lie? They all, everyone, should be expelled from all grants and university chairs. All should henceforth have to work by the sweat of their bodies. There can never be trust again. There can never be trust in any form of government sponsered 'science'. They are all guilty of a plot against civilization for the promotion of their own views and personal gain. Guilt. Now it is time to pass sentence.
Congrats, great article, I heart BBart–is there a BigScience in the works?
I propose that henceforth, AGW be referred to as "Mann-induced" global warming. Heh heh. See what I did there?
Aha, a scientist!
See http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/comment.php?comm... Lots of scientific "global warming naysayers."
Tree rings do not show temperature, they show precipitation. Ask any anthropology 101 text. Who says these bozos are scientists?
That's better, though a bit wordy… Maybe just "Spartacus II: Payback!"
Nuts,You're absolutely right, less is more.
That said, you wouldn't have thought much of our first effort…
…."Spartacus II: Wherein Our Heroes Engage In Deliberate Effort To Obtain Restitution for Assorted Grievances and Injustices Meted Out By Brutal Tyranny"…
It is amazind how much Gavin Schmidt and Michael Mann look alike? Downright wierd.
Almost no one doubts the planet is in a warm period and getting warmer. There is massive doubt as to the contribution of man to this phenomenom. The planet warms, the planet cools, what the planet never does is have a constant temperature over an extended period of time.
Look at the eustatic sea level level changes in the geological record and understand the primary cause was the expansion and contraction of the polar ice caps.
What gets to me, is the leader behind all this faulty and flawed science (riddled with lies) was the same guy who predicted the World was heading into an ice age, and everyone ignore him. So a few months later, he simply changes his claims to warming instead of cooling, and everyone believe the guy!
Join the 'World Wide Protest Against the Global warming SCAM' on Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/#/pages/World-Wide-Protes...
What gets to me, is the leader behind all this faulty and flawed science (riddled with lies) was the same guy who predicted the World was heading into an ice age, and everyone ignore him. So a few months later, he simply changes his claims to warming instead of cooling, and everyone believe the guy!
Join the 'World Wide Protest Against the Global warming SCAM' on Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/#/pages/World-Wide-Protes...
What gets to me, is the leader behind all this faulty and flawed science (riddled with lies) was the same guy who predicted the World was heading into an ice age, and everyone ignore him. So a few months later, he simply changes his claims to warming instead of cooling, and everyone believe the guy!
"Anthropogenic global warming is almost certainly quite real…."
Almost, but no cigar.
Actually Fred, overall the Earth has been COOLING for the last eleven years if you look at the raw data and not the IPCCs "adjusted data". That's how bad this scam has got, we are no longer even given the real average temperatures – only 'adjusted' ones! Look at New Zealand's just as one small example:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/25/uh-oh-raw-d...
It's like they never heard the story of Chicken Little. Remember, at the end of the story, who's in the cave waiting? Not even National Geographic, which should have known better, questioned this. (I notice on their cable channel that they are still believers).
It's too bad as I grew up on the old Scientific American and National Geographic. (you know, when they were excellent?) What's taking their places?
What-the-hell.
PS: almost forgot: Thanks BigJournalism
I think man started burning wood about 800,000 years ago.
Intellectual dishonesty from the Left? Could you point to any articles on that site that criticized the reasonings GWB offered for going to war? Since these were pretty easy to disect at the time, it would be a minimal indication of americanthinker's credibility if they had the integrity to do so at the time.
Faux pas of a few irate scientists, eh?!! I guess it doesn't mean anything when these scientists are the main ones that the IPCC uses for thier research and data!! Then being caught fudging data and not following FOIA's isn't important either I suppose. I think you need to read the post a little ways towards the front citing a report in the WaPo about all the ice melting and the waters rising….back in 1922!!! Please, by all means, if you want to be taken seroiously cite facts that can be backed up and checked. Not your opinion and your word that others think the same way that you do.
So, could you explain this to us please? Are you arguing that because there may have been cooling in recent years there could be no long term increasing trend that occasionally has opposite short term swings? Wouldn't that be like arguing city traffic never moves because at times you observe it stopped at a traffic light?
I can point you to an entire site…Media Matters. And how about a news (if you can call it that) network….MSNBC (Rachel Maddow, Thee Ed Show).
Your post is every bit as vacuous as Gavin Schmidt's "if I were you" e-mail to Lucia Liljegren. No data, just invectives, insults and threats intended to silence critics.
Global warming is dead, Jim.
Between my roots in the farm country of middle America and my husband who's a microbiologist working in the private sector, I've never bought man-made global warming either. I think it's mainly just attractive to overly guilty urban types who have no close connections with the countryside and nature. Also my husband's BS detectors went red as soon as they started announcing that the science was "settled." And right now, he's livid over climate gate. He can make a whole list of things those so-called scientists did that would instantly get him fired in his current QC position.
Hey now! The HC is convinced that the world will end in 2012. They must be able to see the writing on the wall and realize that a conservative takeover is close to inevitable. I expect to be seeing a show that theorizes that Palin is the anti-Christ any day now.
I'm amused at how strongly the denialist contingent resembles the Soviet Lysenkoists.Lysenkoism was junk genetics, but it was communist-party-approved junk science because it backed communist dogma. Every good party member was required to sing the praises of Lysenkoism. The actual good scientists, the real soviet geneticists, risked the gulag or execution for doing actual science.
That sort of fanatical political correctness is just as strong with the denialist contingent. Deep down, a lot of them have to be aware they're babbling nonsense, just as the Lysenkoists were. However, they don't dare say that out loud, under penalty of being purged from the conservative movement. Denialism backs conservative dogma just like Lysenkoism backed Soviet dogma. Therefore, conservatives will keep cursing EnemyOfThePartyGore, repeating mindless sound bites that have been debunked hundreds of times, and making up big lies about the emails, just as a good communist party … I mean Republican party member should. And they would send the real climate scientists to a gulag, if they had that power. They've certainly been free with the death threats and harassment.
In contrast, the AGW side is pretty much dogma-free. There's the evidence, so we follow where it leads. Politics is for politicians. While denialists obsess over Al Gore and other perceived authority figures, we look at the science instead of the people. The science doesn't support us; we support the science.
For two recent examples, remember acid rain and ozone. Those who mindlessly followed conservative political dogma ended up having to slink away after being proven disastrously wrong. It's going to happen again. Oh, I could be wrong, but that's extremely unlikely, given that various laws of thermodynamics and mountains of evidence would have to be incorrect in order for AGW theory to be wrong. It's not quite up with the round earth theory or theory of gravity yet, but it's getting there.
It seems a logical next step as blizzards tend to follow him wherever he goes to speak on Global Warming. God has an incredible sense of humor.
I was referring to americanthinkers, with their pompous self-aggrandizing name. I was wondering how their people called it when GWB's administration was proclaiming with certainty there were WMDs? At the time, the case was fragile since it relied on hyping threat risks and smearing those who objected – important red flags for any critically thinking individual to cry foul.
As my husband (also a scientist named Jim) frequently points out – No one can verify independently whether or not the science was correct because the original data has so conveniently been destroyed not to mention a refusal to release methodology so that verification with independent analysis can be attempted. If the science was so settled and clear, they would have nothing to fear when every skeptical scientist in the world recreates their experiments and discovers for themselves that it does indeed work that way. Isn't that what science is supposed to be all about? A scientist making a discovery and having other, skeptical scientist recreate what he just claimed to have done?
It amazes me that this very basic, I would say 10th grade science, seems to puzzle people so much? The whole alarmist argument is based on increasing levels of CO2 equals increased temperature. Fact is, the temperature (on average) has been declining globally for the last eleven years while CO2 has been increasing. You CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS! Either CO2 is causing the World to warm, and the World is warming, or it isn't. At the moment Europe is seeing some of its coldest temperature on record. Again, you can't have it both ways, if the World WAS warming increasingly, you cant then have the coldest temperatures in recorded history! Has the World's average intelligence level really sunk so low? It frightens me.
Actually when the RAW data was requested, East Anglia University said ' We threw it away, as we needed the space'. The real question is, why haven't these third rate fraudster scientists been arrested for fraud yet?
I did a lot of work for the old Westvaco Corp, (now part of Mead Paper), and tree rings do show a history of the health of the tree. But, that includes everything from temperature to furtileizer to rain fall to growing room and sunshine. They were into growing wood for the paper mill. They looked for "Biomass" so everything was important to maximizing that end product. So, the "reading" of tree rings is not only temperature. They should have known that….. and probably did. More's the shame.
Lol, is that the "adjusted data" or the real data Jim "A Scientist"? 31000 scientists signed a petition disagreeing with the small handful of third rate scientists (who by the way admit themselves they aren't really sure the global warming (that inconveniently stopped eleven years ago) was man made). So, the only one babbling about "massive amount of data" etc, is you and the other brain washed sheep who follow the IPCC – a political NOT scientific organisation.
I see. Then you can obviously point to plenty of examples from your favorite lefty sites defending GWB's decision. That would lend them some credibility … don't you think?
With all the bed pans they cleaned you'd think they'd recognize poo when they came across it, but I suppose once they got used to the smell, they didn't notice it anymore.
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Funny thing is James, the 'tree rings' now show a cooling period, so the graph the IPCC was using shows a sudden halt to the tree ring line as soon as it started taking a dive. Lol – you have to laugh at the absurdity of it all!
I replied that perhaps they should go to their union reps and have them lobby Albany to
wastespend millions on little stickers of fun and fascinating facts, that they could stick on the bottom of the bed pans, so they could learn something while they work.They didn't respond positively to my suggestion.
Wow! I'm impressed. I adore reading "smart" writing, good writing.
At some point, don't forget to reference the AP's widely-syndicated, but lone story on Climategate by Seth Borenstein (sp?)
(who is referenced in the CRU email files) summarizing the situation for the mainstream public to the effect: don't look here; we checked for you; nothing to see….
Also, there is an email sent to an Australian scientist by Phil Jones (preceeding the CRU emails and not a part of them)
telling the man, essentially: "I've spent a lifetime on this. Why should I send you my data, when you only want to find a mistake, an error…?" That email preceeded the whole hockey stick mess, so this "scientific mentality" pre-dates even MBH.
That heaven for the tenacity of Steve McIntyre. So many — dare I say most? — would have collapsed under the weight, power, money, and ability to hide the establishment he confronted represented.
This piece is very very good. ….Lady in Red
Hmmm… There must be a bug in the blog software. My previous reply is missing.
Anyways, if you read what I wrote, I explicitly said 'that site' which refers to the americanthinkers. So, when their folks had an opportunity to demonstrate critical thinking prowess during the GWB propaganda machine's efforts to justify an immoral war – remember there were no WMDs – what did those americanthinker fols do? Did they correctly say the case was weak and reeked of bootstrapping? If not, they have little credibility and are useless as a reference.
If it's so basic, why can't you defend your own argument. You criticized GW on the basis of recent 11 year trends. And when called out on this, you run away from your argument and raise different ones. I'd like to see your response to my original criticism.
In that case, let them keep talking–it's awfully chilly.
Another post from the data-free zone.
That small blog was not the Air Vent but Climateaudit.org as this blog and its owner were mentioned over 100 times in the climategate emails.
I believe this is a misunderstanding; while they did not keep copies of the original data – they used data from observing stations and as I understand it, those stations still have the raw data.
From 1850 to 1920 or so, the 'Industrial Revolution was largely confined to one quadrant of the northern hemisphere straddling the North Atlantic. With such a small footprint that also contained the giant heat and carbon sink that is the Atlantic, how could the IR have contributed to global warming?
The data was not destroyed. The researchers did not keep their copies of what the measuring stations had, but the measuring stations still have to data I believe.
The list of used stations was deliberately NOT provided by Dr. Phil Jones, which makes replication of his work impossible
So Jim the Scientist were did all the CO2 go this year ?? After all its a greenhouse gas which infers a greenhouse effect IE a warmer planet not one in a deep freeze !!!
Proven science is not kept private and held behind close doors with only like minded having a look at the fudged data ( taking from warmer regions with colder regions left out) All data is put forth for all the world to see with an attemp to prove it wrong, when it can't be proven wrong then and only then can the Theory be accepted.. The CRU is the main clearing house for all of the worlds AGW science why can't we see the data, collection methods and computor models used..
The true deniers are the AGW folks!!!
No it was Air Vent not climateaudit
Has your comments module crashed?
Sadly, I am not in the mood to re-type my previous comment, except to say:
Smart writing, good writing. Good, clear thinking.
Congratulations. …Lady in Red
Just more wishful thinking on the part of the deniers. Hadley had its 15 minutes of fame. Get over the fact that it is no longer news. No one in their right mind pays attention to the fruitcake fringe. It's like the outrage over the Obama birth certificate. Really important to a small number of extremists.
The australian you mention is Warwick Hughes. Hughes had been after some of Jones's data since at least 2000.
The are some mails to Hughes from Jones in the Crutape letters.
The data was just a small portion of the global data, data from China, Australia and the Soviet Union, used in Jones's seminal 1990 paper. In 2002 McIntyre requested the same data and Jones promised to send it. "It was laying on a diskette somewhere. " In 2003 McIntyre published his paper which was critical of Mann, a Jones Co author. Mann went ballistic. In 2004 Hughes renewed his request for the data, sometime in July, and from Jones's replies it looks as if he was going to comply. The mails are cordial. On feb 12th 2005, McIntyre published his next paper critical of mann in the GRL. On feb 21 2005, briffa sends jones a collection of newsclippings about the bad press Mann was getting about not sharing data. Inspired perhaps Mann's behavior, jealous perhaps of Mann's coverage in the national news, ( mann was being criticized by the right wing press), eager to join his beleagured collegue in the fight against the evil skeptics, Jones wrote to Hughes on the very same day: "why should I give you the data when all you want to do is find something wrong with it"
people complain that we take the mails out of context. When you put them into context they get worse
be patient Charlie, the details of how the files got out there and discovered will come out.
I believe the New Science Movement won a huge battle but the 'war' continues with either climate warming or cooling evangelists 'adjusting' data, photos, monetary funds, heartstrings to seize control of our globe and mandate a subservient way of life.
I would like to see this new movement, of credible scientists, effectively use the mass communications avenues to champion short/mid term and long range viable planning that would strive to improve our stewardship of the earth and encourage realistic energy, technology solutions ideas and goals. Fostering and broadcasting these rational ideas and solutions would counter the watermelon-greenies, better inform the public, and encourage the free market to bring forth more cost-affordale energy savings products.
Much thanks to those brave individuals mentioned here and also to those choosing to remain in the background.
I've been reading some history books lately. I read about Abigail Adams waiting for Boston Harbor to unfreeze round about 1785. I read about John Law talk about the Bay of Calais in northern France freeze round about 1725. I found a New York times article written in 1904 about Boston Harbor freezing in 1904 for the first time since 1855. My great-grand father talked about horses crossing Halifax Harbour in NS. This has not been possible since the early 1900's.
What does it tell me. It tells me that global warming has been under way since about 1850. Perhaps it was horse manure that started global warming. If only they could have killed off those Clydsedales and used ponies instead, we wouldn't be listening to the crap we hear today. I knew this was a scam the first time I heard that CO2 makes up less than 3% of 1% of the atmosphere. It is just plain horsesense.
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