PART III – A global warming skeptic receives the leaked files from an anonymous “Deep-Climate” insider. Release of files exposes gatekeeping and leads to the maturing of a new science movement – that of peer-to-peer review. Last in a series. Please click for Part I and Part II.
Few outside the climate skeptic circle have ever heard of Steven Mosher. An open-source software developer, statistical data analyst, and thought of as the spokesperson of the lukewarmer set, Mosher hasn’t made any of the mainstream media outlets covering the story of Climategate. But make no mistake about it – when it comes to dissemination of the story, Steven Mosher is to Climategate what Woodward and Bernstein were to Watergate. He was just the right person, with just the right influence, and just the right expertise to be at the heart of the promulgation of the files.

One could even argue that Mosher is one of the few people with the right assortment of circumstances, and associates, to understand the significance of the Climategate files and the technical expertise to post them on various locations using open proxies, a method hackers use to hide their identities while online. Given that the Climategate files came from computers with IP addresses in Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey, open proxies is most likely the technique used by the person who posted the files and links on ClimateAudit, RealClimate, and the Air Vent.
Several days before the Climategate files were made public, Mosher says he had been given the files from an undisclosed source. “[The] file came to me in the form of a CD, and I was asked by people to take a look at it and give my opinion whether it was a hoax or not.”
Mosher, having participated in submitting requests for data and code to the Climate Research Unit (CRU), was the perfect outsider to authenticate the files. Mosher also successfully lobbied NASA to release temperature data and code in 2007. With the file in hand, “I didn’t sleep,” he said, while embarking on reviewing the emails to check timelines against various historical events, as well as calling colleagues to check the Climategate emails against the actual emails they received.
Having felt that it was highly unlikely that it was a hoax, Mosher went one step further. “Prior to [the emails] being public, I got confirmation from sources inside CRU that the files I held were real.”
Steven Mosher can now add muckraker to his long list of impressive capabilities.
Shortly after confirming the authenticity of the Climategate files, Mosher says he saw the link to the file on the Air Vent. “My first reaction to the link was relief,” he said. “I didn’t want to be the only person who had these files and the task of plowing through all the mails was overwhelming.”
Mosher understood the power of the peer-to-peer review network. The task of mining the emails for relevant data could only be undertaken by the group that had been closely monitoring the workings of the global warming establishment. Once the link was on the Air Vent, Mosher hit the ground running. He simultaneously informed Jeff Id and Lucia Liljegren of the existence of the link on the blog. He then posted some of the emails on Steve McIntyre’s ClimateAudit blog. “I did this with some fear because I knew it would probably take Steve’s site down, either through a [denial-of-service] attack or just traffic load.” Mosher was right, ClimateAudit grinded to a modem-era crawl in the hours after the post.
But by this time ClimateAudit’s slothy nature didn’t matter. The Climategate files were under the fierce scrutiny of the peer-to-peer review network at both The Blackboard and WattsUpWithThat. The origin of the term Climategate can even be tracked to the commenters of their first blog posts. By the time the story would reach the mainstream media, the peer-to-peer reviewers had already authenticated, named, packaged, and wrapped up the files in a nice little bow for the news outlets to either ignore or build upon. Within days, the files were fully searchable on the web for the reviewers to comb.
Regardless of how the news networks would handle it, the undermedia quickly recognized its soul mate and the story grew exponentially from there.
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The impact of the Climategate story on the public discourse over global warming legislation is an interesting tale that will be in flux for the foreseeable future. The back-story, however, is beginning to settle into a firm position. It is one of how a small group of lukewarmers applied pressure on the science of climate in a way that the peer review establishment did not…and could not.
The last email exchange within the Climategate files is November 12, 2009. Within the tight circle of climate skeptics, the significance of this date is telling. It is coincidentally the day before a crucial piece of information was denied to the peer-to-peer reviewers.
On November 13, 2009, a letter was sent by the Director of Information Services at the University of East Anglia to Steve McIntyre refusing his request for temperature data under the UK’s version of the Freedom of Information Act. The timing of the denial, which was a day after the last email in the Climategate files, and the fact that the files were titled FOIA.zip and FOI2009.zip, which are both abbreviated references to this Act, provides a striking indication to the impetus of the leak. This denial may have been just enough to incite someone from within the guarded establishment to give others a peak behind the green curtain.

If the connection holds, it shows a fascinating circularity of how a denial of transparency actually led to a forced transparency – consequently displaying how a professional culture changes regardless of its resistance to change.
The establishment’s peer review process is one that subjects an author’s scientific research to the scrutiny of other experts in the same field of research. An author typically submits their research to a recognized peer review publication, and this publisher then sends the article to a select group of peers for critical review. The peer review literature is a lot like the mainstream media. It’s an old system where the spaces on its pages are guarded by a very select group of gatekeepers. It’s a control system of sorts – an elite group is the decision maker that designates which papers are to be, or not to be, considered serious.
As Climategate has shown, this process became compromised – causing an instability. As seen in the leaked emails, many within the climate establishment were interrelated and working together to ensure their message of global warming wasn’t diluted. There were even desires to redefine the peer review literature to punish journals that published skeptic’s papers.
The attempt to control the process dates back years, as seen in the emails, then continues at the time of the release of the files, with even bold attempts to control after the story had been blown wide open.
As mentioned in Part I, Gavin Schmidt emailed Lucia Liljegren, providing “a word to the wise” in an apparent attempt to halt Climategate’s promulgation. The connectedness of these climate scientists is also seen in this email. “Lucia, as I am certain you are aware, hacking into private emails is very illegal,” said Schmidt. “If legitimate, your scoop was therefore almost certainly obtained illegally.”
An interesting observation in this statement is his use of the words “if legitimate.” You may recall that the Climategate files had been uploaded to Gavin Schmidt’s site, RealClimate, approximately two days before the story broke on the Air Vent. “I had no idea where [the file] had come from or if they had been tampered with,” said Schmidt, when asked about the use of the term if legitimate. However, Schmidt could have easily authenticated their content because he was a participant in over one hundred of the email exchanges. The use of “if legitimate” appears to have been purposefully used in this correspondence with Lucia.
Even the mainstream media was not immune from the ire of the scorned climate scientists. According to Roger Pielke Jr., the New York Times writer Andy Revkin was threatened with the “Big Cutoff” from the climate science community by Michael Schlesinger, a climate scientist from the University of Illinois, for the sin of “gutter reportage” and for providing space in his Times blog for skeptics. This, coming after Climategate was fully exposed, shows the severity of the issue.
The global-warming establishment’s futile attempt to resist pressure from an opposing, grassroots collective caused a shift to occur – displaying a process known in certain scientific circles as self-organization. The new order that has emerged has placed a new definition on the label peer — that of an amorphous group of intelligent online observers, detached from the outcome, with an extremely solid grasp on the topic at hand. This peer-to-peer review network surrounds and attacks the study, in search of chinks in its armor. It’s not pretty, but through this social, open dialogue, problem areas inevitably rise to the top. In a case where politics comes into play, it appears that this review process is much more rigorous – it ostensibly sanitizes the outcome from the affects of interested parties.
This is the point that one must take from Climategate.
We no longer live in an age where a system can be entirely controlled. Information lacks the protective coat that it once had – bureaucracies can be infiltrated and cracked, and access to broadcast tools are pervasive. When a system is no longer operating correctly, pressures mount, causing an inevitable instability. And when the hands of Big Government play a part in molding the consensus, or in this case Big Global Government, the peer-to-peer review network and the undermedia will play the unavoidable role of getting to the truth – a truth desperately needed when crafting policy that will affect every living human and their offspring.
The Times’ Thomas Friedman recently stated, “The internet is an open sore of untreated, unfiltered information.” There is much truth in his statement. But when taken in context, it is spoken like a true gatekeeper. The quote came in response to how the undermedia exposed controversial information on former green jobs czar Van Jones.
Climategate was indeed an open sore – but it could only be seen on the internet, through the window of a tiny blog called the Air Vent, and treated by Steven Mosher, Steve McIntyre, and others through a new process called peer-to-peer review.
So take heed gatekeepers. The Undermedia has arrived. Peer-to-peer review has matured. Either operate effectively, or be self-organized out of existence.
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Thanks for the report, opefully someone in the MSM will run with this hard and long and do more real reportage as is being done in the blogosphere and kick the donothings in the European, Asian and American Press into action, and couple this with current northern hemisphere temperatures and record low temperatures (and yes I know weather is not climate, at least not when convenient) to drive a spike into the treering of the AGW Hysteric’s hearts.
opefully/hopefully.
Someday I may learn to proofread before hitting submit.
Patrick,great work.I learned a great deal from this series along with an initial understanding of the warming controversy.My eyes are now wide open.
We'd've been screwed.
"many within the climate establishment were interrelated"
when Law & Order gets around to the inevitable 'ripped from the headlines' episode, they'll have to do it on L&O: SVU because of all the incest.
Great work, thx for the effort.
Patrick – great work. Thank you.
Great set of articles, and further exposes global warming for the leftist fraud that it is, incredible.
[...] 12 January, 2010 (08:11) | politics Written by: lucia Part II of Courrielche’s Climategate series has been posted. [...]
I'd so love to see a perp walk with a bunch of these guys…lab coats and handcuffs…a new style sensation!
Interesting look at the inside of Climategate. thanks for your work
The indignation on Ice-T's face would be great tv!
“…We no longer live in an age where a system can be entirely controlled. Information lacks the protective coat that it once had – bureaucracies can be infiltrated and cracked, and access to broadcast tools are pervasive. When a system is no longer operating correctly, pressures mount, causing an inevitable instability…”
Significant event it is, but as many (most, all) things are “nothing new under the sun”, at least as regards human nature, a similar (r)evolution occurred when the Bible was made available in the vernacular and the lessons and meaning presented by the “experts” (clergy) were subjected to comparison to the actual scriptures.
Experts are generally required in fields that require specialized knowledge or involved and intense study, but when they present conclusions while vigorously excluding any review or inquiry, suspicions will (and should) eventually arise. Scientist just don’t leave their egos at the door, and most will have some susceptibility to the self-worth enhancing “drug” of being sought after for their opinions, or affecting governing policy, and will regard their opinions and “truth” as being superior to others (that pesky “human nature” thing). This was the case in ancient times (rivalries between the ancient Greek philosophers) and modern (early 20th century jealousies and rivalries between the “giants” of physics and quantum theory). A “good” scientist may be better at resisting this tendancy than lesser mortals, but the danger is there.
Having followed this story since its release via Watts Up With That and ClimateAudit, I have been thinking about the term "peer review" and have come to the conclusion that the term most befitting is "BFF review. "
It is scandals such as this that helps destroy trust in science. It is quite clear to anyone who wishes to see, the lefttist/statist destroy all that they touch.
I agree with the human nature angle, which makes the external checks and balances all the more important, to safeguard against group-think and information-hoarding. The difference between the Greek philosophical rivalries (and even, arguably, the physics one) and this issue is that the global economy is seemingly in the grip of a movement that cannot claim the scientific mantle, at least methodologically. This new "peer-review" is a positive development.
This was a truly great series, a really good narrative with an excellent summation of what Climategate ultimately means. I am not a scientist but have lurked at various sites like Climate Audit for years now. Although the math is beyond my grasp, what struck my mind was the difficulty Steve McIntyre and his colleagues had in getting not only the data but the methodology as well from The Hocky Stick Team. Also what struck me was how the scientists at RealClimate acted — like total a… (you-know-whats), exhibiting an arrogance and elitist snobbery that only totalitarian wannabees could love. I am so thankful for the sustained standard of excellence that Steve McIntyre exhibited throughout the years (he is one tough gatekeeper!) and to the contributors there (and at the other skeptical sites) who kept the peer-to-peer review process alive. If we do end up not throwing away Trillions of dollars on a conclusion (CAGW) based on such an immature – and sloppy — science, it is largely due to the efforts of these people.
Having followed the FOI part of this for some time prior to the leak, your series provides a good, solid perspective to what happened.
Patrick, outstanding…in every regard. In the prior two segments, I wrote a couple scenes to illustrate the point, but make no mistake, I take this very seriously..and I apologize if the comedic/irony was out of place in any way.
One tiny point, I'm not sure I like the term undermedia. I get it…it's sort of the underground railroad of free information being unshackled from its evil masters, and the beatings that the truth takes with the whip in their hands.
Liberation Media, setting the truth free…would suit me just fine. Open Air Media works.
But we must use and choose our words…not those chosen by the very people who intend to continue to feed us lies, distortions, misdirections and intentional fabrications
Otherwise, …absolutely brilliant work, Patrick. Bravo and thank you..
New to your site and very impressed. This 3 part story was riveting! I have been following this story closely, subscribing to the peer-to-peer blogs mentioned in the article. But you've done an outstanding job of explaining the back story and beautifully connecting the dots. I'm subscribing to the feed!
I'm still so disgusted at the "scientists". So many otherwise logical people have fed into the non-sense of trusting the "experts" and only considering peer-reviewed publications legitimate. They've been caught hook, line, and sinker by RealClimate's propaganda machine. The global warming advocates have redefined all dissenters and skeptics as "deniers". The smug and insulting attitude of these elite scientists-turned-advocates is disgusting.Thank God for the lukewarmer blogs and the peer-to-peer review sites. And even more importantly, earnest journalists like you, Patrick!
An excellent series, Patrick — clearly and concisely written. The Undermedia has indeed arrived.
I think the article overestimates the role of The Air Vent. CA is more influential.
Oh…I agree! Don't get me wrong, I believe the "new" review is very good. My point was that what has occurred with the hijacking of the climate research by the "establishment" is not a new manifestation of human activity. Modern technology has shrunk the world and made such activity potentially more influential (dangerous) and needs to be balanced by "something" just as robust. The good news is that same technological advance supplies the means to validate and verify the activity. I believe a large part of the problem is due to most people putting scientists on an intellectual pedestal and assuming they only present what is unbiased truth. This would be less dangerous if more people practiced critical thinking (not "being critical" but thinking in a discerning way), and even if a scientist is giving you what he views as "unbiased truth", if he is an honest scientist he will also admit that his "truth" is based on the best evidence available at that time.
…continuing my rant…
To claim some scientific conclusion is "settled", especially for something as imperfectly understood as climate, makes my gag-reflex go into overdrive! If a mook tells you the world will become overheated due to your SUV and we need to destroy our economy to fix it, ask him why the world warmed up after the last ice-age without SUV's. If he offers circumstantial evidence only (tree rings), tell him that ain't good enough! When they say the world is 0.5 C warmer than 100 years ago, and satellite data has only been available for 40 to 50 years, and ubiquitous accurate (digital) thermometers less than that, and worldwide historical contemporaneous ocean data came largely from sailors hauling in a bucket of seawater and sticking a (questionably accurate) thermometer in it, dire predictions and conclusions should be suspect and scrutinized closely!
Phew…d*** you dAnconia! My doctor said to stay off the "soapbox" rants… got to…get…to…the BP meds again or my head…will…explode! Anyway, thanks for the response!
"I believe a large part of the problem is due to most people putting scientists on an intellectual pedestal and assuming they only present what is unbiased truth. "
Completely on the same page, Yada. The fact that they have not provided the data (in fact, have said they lost it, is the most important and troubling issue here. The research cannot be replicated, which is a big no-no in the scientific realm. Critical thinking could have headed off alot of this, and hopefully it's not too late to put this all in perspective (re-modeling the climate models, for instance), but vigilance is prudent.
Haha, don't have an aneurysm! There is no "settled" science. Even Einstein's Theory or Relativity has been reworked. That's the toughest thing to take… no one here is willing to say "Gee, the world has been cooling for a decade, contrary to what the models told us… maybe we need to GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE MODELS!!!" Common sense, I know, but the problem is it isn't all that common any more.
Don't forget all the ignored temp readings from Siberia too!
Now, calm down, breathe… and keep being a critical thinker!
"Either operate effectively, or be self-organized out of existence."
Next up. The House Of Representatives and the US Senate and the CA State Senate.
Of course Friedman would refer to the internet an 'open sore' as he is an agent to the globalist tyranical plot to create a one word government. a New World Order. This Global Warming hooax was/is a big part of the plan the Nopenhagen meeting recently.
As these Soldiers in the Army of Davids, as Steven calls them through their hard word work dilagence and good fortune to obtain this 'data', have been able to get the word out and slowly turn the tide of public opinion on the cruel hoax. All the money waisted on this nonsense by the UN should be going to help the poor in thirld world nations.
For someone like Friedman to refer to the internet in such a wayshows his frustration that the plan has been temporarily thwarted.
Be advised this war on liberty ain't over people. The next battle is in Mexico City in 2010. Lets hope by the then the 'open sore' is a death wound and the coup de gras is applied in Mexico city.
Consensus works well for resolving many issues but science isn't one of them.
Skepticism, coupled with the scientific method is the heart and soul of science. What we have been witnessing for many years is human arrogance, the idea that we have knowledge enough of global climate that we can actually control it, together with a group of scientists willing to trade their integrity for the purpose of gaining ascendancy over their peers and to secure the largess of those who stand to profit and from whom the grant money flows.
I think it would be remiss of me not to also mention the contribution of Christopher Monckton for being an excellent spokesman during this scandal. This is a first class telling by the author. Kudos to Big Journalism!
"problem is due to most people putting scientists on an intellectual pedestal and assuming they only present what is unbiased truth."
Well let's not stop at scientists. We may call it ClimateGate but Barbara Boxer calls it "EmailTheftGate." And Lloyd Blankfein calls it "God's Work." Andrew Sullivan calls it "Breitbartism." NPR calls it "How To Speak Tea Bag" Rahm Emanuel calls it "F**K Repulicans!"
I'm done for now.
Probably working.
Thinking the internet is equally responsible for its accent as well as its collapse.
Is it a French accent or a British one?
[...] If the connection holds, it shows a fascinating circularity of how a denial of transparency actually led to a forced transparency – consequently displaying how a professional culture changes regardless of its resistance to change.” “Peer-to-peer review (part III): How ‘Climategate’ marks the maturing of a new science …“ [...]
It actually might be a Tennesseean one…
That would be nice to see, but I doubt it. The left is very comfortable with pretending certain things never occurred.
Right here on the net, in blogs like this one – and others mentioned in the story above – that's where the real action on this issue is going to come from.
Climategate proves We The People can do it. So all bloggers, time to lock and load. Game on!
That's because you're not supposed to actually watch what modern liberals do, we're only supposed to listen to what they say, and then obey.
Which is exactly why I don't waste a lot of time listening to them, but rather watch them. Much more entertaining and enlightening.
Sounds to me like you're just getting started.
Let me grab a beer, a ham sandwich, put my feet up and enjoy the show!
That's the difference between a real scientists and these fakes on global warming.
A real scientist doesn't mind being found wrong. The greater goal is enlightenment for all.
Science moves forwards in leaps, bounds, crawls, and eventually it always stops at a brick wall. That's where some one else comes in, picks up, and moves it forward. Real scientists know, and welcome this.
Scandals like this are what helps build trust in science. By ripping the lid off, letting the light shine in, fixing the holes, and moving on.
Make sure you take this information and disseminate it among people you know who don't know about this. Educate them.
Reading it here is half our job. Us getting this information out is the second half. And I'm trying to do my part.
Keep them coming Mr. Courrielche, keep them coming!
I read all three of your pieces. All three are great reads.. I found out infomation I never know about how they "hid the decline"
Eventually, provided that the new slate of scientists learn the lessons.
Lessons will be learned, then they will be forgotten, then they will be learned again.
Seems to be human nature that we're always forced to keep relearning old lessons, while ignoring new ones. But some how it all seems to more or less work out.
In the past 6 months I have canceled subscriptions to nearly every single scientific journal I've bought for over 20 years. With the entire corruption of the Peer Review process it was evident that not only were Scientific American, New Scientist and Science News drinking the kool-aid, they were helping to make it.
Um…not sure if I'm reading you right, but if your response to the snippet quoted was that many (most) people elevate the spoutings of those they admire (or are syncophants of) to unexamined absolute truth, I agree 100% (witness how many people derive their political opinions from Hollywood celebutards or TV personalities). I was actually cutting those who behave that way about scientists (in particular) a little slack. Our "culture" seems to promote the infallability of science, so it is understandable people may begin to think that it actually is. My point was they should understand how the "scientific method" actually works and still use some discernment before accepting what is presented, or at least listen to opposing views before determining what position to take.
…damn word limit…
Most, if not all, of your other examples are typical of those that I think we all should view with skepticism and review (even if they generally mirror your beliefs) from the get-go since they should NEVER be considered unbiased or even have a hint of the infallability science has been annointed with. If anyone accepts uncritically what Barbra Boxer or NPR presents as unbiased truth, they have moved from analysing and consideration of opinion and (potential) facts (a process I think we should all go through before forming our opinion), to blind faith. I can at least respect a liberal if he has reasons for being so (even if I think he is wrong), but for someone to have a liberal position simply because Barbara Boxer or Andrew Sullivan tells them to, coming to that position ceases to be a thoughtful process but instead is the result of a cult of personality (Huzzah…huzzah…get yer Mao Christmas ornaments here…)!
I followed this as it unfolded on the net (many sleepless nights). I had been perusing many papers and absracts
for months before that. This is an accurate and consice summary as I have seen in the MEDIA. I would also
commend BISHOP HILL, For his clarity and integrity throughout. Real Journalism at last ! KEEP IT UP gents.
Congratulations on a fine series of reports.
In reading this account, I notice that Steven Mosher notices the link on tAV. This implies he didn't post the link there. He immediately began making a stir on the sites likely to publicize its existence and evaluate the contents. Has Mosher commented to any one if his CD has any information yet to be revealed?
Great work Patrick. I thoroughly enjoyed this series.
very Cool Patrick.
Another piece in the puzzle, a piece which has been in PLAIN VIEW, will come out over the next couple
of days. The people who helped me will get the chance to tell the story from their perspective. Hopefully, you'll
hear from one of the guys I talked to, and then the person who gave me the CD. That person commented
long ago about getting the file. For people who like to do this investigative stuff, I'll leave that out there, but
it'll come clear before the book goes out. Finally, one clarification. I didnt seek information from CRU. It came
to me. I'll let the people involved in that tell their view of things. The actual person inside CRU, had no clue
what his message meant to me. It meant the files were real. It meant the files were out there. Like deep throat
he passed me no information. he just told me what I needed to know. These were real. I could point to them
with confidence and let the community play the role of woodward and bernstein
Patrick, you have the gift of taking a spider-web of a subject and unweaving it into a linear thought process that even I can follow. Thanks for showing how the effects of Climategate go far beyond just legislating light bulbs.
Hurray for the internet! It's getting harder and harder to hide your dirt these days.
Style, not substance.
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The point exactly. Scientists are people. And some people are incredibly greedy, believing themselves to be entitled to The Good Life. For instance, that great concerned human being Al Gore. I recently saw a video clip of him as Vice President. He was far more physically attractive. You can see him now. Not so attractive. Once he became Vice Pres, his sense of entitlement grew. When he lost the Presidency, that sense didn't go away. So he found some other vehicle to satisfy that entitlement, cultivating those who would enable him. Those people hitched their wagons to Mr. Gore, also believing they are entitled, by virtue of their superior intelligence. So an unholy alliance is born, and the co-dependence solidifies. This is the root of evil. It will take intense pressure to deny them the positions they believe they are entitled to. Just like Madoff they will steal from anyone to maintain their egos, and property.
While I have lived most of my life without the Internet, I can not imagine where would would be today without it.
Hmmm…methinks another Missouri Synod Lutheran is barking at the gates, or at least a student of such things!
Perhaps NOW we have a glimpse into the desire for a Fairness Doctrine, and Government control of the Internet.
If those had existed, Climate Ghange could not have been challenged publically. The info would have ben banned from the Public Net. So, there's your eveidence of how much money that government officials stood to gain Worlwide. It's not about about Fairness, which we all know. It's about the MONEY and those who plan to have it all.
Not so different from Saddam. Really, do we believe they wouldn't get a little dirty, or maybe bloody to mainyain their grasp? Just how far is too far, when you have gone so far? Think Germany. They didn't start out the way they ended. Do you risk your job to try and stop what you know is wrong? Your family? Or your life. They play for keeps$$$.
Actually a Calvinist, but appreciative of all things Reformation.
Light = Truth
By the way, I have absolutely nothing against Friedman's $10 million manse nor his 11,000 square feet of living space. More power to him!!
But his crowing about the "200 trees" planted as a risible carbon credits indulgence, and his hilarious mea culpa about saving the neighborhood from an onslaught of ticky-tacky suburban homes (Montgomery County's zoning laws be damned!) are absolute knee-slappers and show that Friedman is an extremely inventive and shameless hypocrite.
You've gotta' give him that.
Steven, way to go. Excellent scientific examination and collaboration, as it should be. It made me crazy when I spent weeks or months on a new product development, and took it to my boss, also my close friend, and she'd say to me: PROVE IT, TO ME. She was quite right, as she'd have to stand behind it internally and at the Customer. Though she knew my work was the best she could get, and as good as her own. However, if you are right, you can PROVE it. Or work some more until you can. Until then, when someone independently can do it too, it ain't so.
God Bless your source(s) for their courage. And you for yours, and Patrick – you are a very brave man. Thanks.
I forgot about the Mole… July 28th, 2009 at 5:16 PM. Prophetic words no?
http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/28/met-officecru-finds-the-mole/#comment-189107
CORRECTION.
Ah the joys of instant peer to peer review. I just got a note from a friend.
In my comment above I stated that I got a hint from inside CRU. Let me be more accurate. It’s more accurate to say that hint came from UEA. The university at East Anglia. CRU is a center in that university. So, I dont know for sure if that UEA person is also a CRU person. He can come forward if he likes. or not.
Is it worth noting that this is all about fraud and gratuitous theft of tax dollars? When, if ever, will "Law Enforcement" get around to investigating these criminal acts and filing charges against the perpetrators? Or is it more accurately "perpe-traitors"?
I worked in academia. I never had to prove anything. I just learned how to pick the right professor the right review board and kiss ass.
Then I worked in aerospace. Lives were at stake. I had co workers die in airplanes I worked on. (F-20)
We had "murder boards" hostile review. Your worst enemies questioning your work.
Then in consumer products. Prove it mosher!
So, I come at this science with a little different standard. A little different approach to show me the data, turn over your code, let your enemy check your work.
yes. See the thread on WUWT call a third theory the crutape letters
Best quote from the Third Theory:
“Anonymous is legion. They do not forgive, they do not forget.
All your CRU moles are belong to Anonymous.”
Very good articles…it's good to see some proper journalism. I'll forward them to friends and family.
Like a previous poster I ended up canceling my New Scientist subscription due to bias on climate issues. I tried Sci Am after that but again was concerned with bias. If they are biased on climate, can you trust anything they write? I'm still looking for something that tells both sides of the story (BigScience?).
Thanks,
Very good interesting reading, but I can see one problem:
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I don't think the dichotomy between scientific peer review and peer-to peer network is good. First I've no criticism against the peer review process, and I don't think anyone which welcomed Climategate has. I think it works if it's not corrupted, and should not be seen as stopping science. In some e-mails the review topics are discussed in a almost criminal way, but that doesn't make it correct to replace peer review with Internet communication. Science has discourses with its gatekeepers, just as (unfortunately too much) MSM, and other cultures, but you can't compare science with the media either.
Climategate has to do with the unveiling of a criminal behavior among scientists in top positions in a field, where a gatekeeping which isn't allowed occured. I think it's not so good to say that the ones who revealed Climategate are folks who has nothing to do with peer review science. Some of them are scientists, and some not, but this scoop wasn't a scientific work or didn't even had focus on a particular scientific question! This was more like criminals and those who revealed the not accepted behavior. If one say that peer-to-peer network is an alternative to peer review, where implicitly CRU represent peer review, maybe one only make this problem permanent instead of solving the situation and create openness. I'm 100% for peer review, and I'm an IPCC denier (their reports denies so much science and put so much rubbish stuff into them that I can't take them seriously). So this was a peer-to-peer police case towards a group of Bolsheviks of climate science — but it wasn't science, or an alternative to science!
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(Another comment in this peer review of mine: Revkin and Friedman are on New York Times, not (only) Times… or?)
Seriously screwed. And we already have lost billions on this junk science… at least hopefully this will stem the West's green suicide pact. Russia, China and India seem to know better. The East's rise this century will be unfettered if we economically kill our own competitiveness by suffocating innovation, production, and growth with green "efficiency". Here, here Mosher. And great article Pat
I don't know how anyone could seriously listen to Thomas Friedman on the topic of global warming, since he clearly and egregiously is just another flaming and preposterous hypocrite on the topic.
11,000 square foot house, 7 1/2 acre suburban DC lot, $10,175,000 assessment for 2009:
http://cryptome.org/eyeball/friedman/friedman-man...
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/apps/tax/ViewD...
There is a name for this process, it is corruption. Giving grants to scientists to furtyher research into Global Warming and man's role in it. As human beings would do they protect their source of sustenance. If they did not find data to back their government-funded research, the cash cow will go away!
But… you have many forces at play, human nature in protecting your sustenance, government policy wonks who want to keep their job and elected government officials who want to effect more control on all of us. It is an unholy trinity!
Watch where your money goes, and be very wary of what charity you to which you donate. Do your homework, find those organizations and entities it supports with your donations. If you don't, you may be pruchasing your own shackles.
Thaks Steven to you Partick, and the rest of the gang. we all owe you big time…
Heh. The little blue bubbles got you too. Welcome to the club.
Correction: these people were not scientists. If they ever were, they've now had their liscenses revoked.
Good work. Damn good work! Thanks.
It's been years and years since any of those three publications have been any good. I cancelled my subscriptions 20 years ago, (about 3 years after Scientific American's Great Paper Airplane Contest was held in the main hallway of it office). What-the-hell, old trees die giving room and sunlight to those little shoots that have been waiting.
It is amazing that at this time in history, when mainstream media has rendered itself impotent, that the internet has been there to fill the gap. With the big push from govt for control over the internet, and everything else for that matter, what will the future bring. History teaches that people have a way of finding the truth regardless of govt censorship and propaganda. Perhaps the internet will be the battlefield of the next American revolution, with people and hackers fighting together as soldiers wielding the weapons of truth in a war against tyranny.
Thanks for the articles. It helps to clear up the questions about what actually happened with 'climategate' and what it truly means.
Just as I thought, they were manipulating the public all along, without the data to support their claims.
Of course Friedman would refer to the internet an 'open sore' as he is an agent to the globalist tyranical plot to create a one word government. a New World Order. This Global Warming hooax was/is a big part of the plan the Nopenhagen meeting recently.
As these Soldiers in the Army of Davids, as Steven calls them through their hard word work dilagence and good fortune to obtain this 'data', have been able to get the word out and slowly turn the tide of public opinion on the cruel hoax. All the money waisted on this nonsense by the UN should be going to help the poor in thirld world nations.
For someone like Friedman to refer to the internet in such a wayshows his frustration that the plan has been temporarily thwarted.
Be advised this war on liberty ain't over people. The next battle is in Mexico City in 2010. Lets hope by the then the 'open sore' is a death wound and the coup de gras is applied in Mexico city.
Spend a few days attending one of the UN's gatherings to discuss climate change or any other environmental issue and you will be astonished at how much of the discourse has been hijacked by extremist NGOs, none of which were elected by anyone.
These Gaia worshippers have taken over the dialogue and have created an environment in which anyone, repeat, anyone who asks a simple question that might challenge their dogma is literally shouted and howled down, and that's just from the observers' gallery, not from the actual floor of meeting rooms where the supposed accountable governments sit.
Thank God for the hackers who outed this conspiracy. Now, let's get on with an objective assessment of the science in broad daylight with true peer review so we can learn what the truth is. If it comes down on the side of the alarmists, then so be it. At least we can have some confidence and some comfort in knowing that if we have to sacrifice economically for the good of our progeny, it will be done in full knowledge that it is the right thing to do.
After we get the UN to start operating in the cold light of day, we can then set to trying to get Congress under the democrats to do the same thing. I never thought I would see the day when our Congress would behave in much the same way as the massively corrupt UN does, but sadly, I have lived to see it. Time to make some "change we can believe in," folks.
We are in your debt Steven, we thank you!
The Climategate Theses is nailed firmly to the door. Let the Scientific Reformation begin!
"These Gaia worshippers have taken over the dialogue and have created an environment in which anyone, repeat, anyone who asks a simple question that might challenge their dogma is literally shouted and howled down, and that's just from the observers' gallery, not from the actual floor of meeting rooms where the supposed accountable governments sit."
I'll bet most people would be disgusted by that behavior… if they knew it was going on. Perhaps someone needs to get some undercover video of those brownshirts, and publish it somewhere on the internet. Show the people how "open, honest, and fair" the debate actually is.
Steven – if you received the CD, you must know the source, assuming it was posted or couriered? Or was it anonymously dropped on your doorstep? The existence of the CD was news to me through this series. I'm sure others are dying to know more information. Do you think the source will become public, or remain hidden?
[...] described in Patrick Courrielche’s work on the outing of the Climategate emails here, here, here. and one of the key points Steve makes is that of course if the link was placed on CA, tAV and [...]
Peer review is a "system", the IPCC is a "system", Government and banking are "systems". We all see that people "in systems" eventually work out a way to manipulate that system for personal gain. At the moment Climate Audit , The Blackboard and the others are run by individuals who have integrity and who are outside any system but how can we take that forward without including them in a system and thus making sure of their eventual corruption?
The Federal Government wants to be the Internet Gatekeeper here in the U.S. They plan to do this with an offer of "free" broadband to the public. They are playing on our need for greed. However, once established they will tax, control and stifle any private competition. In the long-run the cost will be our Freedom and our ability to communicate the Truth.
At a recent FCC meeting on the subject of national broadband in Memphis, TN, the FCC representative stated his premise as “national broadband is a right” and later suggested that it was “like a civil right”. When someone made a comment about the seeming socialist bent and the fact that their minds seem to already be made up, that someone was thanked for his comment and the “discussion” about our new “civil right” continued.
The Liberal Federal Government has already decided that you will have national broadband. This is the opening salvo to limit and restrict the free flow of information on the internet. Just like Obama Care, this is just a starting point. Moreover, this is a direct threat to sites such as this one. Instead of assaulting Talk Radio first with the Fairness Doctrine, they are assaulting Breitbart and all sites like this one. THE LIBERAL ARE COMING, THE LIBERALS ARE COMING. Patriots pick up your muskets and unite. THIS MUST BE STOPPED!
[...] Courrielche has done an interesting timeline on the outing of the Climategate emails here, here, here in which Mosher’s busy November 17-19 has been publicized for the first [...]
I teach a course in which Hegel figures very largely as the most important exponent of the System of Knowledge, which he says is self enclosed and self authenticating (See his "Phenomenology of Spirit"). Much of scientific epistemology is based on such thinking. Hegel always derided his detractors with the quip that "you can only critique the system from within", which means that you can never destroy his underlying presupposition of dialectical process. For years I used to think he had us by the short and hairy on that but have since changed my mind. Your comment above, that we cannot control the system any longer, indicates very well the status of knowledge in the peer to peer world that is the net. Well done! I will be making this three part series available to my students a an excellent example of where knowledge has come to in our time. It may not be a final argument against Hegel, but it is certainly a balancing feature of the "system" that he could not have accounted for.
[...] Climategate curtain is opened a bit further courtesy of Patrick Courrielche at Big Journalism: Few outside the climate skeptic circle have ever [...]
Summary – It is very difficult for anyone in power to lie. Unless you've got lots of people who the scam places it in there interest to lie. That is how Obama got elected. He lied. Every blessed day he lied. Obama lied about taxes. Obama lied about jobs. Obama lied about health care. Joe Wilson should get the man of the year – unless Scott Brown wins. In which case he should get the presidential medal of freedom when palin/romney/gingrich/thompson etc. become president in 2012!
Kudos to Patrick Courrielche for a most accessible summary!
Through its well-informed Sites, Blogs and Forums, the Internet has become the modern "Committees of Correspondence".
Here’s the same story from another perspective:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/13/climategate%e2%80%94the-ctm-story/
A clearification (maybe) : I've now read part I and II, and completely agree that ClimateAudit, The Blackboard, Air Vent, etc all doing peer-to peer review, which add and improve quality in this scientific field. However Climategate in particular wasn't this, but it proved a non-scientific standard within the AGW network which we've seen the result of.
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The IPCC report, with its large reinforcement based CO2 forcing etc — as well as ideas of catastrophes if temperature raise 1-2 degrees C — isn't compatible with acceptable scientific standards. It's an outcome of dogma, and it has all the qualities of dogma when it comes to how it is defended. In the centre of the AGW network (IPCC, CRU etc) there is no good science to defend. Good climate scientists deserve to work in an environment without IPCC's dogma.
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So, the AGW dogma in the center of climate science is more like fraud than a spontaneous defensible discourse.
I wonder how serious this is in Big Pharma and Big Agriculture?
[...] stumbled across yet another "ClimateGate" article (by way of James Delingpole), this one going right for the jugular of science: peer review. The [...]
[...] Please click for Part I and Part III. [...]
I agree. Making money from blogs is the potential corruptive influence.
I agree. Making money from blogs is the potential corruptive influence. Any chance of open disclosure of blog financials?
The internet can help enormously with transparency. Maybe it's ime for all governments and the UN to broadcast all meetings.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/13/climategate...
if you are interested in more… Charles the Moderator (at Watts Up With That) is the "one" who gave Mosher the CD…
I guess I would have to say thank god for the folks who have been brave enough to throw themselves into this fray. Also many thanks to our English cousins for taking on this fable. Without the brits we may be paying even more ridiculous taxes and sleeping in freezing bedrooms thanks to Gore, et al. The Marxist ideology is pervasive and finds many a nook and cranny. This Climate deal seems to be their latest nook and cranny.
This is brilliant, thank you!
One of the future initiatives of the Rudd Govt in Australia, as part of his grand 'broadband policy' is to filter 'undesirable' overseas content. That effectively means Government censorship of the only truly free media that is available. This would obviously make it much more easy to control the flow of information to suit the Governments purpose.
In the light of the 'climategate expos'e' I fear that the whole of Australia will be left ignorant of the truth in matters such as this and maybe be left out of the loop of the independant media entirely. We are already (in my opinion) a vast field of mushrooms kept in the dark and fed you know what from a tiny MSM of 3 commercial and one public TV channel – all with standardized news broadcasts and with the eradication of the independant media their could be in the near future a complete stranglehold on the flow of information.We are so politically passive in this country it makes me want to scream and the mainstream swallowing of this AGW propoganda makes me wonder if the Govt will ever be held too account.
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And the puppet in front of the omniscient teleprompter has included revenues from Cap and Trade in his latest budget. This man is delusional or insane or better yet a progressive ideologue who is determined to destroy America.
"Reinforcing the view of global warming as a major threat to the planet, one that demands immediate government action, is the government's overwhelming dominance as the funding source for research on global climate change. Interestingly, the federal government is almost the only source of funding for such research, and the bias of those who control this funding cannot be doubted. So, as [researchers] Michaels and Balling point out, "The chance that a finishing graduate student in climatology owes his publications, his dissertation, and therefore his newfound job, to federal global climate change funding is very high. Who among them is going to write a dissertation that global warming is an overblown problem?' (Michaels, Patrick J., and Robert C. Balling, Jr., 2000, 'The Satanic Gases: Clearing the Air About Global Warming', Washington, DC: The Cato Institute, page 196.)
" Michaels and Balling do not claim that dissenting views do not get published…but they affirm that those who question the prevailing view on global warming find it more difficult to get their papers through the reviewing process and face more obstacles in achieving successful careers."—from the essay, "Global Warming and Its Dangers", F.R. Clark/ Dwight R. Lee, as published in "Rethinking Green: Alternatives to Environmental Bureaucracy", The Independent Institute, Higgs and Close, Editors; 2005.
Your careless analogy calling upon the theory of "self-organization" is a painful stretch that calls your analytical abilities — and understanding of science — into question. You should contain your rhetoric within your areas of knowledge to avoid being discredited.
[...] (Addendum, January 12, 2010 — a concise and fascinating history of Climategate can be found at these links: Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3.) [...]
[...] Mann, the lead author of the debunked “Hockey Stick” fable and principal actor in ClimateGate. Specifically, the paper bemoans the inevitable slowing of Mann’s ultra-important, (even [...]
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