In yet another blow to progress and achievement and the advancement of man, Obama aims to axe the moon mission. The White House budget proposal slated to be released Monday strips all funding for NASA’s Constellation program, a plan to resume manned moon landings by 2020. It also ends funding for the Ares I rocket that had been set to replace the space shuttle, and the Ares V cargo rocket that was to carry supplies needed for humans to go to the moon.

Instead, despite the revelations that exposed the global warming hoax, pulling the mask off the largest fraud in human history, Barack Obama is going full speed ahead with his plan to redistribute the West’s wealth to Third World nations in an attempt to halt a chimerical “global warming.”
He doesn’t seem to care that it’s all a hoax. The University of East Anglia’s climate research unit (CRU), which has been a chief source for the evidence of global warming, was exposed last year when emails came to light showing that researchers there had deliberately covered up data that didn’t fit their theory. And this week the university came under fire again, when it was found to have violated laws by refusing to hand over its raw data for inspection after the coverup came to light. Nevertheless, Obama’s top climate negotiator, Todd Stern, announced that the Obama Administration remained intent on setting the U.S. on the road to economic suicide by reducing carbon emissions by 17 percent by 2020 – a plan that would decimate the American economy and relegate us to Third World status.
Ayn Rand said it best:
During the nineteenth century, mankind came close to economic freedom, for the first and only time in history. Observe the results. Observe also that the degree of a country’s freedom from government control was the degree of its progress. America was the freest and achieved the most.
But now we have left the Age of Enlightenment and entered the Age of the Philistine. It hurts the heart, this rapid deterioration of the conditions in which free men produce, invent, and prosper, because of government taxation and regulation. Americans are paying the price of force. Big government has been encroaching on our lives for decades now, and with Obama in the White House, the bottom is falling out.
The changes are imperceptible on a daily basis, but for those of us over forty, it is not hard to recall the differences. Particularly the small differences. Eastern Airlines (long defunct) was the most familiar carrier New York to Florida – and every flight was an experience. (For a time, it was even run by a NASA astronaut, the commander of Apollo 8, Frank Borman.) To the privileged was the champagne and the ice cream sundae cart. That lovely little cart would make its way down the aisle, and you’d choose from the sprinkles or the whipped cream or the hot sauce atop your favorite flavor. Silly, I know, but like most things, this lagniappe went the way of the horse and buggy, as did the hot meals that every airline once served. And how could all this not have disappeared? The government taxed everything from soup to nuts. From the fuel surcharges to security fees, all these new taxes always come out of the consumer’s pocket. Air travel went from being an experience to dreaded harassment.
Who can forget the excitement of the Concorde? The Concorde was going to be the future of air travel, in which we’d bop from place to place in half the time. Now the Concorde is defunct. Kaput. Much like the environment for producers and businessmen, who are the recurring “villains” in the set pieces of Democrats, statists, collectivists, moochers and looters.

Everything is worse, less, smaller, and more expensive. When you went on vacation, the valet took your car. Now it’s $24.95 to park your rental car at the hotel.
Are these industries gouging the customer? No. They are trying to stay in business.
This is the price of force. This is the price of coercion. This is the price of statism. This is the price of big government. The very idea of America has been subsumed by an enslavement mentality.
In a rational world, we wouldn’t need a NASA. The private industry would do it all, but government has just about snuffed out every possibility of that.
And now Obama is killing space exploration. Billions for graft and corruption and his union army and even more for the junk science of global warming, but nothing for the future discovery and the progress of man. It’s awful. The collapse of science is all but complete.
Trillions for global hoaxing, the middle finger for science. And for Americans, Third World conditions.






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This is his plan all along and he realizes now that the American people are on to him so he has to steal as much as he can and give it to other countries that will support him in the UN before he it thrown out of the united States. He knows now he will be a one term president but his plans are bigger that America now. If he can give away all of americas wealth to all the socialist and communist countries and other america hating countries they will sopport him in his bid for the larger stage. The president of the UN.
Well, there is no oppressed proletariat laboring under the thumb of a lunar bourgeoisie, so what's the point?
Most of Obama's followers don't believe we ever landed on the moon in the first place. If you don't believe me just ask one you will see
We will have to rename NASA any ideas?
the Rooskies, the Red Chinese, and India can't WAIT to get there…
And why not us? Because there is ENERGY on the moon- Helium 3- which could provide clean fusion energy for a millenia. It will make the abovementioned countries insanely wealthy.
Can't have that here. No, no creation of wealth in the United States. Just blow the $$ on 'climate research' that THEY know is a planetary phenomenon- Mars is 'warming' as well.
It's called the Sun…
Yep, he sure is another JFK. Did anyone tell this guy that JFK was the president whose policy put men on the moon? What country is this guy from anyway.
Dear NaziFonz:
No.
Signed. Teh Evulz Joo Conspiracy!1
He's more of another FDR, since his policies will delay our nation's economic recovery, while simultaneously burdening the nation with new layers of regulation and bureaucracy.
"What country is this guy from anyway."
Well, since he's spent a mint to keep the answer to that question from the public, I think the answer would surprise a lot of people.
Well, you have to have your clueless liberal priorities!
I think it's a tragedy how we accomplished going to the moon using technology from the 1960s, and have done bloody little since. Why did we stop? Why did we not update the shuttles sooner? Sure, we've done some great thing with unmanned exploration, but we never should have stopped the moon missions.
And now, jackass stops the next step.
I think we should stop giving money to loser liberals to sit on their asses all day and collect checks.
Right out of the playbook guys "tie the scientists funding to proving his BS in climate change so he can Justify giving america to the rest of the world. Do you really think NASA will tell him he has no clothes on. Their livelyhood is now tied to supporting his BS. Say good by to science. Who needs it any We never went to the moon anyway right?
We're last in nuclear and fast becoming a third world country the progressives have always envisioned for us. We shared our nuclear plant plans with China who now have 15 – even Europe are way ahead of us.
It doesn't even matter that the American people consider the environment last on their list of priorities – we've become a dictatorship….
http://people-press.org/report/584/policy-priorit...
'Hoax and Chains'
They have used manipulated and cherry picked data to propagandize a majority into believing this bunk.
It will be used to keep the 3rd world chained in poverty; unable to develop any meaningful energy sources.
It will be used to chain the western democracies into subservience to the global will.
We must not and WILL not capitulate.
As Al Gore has repeated said, "The debate is over."
It has been won by exposing the fraud. Now we have to educate the world.
And we have to elect representatives that understand the stakes.
This is one issue that deserves to be disqualifier for any candidate that shows any signs of buying into the fraud.
You May have missed it but replace A for America to A for Africa and you now know we have become white slaves and ubama said it was a deal that Russia will now be charging $51 million per person we want flown to the space station.
United States of Africa, land of the zilou white tribe.
You paint a rather bleak picture Pam., Looks like we're headed for that inglorious dystopia on the Obama Express and the rails are not made of Rearden Steel….
I had to laugh yesterday, when he was talking to the Republicans in MD, when he said "I am not an Ideologue"…He's the ultimate child of the 'radical '60's….Bill Ayres his BidBrother and Rev Wright his father figure..
Obama is a minnow, that thinks he's a shark, swimming along in a sea of corruption, getting cover from the MSM, money from the Union Machine, voted in by drones educated in the Public School Madrassas.
It is indeed a bleak picture for the cause of Liberty and Freedom…
YOU ARE GETTING BAD FACTS FROM BAD REPORTERS!
I’m amazed at how a few bad articles by reporters who don’t understand anything about aerospace or space exploration have caused everyone to freak out over something that isn’t true at all. Especially when the very important details of this plan aren’t even public yet.
President Obama’s plan is probably the only thing he’s done so far that can be called conservative. He is NOT cancelling plans to go to the Moon, or Mars, or anywhere else. What he is doing is cancelling the Gov’t build rocket program that is way over budget and wouldn’t put the first Gov’t employee back on the moon until 2023 at the earliest. Instead he is going to turn over all of NASA’s launch needs to COMMERCIAL PROVIDERS. That’s right, he’s getting NASA out of the launch business and making them help build a new commercial manned launch capabilities using companies like SpaceX, Boeing, Blue Origin, Lockheed, XCOR, etc.
As far as the global warming stuff there is some additional money but it is all part of a restoration of NASA’s R&D program. Constellation, NASA’s currently over budget plan, sucked up so much money over the past 4 years that it sucked NASA’s basic R&D programs dry. This is simply restoring that budget to what its always been.
I’ve been a conservative/libertarian since I was 16. As an engineer I’ve been skeptical of AGW since before most people knew what the term was. Please don’t make a knee-jerk reaction to Obama’s plan for NASA based on your reactions to his other programs. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. This is one of those times.
Thank God all you people in are in minority and will continue to be. This supposed author calls global warming a “hoax”. Where are her? facts. Just another teabagger spouting off without backing it up with REAL facts. KTBA
More news about the scam artists at the UN:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7009081.ece
Too bad we have to read a British publication to get more of the truth about the biggest hoax in the history of the world.
PEOPLE! We can't go to the moon when everyone knows it's China's turn to conquer space! How much money did the Bam-meister get from China to help him win the election?
Paybacks are a biotch and the US continues to bow to China…
Meanwhile the Chinese want to monoploize windmills and OMG! ain't it funny how windpower has become so important?
Link to ALL the stuff China wants to do in space: ain't it cool?
http://www.spacedaily.com/dragonspace.html
gmh-
Quoted today in the UK times-
"Rajendra Pachauri was told that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment that the glaciers would disappear by 2035 was wrong, but he waited two months to correct it. He failed to act despite learning that the claim had been refuted by several leading glaciologists."
This is just one of the facts that libtards like you refuse to comprehend. You need to learn to read something besides comic books.
Don't forget the Embryonic Stem Cell Research Hoax… which has not yet led to a single cure, although the less controversial stem cells derived from adult tissue have led to many. Yet, Mr. Obama continues to fund the former and pretend like the latter are less potent.
3 names: Christie, McDonnell, Brown.
the inconvienent truth is NASA hasn't really progressed much since the moon landing. they are still using the same basic rocket design patented in 1914 by Dr. Goddard. Trillions of dollars and all they got is something out Tim the Toolmans bag of tricks BIGGER MORE? 70 to 80 percent of your fuel to carry your fuel ? even i know there's something wrong with that. they need to come up with a more efficient and less dangerous source of energy not to mention a piece of debris smaller than a penny and you have a ship full of dead astronauts. give them money for that but untl then one word ROBOTS
Minority? Perhaps, perhaps not. But as to people who consider AGW to be a leading concern, over the economy, jobs, national security, etc, they are decidedly in the minority.
Heh. With the exception of the hemp wearing/smoking, hacky sack juggling, overly pierced contingent, most people put the question of what Hollywood denizen is schtupping what other Hollywood denizen ahead of the AGW hoax. Just compare sales of People, Cosmopolitan, and The Enquirer to sales of magazines that teach you how to wipe your behind with poison ivy.
This thinking that we can afford the moon when we are flat broke and in massive debt – get a clue – until we cure the deficit and balance the budget, along with cutting massive income-tax rates, including elimination of capital-gains taxes and death taxes, then scaling back government welfare programs, we have no biz even considering it.
There is nothing to tax on the moon. No one to indoctrinate.
Do some web searching and you might acctually find the inconvient facts that put the AGW fraud in clear context.
Using standard name-calling is simply inane and only diminishes any credibility your post may otherwise have.
"Are these industries gouging the customer? No. They are trying to stay in business."
The same is true of most companies today – particularly insurance companies. Insurance is one of the most highly-regulated industries in the country, and consequently it is also one of the most expensive. Regulation ALWAYS means higher prices. Always.
"There is nothing to tax on the moon. No one to indoctrinate."
lol
There is a simple solution to all of this. IMPEACH OBAMA!!! If you don’t want to live your life as a slave, start pressuring your representatives to impeach the sorry SOB. It would be the first step in taking back our country from the progressives in both parties.
Quoted today in the UK times-
"Rajendra Pachauri was told that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment that the glaciers would disappear by 2035 was wrong, but he waited two months to correct it. He failed to act despite learning that the claim had been refuted by several leading glaciologists." Pachauri had this info at least 2 months prior to Copenhagen.
"Dr Pacharui has also been accused of using the error to win grants worth hundreds of thousands of pounds."
It is up to you to believe whatever you wish, but if you really want the truth, you must seek it. This whole thing is nothing but a scam to put money in the pockets of thieves… your money, my money, everyone's money.
I propose a new policy here…..When fools like gmh, the Fonz, Dhasselhoff, PTecknologr post here, we just ignore them…just like we will do after Nov, when they are gone from Congress.
They can scream, spout, cry a river of drivit, anti-semitism and hate but we will just smile and do what's right for US….
I've given up responding, it's a waste of time and "ink"….
Stop responding to them…Eventually they go away…
Clicked on the union link. Wow, what a picture. I've seen better mug shots from crack heads in LA.
Not "hoax"" – that denotes no monetary gain.
Call man-made global warming a "FRAUD", because many people are intentionally deceiving to make billions.
It is amusing to read of "minorities" and "consensus" with regards to AGW and science in general. Science does not work that way, and when science is subordinated to politics, tremendous harm can be done. Science must remain the most free of the free markets, and free markets are not beholden to consensus. Intrusion on that marketplace ideas with political forces inevitably leads to corruption of its output; the goal ceases to be truth, but expedience.
It is interesting that this announcement about NASA comes at the same time as India's announcement of it's foray into space.
Excellent point. The mistake that so many poorly informed leftists make, is that their purity of intentions (just wanting to make sure the polar bear cubs have ice floes to play on, for example) imply similarly pure intentions of the leaders of the greenies.
Useful idiots, Lenin called them.
Carter I destroyed the original NASA. Carter II will finish the job.
[...] one giant step backwards for mankind……. FROM-Big Journalism Obama’s War on Science: Trillions for a Hoax, but Not One Cent for NASA’s Moon Mission by [...]
Do not fear. Nixon cut the space program too. We will overcome this fellow; hang in there. 9 short months. Less than a pregnancy. Deep breathes and on election night we will witness the birth of our nation once again with respect for individual liberty, states rights and fiscal sanity.
Great article! We don’t need no stinkin science! One of the few things at a moment in time (Mercury through Apollo) where government actually did something well. Now NASA in many ways is a bloated self serving beaurocracy in search of a mission.
You brought back memories of flying, when I was a kid we wore suits on the plane.
This spoof of climate science may be of interest:
http://climaterealists.com/?id=4960
Very true. And "Useful Idiots" is the title of an excellent book by Mona Charen. Shalom!
Who is that? The Republican politicians?
I like the metaphor. The United States is pregnant with peaceful revolution.
Of course, the statists will do their damnedest to abort her. That's why the Tea Partiers have to keep up their sidewalk counseling, and the new media has to keep track of her gestation show the public her beautiful fact scans.
I like the metaphor. The United States is pregnant with peaceful revolution.
Of course, the statists will do their damnedest to abort her. That's why the Tea Partiers have to keep up their sidewalk counseling, and the new media has to keep track of her gestation show the public her beautiful fact scans.
Dear gmh6419
I reckon you stand with AL gore and OSAMA BIN LADDEN, as a true believer. Be carefull of the company you keep for it is how the world see's you.
Fonz, Fonz, Fonz…..what's the trouble? No friends? Thought you could "join up" with the Jew-bashers just to belong to a group?
Don't be a "Useful Idiot", Fonz.
Terrorism doesn't disappear if we don't support Israel. The Jihadists also want Spain back (they lost it in the 1200's) and if you knew any history you'd understand the jihad doesn't stop until Sharia is the only law in the world.
You are pathetic, but I'm praying for you. Shalom! (from an Irish barbarian)
From David, an Atlas reader and engineer, who emailed me this eyeopner on NASA::
No preview!
argh
s/b eye opener
Zionism doesn't stop until "Greater Israel" is achieved. They started this nonsense and we pay a huge cost for aligning ourselves on one side where we have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
Here is a fact. Michael Mann's famous "HOCKEY STICK" graph is exellent scientific proof that thermometers are more accurate than tree rings for measuring temperature.
WYATT
Well yeahhhhh. I mean name just one thing that the space program has ever given back to us. There is nothing we use every day or most days of any value. However if we invest trillions of dollars in crap and tax look at all the good we can do for the poor nations, which are in large part black and many Muslim, who woulda thunk that.
We can never raise third world countries into civillized nations but we most assuredly can reduce ours to third world status. Thereby eliminating all that third world jealousy stuff.
Didn't even notice the typo…You are fine writer with much to say… Keep it up…
Your derangement knows no bounds…I had a mutt named "The Fonz"…I put him down,, 'cause he was sick and out lived his usefulness…Getting the picture?
Go TF away and spout your crap over on the all-Nazi all the time site "Stormfront"… You will be welcomed there…
I guess you don't drink TANG? Guess not….But the 3rd world stuff is good…Thumbs up…
The world has now seen anthropogenic global warming for the fraud that it is. From the IPCC chief hiding data, to the manipulated data at East Anglia’s climate research unit to the manipulated data by a NASA employee, it is clear AGW is just a means to fleece the American taxpayer and western nations.
It would be akin to Bernie Madoff still being considered legitimate and receiving taxpayer dollars. Any politician that supports this outrageous fraud should be imprisoned. If Hussein signs any laws based on this blatant scam he should be impeached and imprisoned.
Minority? The vast majority of people believe AGW is a scam which it has been proven to be. But you wouldn't know that since you get your news from MSLSD.
Liberalism and all the stupidity that comes with it has been rejected by the American people, from MA to NJ. Hussein is the product of a momentary lapse of reason. The correction has begun, by 2012 it will be complete and Hussein will be an unemployed national pariah.
This scam is a lot bigger than Obama. The left's been working on this since the late 60's and early 70's. Combine the zealotry of religion with voodoo science, and wrap it all up in a nice social justice bow.
You've really got to hand to it them. They thrive in breaking down society into various groups, pit them against each other, and then pretend to leap to the rescue through the power of government. And this time they've managed to come up with the largest victim group ever – the entire world,
If Cap & Trade can be implimented on the Moon, Obama & Co. are in!
Enjoy your last few months as a majority.
Use the remaining time learning how to fashion a sentence.
To be honest, from an economics stand point, going to the moon doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's not like there's any Unobtainium there.
I was just as thrilled as the next school kid in 1969. And true, it was a big boon to technology. But the biggest reason for that was simply national pride. After Sputnik, we had to prove we were still number 1. Well we did that.
I'd be all for it again, provided there was some financial benefits for all the billions it would cost. But quite frankly, I can't really see any.
Better "Greater Israel" than "All Mighty Islam"
Islam and Nazism are "facebook" friends though.
Dave,
You are partly right. NASA has failed to do much new and impressive in the last three decades. However, in their defense, you can't keep scraping 10 year development programs every 4-6 years and expect to make any progress.
This is an obvious political move. The Congressman who abandoned the Democrats is from Huntsville and NASA Marshall Flight Center. More Chicago thug politics by the current administration.
I'm not sure where you've been since 9/11 but al qieda and the rest of the losers have made it perfectly clear what they want. A world wide caliphate. Even if the US did abandon Israel, it wouldn't stop their hatred for everything western.
See, its not just Israel. They want you either on a prayer rug five times a day kowtowing to their twisted views, or dead. Makes no difference to them.
Without Israel, they'd be able to focus all their attention on the US and the UK.
Give me a break. The return to the moon budget is an insignificant portion of the budget. It pales in comparison to bailing out Wall Street. It has long term returns. Read a history book. Look at the impact discovering the new world had on the history of Western civilization.
America has nothing to gain from siding with democracies over dictators, thugs and monarchs?
What's next on your list of ways of solving the world's problems? Turn over South Korea to the North? Abandon Taiwan to China? How about we just cut to the chase and submit our selves to serfdom? End democracy and freedom, will they be happy then?
"It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" — but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"
Patrick Henry – March 23, 1775
National Administration for Petulant Lefty Causes, Scams and Hoaxes.
VIDEO: Cold keeps Minn. wind turbines from spinning
Wind turbines placed in cities across Minnesota to generate power aren't working because of the cold temperatures.
The Minnesota Municipal Power Association bought 11 turbines for $300,000 each from a company in Palm Springs, Calif.
Special hydraulic fluid designed for colder temperatures was used in the turbines, but it's not working, so neither are the turbines.
There is a plan to heat the fluid, but officials must find a contractor to do the work.
http://kstp.com/news/stories/S1390565.shtml
heh
You can't let a little thing like facts get in the way of science. There's a world to be saved! Grab a ribbon, bracelet, sign, and get out there marching!
It's always darkest before the dawn.
I was going to comment, but I think you took the words right out of my mouth.
At times I find it good practice for dealing with modern liberals in the real world. Gives me a chance to sharpen my sarcasm.
Just don't let them get to you. I read the with amusement. "This is what passes for humor in your world?"
I hear its nice and quiet.
I believe the correct question is where is the proof its occurring? Because scientific evidence is pretty clear, any upward trend in temperatures stopped around 1998, and are now steady or dropping.
Add on top the Climategate emails which specifically state tricks to hide declines, refusal to turn over raw data, despite laws forcing them to do so. And now we find not only did the assertion the Himalayan glaciers would melt by 2035 was a lie – the originator of the quote admits he said purely to create pressure on politicians – and he's just admitted he knew it was false at least a month before Copenhagen.
I'm really having a hard time to trying to find any proof that any of this warming ever occurred.
Let me get this straight- In your strange universe, the proportional response to a accidental engagement of our ship during a time of war between Israel and Egypt, where Israeli planes and torpedo boats mistook our vessel for an Egyptian one reported in the exact same area, is to nuke a city of over a million people?
Okay, any further responses to this vile idiot are useless. Just subtract a point and leave it at that.
Crack heads are probably more honest. At least they don't expect you to thank them when they rob you.
There are somethings government does well, not many, but some. When the deliverables are very narrowly defined, government can come through. Put one pair of boots on the moon and bring them back safely. Period. That's it.
It's the very grand and hazy missions that government truly sucks at – ending poverty, curing cancer, controlling the weather, that's what they truly suck at.
Israel is just an excuse for their ambitions to expand Islam into every corner of the globe. Israel happens to be a very productive ally of our. Much of our most advanced weaponry was co-developed by the Israelis. Israel is also a leader in computer sciences and has more Nobel laureates per capita (for what that's worth after Obama got the peace prize), than any other country on Earth.
Pretty much, yep.
Follow the money. Obama wants a gazillion tons of it. And it's all going to come from We The People.
If they wanted that, the US would be a Muslim country from the start. Muslims have been around far longer than the US….far longer than anything recognizable in Europe as it is now. If we weren't invading their countries they wouldn't even know we exist most likely. Like the stupid Americans interviewed on the street that don't know where other countries are on a map.
Why aren't they attacking Switzerland and Brazil? Why not ROME – the very SYMBOL of Christianity?????? See, your views don't hold up to reality.
If you are concerned about Muslims END IMMIGRATION. Bush allowed massive immigration in to the US – why?
Why are Nazis tolerated here?
Like Cuba was an excuse for our ambitions to take over the world during the Cold War?
Imagine a USSR-backed Cuba that was invading Florida. Think USSR's backing of Cuba wouldn't have been an issue? Fool. The US gains nothing from all this money we waste on Israel and it costs us far more as it buys us enemies.
If they are so great, then they don't need our money. See, your side is completely indefensible which is why your kind usually resorts to name-calling.
It was to be expected. This one is a mulsim sympathizer communist who will see anything American as bad. He’s the kind that would have planted a rainbow flag on the Moon instead of the one that reminds all others that, no, they can’t put their own there. And who wouldn’t approve of a trip to Mars unless under the auspices of the united nations.
This little number is the Anti Ayn Rand, anti America, anti Freedom and anti decency.
We haven’t even seen half of it.
If we give him the chance even Orwell would say “hey! . . . Why didn’t I think of that?”
And there in lies their true hatred for Israel.
It's kind of hard to convince your restive populations that massive oppression and crushing tyranny are necessary for survival when a relatively democratic society thrives in their midst.
The only way to do it is to demonize Israel, lie about them and tell the people 'Look at Gaza and the West Bank. That's what you all will be if we don't protect you from them, and that requires oppression, corruption, violence and death.
My favorite one is the new low energy traffic signals Green Bay, Wi. They don't generate enough heat in severe cold to melt the snow.
What a hoot.
Nothing in your first paragraph makes any sense.
As to your claim that Islam predates any modern Western establishment, you have no knowledge of history. The Catholic church predates Islam by over six hundred years. Islam from its beginning was an Imperialistic enterprise which wrested and forcibly converted the Middle east from Christian and Zoroastrian hands, and continued to do so through North Africa and Spain until turned back by Byzantine and Frankish armies.
The stated goals of every Jihadist does not end with the destruction of Israel, but the eventual spiritual and political domination of Islam over the entire world.
Stop bitching about name calling. You're the one who advocated the nuking of an entire city for an attack on a single ship. You are a vile idiot and a poor debater.
Miss Geller (and the majority of you, posters on this wonderful website), please don't have any kids. Your gene pool has to die with you. I will gladly give you money if you promise not to have any kids. Let me know. If you respond with yes, I will give you my contact info and we can take it from there. Don't forget: Your gene pool has to end with you. That is the only condition.
Wow, hard to know where to begin with, there's so much bat shit crazy stuff in that response.
First off, that is exactly what they want (the violent radicals), they've made no secret about their desires. Bin loosers first real goal is to topple the Saudi family assume the leadership, and there by gain control of the Muslim holy sites, and there by – he assumes – control of Islam itself.
I have no idea what your statement about America being formed as a Muslim country from the start. I assume its moon bat droppings. Adherence to radical ideology of world wide domination and oppression really weren't much of mach for the British navy.
And you really should check with the news more often before coming up with positions. There's been a lot of terror cells rounded up in Italy, including one attempt to poison Rome's water supply because its the seat of the Vatican. I also noticed you skipped naming countries like Spain, the UK, Indonesia, Bali and others where they were and are massive terrorist attacks. Selective facts is a really amateurish tactic by modern liberals. Its so easy to prove wrong.
And what a wonderful ending, with absolutely no facts, reason and logic, you decide to leap to the conclusion that I must be against Muslim immigration. I do remember how wonderful that felt back in the day when I was a modern liberal attacking anyone who didn't tow the party line. Ah, those were the days. But alas, it wasn't as satisfying as the truth. I've not written one thing about ending any immigration to the US. You see we need immigrants. After a few generations Americans tend to become lazy, demanding things from government, expecting the country owes us a living. We need the life blood of immigrants from oppressive regimes, they understand true freedom and liberty, in a way no modern liberal ever could. They know the real difference between a government that gasses tens of thousands in order to preserve a dictators rules, and the supposed oppression of having to drive past a Walmart.
Is this really the best you can come up? Because I have to tell you, I'm not impressed. My teenage daughter puts up a better debate than this argument.
I sent him over to STORMFRONT, where his ilk spew their bile 24/7, but he insists on hanging around to get pounded by "edSki"…Oh well….I
n my world, here on the Plains, Nazis are the equivalent of child rapists…There is no hope, no redemption, and no 1st Ammendment, so we just throw 'em in the rattler pit where their own kind make short work of 'em….
it is an amazing thing, Ed- just why we seem hell bent on NOT producing energy for the US…
NAPLCSH …doesn't really roll off the tounge…Or spell anything pithy…Try again..
The President did not kill the NASA funding. The economy, thanks to George Bush and his fictional war killed NASA. President Obama is trying to do what Republicans have always claimed they've wanted to do — be fiscally responsible. My SO is a flight controller at NASA and these cuts effect us personally. If you really want to know where to lay blame, please check out the recent voting record of Sen. John Cornyn. HE voted *against* NASA's proposed budget. As the Senator for Texas, he represents their interests. Or PRETENDS he does. It sends a powerful and damaging signal when the Sen. for Texas behaves in such a partisan and self-defeating manner.
I'll be happy to review the internal details of the proposed moon mission with you and the reasons why it has not gone forward but the President has not made this decision on the Constellation program unilaterally. I can not let you suggest that. Further, the decision has been made to support private industry in helping them partner with NASA to achieve our space goals. I can't imagine that you would have difficulty with private industry jobs and scientific advances being made by the private sector that will ultimately benefit all of the United States–??
This is such a serious mistake that I cannot bring myself to be sarcastic about it.
Space exploration IS the future; pouring tax dollars down social engineering ratholes is almost a 100% waste.
Dropping out of the competition to develop space capabilities deliberately cripples our technological edge, or what's left of it. We're handing the advantage to others and abandoning our children to the threat of oppression from unaccountable regimes that will develop new capabilities and technologies.
It's unforgivable and cannot be allowed to happen.
RG, it's you and your cohorts who will do anything for a buck, not us, but if you have some extra disposable income, send it to the Salvation Army, so they can continue their good works in Haiti and elsewhere around the world.
We need one or all of the MSM alphabet channels to get honest and tell the truth…Until the drones hear it from one of their own, they will remain in the dark and clueless ….
Which one will it be???
"Thank God all you people in are in minority and will continue to be."
Keep believing those MSNBC polls, gmh6419. Meanwhile, the independents and actual rational Dems will continue their seismic move to the right and come November, we'll see who's in the minority.
I think most of the people who frequent this forum are willing to be convinced that climate change is a reality if we're presented with information developed by reputable scientists in fora not hijacked by agenda driven NGOs; what we're unwilling to accept is the alleged "findings" of corrupt scientists in league with multilateral cabals angling for financial and trade advantage.
It has turned out that the climate change coreligionists are their own worst enemies. If climate change is a reality and if our futures depend on doing something about it, then they are the main culprits in setting back any necessary progress through their lies and deceitful tactics.
FONZ——Of all the post on all the sites, your post about ISRAEL has to be the most IDIOTIC, IGNORANT, STUPIDEST, DIMWITTED post ever posted on any site.
YOU must live in a bubble or too high to have a clear thought.
That one's easy. See, communism, socialism, Marxism, what ever you want to call it, is proven to be the lie it is, every day America exists.
It's nearly impossible to convince the world's population that tyranny and brutal oppression are the next step in social evolution while we freedom loving, gun and religion clinging, Americans enjoy the highest standard of living in history of the world. Step one, take America down several hundred thousands pegs.
Know what was one of the many different things that helped bring down the old USSR? The TV show Dallas. For decades the USSR government was distributing images of America from the Depression. They were propaganda to convince the citizens that as bad as life was, it was even worse in America.
Then along came satellite TV, blue jeans and J.R. Ewing. And the Russian people said "What the f***? That's how they live in America? I want a piece of that!"
And the rest is history.
FONZ… I dare you to watch this vid….He could be the father you never had but really really need…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUX6wV1lBQ&fe...
Agreed. But I have to start some where.
WEENIE
World Eco-Environmentalists National Institute of Ethics?
BUTTHEAD
Bureau of Uber Technical Technicians, Heating Enthusiasts, Administrators & Dorks?
NAUSEA
National American United States Eco-Androids?
Zionism and Naziism are more related. Muslims don't call themselves the "Chosen Ones."
She is hot. I used to read her blog from time to time back when I used to surf over at Littlegreenfootballs.com.
But then something really weird starting going over there and the whole place seemed to change. And having been born with a problem with authority, it was only a matter of time till I got kicked out too. As I understand it, she was one of the first and biggest to get booted by Johnson.
Either way, the internet is a big place, and if she's posting over her at BJ (I just love typing that), all the better!
We OVERTHREW a democracy and put in a dictatorial monarch – the Shah of Iran
We support the monarchy in Saudi Arabia
We support the thugs of Israel (btw, MORE has just come out about their thuggish behavior – http://uruknet.com/index.php?p=m62748&hd=&... )
We opposed democracy in Gaza – not just didn't support them, actually OPPOSED them!
So much for your moral attitude. You should be ashamed of yourself.
What's next on your list of ways of solving the world's problems? Turn over South Korea to the North? Why is it ok for us to turn over Palestine to a bunch of interloper thugs calling themselves Jews?
Abandon Taiwan to China?
Bush did that – opposed entry of Taiwan to the UN. This is the same coward Bush that did nothing when China forced down one of our military planes!
Thrives? Yeah with enormous quantities of money and goods pouring in to it from the US AND Europe! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was no accident. The torpedo boats showing up later to try to destroy the evidence only proves that (if the low-flying recon planes before the attack alone didn't!) Why don't you listen to those who were THERE? Are you loyal to the US or Israel?
Every day now we see how falsified data and data disputing claims of global warming have been hidden or destroyed. They fact we will spend billions on a hoax, a scam/con is beyond belief. Those who follow this insanity are the same type of nutjobs who believe 9/11 was because of Bush or that this global warming is real….insane. Yet Obama will nuetrualize NASA that ACUTALLY does something for this obsensity of madness called Global Warming. China, Russia, India and Japan wont..they will be on the moon looking down on us with laughter. Dumb, stupid Americans. This is a national disgrace.
The modern equivalent to Nazis are the Israelis. You worried about a message board? Billions of our tax dollars going to a Nazi regime is a bigger issue.
Fantastic, so when another space shuttle breaks up over Texas, we know who to blame. Our astronauts do not deserve to be stuck flying in 30 year old machines that are becoming more and more obsolete.
Wait…..does the moon exist? I guess it still does. There's no money to be made in denying it's really there.
Fonz come on you have Jumped The Shark. Your blathering is annoying. Which is probably what you want. So we should stop supporting the only democracy in that region. Oh yeah for cheaper gas. I thought someone like you would be riding a bicycle to work. Anyway i am convinced you don't believe the crap you post. You just need something to do living in moms basement with all that sexual frustration because no woman or man will have you.
More mocked and derided rather than tolerated.
get from China to help him win the election?
Probably as much as Clinton. Don't forget Clinton sold the Chicoms computer technology that advanced them 30 years for a bag of cash Gore received in that Buddhists temple among other bags of cash from other places. Clinton is as much a traitor as Odumbo. But the memories of the people in this country are very short. Look at how they all forgot 9/11. Our generation sucks. Not all but we sure have screwed up what my dad fought for.
Your misinformation is annoying. The closest democracy to "Israel" is GAZA, fool. There would be more democracies if our fascist government wasn't overthrowing them in favor of puppet dictatorships like we did with Operation Ajax. But there is Turkey and Iran, too. Unfortunately we send a pretty mixed message when we support military juntas in Pakistan and monarchies in Saudi Arabia.
I believe there was a "nuke Tel Aviv" mentioned before, hmm… Anti-Semitic bluster I guess.
Frankly, Israel's the only country in the Middle East worth being loyal to. And if America were to be reduced to little more than the likes of you, I would gladly take up arms in its defense.
You can cite OBL if you like, but he himself says we are enemies for our support of Israel! oooops.
Israel has attacked us several times – Iran never has. So, nuking Tel Aviv seems more appropos than the Zionist nutjobs here saying we need to attack Iran for following the law (which Israel is NOT.)
Let me see if I get this right. Because I'm damn glad to have the great luck to be born and live in America, and acknowledge that fact, I am now guilty of everything every American ever did through out history?
Not buying it. That was one of the things that got me thrown out of the left. I refused to personally admonish myself for being part of the slave owning, world destroying, out of control capitalist monster. I wasn't alive in the 50's when that went on with the Shah, and I sure as hell ain't taking responsibility for it now.
I agree, the US should have nothing to do with Saudis. Nor should America have anything to do with any communist, dictatorship, or any other form of government that is not arguably responsible to the will of the citizens. Democracies tend to be a lot more stable and peaceful because their government must answer to the people, and the people are the ones who pay the price for wars.
What happened and is happening in Gaza is no more democracy than Iran, Arabia or Egypt. They just use the code words from democracies like democracy, voting, human rights, and once the cameras are off, the guns come out. The entire concept on ignoring hamas in Gaza was to push policy rather than force.
Try and follow this, is pretty simple, but still put in an effort, please. Gaza holds elections. The people vote. They elect a maniacal government who vows to destroy Israel, and then sets about trying to do it. Other free democracies see this, and do not help hamas meet their goal. Citizens of Gaza suffer international isolation. And next time they vote (which won't happen, thanks to hamas) they will think "Hmmmm, maybe that wasn't such a good idea, maybe I should vote for the politicians who p[promise to work for peace and stability?"
That is how democracies work. The will of the people working against entrenched political ideologies, for their own benefit, and it just so happens to turn out, it works for the greater good.
I have no reason to be ashamed. Piss off. The PLA and hamas control 80% of all jobs, food and housing in their areas. The people are slaves to them, they either go along, or have nothing. That's not democracy, that's socialism, communism, what ever name they try to foist on it.
I'm not a real big fan of either Bush. Especially the elder one whom I refer to as the coward. You don't tell Iraqi Shiites and Kurds you support their open rebellion against saddam, and then feed them to the dogs because your advisers say an occupation would be messy. There's no justification on earth for that.
But as for Taiwan, the US government has their own opinions and policies towards them, that does not mean I agree with them.
And that's a tiring kind of modern liberal attack that used to irk me even when I was on the left. it goes a little something like this:
You disagree with me on one subject, therefore everything I disagree with, you must agree.
In logical terms that comes out to "A = B : B = C"
I could be wrong, its getting to be a long time since college, but what it means since A = B, therefore B must equal C. Which is illogical, because it infers that A = C with no proof.
Oh boy! Let's see if I get excited enough to hit even more exclamation points than you!
How many billions have been poured into the West Bank and Gaza by the US and Europe?
Guess how many billions Arafat was worth when he finally did the world a favor and assumed room temperature? I heard $3 billion.
So you're point is exactly……what?
Who are the patriots in Iran now? The government or the marchers in the street?
I'm guessing you're forgetting Iranian support of international terrorism, the Iranian attacks on American ships in the Persian Gulf and Iranian mining of said gulf which resulted in the sinking of an entire guided missile frigate.
Absorb for a second the logic of your mythical Nazi-like Zionists. If the only thing propping up their poor Arab abusing, neighbor invading, criminal nation is US military and financial assistance, which according to you we give in spades, why the hell would they purposefully attack us on multiple occasions. According to you we're they're proverbial sugar daddy. It makes absolutely no sense.
Democracy in Iran? LMAO. Turkey's a Democracy precisely because it's founder intended it to be a secular republic, not a Muslim one. Turkey's successes though are in danger precisely because of fundamentalist Muslims you seem keen to praise left and right while you demonize Jews.
And Gaza was a paradise during it's Occupation by Israel compared to the utter refuse dump it's residents have made it after their withdrawal.
here's a few cost saving measures:
1. Ground piglosi…no more use of military aircraft or sending the taxpayer the tab for expensive booze…
2. Ground dear leader….let him use "go to meeting" from the oval office" after all this is the digital age…he can also send video messages and have them put on DVD to be shown where ever he needs to spew his hate America rhetoric….
3. We have 237 millionaires in congress…they certainly don't need those salaries now do they…so effective immediately We The People cap their salaries at $1 per year.
4. Senator Coburn has identified over 600 duplicate programs…consolidate or eliminate them…..
feel free to add to the list….
Again, I think if you actually consult documented statements from the looser, you will find that he never mentioned Israel or Palestinians till around 2003 or so. I don't have the exact date in front of me, but I'm sure you can find it fairly easy, it's called google.com.
He didn't bring it up till it became apparent America would not abandon Iraq or Afghanistan. I guess he decided to lower his recruitment requirements.
And if you put an end to immigration in America, you will put an end to America. America is as much a concept as it is a physical location. Freedom and liberty aren't things the government issues We The People every month in the form of a check. We need Americans who understand that.
If you're one of those anti-immigrant people, then we're just never going to agree on the subject. I'm the grandson of immigrant shoe makers and farmers. First one in my family to get a college degree. I perfectly understand the American dream. I know the difference between a hand out and a hand up. I'm convinced most immigrants come looking for the latter.
You are wrong – it was mentioned from the beginning.
And if you put an end to immigration in America, you will put an end to America.
You people have some really stupid ideas. Yeah, not being able to function as a country with everyone speaking a different language and with conflicting cultures is not America but it is the dream of the globalists who really want to destroy the US (yeah, let's see, shephards in Afghanistan are a threat yet international bankers aren't, RIGHT?)
America is as much a concept as it is a physical location.
Then these foreigners should make America where they are. How about this – move these foreigners to ISRAEL since we are told they are like the US (to justify our tax dollars given to them.) ISRAEL doesn't allow such massive immigration of people who are CONTRARY to their goals, why should we?
We need Americans who understand that.
The Third World transplants we are getting have no concept of "freedom" like you think. You really have a propagandized version of immigration. Hey, go to some place where all these immigrants seem to be dumped off – GO THERE. Tell us all if it seems like America there. I think you have a very sheltered life.
I'm convinced most immigrants come looking for the latter.
More bumper sticker politics. The answer is SIMPLE. Let EVERYONE come to the US – why have controls, eh? The reason there are controls is because EVERYONE knows the more immigrants we have, the lower standard of living. So they try to boil the frog (American people) slowly until they wake up in the Third World country that was planned all along.
Good god, that's the one that REALLY annoys me. Why the FUCK do they insist, in the face of all evidence, that embryonic stem cell research is more important? The only way it makes sense is if they secretly want to destroy nascent human lives… I wonder if it's linked to the pro-"choice" movement in any way. Probably part of their "it's just a lump of tissue till it's born" disinformation campaign.
The attacks on 9/11 are only an indictment on our immigration policy. They don't justify randomly bombing other countries, they justify closing the border.
Still need work….I'm sending it over the the Ministry of ACRONYMS on Monday….
Apollo Program – $25 Billion
US aid to Israel – OVER $100 Billion!
Amen to that…
But who is "Johnson".?..Not "THE" Johnson???
There is a religious symbol on Israel's flag, so it is a Jew Republic at best.
Israel has never withdrawn from Gaza – they have held an illegal blockade on them.
You people have some really stupid ideas.
And that's your problem. To you I am some "people."
No Sir, I'm an individual.
At this point I expect you'll call me racist. It's how "you people" operate.
Normally I would leave it off there, a nice pith rebuttal, but this part deserves a reply.
The Third World transplants we are getting have no concept of "freedom" like you think. You really have a propagandized version of immigration.
I believe it was Frederick Douglass who said there is not a man under God's heaven who doesn't know that slavery is wrong for them.
In my opinion, you vastly underestimate humans.
'the pursuit of happiness'…
What a concept. Allowing free men to find their own best destinies. Seems so simple, elegant- and right. It is now not only under threat, but in peril of extinction. That must not be allowed to happen…
Down the hall, hang a left at the ministry of silly walks.
Charles Johnson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lgf
Charles Johnson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lgf
It won't. Thomas Jefferson opened a Pandora's Box.
The British Union Jack has St. George's Cross and St. Andrew's Cross overlapped. I dare you to call that a "Christian" nation anymore.
Yeah, and Gaza somehow finds enough materiel to build rockets and fire them into Israeli neighborhoods. That's some blockade.
The Space Shuttles suck, anyway — not only are they getting rickety, they're inefficient as hell. The Saturn Five needed $5,000 worth of fuel for every pound of cargo it was to carry into space. Pretty expensive, right? Wrong: it costs us six times that amount to launch the same cargo aboard the Shuttle.
Our obsolete technology is better than our cutting edge.
I was willing to tolerate him as basically just another high-minded-yet-incompetent Democrat, essentially a revividus of Jimmy Carter, but killing the space program really put me over the top. I'm…I can't even really express how disgusted I am at throwing away the billions in technology development that we've already spent for absolutely no reason. As of next year, the US will no longer be the leader in manned space flight, we'll be tied for third place with France. Assuming O. gets a second term, there won't be anyone in space for a decade or more, and we'll be spending the rest of my life trying to catch up.
Carter did something similar, which really enraged the Soviets at the time, but not nearly this devestatingly. I don't understand it. Why do Democrats hate space so much?
Fret not for long. Liberty is making a comeback.
your mouth to God's ears. One can only hope…
Nigeria
One would think this would be a slam dunk for the Dems. They get to spend BILLIONS of tax payer dollars, and they can ACTUALLY get jobs for people.
During the hey day of Moon flights, there were over 400,000 jobs DIRECTLY related to getting to the Moon with several million of non directly related jobs, not too mention the beginnings of the technology we enjoy today. Without the Moon shots of the 60;s, we won't have Blackberries ands cellphones as we do or safer aviation just to name TWO things that we DIRECTLY benefited from going to the Moon.
I just don't get these people. Guess that is why I am an independent now and no longer a Democrat.
Wrong again – as usual: "British authorities finally quelled the rebellion in 1939, Al Husseini fled to neighboring Iraq and helped to orchestrate a 1941 anti-British jihad. As in Jerusalem, the British successfully put down the rebellion and Al Husseini fled to Nazi Germany.
Al Husseini found the Nazis to be a strong ideological match with his anti-Jewish brand of Islam, and schemed with Hitler and the Nazi hierarchy to create a pro-Nazi pan-Arabic form of government in the Middle East."
Then: A majority of Americans, including liberals and many conservatives, elected Barack Obama as President of the United States. They saw a charismatic, well spoken young man with a broad smile for everyone. He campaigned as the anti-Bush, reduce taxes, curb spending, end the wars, open political meetings and on and on, we have all heard the rhetoric over and over and over.
Now: What a disappointment! Obama could have been a great leader if he had only found out where Americans wanted to go before leading them. Instead he was in love with himself, his own ideas and his own voice, and if we don't agree 100% then he resorts to name-calling and passes the buck while he blasts us with cubic miles of hot air. Obama is the perfect example of the Peter-Principal.
Next: Obama is determined to continue pushing his agenda, not America's agenda but HIS agenda. Huge deficits and tax increases, THE STIMULUS FARCE, how are those jobs coming? THE ACORN SCANDAL, taxpayers supporting voter fraud! THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM, fat Al and bogus scientists getting rich while we pay the tab, and worst of all, THE HEALTH CARE SCAM, a continued march toward Socialism.
Obama is convinced that what America needs is… more Obama, so sad.
The Obama Deception – Full length video
http://usataxpayer.org/?0071119896
Corruption in Congress
http://usataxpayer.org/?0037628434
Thank you for this elegant and sad commentary Pamela.
"This is the price of force. This is the price of coercion. This is the price of statism. This is the price of big government. The very idea of America has been subsumed by an enslavement mentality."
When was young. I would watch "The World of Tomorrow" on Walt Disney. I could hardly wait for the year 2000. The progressive left has sucked the very life blood out of our scientific endeavor in the last 60 years for the goal of making the lives of every American man, woman, and child the very same. That is the achievement of the progressive left. And now, their leader puts the capstone on the grave of true science by gutting the last bastion of any conceivable, achievable, scientific endeavor, launching us literally into, not a stone age, but a JUNK AGE. We will live in this age of decaying roads, infrastructure, cities, houses, buildings, and machines, retrofitting for decades to come because 8% of the people who live in America believe we should all be alike even if it kills us, at it is killing us, and they will do anything to get the political power to make that happen. Obama has brought the Alinsky model, with the blessing of 47% of the American people, into the Halls of American government and in just TWELVE MONTHS, the has totally dismantled both our scientific system AND our educational system along with it. He is assaulting us on other fronts as well. I mourn American science and what it could have been. we have set ourselves back at least two hundred years in scientific progression, since 1950, as it now stands.
Too bad really. Golden opportunity to create millions of jobs, advance fusion fuel research, stretch the human condition to unknown lengths. Space, the final frontier, may be the only thing that saves us from total annihilation. Not from AGW (that sh*t it just plain stupid. Unless your a Marxist hell bent on controlling every aspect of life from cradle to grave) but from ourselves. Going to the moon could mean advances in so many facets of human life. Going to other planets may well be the only way to save this planet. Wasn't it like 1,000 different patents, or more that were derived just from the Moon missions? When your priority is enslaving your fellow man, you really don't care much about making his life better.
Ewald, there is a lot more to the Liberty incident than what you said. The recorded tapes of the radio transmissions indicated that the Israelis knew it was an American ship. Some of their pilots even radioed back to base for confirmation to fire on it. I don't guess we will ever know the truth of this tragedy but it stinks.
The modern equivalent to the Nazi party is the Taliban and Venezuela. Both are totalitarian and allow no personal freedom. They are the gov. as well as the court and the church.
Of course the Jew hating leftwing piece of shit doesn't mention that Egypt receives nearly the same amount of aid; it's part of the peace agreement between Israel/Egypt brokered by the US. To Egypt's credit they have behaved so long as the annual payment is made.
Liberal slugs can never be honest.
And ban this nazi piece of shit.
You stupid fuck, Israel completely withdrew from Gaza.
How the Hell is this little Hitler not banned?
Gaza is run by islamic gangsters you wretched swine. You deserve a biblical ass kicking, I just wish I could deliver it.
Yeah, we've been giving the Egyptian army M1 Abrams and F-16s. They're now the most well equipped army in the Middle East after Israel.
Isn't there some way we can close the virtual border to this demented, deranged, and misinformed individual, an obvious product of the Public School Madrasas.
They seem to produce a never ending stream of societal-suicide bombers…Smashing and besmerching everything they come in contact with….
Now go TF away…
I'd swear this site is turning into "Stormfront"…In Germany , you'd all be arrested….
How many billions have been poured into the West Bank and Gaza by the US and Europe?
No billion.
Guess how many billions Arafat was worth when he finally did the world a favor and assumed room temperature? I heard $3 billion.
Well that sounds credible.
There's really no end to what should be cut and cut out….But this is a good start…
The Piglosi abuse is truly gauling and something everyone of meger means can ID with….
I called your bluff. Why not let anyone and everyone in to the US. According to your pro-immigrant view it would be fine. Everyone knows that wouldn't be the case. It would just turn the US in to a 3rd world nation overnight.
In my opinion you don't understand culture which has probably 10 times as much influence on one's quality of life than the laws.
WOW! You sound pissed and passionate….I like that…
Breaks it down for all the drones to disgree with..Like they have any ideas at all…Only what BBObama sez…that's their truth…
SAD….
Attacks in Iranian waters are justified when WE ARE IN THEIR WATERS. See any Iranian ships coming to the US to purposely antagonize us? Ever hear of the Gulf of Tonkin?
You are so naive. Israel has attacked us on several occasions to BLAME ON OTHERS. You see, these parasitical people believe in deception as a way of life. In fact, it is the motto of the Mossad.
In the Lavon Affair they were caught RED HANDED committing false-flag terrorism against American targets in Egypt to get the US to attack Egypt for them. They hoped to blame the attack on the USS Liberty on Egypt as well.
Those rockets are Israeli more than likely. And Hamas held the cease fire despite Israel holding an illegal blockade on Gaza UNTIL Israel invaded Gaza and kidnapped and killed some of their politicians. This was admitted on CNN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4
Those rockets are Israeli more than likely. And Hamas held the cease fire despite Israel holding an illegal blockade on Gaza UNTIL Israel invaded Gaza and kidnapped and killed some of their politicians. This was admitted on CNN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4
Typical terrorist like most Zionists.
Great job shooting yourself in the foot. The ONLY reason we give "nearly" (actually, about 2/3 for a MUCH larger and MUCH poorer nation) as much to Egypt is BECAUSE we give money to Israel. So it is MORE money that Israel costs us. Look it up – Camp David Accords.
Oh come on! Fusion!?!? When I was a kid in the 50's fusion was going to produce free, clean power any year now. I've been a physicist at Fermilab for 41 years. A colleague and friend was a leading fusion experimentalist at Princton's Tokamac. He abandoned that about two decades ago because no one could understand the instabilities and keep them from blowing up the plasma and killing the required density. A few years later fusion science funding in the US was slashed and we even withdrew for a year from ITER, the internation tokamac in France. I talked to him last year after reading that he had been on a DOE review panel on prospects for fusion power. He stated they had not improved in the last two decades.
A much poorer nation with twice the GDP of its neighbor Israel. If we didn't aid Israel the likelihood of war in the Middle East would go up, not down. Israel's dictatorial neighbors would probably pounce on the opportunity and try and carve up the tiny state. And millions of those Arabs, especially those in Gaza and the West Bank whose fate you bemoan, would be caught in the crossfire. The only definite end to this story would be hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Arab dead and wounded, and possibly millions of Jews annihilated in the event of an Israeli defeat.
This is getting kind of funny. So now Hamas is a sort of neighborhood militia whose only concern is the defense of Gaza, and whose charter doesn't call for the destruction of the state of Israel? And Israel purposefully supplied them with rockets to fire on their own civilians?
We can’t have solutions, a crisis is much more fun Rahm told us so!
It's not Iranian waters. International law states that a country's waters extend fifteen miles from their shore, no more. Iran does not have rights to the entire Persian Gulf.
Gulf of Tonkin was in Southeast Asia. You're getting your geography a little mixed up.
gmh6419, you're the challenger, come up with your proof that socalled global warming aka climate change (HA!) is not a hoax, and since you can't even get the correct terminology for teapartier correct I'm not holding my breathe. As for being in the minority – wrong again – people have it as the last of their priorities because they know it's a hoax, see the link to the Pew Report stats in my link above. The global warming hoax was the progressives/marxist's last stance to crush capitalism and you've failed.
What else would one expect from the Head Nanny What's In Charge? Early in his campaign, he called for stopping manned space for 5 years, knowing that would totally end that type of exploration for this country. But never fear! The MSM "journalists" are lined up on their knees waiting for their chance to brew some black tea, so he'll have no problems getting this passed with their full support. Some of them may even have the opportunity to get some cream in their tea! Mmm, mmm, mmm!
Just wait until a near earth object is on a collision course with the earth itself. All the people of earth will be able to do is chant spells, pray to their little contrived gods and bang on animal skinned drums. Earth is doomed without a space program. It's not a matter of IF but WHEN.
Not mixed up – it is another case of the US purposely antagonizing a country to start a war.
Who said anything about the entire Persian Gulf?
Well, yeah the moon mission had to go. Need to "spread around the wealth" to the disadvantaged voters. Every penny counts!
http://hellgazette.blogspot.com/
The ones intercepting Jew "backpacker" saboteurs coming in over the mountains.
"And Israel purposefully supplied them with rockets to fire on their own civilians?"
Israel has a long history of pretending or claiming to be attacked to justify attacking someone else.
Israel threatening its neighbors while carrying out ethnic cleansing increases the likelihood of war. Our support of these ingrates makes us targets. We gain nothing. Israel is the one that regularly violates air space, makes unprovoked attacks on its neighbors, and rattles its sabre (I'm sure you will see them buying oil stocks before doing so and running up oil prices to profit).
So, what does our support do? Drives the oil rich countries under the wing of China who is already gaining economic and military power? What will that do to our oil prices and ECONOMY? Why are we doing this – it makes no sense strategically UNLESS the elites WANT a new World War (which is undoubtedly the case.)
LOL, no I don't drink tang but I am very aware of why it exists. The same reason a great deal of medical equipment, drugs, almost all current electronics exist. Most of all our advanced anything is someway connected to something nasa needed to fly. Not to mention the all important ball point that will write upside down.
Oh yeah, the Clinton's started it alright. Anyone recall how Pres Clinton gave China "permanent trading status" after a history of US giving "conditional trading status" that we were required to renew on a yearly basis and that was dependent of analyzing China's Human Rights record?
Please, I beg you. Go look up where our trade deficit with China was BEFORE Clinton and where it is now. I beg you.
Marxatopia.
Like I said before, trillions spent on something or another but the F-22 and Constellation program get cancelled.
The only thing that could bring me out of my funk, would be a dinner date with Pam Geller……I wanna do the Drifter Mind Meld with her….
Hey "Rich Guy" – one of my kids is a conservative professor at a "Rich Guy's" University, another a lawyer who believes in Tort Reform, and another in business who has told silly greenies, who arrived in his office unannounced wanting money so he'd have a "green certification", to get the h… out of his office. They're married with lots of babies. Oh, and you don't have to pay any of us, you already have via tax dollars, to the racist Margaret Sangers' Planned Parenthood conglomerate who plant their killing machines in unwanted "gene pool" areas. You sound just like her and Hillary…for the most part they have you covered. One day minorities will figure you all out and when that happens good luck to your dreams of utopian gene pools.
I thought I saw Algore trying to light a blowtorch around there last week…
They're not 'tolerated', they're 'tutored', in hopes of educating them, one mind at a time.
The alternative is a heavily censored comments section, and surely you don't desire that?
Kenya
Talk about a meandering, listless piece of junk. Reading this was like listening to some old person rant and rave incoherently about some initial subject and then mention 3 other largely completely unrelated topics within 2-3 minutes.
well said… and 'Bonanza', with it's benevolent capitalist landowner Christian family model was seen by over two BILLION people, and did more to export US values than any other form of media ever invented. 'Baywatch's consumptive consumerish SoCal laissez faire lifestyle made IT the biggest show of the recent era. So much for the rest of the world hating our lifestyles and wanting even more cradle to grave socialism. No, this is a concerted effort by internationalists to 'take out' the US and replace it with an EU based model. And Obama's 'Progressives' are four square behind it…
Yep. There is a world of difference between the rich, ruling elites of world governments who deride America for causing all the world's problems, and the poor who literally die trying to reach America's shores for the opportunity to work four jobs while going to night school, and sending half their pay check back to the hell hole they escaped from.
Give me your weak, your poor, your huddled masses? Give me a break. It takes guts, hard work, and cajoles the size of cinder blocks to leave everything you ever knew for a chance to roll the dice in America, and maybe, just maybe make it.
Regardless of what the President and his controllers, minions and peers say, attempt, or do, I have faith this thought will never stamped out from humanity.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
NAACP….. I know I'm reaching here…
National Assoc to Cap Progress….
If you go with that type of thinking then we can't afford anything. Space exploration should always be a priority because the research and development ends up with hands on real world applications and products. Agreed we need to cut out all the crap first – and if any of these ball-less politicians would advocate, a repeal of the 16th Amendment allowing the institutional crime of income tax – but leave the space program alone.
Not just regulation..Government involvement in any way, shape or form makes everything more expensive. Pell Grants/college tuition…WIC pays for cereal, juice, formula, milk and cheese…compare rates of inflation on those things vs other groceries since WIC began. Everything, everywhere, government costs us a fortune!
So, hey, I already have two kids, but am post-menopausal and done breeding for this lifetime…Doea that count?
The President of the "League of the South", Dr. Michael Hill is correct – the Federal Government is a criminal enterprise or, as a friend of mine from Pennsylvania says, it is "organized crime with a flag on the wall". It is beyond redemption, therefore I do not call for its overthrow but its demise.
Israel threatening its neighbors while carrying out ethnic cleansing increases the likelihood of war.
Too bad for you they aren't doing that.
Begone. Pine, pine over your Nazi heroes' failure.
Right you are Ed!
Why do Democrats hate space so much?
Because they see it as a distraction. They want us to solve ALL our problems on Earth before going into space (we're not ALLOWED to leave the planet before we get this whole global warming thing cleared up). The idea that going into space might be helpful in solving our problems down here seems utterly ludicrous from their ideological point of view.
It's time you admit your love of the Jewish people. It will do you much good.
Those who curse the Jews end up defeated. I'm sure you've noticed – Hitler, The Six-Day War, The Yom Kippur War – Egypt, Syria, Jordan surrendered and Israel gained land -Saddam lobbed rockets into Israel -ended up hung by his own people- Iran threatens and now the Iranian government will be toppled by their own people – Ajmadinedjab is not long for this life….
Fonz for your own health and well-being, give up this sickness – you'll only destroy yourself.
Read your Bible. Start with Genesis. Peace
It's got something to do with their being "The Chosen People", which you mentioned earlier.
Read your Bible – Genesis 28:12-15. No use fighting it.
NASA = wasteful spending.
Obama wants to dismantle the USA's world leading role in EVERYTHING he can before we oust him in 2012. That's why he is actively working on EVERYTHING other than fixing the economy , jobs or any activity that is nation -constructive. ALL of his SENSELESS POLICIES are designed to destroy our political system, our culture, our economy and our nation's competing edge. He and his team of America- haters are in a hurry to accomplish it. America knows it and that is why his popularity is vanishing along with his ambitions to "fundamentally TRANSFORM this nation" (Obama dixit). May God continue to protect our nation from this domestic foe!
I believe Obama has been suckered into the global warming alarmist holy scripture fad like the rest of the politicians, lay persons, academia societys, etc.
At the time of the AGW glory days (which was literally yesterday), it guaranteed votes and grants. But now that it's starting to fall apart brick by brick, I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar that we will soon see all politicians (including Obama) slowly starting to back away from the AGW worshipping alter… one by one by one, the rats will start jumping ship.
In fact, you can already see it happening in mainstream media. A number of newspapers, reporters, blogs, et al, that were once strong AGW proponents and active participants in the public lambasting of AGW skeptics as "deniers, cranks, criminals against humanity, etc" are now easing off on their attacks and attempting to lightly apply a liberal coating of skepticism… all in the name of saving face. Otherwise known as "hedging their bets" and "back peddling".
If any politicians' advisors are worth their weight in the paycheck they receive, they will foresee this coming and advise their bosses accordingly… and quickly.
Pay close attention to the slow transition that's already starting to happen. You'll see it for yourself. It's quite comical really.
B. Hussein Obama – Not the "RIGHT STUFF" . One small commies signiture, one giant destruction of America's greatness.
AAAYYY FONZ
A tad anti-semitic are you. What are you a card carrying member of the TALIBAN! AAAAYYYY!
WYATT
This is probably the most conservative thing Obama has done. Its fiscally responsible and it uses commercial providers instead of Big Government Programs. This change to what NASA is doing does NOT cancel human spaceflight and it does NOT remove the moon from the plans. What it is doing is re-jiggering the plan so it can take advantage of capability that companies like SpaceX and Bigelow Aerospace are doing. Did you know that Bigelow Aerospace already has TWO demonstration space station habs on orbit, that he built and launched himself using his money?
The article linked above does not mention any of the destinations that the Flexible Path option enables. It is based on limited and biased leaks to reporters who don't normally cover space policy and who have vested interested in a few thousand jobs in one district in central Florida.
Here are some more authoritative links that turn down the hyperbole a little and explain what's really going on:
http://galacticlife.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/180/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/20...
http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=24477
http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/01/30/its-silly...
These people are NOT liberal ideologues. Please don't throw away the one chance we have of getting a fiscally responsible NASA that embraces America's capitalist spirit out of a knee jerk reaction against the guy who proposed it. Even a broken clock is right twice a day…
Once again, thank "Law Enforcement" as the great enabler. Or curse them for what they've done to this country. It's your choice. For now, anyway.
From God's will to Jefferson's pen.
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I don't waste my time debating delusional people. Accept reality or go back to poking bears. Makes no difference to me.
You don't understand human nature or economics.
Personally I think reasonable open immigration is doable, there's every reason to take a look at who's coming in. I do the same thing at my front door every day.
But there's an excellent argument to be made for even more open borders than I would think reasonable.
http://reason.com/search?cx=000107342346889757597...
"70 to 80 percent of your fuel to carry your fuel ? even i know there's something wrong with that."
Vmax = V0 – V ln(1 + M/Mo)
There's nothing "wrong" with that. It's called "The Rocket Equation."
I think that turd in the oval orifice should 'Bang Zoom' go the moon. I'm really starting to wonder if the so-called smartest president we've ever had has to count on his fingers. If there was a glacier leaning against the White House, he'd still be pushing this Climate Change scam.
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I appreciate what you say and two things come to mind. One is that the commensurate research programs that NASA was locked into will not necessarily transfer to the private sector programs you are expounding and Obama was not able to crack the corporate proprietary codes that would enable transference of such technology. The second thing that comes to mind is that the our higher educational technologic programs were inextricably linked to the requirements of the space program. There were a lot of grants and scholarships involved. The entire technologic educational landscape will inadvertently change because of this and probably not towards prolific or better. So I hear what you say. I will just miss the intensity of what the space program used to be and what it produced in this country. Now that the space program has been gutted and technologic progress retarded for centuries to come, perhaps the president can utilize some of these "conservative" measures in congress to gut pork barreling, lobbyists, special interest groups. Come to think of it, nah, he wont.
Pilar Rahola is a Spanish politician, journalist and activist and member of the far left. Her articles are published in Spain and throughout some of the most important newspapers in Latin America.
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Why don’t we see demonstrations against Islamic dictatorships in London, Paris, Barcelona?
Or demonstrations against the Burmese dictatorship?
Why aren’t there demonstrations against the enslavement of millions of women who live without any legal protection?
Why aren’t there demonstrations against the use of children as human bombs where there is conflict with Islam?
Why has there been no leadership in support of the victims of Islamic dictatorship in Sudan?
Why is there never any outrage against the acts of terrorism committed against Israel?
Why is there no outcry by the European left against Islamic fanaticism?
Why don’t they defend Israel’s right to exist?
Why confuse support of the Palestinian cause with the defense of Palestinian terrorism?
An finally, the million dollar question: Why is the left in Europe and around the world obsessed with the two most solid democracies, the United States and Israel, and not with the worst dictatorships on the planet? The two most solid democracies, who have suffered the bloodiest attacks of terrorism, and the left doesn’t care.
And then, to the concept of freedom. In every pro Palestinian European forum I hear the left yelling with fervor: “We want freedom for the people!”
Not true. They are never concerned with freedom for the people of Syria or Yemen or Iran or Sudan, or other such nations. And they are never preoccupied when Hammas destroys freedom for the Palestinians. They are only concerned with using the concept of Palestinian freedom as a weapon against Israeli freedom. The resulting consequence of these ideological pathologies is the manipulation of the press.
The international press does major damage when reporting on the question of the Israeli-Palestinian issue. On this topic they don’t inform, they propagandize.
When reporting about Israel the majority of journalists forget the reporter code of ethics. And so, any Israeli act of self-defense becomes a massacre, and any confrontation, genocide. So many stupid things have been written about Israel, that there aren’t any accusations left to level against her.
At the same time, this press never discusses Syrian and Iranian interference in propagating violence against Israel; the indoctrination of children and the corruption of the Palestinians.. And when reporting about victims, every Palestinian casualty is reported as tragedy and every Israeli victim is camouflaged, hidden or reported about with disdain.
And let me add on the topic of the Spanish left. Many are the examples that illustrate the anti-Americanism and anti-Israeli sentiments that define the Spanish left. For example, one of the leftist parties in Spain has just expelled one of its members for creating a pro-Israel website. I quote from the expulsion document: “Our friends are the people of Iran, Libya and Venezuela, oppressed by imperialism, and not a Nazi state like Israel.”
In another example, the socialist mayor of Campozuelos changed Shoah Day, commemorating the victims of the Holocaust, with Palestinian Nabka Day, which mourns the establishment of the State of Israel, thus showing contempt for the six million European Jews murdered in the Holocaust.
Or in my native city of Barcelona, the city council decided to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the creation of the State of Israel, by having a week of solidarity with the Palestinian people. Thus, they invited Leila Khaled, a noted terrorist from the 70’s and current leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a terrorist organization so described by the European Union, which promotes the use of bombs against Israel.
This politically correct way of thinking has even polluted the speeches of president Zapatero. His foreign policy falls within the lunatic left, and on issues of the Middle East he is unequivocally pro Arab. I can assure you that in private, Zapatero places on Israel the blame for the conflict in the Middle East, and the policies of foreign minister Moratinos reflect this. The fact that Zapatero chose to wear a kafiah in the midst of the Lebanon conflict is no coincidence; it’s a symbol.
Spain has suffered the worst terrorist attack in Europe and it is in the crosshairs of every Islamic terrorist organization. As I wrote before, they kill us will cell phones hooked to satellites connected to the Middle Ages. An yet the Spanish left is the most anti Israeli in the world.
And then it says it is anti Israeli because of solidarity. This is the madness I want to denounce in this conference.
Conclusion:
I am not Jewish. Ideologically I am left and by profession a journalist. Why am I not anti Israeli like my colleagues? Because as a non-Jew I have the historical responsibility to fight against Jewish hatred and currently against the hatred for their historic homeland, Israel. To fight against anti-Semitism is not the duty of the Jews, it is the duty of the non-Jews.
As a journalist it is my duty to search for the truth beyond prejudice, lies and manipulations. The truth about Israel is not told. As a person from the left who loves progress, I am obligated to defend liberty, culture, civic education for children, coexistence and the laws that the Tablets of the Covenant made into universal principles.
Principles that Islamic fundamentalism systematically destroys. That is to say that as a non-Jew, journalist and lefty I have a triple moral duty with Israel, because if Israel is destroyed, liberty, modernity and culture will be destroyed too.
The struggle of Israel, even if the world doesn’t want to accept it, is the struggle of the world.
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Just ask yourself, "What would Marx do?"
There's a dark horse or two in the race, Stan. My favorite is at focusfusion.org — if it pans out in the next couple of years, within 5 years, licensing of a design for world-wide manufacture of a prefab 5MW generator will be in full swing. Shortly thereafter, electrical capacity will be surging, at 1/20 of the cost of best current NA retail prices.
The effect will be electric, an economic thunderbolt!
Amongst the issues it will resolve: pollution, poverty, water supply, space access, food supply, and "Global Warming, The Scam".
Hold onto your bippy. We'll be back on the Moon and beyond in no time.
The age of Socialist Science, like Lysenko-ism. Only the approved conclusions will be drawn! Only the politically useful investigations will be funded! All-Hail the All-Knowing One(s)!
Politically Corrected Science is a fuddled Fool.
Mr. Engineer;
Not the only known solution. As I posted elsewhere, there are a few dark horses. My favorite is focusfusion.org ; if that project succeeds, within a couple of years, work will begin on final design of a $250K generator by about 2015, to be licensed to all comers for world-wide manufacture. It will use hydrogen-boron, in a small pulsed fusion chamber, and put out about 5MW — to be sold at 1/20 to 1/10 of current best NA retail pricing. Totally clean, non-radioactive, able to be sited anywhere that remote monitoring and a few days a year access is possible for refueling and maintenance.
It will totally revise the planet's energy equations and 'eliminate world hunger', not to mention making space access cheap and easy. Disruptive tech with bells on.
The Green Dreams of a bucolic, impoverished feudal future will blow away in the breeze.
Obama has ALWAYS been operating beyond his level of competence. He's one of those who discovered how to leverage appearance to get others to cover for him. From his do-nothing 'smile and nod' drop-in Presidency of the Hahvahd Law Society, to his stint lecturing in college in Illinois (where a compatriot describes him as being "good at emulating the mannerisms of an intellectual"), to his no-background promotion by Ayers to the Chairmanship of the Annenberg Foundation, to being gifted with an Illinois Senatorship using dirty politics, to his pointless half-year or less in the Senate voting "Present", to his blatantly illegally funded and stage-managed POTUS run, he's been Mr. Sham-Wow on Wheels the whole way. Time for him to be Slap-Chopped.
oh god! we're all getting scammed!!!
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Morning, I have a habit of surfing the net and found this journal. All in all, it’s is very good, I, for one am very fond of the graphics. If you get a second can you shoot me an email at bobbymc@live.com and let me know who designed it or where you found it? Thanks!
“The president will also ask the panel to look at the U.S. tax code and has not ruled out tax increases for the middle class should the commission deem them necessary” So here is the report: “get rid of a few programs, put a symbolic freeze on others (exclude everything even remotely connected to transfer or safe-the-environment payments) and raise taxes.”
Heya good update. Did you catch last nights Niel Cuvuto? That is some great blogging material lol. Laters
Yes, NASACAR. We need to sell advertising on the outside of our space vehicles to help defray expenses. The new acronym would stand for National Air and Space Administration Commercial Advertising Revenue.
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Why is the right so anti intellectual and anti science? You betcha the dinosaurs were being chased by cave men only five thousand years ago. Evolution? Didn't happen. Except of course that makes antibiotic drug resistance hard to account for. Global warming? Just a few thousand climate scientists and the ALL of the major science academies in the world subscribe to it. Stem cell Hoax? Yeah nothing good come out of pure research. This is by far and away the most ignorant bunch of know nothings I have ever seen gathered in one place. Good luck to you idiots and God help to the rest of us from your ignorance.
You have it right on the head. USA is just a stepping stone to the U.N. And to think there are people who support him.
I have to say, I love this blog. Maybe you could let me know how I can go about subscribing with it? By the way I discovered this site through Yahoo.
What it all boils down to is that we are being asked to sacrifice our children to the Molech God to save the planet earth from the climate boogeyman.
Hope for You. Truth from…
Carol Rosin – Disclosure Project (nederlands ondertiteld)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaTgOSHbBEI
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