Of all the subversive acts ever in the history of the United States of America, and even during this post-American Administration, this one is the killer: Barack Obama plans to remove all discussion of Islam and jihad from the central document of our national security strategy. Under Bush, the National Security Strategy document declared:
The struggle against militant Islamic radicalism is the great ideological conflict of the early years of the 21st century.
Now it won’t say anything about “militant Islamic radicalism” at all.

According to the Associated Press, Obama is trying to “change not just how the United States talks to Muslim nations, but also what it talks to them about, from health care and science to business startups and education.” Jihad Watch director Robert Spencer says that this shift “reflects Obama’s core assumption that the jihad against the United States is our fault, and can be quelled by our overtures of good will to the Islamic world.” In other words, if we would just be nice to Muslim countries and talk to them about health care and education instead of fighting against jihad terrorism, they will stop hating us. Spencer adds:
This is based on the further assumption that there is no Islamic imperative to jihad against unbelievers simply because they are unbelievers.
But there is. And the jihad president can’t wish it away.
This is hardly the only way that Obama is playing into the hands of the jihadis who want to destroy the United States. Benny Avni reported today in the New York Post that “that Hamas officials say Obama is different from all his predecessors.” They can say that again. Avni quotes the Hamas deputy foreign minister, Ahmed Yussuf, crowing: “We believe Hamas’ message is reaching its destination” – that is, the Obama White House.

That boast came after a senior Palestinian Authority official claimed, according to Aaron Klein of WorldNetDaily, that the Obama administration encouraged violent Palestinian protests against Israel so as to force the Israelis to concede East Jerusalem to the Palestinians. And it was reported in late March at ForeignPolicy.com that General David Petraeus, head of United States Central Command, wanted to place American troops in the West Bank and Gaza – to protect the Palestinians.
Petraeus denied this, but the whole thing was suspicious. Why did these stories, if false, all go in the same direction? No one was leaking stories about Obama secretly helping Israel. So is anyone really advancing this outrageous idea – the invasion of an ally – in the Obama White House? Obama’s adviser Samantha Power suggested this same thing years ago, so why would it be beyond the realm of possibility that the idea could come up again now, in a White House more hostile to Israel than any since the Jewish State was founded?

And of course it is a matter of public record that Obama shamed and humiliated the Jewish Prime Minister of Israel, while continuing to demand that we respect sharia and Islam. He has blocked the delivery of weapons to Israel, while talking about giving Palestinian Muslims a military shield against the Israelis.
Jewish self-defense against virulent, genocidal Islamic anti-Semitism repels the putative leader of the free world.
Sarah Palin said it best:
Once again, the Obama Administration is missing the boat on a very, very important issue. They need to go back to the basics and acknowledge Palestinian leaders have not progressed any peace process since President Obama was elected. As Israel makes concessions (and is still criticized by the Obama Administration), Arab leaders are just sitting back waiting for the White House to further pressure Israel. The Obama Administration needs to open its eyes and recognize that it is only Iran and her terrorist allies that benefit from this manufactured Israeli controversy.
The Obama Administration does need to open its eyes, but it is unlikely that it will. Obama has made it abundantly clear where his sympathies lie in this first front of the conflict between the civilized man and the savage. And so war is coming for Israel. Hamas has called for a new intifada. And Obama’s America has switched sides.
And now he won’t even name the evil that Israel and the United States both face.
You can avoid evil, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding evil.
In a word: duck.






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Why not give it a chance? We all see how successful talking has been with Iran!!!
While we talk, they plot to destroy us! Rise up and defeat these America haters this November.
Excellent article, though I can already feel the anti-Semitic troll preparing to launch another tirade. You named the problem well, that people don't recognize evil when they see it, or think they can avoid it with more concessions.
Israel is not a perfect country, but it is a western country, one that's embraced democracy, given full citizenship to people of all faiths and ethnic backgrounds, has built a thriving economy in a country with little in the way of natural resources, and has been a credit to Judaism.
Israeli Arabs have more rights than Palestinian Arabs, and in many ways have it better. They are exempt from compulsory IDF service, and thus aren't required to serve their country in that capacity, but still have all the protections and privileges afforded a citizen of Israel.
Obama is insane and I mean exactly that ne has become so impressed with his own shadow that he seeks to cover the world with it. he cares not who he hurts or what the consequences are. He cares only that he is percieved as the great messianic leader he wishes to see himself as. He dare not let go of this image or he will see himself as his subconcious does a half white embodying all that he was taught himself to hate. Be prepared for acts that will be entirely brutal and unrecognizable as humane. He will seek to punish and subdue the non-beleivers as threats to this precarious illusion of self.
What troubles me is that this is concurrent with Obama authorizing the assassination of an American Citizen who has not been convincted or even charged with a crime. Leaving aside the identity of this man, the precedent and principle is dangerous. Who will be identified as a potential terrorist? In this case it is a man with Jihad leanings. So we take out Jihad and Islam from "Islamic Jihadist American Citizen Potential Terrorist who has not been charged" and is okayed for assassination by the President of the United States, as Obama has just done and that just leaves "American Citizen Potential Terrorist who has not been charged." What American Citizen will fill the shoes next? I think it is time to really pull the blinders off.
I only wish he could remove his head from his ass.
sorry…………………………………………………………………….NOT!
Will it still be legal to call them camel humpers and ragheads ?
Another “must read” from Pamela Geller.
When one combines this concept with the other happenings going on, it really does strike fear….Did I hear that Karzai was considering joining the Taliban…This is WRONG! So many bad ideas. OBAMA CAIR
I read today that he (Karzai, not sure about obumble) has a drug problem.
So much for eradicating poppy fields.
WHAT a HELLOVA DAY!!
I was driving home from school and I had to dodge some hand grenades thrown by an old Baptist preacher and his wife of 58 years.
Shaken – but not stirred by that excitement, a wagon-load of Mennonites swerved toward me with their two-pony-terror machine, but alas – missed. I did get some straw on me. STRIKE TWO!
Later a Buddist threw a Malotov cocktail under my car at an intersection, I accelerated and sped away, oh the humanity!
In the distance I saw a road block – as I grew closer it could see that religion crazed Morman Missionaries had piled their cheap mountain bkes in a heap and had pulled out rifles and were shooting at motorists.
NOt sure which way to proceed I suddenly was attacked by stark raving mad Lutherans will fire in their eyes who chased me with AK -47's and plastic explosives.
Thank GOD Islam is so "PEACEFUL" and loving. I feel safer all ready Omuslim. Thanks (for nothing)
Of all the subversive acts ever in the history of the United States of America, and even during this post-American Administration, this one is the killer: Barack Obama plans to remove Pamela Geller from the United States…..
Obamadness
Wait 'til you see what Presbyterians do to elementary schools, especially the little girls. Makes Beslan look like Disneyland.
It is a WORD! Can he do that—-?
We have such an embarrassment for a president.
He has done everything, and worse, that they complained wrongly that Bush did.
And in the end, it's all Bush's fault, I know.
Man, how stupid all those millions who voted for him were. Shame on them, and shame on McCain/Palin for not running a good election campaign.
When a Jevoha's Witness is packing an AR and RPG's there is NO FINER fighting man, woman or child in an ill fitting suit, bad shoes and carrying a Bible. They are the true Devil Dogs!
Not sure what happened to my original post. I'll try again:
B. Hussein advances Islam. Unlike President Bush and his "religion of peace" nescience (Islamic apologist/propagandist Grover Norquist didn't waste the crisis of 9/11, did he?), we cannot know with certainty whether Obama's obfuscating and agitating for jihad and shari'a is intentional or not.
We do know that the man claims that he converted from the Islam of his youth to Christianity. We know that he's "the smartest president ever" and attended Qur'an classes for the best students. Yes, he's described the Muslim call to prayer as one of the prettiest sounds on Earth and called "spiritual mentor" for twenty years an America-hating, anti-Semitic, Nation-of-Islam-friendly psychotic. And we can't forget his outright lies in deference to Islamic narcissism at Al-Azhar University, whose president endorsed suicide bombings against Jews. And I would be remiss if I failed to mention that just this last week, the Hide-Everything president admitted that he had still not found a church at which to worship in D.C. (I suppose that's good news; despite all of Washington's obvious pathologies, Jew-hating, anti-American "churches" are not one of them, yet). And we mustn't "jump to conclusions" and add to this list bankrupting and disarming the Republic or bowing to Muslim tyrants and pressuring/humiliating our non-Muslim allies (Israel, India, and the UK especially), right?
No, all of these are just coincidences. Yet here is why Islam must be stopped:
"the Messenger of Allah . . . would say: 'Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war. . . . When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. . . . Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. . . . If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them . . .'" (Muslim Book 19, Number 4294).
"fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) . . . " (Qur’an 9:5).
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Qur'an 9:29).
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter . . . " (Qur'an 5:33).
[Ibn Kathir says of this verse: "'Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil." So, Muhammad requires execution, crucifixion, or cutting off hands and feet from opposite sides for "disbelief."]
"Allah's Apostle said: 'I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle . . . '" (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24).
"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise" (Qur'an 8:67).
"Allah’s Apostle said, 'I have been made victorious with terror'" (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220).
I know why Obama's removed "militant, fundamentalist, extremist, Islamo-nazi-fascism" from our national security strategy. He knows it's just "Islam."
Amillennialist
http://amillennialist.blogspot.com
That's funny, Jamesb.
This is just a continuation of Obama's Down is Up, Up is Down, black is white, wrong is right, right is wrong, ideological transformation of what used to be a great country. It's fast becoming a land with no future under Obamagenda.
Palestinians against the Israelis –> USA backs the Palestinians
Pakistanis against the Indians —> USA backs the Pakistanis
In short, the USA backs the most violent anti- American jihadis and betrays the two countries who have been staunch allies of the US
Does that make sense?
Obaminable!
"Duck" rhymes with the word in my head right now…
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we're going to miss her….
Barrack Hussein Obama is walking over Israel and declaring himself "GOD"
if you can't correctly identify your enemy, you don't stand a chance of beating them. and radical muslim terrorist sounds like what you call a radical muslim terrorist. if you call him troubled mid eastern man, it just does not sound like a radical muslim terrorist. and if you can't name him, how do you find him, and kill him?? oh, and telling them, by the way, if you use a biological weapon, don't worry we won't nuke you, that is a incentive to use biological weapons.
Radical religious bastard. When I was in paris last summer a gang of French Nuns chased me down a side dtreet near the location of the old (now long gone) Bastille. Scooter ridin' wenches.
THE principal danger of the early 21st Century – ANY RELIGION BESIDES ISLAM, ask Omuslim, he'll tell ya.
HEY! Jamesb!!!!
I'm a Lutheran!!!
"Not sure which way to proceed I suddenly was attacked by stark, raving mad Lutherans will fire in their eyes who chased me with AK -47's and plastic explosives. "
Look at my picture again, That is an M-16 not an AK47! Sheesh!
Get it right sir!
GREAT Post!
It is stupidly naive of this administration to believe that we are going to be making any "friends" over this last fiasco.
I don't understand why it's necessary to let the entire world know what our strategies are anyway. Why tell you enemies, with a GUN, that YOU will be bringing a KNIFE to the next fight.
then we can defeat the #1 America hater in 2012…………….if we last while, as he has killed America's healthcare, he kills the American economy and the American way
I just hate to think about how stooopid the America liberals are…………….but there it is with obozo leading the way
the obozo head is so far up the mooooslim ass, it cant be done……………as America suffers and Americans die
but…..but………its the christian that killed all the world trade towers mooooslims
just ask obozo…………he will tell you
besides, its Bush's fault……………..we all know that, especially after the last 16 months of mooooslim obama
HOME RUN !!!!!!!!!
AMERICA – can we make it thru the next 30 months of mooooslim obama?
He can forget about Islamists, but you can bet your last rubber duck they won't forget us.
my thoughts, exactly
11/6/2012 – end of the error and the end of the obama reign of terror on America
"Scooter ridin' wenches" ROTFLMAO. Who'd o' thought those words would ever be uses in that configuration?
We gotta watch you "Luths"!
That is a fine looking weapon you have there. Nothing say "saftey" to me like a well armed and trained American with a fine instrument of "instruction" like that.
Say, D.M. did you see that outrageous article that Big Journalism had written by an ex-Marine working for the New York Times telling the Taliban HOW TO CORRECT THEIR "BAD MARKSMANSHIP"? New York Times blog piece? I couldn't believe it.
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Isaiah 5:20. He's a regular rocket scinetist, alright. What a cockbite.
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P-BO reportedly gets daily devotional messages from various pastors every day on his BlackBerry. Who are these pastors? Why aren't we told? Could it be, the reason he has not found a church is that he does not need one? Perhaps he has a Quran downloaded on his BlackBerry, along with devotional messages from some Imam. Would explain why he had to have his own personal phone; away from FOIA.
You too????!!!!
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"Vote early, vote often."
Just not in the same election. ^__^ Silly ACORN – voting is for people who are alive!
There are many ways to Conquer a Nation, the "Trojan Horse", has been used effectively, already!!! How Powerful is Jihad!!? Who is the new enemy in America? "TEA partiers" beware, you/we seem like their targets!!! They love everyone…………BUT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
twice
What would be a good reason to cancel elections this Nov.? I'm sure the "ONE" is praying for a reson to call in his domestic ARMY. What a twit.
"Obama’s America has switched sides…"
I heard on the radio today a catchy phrase that pinpoints Obama's "…fundamentally transforming" America strategy… "Tyranny that promotes social justice is still tyranny."
So, it seems that in Obama's "…fundamentally transforming" America, "An enemy without a name is NOT an enemy."
However, Obama the world class strategist needs to realize a basic fact, "An enemy without a name is STILL an enemy," because the Enemy With No Name still calls America the Great Satan and Israel the Little Satan… because words mean things in the real world.
The scariest part of this is that most people haven't a clue about its ramifications. Those of us who make an effort to understand the true nature of Islam and try to keep up to date on this unfolding nightmare are shocked at this monumental stupidity. Everyone else, if they notice it at all will just view it as some boring political blather.
Red Hussein will be trying to put some 10 or 15 million resentful illegals on the voting roles before 2012.
If he succeeds the fight is lost.
Pamela, as ever, is of course right.
Now how do we get rid of this fatherless bastard?
This President is absolutely certifiable. Does he not see where his arrogance and his insane policies are leading us and the world? I truly fear that this man could start WWIII. I fear for my country and the world.
Perhaps we avoided the difficult issue far too long. Is violent jihad central to Islam? The answer seems to be it is. This is not to say that at some point Islam may reform—many of its adherents have to a degree–buy avoidance of the subject has led us here. Obama is playing with a fire that would engulf the world. The president's happy speak is viewed, correctly, by our enemies as a green light to strike without fear of the type of reprisal the previous Administration would have delivered.
Yeah……………..vote 10 or 15 times……………………….fukit.
In WWI,I we had a global strategy for defeating our enemies. We followed Sun Tzu. We knew our enemy and had no problems calling them by name: Nazis, Japanese militarists, etc. Now, 60 years on, we no longer follow Sun Tzu; who counseled that in war ,we should "know thy enemy". Identifying the enemy is step one to defeating him and developing a global strategy to defeat him. Instead, we play whack-a-mole, and hug trees, instead of making the jihadists hug trees, whilst we pound them day and night with cold steel. If the dumb-a$$-in-chief thinks that by eliminating words that the jihadis use to describe themselves, from the National strategy lexicon, is somehow going to change the minds of the followers of the eternal dung beetle, he truely is a fool.
I have a ham sandwich smothered with bacon and pickeled pigs feet topped with pork chops to get through the muslim road blocks near my hovel. Works every time……….
Its the Noblama Doctrine. Bend over and pay homage.
A good antidote to the stupidity of trying to separate in the public mind the war of terror being perpetrated by these Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists from their creed of jihad based in the basic teachings of their religion and the example they follow that is the life of Mohammed as described in detail in the Koran is Robert Spencer’s “The Truth About Mohammed: Founder of the World’s Most Intolerant Religion.”
Spencer uses the Koran and the writings of eminent Koranic scholars to explain that Mohammed, according to the Koran and its interpretations, lived a life of such perfection that all true Muslims are bound to emulate it as much as they can. The history of Mohammed’s rise to power and religious adoration is one of constant warfare against unbelievers.
That warfare is called “jihad” and is justified in their eyes because it is what Mohammed teaches as the revealed word of Allah.
Had a pack of drooling muttonheads like this bunch tried to advance an agenda of precious terminology precision like this in WWII, I am quite confident that they would have been locked up on grounds of at least questionable sanity. The disbelief among the general populace that would have followed in the wake of such a campaign would have been immeasurable.
Go away, troll-boy.
This way lies madness for our country. Run, don't walk to the nearest Tea Party rally this April 15th. Vote early, vote often.
This leaves me in a quandary… Does Obama see this as yet another way to destroy the USA so he can "transform" the ashes into a socialist utopia? Perhaps he is simply as equally incompetent re the national defense and foreign affairs as he has shown himself to be re domestic governance? Maybe his ignorance exceeds his lack of critical reasoning capacity?
They were in their summer uni's, pastel blue with matching "puff blue" machine gun straps.
The Peter Principle has now hit Obama…he has risen to his level of incompetence!
America's focus is the November election. Regardless of this other stuff, the November election will set America on its future path.
Jamesb,
That's RIGHT, you gotta keep an eye out for us Luths!
I saw the article, and I did a heavy skim, but I did not actually read/study it. I picked up more that he was comparing the Taliban to the ANP, and explaining how those training the ANP willneed to overcome the "cultural" issues that make training them very difficult.
I've got skin in that game. My little brother is on his second 13 month tour in A-Stan as a former civilian cop (and he was in the Navy back when I was in as well) he is now a contractor teaching the natives how to be a police force. He says it is damn near impossible because they have no frame of reference for "serve an protect" they are all about themselves, their clan, their sect, and F everyone else (pretty much in that order).
That the Times is printing what is tantamount to treason, and aid and comfort to the enemy is no surprise…
Did you see my post yesterday about how the MSM is complicit is all the crap going on now? My point was if our military was doing what the MSM i doing it would be referrd to as a coup or armed insurrection at least…
Those that don't worship Israel more than the US(Jews and Zionist Christians) and are emotionally detached from subservience to Israel will readily concede that Israel is the biggest threat to US security.
When you add up all of the monetary transfers,theft, espionage,false flags(Lavon affair,USS Liberty,who knows what else including possibly 911) you have to conclude that it is this aggressive,violent little nation that presents the biggest challenge not just to American security,but to global security as well.
He's an attractive and articulate(when there's a Teleprompter around)well-funded man who's been packaged, prepped and presented as the cure for all our ails. Everything about him is a pretense. He has no more idea about what he's doing about this nation than a blind man has with a set of juggling balls. Policy is his weapon of choice and his entourage of political hacks and groupies has the collective administrative experience and abilities of bong party. In short, the man is an imposter and a fraud. Follow the money on this one.
Frankly, this article is strongly biased at best. If you are going to cite an article, you should directly link your source to the actual source, not something taken second hand that briefly mentions the content describing. In order to make credible arguments, which I believe yours is not, you must be able to argue with facts. You compromised your research credibility, so it makes it hard for me to believe what you say – your political positions or research sources, or anything else.
Also, if you are going to use the Quranic verse to confirm that "Islam must be stopped," then you may wish to delve into Jewish religious texts. You will also find rigid descriptions of proper behavior and often proscribes violent punishments for their infraction. Should U.S. Foreign Policy reject an entire faith and its people because it does not agree with its tenets?
If we follow your logic, then the Washington would be fighting the state of Israel rather than supporting it.
ROFL … Great thread. I was a little sad after reading the article cause it was right on the money. Thanks for the laugh. When things get tough the tough get going better with a little laugh. ;0)
We are faced with a "Clear and Present Danger" festering like a cancer, enabled by the MSM.
The Great O'ppeaser should have paid attention in Qur'an class when he was young.
From what I can see he doesn't understand the Qur'an at all.
He sees Islam as a peaceful religion when in fact it is a cult ideology bent on world conquest.
If O'ppeasement had known the true teachings of Mo he would not be taking the position he has.
And the Holocaust never happened, right? And if it did, your only problem with it is that some Jews got away, right?
It makes sense if you realize that he spent his childhood in Indonesia, going to a Muslim school. His roots say it all.
The Jewish religion contains no open-ended commands to impose Jewish law on the whole world. Islam does contain, in Qur'an and Hadith, open-ended commands to impose Islamic law on the whole world. Further, Islam has about 100 times the population of Judaism, and Muslims have more children than most other groups, so that Islam really will be in a position to impose Islamic law — or at least the Islamic ethos, very closely related to Islamic law — in many places where it did not exist before. In many parts of Europe, it has become difficult to criticize Islam publicly. Women in an increasing number of places are forced to dress "modestly" to avoid becoming targets of rape by Muslim men who feel justified by Islam. Gays in various parts of Holland face violence if they appear openly. A number of areas of Europe have become no-go zones for non-Muslims. 50% of Danish Muslims are not in favor of freedom of speech. 11% want to live under Islamic law, rather than under Danish law. Meanwhile, around the world, Muslim-majority nations on the whole have the worst human rights records and the least respect for civil liberties and political rights of any block of nations. The Organization of the Islamic Conference, the largest block of nations at the UN (over 50 Muslim-majority nations), put forth the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights as an alternative to the UN Declaration of Human Rights. The Cairo Declaration basically says that people can have any rights that don't conflict with Islamic law. You can have free speech so long as you don't criticize Muhammad or Islam. Anything Muhammad did that conflicts with the UN Declaration of Human Rights, so much the worse for the UN Declaration, the Organization of the Islamic Conference will ignore it. If you tell me, "What about Indonesia? The largest Muslim-majority nation is moderate…" Then I will ask you about Indonesia's religious identity cards, and about the prosecution and threats of prosecution against anyone who does not fit in to Indonesia's accepted religions. Indonesia has a 5-year jail term for those who proselytize outside certain faiths, and recently threatened a non-orthodox Muslim with a 5 year jail term if he refused to recant his non-orthodoxy. He recanted. And then there is Islam's region of Aceh, where they have been trying to implement Islamic law. And then there was the beheading by Muslims of some Christian schoolgirls on their way to school in Indonesia. Turkey is also hardly exemplary as a place respecting religious freedom. Try to build a church in Turkey. Now go to the Islamic heartland of Arabia. Go to Iran. What true hell-holes. As the Muslim population of Europe grows by leaps and bounds due to the fact that Muslims have a lot of children, Europe is at risk of losing its liberal and free culture. Perhaps it won't. But the situation certainly seems to warrant stepping back a moment and thinking about it as a possibility, and discussing it, putting the breaks on further Islamic immigration till we have some confirmation, somewhere in the world, that Muslims can rule a nation to first world standards of freedom of speech and religion.
Like you, I don't always agree with Pam Geller, and would sometimes like to see more journalistic caution from her. But your tendency to equate Islam with Judaism is off the mark. Compared to Judaism, Islam is far denser with totalitarian threads in its core documents. Judaism is far more pluralistic theologically, historically, culturally. But that is true of all the major religions, vis-a-vis Islam. Islam is the most totalitarian of them all.
Did you know about the linguist Tina Magaard? She has a Ph.D. in Intercultural Communication from the Sorbonne. She did a three-year study of the original texts of the ten largest religions, and one of her findings was that the core texts of Islam were the most aggressive and violent toward other religions.
President Obama, Peace be upon Him, is doing everything he can to help our enemies, and for the sake of the Nation, I HOPE HE FAILS.
obama is the "Mirror" in which a third of our country looks into every morning. TRUE haters of all that is good.
Never being accountable is the lefts Modus Operandum. Ever notice that in all of PROGRESSIVE history not ONCE have they been accountable? Its always someone elses fault? If this isnt a mental disorder I'd sure like to know what is.
In the mind of the Metrosexual, wars mess up thier pedicures
Got to say it…..your post could be brilliant but it's way to long to read so I wouldn't know. I read the articles and then like to read comments to see what others think. However when the comment is as long as the article it's just too time consuming. Just saying…….have a good day!
well if it walks like aduck and sounds like a duck and swims like a duck does it change because I call it chicken?
Now explain All the ahadeeth(hadiths) you've quoted ..They all have explanations from scholars just as you quote ibn katheer freely as if you know ibn katheer what is correct from him and what is not correct from him… Just to give you a hint ibn katheer contains narrations from the prophet,companions and others which are SOME unauthentic I'll wait for you to name your sources…
I will never forget the Marines who were killed by the filthy pigs in '83, we will win this.
Ihsaan_Rines – you are using one of the most basic (and utterly pathetic) of excuses (that are in reality simple lies) endlessly peddled by “political” followers of Muhammad; namely that some, but not all, aḥādīth (plural of hadith) are somehow “not authentic” and picking and choosing and ducking and diving….. all part of your jihadi mentality of confusing “the enemy”, i.e. everyone and anyone who has not “submitted” to the cult of Muhammad.
What’s more, Ihsaan_Rines, much of what Amillennialist is correctly quoting (in fairly accurate “modern” translation) actually comes not from Hadith but the Qur’an itself – claimed by followers of Muhammad such as yourself to contain only “perfect” and “divine” words which are “forever true”! You can’t have it both ways – when it suits you its “perfection” cannot even be questioned, when it doesn’t it isn’t even “authentic”.
…more to follow…
Unluckily for you, Ihsaan_Rines , your lies fail because I have the expertise to expose fully them. I was born in Iraq. Arabic is my mother tongue (I read & speak it fluently & have also studied the “classical” Arabic of the Qur’an). I’ve spent around 3 decades studying every aspect of Islam in depth. For the last few years I’ve freely shared my findings and been warning anyone who’ll listen of the lying, predatory nature and pure evil of “standard” mainstream Islam.
Anyone who’s interested can for example listen to over 260 of my short but detailed and factual talks (based entirely on the original Islamic texts themselves, with references to all sources properly cited). My channel on YouTube ishttp://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran3 The talks (or “chapters” as I call them, since I’ve also publish full transcripts in my book “Lifting the Veil: The True Faces of Muhammad and Islam”) are fully indexed and in order onhttp://www.al-rassooli.org/AhmadsQuran3/
Kind Regards,
IQ al Rassooli
No-IQ-whatsoever…This copy and paste nonsense requires explanation and it's obvious him or you cant do so. Who cares what your mother tongue is..Islamic terminology requires knowing it not just being arab..Just like any native english speaker can not necessarily teach english or would know the jargon of specific sciences.. so your fluency is a moot point…..Wow now l would imagine your tooting your own horn now..you studied islam for 3 decades..loooooooool ..We have MANY scholars and students in islam who have studied waaaaay longer then that so maybe you need to find another place to brag… The author of this nonsense is being asked to provide his sources and you are him simply cant do sooooo.
As I listen to your silly youtube post about the satanic verses….the concensus of hadeeth scholars REJECT this fabricated nonsense. Let's start with wa-qee-dee(not like you said wakidi–)Muhammad ibn `Umar al-Waqidi (d. 207), Ahmad ibn Hanbal said of him: "He is A LIAR." Al-Bukhari and Abu Hatim al-Razi said: "DISCARDED." Ibn `Adi said: "His narrations ARE NOT RETAINED, AND THEIR BANE COMES FROM HIM." Ibn al-Madini said: "HE FORGES HADITHS." Al-Dhahabi said: "CONSENSUS HAS SETTLED OVER HIS DEBILITY." (however Dhahabi claims after citing the opinions of the predecessors of Waqidi that he HIMSELF has "no doubt over his truthfulness" in the sense of Historical Accuracy but doubts his Ahkam reports) Mizan al-I`tidal, Al-Dhahabi (3:662-666 #7993).] [3]
Abd Allah Ibn Ali al Madini and his father said: "Al-Waqidi has 20,000 Hadith I never heard of." And then he said: "His narration shouldn't be used" and considered it weak. Yahya Ibn Muaen said: "Al-Waqidi said 20,000 false hadith about the prophet." Al-Shafi'i said, "Al-Waqidi is a liar." Ibn Hanbal said, "Al-Waqidi is a liar." Al-Bukhari said he didn't write a single letter by Al-Waqidi. (Siar Aalam al nublaa – althagbi – biography of Al-Waqidi)…Bring me an authentic chain of narration for the satanic verses….ahmad …
@IQ—–You dont claim to be a religious person do you? I saw your youtube channel and it has instructions for belly dancing…Is that righteousness according to your religion ? watching a half naked woman prance around exploiting herself? http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran3
ihsaan,
Since I don't know you, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt: Either you're a wretched propagandist for Allah, or you're just ignorant. If you are the latter, then why presume of offer opinions on that of which you know nothing? If you are the former, then you are an enemy of God and Man, and I will not let your lies go unanswered.
Now for your supposed "refutations" of my comments . . . . You wrote:
"explain All the ahadeeth(hadiths) you've quoted ..They all have explanations from scholars just as you quote ibn katheer freely as if you know ibn katheer what is correct from him and what is not correct from him . . . This copy and paste nonsense requires explanation . . . now l would imagine your tooting . . . ."
First, the ayat and ahadith I quoted are from Islamic translations. If you don't like them, make your own. Second, no explanation is needed — you can read, can't you? Third, "copy and paste nonsense" is an embarrassingly-pathetic ad hominem; if you're going to quote someone on the Internet, the most efficient way to do so is to "copy and paste" their words (what do you want, manual transcription? Paraphrasing?). I've provided specific citations for each passage; if I've misrepresented anything, then show that (it should be easy enough for a scholar like you). If not, then stop lying for the genocidal pedophile Muhammad, who preached and practiced depravity your coreligionists were shameless enough to record in Qur'an, ahadith, and sira.
So, ihsaan, what is about Muhammad that screams out to you "prophet of god!"? Is it the genocide or the pedophilia that appeals to you so?
Amillennialist
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@amillennial-nutjob…I asked you to provide the explanations of the ahadeeth that you used for proof…and to list your source of where you used ibn katheer. .Like for an example you typed:"Allah's Apostle said: 'I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle . . . '" (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24). This hadeeth alone has 5 different explanations …Ibn Hajr al asqaalaanee who explained all of Sahih bukharee said
that this hadeeth was abrogated when later peace agreements were revealed so this excluded the people of the book from this ruling.(fathul baari)…So look how you silly you look by not knowing about when this hadeeth was said and what it applied to and to whom it was applied to and was it abrogated or not…. YOU Cannot just look at some translation and just apply it how you feel the arabic language alone has 2 meanings and then the jurisprudence and religious meaning MUST be known before it can be used and applied…..and it's obvious you dont know any of these things …so keep on agitating and increasing hate for non-muslims from muslims due to your fear mongering accusations and your blantant and obvious ignorance of how to apply prophetic hadeeth from the best example to mankind muhammad sellahi alayhi wa salam…
Obama's world view owes much to the late Edward Said professor at Columbia and perhaps best known for his 1978 book "Orientalism". Professor Said's view was the the nations of the West were colonial oppressors vis a vis the Arab world in the past and remained enemies of the Arab world in the present. As such the motives, aims and actions of the nations of the West were seen by Said as tainted and malign. If Said were alive I think he would be pleased with the approach President Obama is taking (or striving mightily to persuade America that the Islamists are the good guys and Israel is suspect), although Said would probably say Obama is not going far enough. Pamela Geller regards Obama's approach to the middle east as being dangerous for Israel and on that she and I agree.
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Considering what you call "religion" (beheading, mutilating, and raping — including little, prepubescent girls — in imitation of Muhammad, Allah's "beautiful pattern of conduct"), it seems humanity would be a lot better off with Muslims spending more time belly dancing and less time being "religious."
ihsaan,
You call a genocidal pedophile "the best example to mankind," and I'm the "nutjob"?
(Don’t think that we all didn’t notice your inability to deny Muhammad’s genocide and pedophilia. There’s a kind of honesty in your silence on that, at least.)
Just in case anyone is tempted to give any credence to your mendacity . . .
Ibn Kathir is my source for Ibn Kathir, of course.
As for implying that I am misrepresenting or are unfamiliar with your "sacred" texts, I posted several passages demonstrating Muhammad's wanton bloodlust, along with specific citations. Anyone who can read can determine for themselves whether or not I’m “ignorantly fear mongering.”
Nowhere do I claim that Muslims are commanded to kill non-Muslims indiscriminately as you seem to suggest. Everyone knows that Allah has rules for how to butcher "infidels": First, "invite" them to convert; if they refuse, then demand the jizya; if they refuse that, then war. If that sounds familiar, then that’s because I posted it above, along with the special “accommodation” for the “People of the Book” (Qur’an 9:29). Perhaps you ought to read before ranting about my “ignorance” of exceptions for Jews and Christians (and later, other non-Muslims).
As for "later peace agreements," demanding money from non-Muslims in order to protect them from yourselves is not a “peace agreement;” it’s extortion. (Those “agreements” were "later" because Muhammad realized that slaves are more profitable than corpses, and most Muslims preferred raping the living rather than the dead — even Muhammad.)
And thanks for admitting (accidentally, no doubt) that your texts are vile, murderous refuse: The fact that your pedophile prophet was ordered to fight against ANYONE AT ALL because of their “unbelief” proves incontrovertibly that Muhammad served hell. Claiming that the order to kill was abrogated by "later peace agreements" demonstrates that the obvious reading of the text is the correct one: It was an order to war over religious belief. How do "later peace agreements" make commands to genocide on religious grounds acceptable, again?
It is absurd in the highest degree to argue that "The passage doesn’t say to kill because later texts replaced (abrogated) it saying 'Don’t kill them!'" You realize that a command to genocide’s being limited by later “peace agreements” proves that the former command is murderous, don’t you?
Finally, you defend “kill the pagans wherever you find them” (Qur’an 9:5) and then lie to everyone here about it, but then claim that I’m the one “increasing hate for non-muslims from muslims.” How sad. A non-Muslim’s stating plainly what your coreligionists were too shameless to hide isn’t “fear mongering,” it’s self-defense. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
You think that you’re serving God, but you’re serving hell. Christ committed no sin, spoke only the truth, healed the sick, raised the dead, died for the sins of the whole world, and resurrected. He commanded His people to love even their enemies.
On the other hand, Muhammad practiced genocide, pedophilia, mutilation, torture, rape, slavery, extortion, theft, wife-beating (endorsed only?), polygamy, religious and gender apartheid, deceit, and blasphemy, claimed “allah made me do it!” and commanded others to do the same. In other words, Muhammad “sacralized” the violation of all Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.
Turn from hell and trust in the Son of God, Who died for all your sins to give you peace with His Father.
Regards,
Amillennialist
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US President Barack Obama is much more popular in the Muslim world, in compared to his predecessors. Muslim leaders and the press will always avoid criticizing Obama: many Muslims strongly believes that Obama is still in fact a Muslim.
It's not that he can't remove it from Islam, it's that we shouldn't.
As a world leader it's our moral responsibility to help keep the peace among developing countries.
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