Andrew Breitbart at Big Government:
In keeping with the new media notion of crowdsourcing–enthusiastically embraced by the mainstream media when trawling through Sarah Palin’s emails–Big Government will be providing readers later today with links to a document drop consisting of thousands of emails.
The email archive, created by a private cyber security researcher, appears to contain messages shared by the left’s anarcho-socialist activists during the strategic and daily tactical planning of the “Occupy Wall Street” and broader “Occupy” campaign this fall.
Big Government received a tip about the existence of the archive, and we were able to contact the individual who compiled and posted it. He will describe the archive, and how he obtained the emails, later this morning exclusively on Big Government.
Through “crowdsourcing,” the media and the public will then be able to discover the truth behind the “Occupy” movement.
The archive includes emails, for example, from radical anarchist organizer Lisa Fithian, who was profiled earlier this week at Big Government, and who is one of the leading organizers behind the Occupy movement.
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Ann Coulter is right about OWS group being known now as the "Flea Party".
Keep up the good work Andrew, Team Parasite is squirming…great fun.
This is perfect, for ones to young too remember the ‘60s. We have a living breathing Petri dish – - what was it Diane Sawyer breathlessly reported, “in a 1000 countries.” such brilliance on display, right! – - of worthlessness, little spooners who have zero grasp of reality and what makes America a great country. They have no understanding of sweat equity, perseverance, American Exceptionalism. They will either be wards of the state, or mommy and daddy. Keep it up spooners, free America is watching.
They are duped props, so let them stay and ignore them, then they will act petulently and Bloomberg will look like it snowed on garbage pick up day.
They will be there as long as they are fed and the weather holds out.
I believe that they have been organized and that they continue to be orchestrated.
These MSM clowns that came up with the idea of crowdsourcing the Palin e-mails have to deal with Payback now. They will wish they were getting Justice instead, because Justice is a Lady, but Payback is a Bxtch.
So many good names for these OWS clowns.
The Flea Party
The Pee (in public) Party
The "Me me me" party.
Way to go Andrew, let's expose these Obama supporting manipulators for who they are.
Andrew, you are an American hero ! PLEASE expose these criminals for who they are: The useful idiots in the streets are not intelligent enough to understand they are being used by the administration and anarchists like Soros who will personally benefit financially from economic destruction. We look forward to you exposing the emails like Wikileaks. What would we do without you!
NOTE: Word has it the Muslims plan to join in tomorrow October 15th. Is that true?
Well, one good thing is they are taking their dumps on police cars ( http://tinyurl.com/64kv5h4 ). That way the police get to haul off all the feces they create after eating all that shipped-in spam ( http://tinyurl.com/5uk98hu ). I can tell you spam poop is pretty nasty and it would get mighty stinky down there if it weren't for the cops carting it off on the hoods of their cruisers. Thank you NYPD!
Occubaggers
We all have to get involved,Andrew provides the light,we need to provide the feet,you can expose these people all day long,it won't mean anything unless we provide the solution and get involved,somehow,in someway!
What we need is a draft to give these occupiers an occupation… Maybe then they'd have something to complain about lol
Even after exposure, the dopey kids still won't realize that they'd been used as shills for the establishment. They'll go on believing that they are little Che Guevaras who are, like, totally essential for change and all that silly rot. Still, the new drug connections made will prove invaluable to them henceforth.
Wonder if NYC is fed up with this mayor yet? Advocating for nanny-leftism is one thing, being buried in it is quite another.
Here's What The Wall Street Protesters Are So Angry About…
The problem in a nutshell is this: Inequality in this country has hit a level that has been seen only once in the nation's history, and unemployment has reached a level that has been seen only once since the Great Depression. And, at the same time, corporate profits are at a record high.
In other words, in the never-ending tug-of-war between "labor" and "capital," there has rarely—if ever—been a time when "capital" was so clearly winning.
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-p...
With graphs to support the claims.
How about some shovel-ready jobs for some of the cretins, specifically the old-style chain gangs?
Most of these "protesters" are little different than the usual clowns who show up to trash WTO meetings. They're either "professional" protestors, astroturfers, union stooges, commies who hate capitalism, or college students up to their necks in loans and unable to find the cushy jobs they thought they'd get upon graduation.
Wall Street ain't the problem here.
And these so-called 99 percenters don't speak for anyone but themselves — especially for those of us who, you know, actually WORK for a living.
I might actually sympathize a little if they were protesting outside the mansions of Hollywood stars and other celebrities, whose decadence far exceeds that of Wall Street.
How do you guys do this?? Such great stuff coming out of the wood work!
I guess the only "organic movements" on the left are the piles of excrement they leave behind.
What we need are journalists who understand political history, especially that of the last 100 or so years, with emphasis on the "mass struggles" created by Marxists.
We need journalists who can, through their knowledge of how so-called revolutions throughout the world have come into being espousing the merits of Marxism, explain the striking parallels between the methods used by these so-called "spontaneous" gatherings of OWS'ers and the Red Guards brandishing Mao's "Little Red Book."
These gatherings, orchestrated by the likes of Lisa Fithian et al, in most important respects, appear to replicate the "mass struggle meetings" of Mao's Red Guards during China's disastrous Cultural Revolution.
Some readers here may not have been old enough to recall that weird period in China's contemporary history and should research those phenomena. They were called into being by Mao when he came out of partial retirement (some think at the behest of his wife, one of the Gang of Four) to reclaim ownership of China's political and economic evolution.
That movement sought to eliminate "Capitalist Roaders," "bureaucratic bourgeoisie," and other "filthy revisionists" whose gradually encroaching common sense was making them aware of the need for China to abandon strict central party control and move toward more individual freedom, especially among China's farmers the collectivization of whose farms was resulting in drastically declining output which was creating creeping starvation, even within Beijing.
We need journalists who can tell the difference between the magic of capitalism's "incentivizing" its practitioners and the virtual elimination of individual initiative and incentivization that socialism and Marxism induces.
The OWS'ers are perfect examples of those who lack even a molecule of individual initiative. Their educations – if the political awareness meetings posing as college courses they attend in colleges of liberal arts across our land can be called that – are so woefully lacking in perspective and balance that they come to these gatherings so sophomorically sure of themselves that their explanations to various media types of why they are there sound much like six-pack-fueled dorm room policital bull sessions I recall from the days before the scales fell from my eyes (I mark that date from the first time I had to pay my monthly expenses from the meager paycheck my own virtually worthless liberal arts degree allowed me to earn that I was then bringing back to my el-cheapo apartment.).
We need journalists whose range of personal experience includes living among those who inhabit flyover country, those whose daily lives are dominated by their work schedules, disciplined by the need to deliver actual results in order to compete for their incomes.
These virtues of individual initiative, personal responsibility, and getting by without hand-outs are the very traits that none of these OWS'ers appear to possess. We need journalists who can discern the lack of such character traits when they interview OWS'ers and who can think on their feet fast enough to ask logical follow-on questions to pin the OWS'ers down on just what it is that motivates them.
I'm not sure they teach such things in journalism schools. Such things have to be learned in the real world.
The Canuck dope thinks capital is one amorphous mass. There is capital and there is capital and there is the capital that is being invested in this insurgent movement against the American system. This is tantamount to an act of war if it is being supported by foreign capital. Just so you know.
You're straining your neck to look everywhere but what's directly staring you in the face … big government greed and the big bully manipulators. Those union types standing next to you have been sucking in a much bigger share of that "capital" you rant about than anyone else. So come again, who's not paying their fair share?
Just gotta' toe the class warfare line, eh, Helen?
Every single one of the Occupy Washroom protesters has the opportunity to become rich in America. There is nothing to stop them except themselves and the inability to use their own talents to do so.
Take Steve Jobs, high school educated and he became a billionaire! Take me, I didn't even make it through high school and I became a millionaire! Don't tell me opportunity doesn't exist in America!! And the idea that rich people just stuff their money in a vault and it doesn't benefit anyone else just shows that you watch Donald Duck cartoons way too much! Even Spooky Dude, the perceived biggest Scrooge McDuck on the planet, spreads his wealth around and provides millions of jobs with it!
When you hand stuff to people, as these people want, you don't get a rich people. You get a bunch of people that want more. Every time! And when you take from the rich to bankroll these utopian dreams, eventually they run out of money too. Then you have no jobs!
Like Margaret Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that, eventually, you run out of other people's money.
Have you learned nothing from the fall of socialist regimes? That they all fail eventually and usually very quickly? Do you really think they just didn't implement the plan properly? That you could do it better?
Good luck with that, Helen. Why not move to Cuba or North Korea and tell them what they are doing wrong?
"Every single one of the Occupy Washroom protesters has the opportunity to become rich in America. There is nothing to stop them except themselves and the inability to use their own talents to do so."
I love the Internet. We can all be whatever we imagine ourselves to be be, right Helen?
These kids have lived in the most prosperous time in the History of the world,many have never been told no or been spanked. Theyrecbeing used by Soros and he has destroyed more countries and people than anyone in recent history.
That is so true, Helen!
Do you do the Jazz Hands and stuff when you repeat me, Helen?
I forget, would that be the "tinkle" or the "downward tinkle"?
These occupunks make me rethink Science czar Holdren's ideology.
You just illustrated your mindset. Nick was talking about the reality of this country – that people have the opportunity to rise up from socio-economic inequalities. You don't want reality, you want to believe whatever allows you to channel anger into something and feel like a great person at the same time. At least find real inequality and injustice to fight, instead of outdated stuff from other cultures and centuries.
I found a bit of stuff regarding AdBusters' role in all of this – "The Brains behind Airhead Autumn": http://is.gd/7H7Wxv
Interestingly enough, the graphic for Adbusters' Nov/Dec 2011 Issue "American Autumn" (a black crow) was posted to the internet in late June.
This is another one of Kalle Lasn's "provocative campaigns" – that magazine cover didn't come about by accident; this has been in the works for a while…..
I LOVE THE NEW MEDIA!!!
It's incredible how easily persuaded most of these protesters are. Sad, really, that this country has seemed to raise whole generations of people that must have marketing strategies form their values. There is no original thought, no sense of individuality, no sense of respect, for self or otherwise. What on Earth could you possibly be thinking when you are so easily persuaded to eagerly place yourself in a situation that demands you live like rabid rodents so that you can do the dirty work of those who take from others to live like royalty rather than making any sacrifice themselves? It's confounding.
I don't understand how one can be an "anarcho-socialist." Anarchy calls for no government control, while socialism calls for complete government control. Wow, these folks are stupid.
You guys just don't get it. The opportunity itself exists but we do not all possess the same traits, qualities, luck, parents, psychological makeup, etc. In any large group, there are going to be people who are lazy scammers scammers and then those who just cannot make it financially due to many circumstances. The question is how do you deal with the latter? Adopt the mentality that if one is struggling financially it's due to laziness and just screw them?
LOL. You prove that financial wealth is no indicator of intelligence.
Why, thank you, Helen!
I, in no way, consider myself particularly intelligent. I'm just a regular guy.
Now, could you go down to your local Occupy Washroom demonstration and explain that to them?
That you don't have to be particularly smart to be a winner in America. That you just have to work hard and believe in what you are doing. That you don't need handouts from the government.
(I have to admit, I borrowed $5K from my father-in-law but, I paid him back in many multiples of that figure)
Good luck with that, Helen!
The fact that we disagree on the potential solutions does not mean that I don't "get" what you wrote regarding circumstances. To me this society has been attempting to deal with the circumstances that create inequality and injustice since its inception. Through legislation, through shedding light on the injustices, and through things like education, volunteerism and activism.
Nothing and no one starts out perfect.
Is that "scammers scammers" part of the chant, Helen? Do we repeat it or are some lazy scammers just bigger scammers?
Are all the people shown in the videos asking for free stuff 'cause, like, there's no harm in asking, just down on their luck?
Are all the one's asked if they would take a job on Wall Street and say, "Hell no!" just down on their luck?
Nobody says those that cannot care for themselves should be ignored but, you are advocating that we should be forced to care for a lot that certainly can! That's the problem. Why should I be forced to pay for your college education, for example? That's what more than a few of your friends are asking for.
The way I see it, you and most of your friends are just using the truly needy as cover for your agenda. That's what socialists do. Use people. Capitalists pay people.
By the way, have you read any of the e-mail dump yet?
Is it time to call you a useful idiot yet, Helen?
"but, you are advocating that we should be forced to care for a lot that certainly can! That's the problem."
Show me where I've ever advocated that.
When I was a kid, there was a retarded guy in my small town – name was 'Melvin.". Whenever someone would do something stupid, we'd call that person a "Melvin." We were about 9 years old. Sounds like you are mentally still back there with your constant use of "Helen."
The e-mail dump is a non-issue. Breitbart had his 15 minutes of fame with Weiner; that's it for him. I have to wonder why the Right is so freaked out by the OWS people.
Oh, so the answer is to prop up the inadequate with government funds invested by tax payers so that another generation of inadequate offspring can have the opportunity to (you guessed it) ask for more "propping up". Give me a break. Try being responsible for yourself and dropping the Nintendo mentality that everything should be right there when you snap your fingers and ask for it. Try working your way up the ladder. Try being honest about the impact that greedy unions have had on American corporations. Try realizing that the OWS crowd is just the "tool" of Obama to get re-elected. Think the OWS goons will be showing up at election booths in 2012? They will. BUT they won't be there to vote. They'll be there to intimidate would be voters…
By advocating Occupy Washroom you agree with all their wants and wishes. I don't see you arguing that you shouldn't pay for someone else's college education, for example. These people are not asking for the hungry to be fed, they are advocating the downfall of capitalism, from what I gather and capitalism has fed more mouths than all the other systems combined! Does it need work? Of course it does! However, not in the way you think it does! Even we recognize that but, we don't have to stink up a park to let people know!
Nice liberal projection with your Melvin story. That's a fine insight into your psyche! I use Helen 'cause I'm a slow typist and you all sound the same to me!
Funny, you want to ignore the true basis of your "demonstration". One would think one would be interested if they were being manipulated or not. I guess that's just me. Maybe you're the type that doesn't care? You know, with the chanting and Jazz Hands and such. Will you "Baaahhhh" or "Moooo" when they ask too? Seeing as some are advocating freedom to have sex with animals as well?
And if Breitbart had his 15 minutes, why are you here?
The issue is more about the disparity between the wealthy and the middle class. The difference between the top 1% and the remaining 99%. The middle class isn't asking for handouts. Their argument is mainly regarding disparity of income in the US.
The CIA ranks countries based on an index where the higher the index the more disparity in the income. The U.S. ranks 39th (worst) in terms of disparity. It is slightly worse than Iran (41st) and much worse than most other developed countries such as Russia (51), China (52), Poland (90), United Kingdom (91), Greece (98), France (99), Canada (102), Spain (103), Italy (104), Australia (112), Germany (126), and Sweden (136).
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-worl...
The issue is more about the disparity between the wealthy and the middle class. The difference between the top 1% and the remaining 99%. The middle class isn't asking for handouts. Their argument is mainly regarding disparity of income in the US.
The CIA ranks countries based on an index where the higher the index the more disparity in the income. The U.S. ranks 39th (worst) in terms of disparity. It is slightly worse than Iran (41st) and much worse than most other developed countries such as Russia (51), China (52), Poland (90), United Kingdom (91), Greece (98), France (99), Canada (102), Spain (103), Italy (104), Australia (112), Germany (126), and Sweden (136).
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-worl...
Absolute drivel.
Take these SOB's down. Leave no stone unturned. Leave no lead uncovered. The organizers like Steven Lerner and Van Jones are communists, and must be destroyed…personally and professionally. The Working Families Party, a front group for SEIU must be outlawed and their assets seized.
re "Inequality in this country has hit a level that has been seen only once in the nation's history, and unemployment has reached a level that has been seen only once since the Great Depression. And, at the same time, corporate profits are at a record high."
This isn't absolute drivel and is supported by about 30 graphs in the article including one from the CIA regarding income disparity in the U.S. and other countries.
The CIA ranks countries based on an index where the higher the index the more disparity in the income. The U.S. ranks 39th (worst) in terms of disparity. It is slightly worse than Iran (41st) and much worse than most other developed countries such as Russia (51), China (52), Poland (90), United Kingdom (91), Greece (98), France (99), Canada (102), Spain (103), Italy (104), Australia (112), Germany (126), and Sweden (136).
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-worl...
Captial is your assests. Everone who has anything ( a piece of bread) has an asset. That asset may be totally used up by debt, or a percentage of that is balanced by debt…. Or it is used for good (piece of bread to be eaten). When you work at a job, your capital is your salary, but your salary represents your to society. Wealth is lots of assets. Assets are earned, and when people don't take propre care of their assets, they lose their assets…I think Canuck's problems are envy and greed, he wants what others have without having to earn anything. That equals entitlements… Capital has been limited to mean only liquid capital, but an asset can be your ability to see things a certain way-management skills, eg Steve Jobs, God rest his soul. It's not fair but since when is anything fair? Besides fair is like beauty it's all in the eye of the beholder.
Let them stay there.
Same thing in Madison, WI. Once those with political savvy realized the moderates were turning away from them they left & most of the tools with them.
Spare me the "disparity" crap, Helen!
Of course there is disparity. That's what makes people strive to do better!
"The middle class is not asking for handouts. The argument is mainly regarding disparity"? Odd, that you can describe "Take from the rich!" that way.
And don't bother comparing disparity in the rest of the world with that in the US. Look at the way a middle class European lives and how a middle class American lives. There is no comparison! Go to PJTV, Bill Whittle, he has a video you should see.
Besides, comparing America and saying we should be like them is ridiculous! Who would help Haiti then? Or Indonesia after a tsunami? How much did you contribute to these things, Helen? Or do you figure the government had it covered so, you don't have to do anything?
You just revealed yourself as non contributory to society again, Opie.
"The e-mail dump is a non-issue. Breitbart had his 15 minutes of fame with Weiner; that's it for him. I have to wonder why the Right is so freaked out by the OWS people."
You dismiss documented evidencce because it does not support what you have made up your mind to believe. That kind of willful blindness leads to harm, not good. Then you attempt to support your dismissal of documented evidence by baselessly dismissing the messenger. A messenger who in addition, had no input or control over the evidence.
Then, you equate Nick's razzing of commenters he doen't like or disagrees with by calling all of you Helen to cruel, ignorant and insenstive behavior by children who hopefully have by now evolved a bit further.
You are not helping.
When you say the gap between rich and poor and the abuse of the have nots by the haves has never been worse, I guess you are not counting the times which necessitated child labor laws and which were the origin of the original unions?
Well said, Nick.
I thought you didn't beleive him? Make up your mind.
Documented evidence that proves what? That the entire OWS was funded by the nefarious Soros? Give me a break. In the beginning, there was a Canadian magazine's suggestion of a protest occupation of Wall Street. All it proves is that a few smart people on the Internet can call for something and, if it captures the public’s imagination, it can get tens of thousands of people out on the streets.
ALL things originate from somewhere.
"Look at the way a middle class European lives and how a middle class American lives."
Why don't you tell us how bad off middle class Europeans are compared to American middle class people? They pay higher taxes and they have access to many social benefits middle class Americans don't.
MY GOD STOP LYING
Care to expand on that?
All you and Canuck do is lie. You have yet to say anything remotely resembling truth. Yet anyone present you with truth–and you ignore it or deflect it.
Pathetically ignorant.
LOL…and you just call everything we post a lie without proving it as such.
Tell me again exactly what Breitbart has "unearthed" that wasn't already known? I mean the true stuff, not the nutter stuff.
A few smart people on the internet? Again, you appear to be willing only to see what you want and interpret things only the way you want. Which means nothing anyone can say is going to penetrate that wall if it goes against your predetermined viewpoint. I'm sure you think the same is true of me. We might as well be from two different planets.
Okay. Stop moving the goalposts and just admit you're wrong and stupid.
Seriously, what is it you're trying to say? That the OWS is backed by anti-Americans? That all people involved are being manipulated or brainwashed? You throw out WORDS, but often don't SAY anything. Be direct. What's your point?
That one made me smile. It seems to be a stock answer among the Breitbots. "Just admit you're wrong," because you've lost track of what the subject is.
Yeah…whatever skippy.
There's just no talking to you people. The coil my dog just left is smarter than you–and more honest.
The TEAT Party. They suffer from TEAness Envy.
My comments concerned you, not the OWS protesters.
As to the protesters, I'm not sure. I thought Dennis Miller on O'Reilly had a good point when he said that if he were their (typical) age he would have probably been there too. I always have to recall what I used to think and feel as well as what I currently feel before I make too many judgements. I haven't talked to any of the protesters. I gather and assume they are typical products of circumstances and human nature.
Do I think they are brainwashed and manipulated? The potential is there, the emotion is there, the frustration and anger and desire for drama and to feel like a hero and want to make a difference and to grab free stuff and all the array of human emotion is there.
What a feeding ground for those who wish to manipulate others for their own purposes. What would you expect to happen?
Please go here, Helen. http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=56
Try it. You might learn something.
**rimshot/cymbal**
Yes, Nicky, 99% of all Americans have a refrigerator. Many of those come with rented apartments. Praise the Lord and thank our lucky stars; we're not so poor after all. The Heritage Foundation is always my first source for unbiased, honest information.
rats occupying wall street….Where is the story here?
The MSM needs a total discreditation and prosecution and liberal universities need to be spounged from the landscape..
Blame your corrupt government who were lobbied from Wall Street and set this mess into motion, especially the hypocritcal Democrats.
false argument..
"In any large group, there are going to be people who are lazy scammers scammers and then those who just cannot make it financially due to many circumstances. "
Not "99%" of them.
Oh, I see. You are of the, everybody deserves a house crowd.
Is that right, Helen? What do you find fault with in the video? The fact that America's poor are way better off than the rest of the world's poor? That's still a bad thing to you?
What do you think of Jackson's plan to pay everyone out of work $40K a year? Would you be happy with that too? What do you think the people currently working for $40K a year will think about that plan?Hell, people making $60K a year for work will give up work for $40K free, don't you think? You know damn well they will!
Praise the Lord, indeed. Your whole rationale for protesting is envy, pure and simple. But, it's envy that makes us do better also. You just want it handed to you and anyone with half a brain can figure out that will only work for a little while. Just like every socialist system ever devised. Then nobody has refrigerators.
Straw man, Nicky, to equate that believing everyone (in the richest country in the world) should have a refrigerator to believing everyone should have a house. That the poor in this country are not as poor as those in Africa is something the 'poor' should be thankful for, right? Oh, those "poor " – such ungrateful people.
I haven't heard about Jackson's plan, but if you're telling the truth, it's a bad plan, of course and would never become law. I want nothing handed to me since I'm doing just fine financially. But I do have concern for those who try to do their best, but aren't as fortunate as me, or those who are down on their luck.
Their endowments must be taxed if they want to continue to teach their nonsense.
Me erecting the straw man, Helen? You brought up accomodations.
You just haven't figured out there will always be the poor. Always. In any political system. And there will be the rich. The good thing about America is that it allows anyone to be rich. Socialist systems? Not so much.
Talk about straw men! How about comparing apples with apples. How do America's poor stack up against those in Europe? How about Russia? Did you even look at the video? Did you understand it? Find me a link that refutes the Heritage Foundation and I will look at it.
You say you are doing fine financially. Have you written a check for an extra payment to the IRS lately? Given a lot to charity have you? Beyond the standard deduction? Did you give even that much?
I rather doubt either of those things happened.
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