There have been accusations of violence flying everywhere since the dreadful healthcare bill was passed on Sunday night. It’s certainly true tensions are running high, just like they have been for an entire year. And for good reason. Many of our freedoms as Americans were stripped away when healthcare passed. But are the threats of violence just a charade to distract Americans from learning about what the massive healthcare bill really does? I think so.
Could you imagine what would happen if someone set fire to, say, Nancy Pelosi’s church? (Does she even go to church?)
Or what if a Congressman who supported healthcare reform was beaten up so badly that he had to have stitches on his eye? How about if a Congressman’s car window was shot out because he opposed healthcare reform?
The same media so excited to rush to protect the “defenseless” Congressmen barely mentioned that someone set Sarah Palin’s church on fire or that private citizens in California were personally harassed and targeted for simply suggesting that there should be a ballot initiative on marriage, or for donating to it.
That’s right, Sarah Palin’s church was damaged by arson after the 2008 election. One man in Modesto, CA was beaten to a pulp because he was handing out “Yes on Prop 8” stickers and a pastor’s car was shot up because he also supported a ban on gay marriage.
But you never heard liberal activists described as “domestic terrorists” did you? Of course not. That privilege goes to the far-left media and those who decided to ram healthcare down our throats.
Congressman Eric Cantor, the House Republican Whip, whose own office was hit by what police say was a stray bullet at days ago in Virginia said yesterday that the Democrats are needlessly and “dangerously fanning the flames by suggesting that these incidents be used as a political weapon.”
I agree. Not only are the Democrats acting like cowards but they are deliberately trying to distract the public from what’s really in the healthcare bill that they passed without ever reading.
“Read the bill,’” said Rep. John Conyers. “What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”
Anyone in the public eye has war stories. There’s no need to call a press conference over a nasty email or phone call.






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Church burnings we all know those are historically democratic tactics….
[ Eli's Hammer ] Arson is a felony. Arson while people are in the church is an aggravated felony I believe…carrying enhanced sentencing. One (s) who did this will get many-many-many years in prison. More than for some types of murder charges. As they should! Quicker they are caught and beaten (kidding sorta) jailed the better.
I'm a left winger for sure…but this is bad mojo no matter who did it. So let the ignorant asses rot in prison.
Exactly — and not only Sarah Palin's church in Dec 2008… but Perry's governor's mansion in Texas was firebombed and gutted in June 2009, and 2 community organizers were caught red-handed trying to firebomb the RNC delegates 8 weeks prior to Palin's church firebombing. These are organized and coordinated violent actions.
The 2 activists caught even made Molotov cocktails with a crude napalm mixture so it would continue to burn and not be wiped off. How creepy is that? The FBI informant was given death threats by another activist and another arrest was made. Wade Rathe condemned the informant as a "rat".
Another transgender democratic activist, Maurice Swenkler (?) was caught red-handed smashing windows on a democratic HQ office in Colorado for the admitted purpose of smearing Republicans and the Tea Party activists, and pleaded guilty Dec 2009.
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[ Eli's Hammer ] Yep…at least in the south. The infamous "Dixie-crats" of yore burned many a church. Nowdays their offspring just burn the poor. The Dixie-crats were hella conservative and hell 'christian' (small c to me)…and hella 'moral majority' types. But they were indeed, Democrats. Same with the KKK (klan) in those days.
Tit for tat just isn't it.
Everyone who commits violence or vandalism is wrong, and anyone who does so in an effort to influence a political/social situation, or to punish a person or place who doesn't share your political beliefs is at the very least bordering on committing a minor act of domestic terrorism (and some acts aren't so minor). That the other side does it, too, or that someone on the other side once did something worse doesn't absolve the guilty folks on your side…
It's not subjective. Violence/vandalism is wrong, period.
Yes — Maurice Schwenkler in Denver convicted of fake hate crime Dec 2009 for trying to implicate conservatives in fake attack on dem HQ in August 2009.
The attack on RNC national convention in Sept 2008 included a bus load of community organizing anarchist activists from Austin, TX. One of them was an informant who alerted the FBI firebombing attack. Wade Rathke supported the group and afterwards called the informant a "Rat" for turning them in, leading to their arrest before they could carry out their firebombing. Death threats were made against the informant during the trial and another arrest was made of that individual.
There's good reason to call the MSM the treason media. Their failure to alert the public to these acts of violence and call them out endangers us all by leaving us blindsided.
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[ Eli's Hammer ] I do have this feeling, on this particular incident, and where it is happening…that we're probably going to find that it was the work of some bored Alaska kids (or young people better)…and if not that, a disgruntled husband or the like. I'll be kind of surprised if it turns out to be either left or right wing activists. Don't matter though, they got to go down for it anyway.
Violence is absolutely wrong but silence of the people against a blossoming totalitarian regime would be the equivalent of the silent ignorance that led to Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia…
Remember the poem that ends with "When they came for me, nobody was there to speak for me…"?
This is what is happening today in America…
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[ Eli's Hammer ] But the MSM (main street media) WERE alerted. FOX news is, by its own standards, the MSM. Their ratings place them at the top of the MSM in fact. CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, Wall Street Journal are all but history. FOX, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, even Breitbart here and Drudge are the new mainstream. They are the status quo of the 2010's…Just like the TEA Party is the status quo.
Now one could say that the LSM (lame street media) didn't release enough data on the firebombings and that would be more correct.
Lets see the MSM media pick this up……
Violence can be self defense, politically. If the government is controlled by the enemy and my side is subjected to violence, you bet I'll be looking for a way to register my disaproval, by whatever means is feasible.
Ignore the Lying Leftist Old Media completely – they are propagandists, not reporters -more and more Americans tune them out every day…
…we have, thank God, the New Media of the Internet which is our powerful 21st century tool to fight tyranny – let's use it !
It seems the media is getting even more biased as the election nears. This reminds me of when Obama was running. The media gave up all pretense of being objective and went all in with Obama. I fear with the next election coming up the media is trying to get the Democrats in a good spot. Stuff like this stinks of that.
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I'm inclined to doubt that. We have some strange people up here, real political fanatics who support Obama and any sort of Communist/Socialist politician who comes down the pike.
"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.
-Martin Luther King Jr.- "
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." –Sir Winston Churchill
What if they gave a war and nobody came?
Why then the war will come to you!
He who stays home when the fight begins
And lets another fight for his cause
Should take care:
He who does not take part
In the battle will share in the defeat.
Even avoiding battle will not avoid Battle,
since not to fight for your own cause really means
Fighting in behalf of your enemy's cause.
– Bertolt Brecht (1898 – 1956)
"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Nations and peoples who forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms. — Robert Heinlein"
[ Eli's Hammer ] Ya I agree. Coastal and logging areas have their own breed of folks…most of them really OK with me. But there are a few radicals as well…and being sequestered as one is in these locales, one can get a little cabin feverish about things.
A powerful cartoon showing “Congressional Abuse” and what it is doing to "Liberty" in this country at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/category/libert... Unfortunately the media is enabling this abuse by their bias reporting.
If you haven't seen this yet it is worth a look!
Organized like Weather Underground and Bill Ayers.
Are they trumping up a reason to use their final solution?
Those are some great quotes……..Thank You!
I am 56 years old, and remember the beginning of the civil rights movement. I remember that many family friends and conservatives I knew were sympathetic to the early "negro" complaints, even if they were otherwise somewhat racist in their attitude towards black families. In other words, even tho' they didn't want to personally socialize with blacks, they were nonetheless sympathetic to their cause, and believed ALL men & women in this country should be able to lead lives of dignity.
That was NEVER true regarding liberals /progressives. They openly fought against equal rights for minorities. Then in the early 70s they learned to change their tune, if not their actual feelings. They *pretended* to sympathize with the plight of minorities, all the while arguing for government programs designed to keep them in their place, which was inevitably at the bottom of the socio-political rung, and built ugly, cramped public housing monstrosities with taxpayer dollars to keep them in the ghetto. It was an utter disaster for poor black and Hispanic families, a tragedy that continues to bear scars and angry wounds two generations later.
It was always the Democrats, and never true conservatives who participated in the KKK and similar vicious activities aimed at keeping minorities (and later, conservatives and Christians) in their place.
It is the same today. We need to forcibly change the rhetoric. We need to turn it right back on them. These people are selfish, insecure and do not understand truth, let alone speak it. Everything to them is simply a means to an end. We need to actively reach out to all disaffected minorities, not by giving them more "entitlements," but by offering them dignity, liberty and the hand of fellowship in social circles which emphasize honor, dignity and worthiness based on their unique contributions to their neighborhoods. They will respond over time, because most men and women crave to be recognized for their contributions, and not their whining.
Liberals reward whining and temper-tantrums with fiat benefits that are transient at best; Conservatives reward incentive and hard work with fellowship and true self-esteem. Guess which method will build the most loyal and lasting coalition.
“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?” Social promotions didn't prepare me for things like reading bills.
John Conyers
Was George Washington a terrorsist?
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"Those who beat their swords into plows will end up plowing for those who don't."
(I have no idea who originally said this)
Violence and the left go together like apple pie and vanilla ice cream. From the French, Bolshiviek, Chinese, Cuban, and Cambodiam revolutions the first order of business was kill, kill, and kill some more.
The President’s over-the-top post-ObamaCare ‘victory’ rhetoric was unprecedented AND unpresidented.
Anyone can see it was Obama’s disdain for We the People that has created the American backlash.
The President's over-the-top post-ObamaCare 'victory' rhetoric was unprecedented and unpresidented.
Nancy Pelosi can't go to church because evil sizzles on holy ground. It would be like a scene of a vampire in the sun.
Oddly, your post is the only one google brings up with that sentence. Volokh has a variation.
Strange, I know I've seen that online.
You're welcome.
I hang out with some questionable people at times. Very bad influence, no doubt.
Farxists have always used violence to get their evil in place.
What's a Farxist you may ask. Well a Fascist and a marxist combined.
"Beware the Marxist/Fascist axis, their excrement smells the same".
whoops answered to another article, nope not drinking, They ought to get Madcow, Shiltz, and Mr pee up the leg, and post them somewhere to contadict, I was told a long time ago there would be a day when right would be wrong and wrong right, here we are: We dont need a broom to clean house we need a vacum cleaner:
And So it begins,… CIVIL WAR II
WE THE PEOPLE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE&fe...
The Barry Soetoro Dossier2.MP4:
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Just an fyi – The reason Joe Biden is the VP. Can we say " 1963 Dallas TX Kennedy insurance"?
OGolly, great comment, keep posting!
A little history courtesy of a poster named Talen, his work, I'm reposting it.
Democrats fought against anti-lynching laws.
Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, is well known for having been a “Kleagle” in the Ku Klux Klan.
Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.
Democrats passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Republicans.
Democrats declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than vote for a Republican, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.
Democrat President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.
Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s first appointment to the Supreme Court was a life member of the Ku Klux Klan, Sen. Hugo Black, Democrat of Alabama.
Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s choice for vice president in 1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Ku Klux Klan in Kansas City in 1922.
Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Republican efforts to pass a federal law against lynching.
Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the armed forces.
Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Democrats supported and backed Judge John Ferguson in the case of Plessy v Ferguson.
Democrats supported the School Board of Topeka Kansas in the case of Brown v The Board of Education of Topeka Kansas.
Democrat public safety commissioner Eugene “Bull” Connor, in Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.
Democrats were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protesters were fighting.
Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox “brandished an ax hammer to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.
Democrat Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.
Democrat Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of Little Rock public schools.
Democrat Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act.
Democrat President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King.
Democrat President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI.
Democrat President Bill Clinton’s mentor was U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright, an Arkansas Democrat and a supporter of racial segregation.
Democrat President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in 1966-67.
Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto opposing the Supreme Court’s 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.
Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Southern Democrats opposed desegregation and integration.
Democrat Senator 1964 – Senator Al Gore Sr. votes against Civil Rights Act.
We MUST fight back.
http://www.gop.com/firepelosi/
If we could send just $5 dollars a piece it would make a difference. Come on people we CAN do it.
The Maggot In Chief just appointed Becker in a recess appointment!!
We MUST fight back.
http://www.gop.com/firepelosi/
If we could send just $5 dollars a piece it would make a difference. Come on people we CAN do it.
The Maggot In Chief just appointed Becker in a recess appointment!!
The history of the party democrat is not one to be proud of. It would be fitting to file a false advertising complaint with the FTC. The name should be the National Demorat Socialist Party. Chew on that for a while, then look up the German Acronym for it. Jamesb, thank you for the history lesson……when slavery was at it apex in the South, there were field slaves and house slaves. Part of being a house slave included disuading the field slaves from running away from the Plantation, lest there be reprisals from the the Master. How ironic, the Congressional Black Caucus is affilated with the Party that championed the White man, while the Republican party was castigated for taking the side of the Slaves.
…and don't forget about the democrat, anti-Bush, anti-tax/IRS nut who flew his plane into an IRS office in Austin, TX and killed one man. Initial reports tried to blame right-wingers, after it was found he was more a leftist, the news media hasn't uttered one peep about the story, even though the building may have to come down due to the damage.
You ninny. No one here is excusing bad behavior "because the other side does it, too." We are decrying the hypocrisy of the media who "reports" violence (much of it unprovable and much of it perpetrated by the Democrats) and ignoring what has happened to conservatives.
Weve been trying to pass a health care bill for a hundred years..senile john dingell who seems to forget that he and his kkk budies would not vote for nixons bill , with the same objectives in the mid 70's,
I assume Kenneth Gladney would like to put his two cents in about undercoverage as well…
In Oct. 2007 a Code Pink lunatic attacked Condoleezza Rice – http://sweetness-light.com/archive/code-pink-luna...
Where was the media outrage then??
To the excellent postings of Jamesb; great stuff. The shame of it is; nearly 100% of school aged children will never learn of this. The excrement salesmen of the left have removed most of history as being told by rich, racist white men. Even if true (and it isn't); does the truth of the history diminish because who was involved? I fear my government more and more each day. I have never felt this concerned about the future of this country, now I dread the next footfall.
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness have been replaced with Sit Down, Shut Up and Do What the Hell I Tell You To. Madison, Jefferson and Hamilton are weeping in the corner.
The history of violence and bigotry is vintage Democrat as Jamesb outlined in his posting. He failed to mention that blacks could vote after the civil war until the Democrats regained the majority in Congress and recinded their right. The obstruction of desegregation in the south in the 60's was all Democrats. The vast majority of Democrats (who controlled the Congress) voted against the Voters Rights Act of 1965; the Republicans made that law happen. I could go on, but you should get the idea. What is absolutely amazing is that the vast majority of blacks continue believe that the Dems are in their friends. They really need to quit listening to their bought-off black leaders and start educating themselves.
EVERYTHING HAS AN OPPOSITE!! If there is a standard, then there is a different standard!!! One defends civility, the opposite defends the uncivil [uncivil [ʌnˈsɪvəl]
adj
1. lacking civility or good manners
2. an obsolete word for uncivilized
uncivility [ˌʌnsɪˈvɪlɪtɪ], uncivilness n
uncivilly adv]……..Even law has an opposite, one is just, the opposite is unjust [un·just (n-jst)
adj.
1. Violating principles of justice or fairness; unfair: "monstrously unjust and socially harmful" (Anna Garlin Spencer).
2. Archaic Faithless; dishonest.]!!! One is limited by justice/fairness, the other is limitless [lim·it·less (lmt-ls)
adj.
Having no limit or limits; unrestricted: limitless authority; the limitless reaches of outer space.] ……NOTE: The ones highlighted with definitions are the ones in power and/or the ones defending them!!!! Moral of the story: Know you're enemy!!! Because they know you, you are limited, they have a vast universe of perversion [perversion - the action of perverting something (turning it to a wrong use); "it was a perversion of justice"] to explore!!!
Jamesb
I would like to copy and repost this on my site with your ok
absolutely sir, it really comes in handy.
Pelosi and church???? Give me a Break! She worships at the alter of Butox! Is there anything real on this Biotch????
She should be called buttface! When she burps does that mean she farts???
Notice: he is rushing this thing through in a hurry so they think were not aware, he is even dishing his own Party that got him elected, doesnt consult with them, he thinks there stupid. Of course then theres Joey Biden???????
hippiecon- you did get all four posts right? just checking. I just cite "talon", he did the work. I had seen it before but it was last year.
nice job.
Yes I can
uhhhhh I mean yes i did
get them outta my brain
must get frontal lobotomy
At least until Obama starts to censor it.
forus on the dangers of "what is IN the bill"……… not fringe stuff. ! Obama/Pelosi are wrecking our Nation…….report on it. Work at it. Report it. sorry, this is just "lazy" reporting.
Hitler had his followers start the Reichstag fire in order to fan the flames of unrest, and reach a desired political goal. Demonrat operatives have been caught red-handed commiting crimes they intended to frame the Right with. COINCIDENCE? I don't think so.
We will get him (out of office) before he gets us….God willing….
I've never started a fight, but I won't run from one.
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"Many of our freedoms as Americans were stripped away when healthcare passed"
Will you please list the many freedoms which were stripped away?
Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who kept their swords -Benjamin Franklin
do you really think they will arrest someone??????
If a person,put a bullet into Hitler before the war,he would be a hero…..right?
NOW,in the mind of many,Obama is the new hitler,and I am very surprised that no-one has tried.
Question??? If Obama was killed,would Biden become pres.Secondly,would Pelosi become vice pres ?????
No, they would be an idiot for suggesting that ANYONE do anything to this president, we DO NOT and WILL NOT condone or support violence.
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