We finally have proof that life exists beyond the confines of planet earth, although not necessarily intelligent life. How else can one explain Joe Biden other than to postulate that he comes from another planet, if not an alternate universe? The Vice President’s stunning observation about Iraq last certainly defied any form of earthly logic:
“I am very optimistic about Iraq. I mean, this could be one of the great achievements of this administration.”
Of which administration? Of the administration led by the fellow who, as the junior Senator from Illinois, opposed the surge that turned the war around? That administration? Let us time travel back to 2007, when then-Senator Barack Obama offered his sage opinion about the surge:
We can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops – I don’t know any expert on the region or any military officer that I’ve spoken to privately that believes that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground.
For his part, Biden not only joined Obama in opposing the surge on the floor of the Senate, he did him one better. Joe’s 2006 proposal to partition Iraq into three regions deeply offended most Iraqis and played on fears that the oil-rich northern and southern portions of the country would leave the Sunni-dominated center to whither on the vine. If anything, Biden was responsible for making the war harder to win by inflaming the Sunnis with his goofy plan. Perhaps White House press secretary Robert Gibbs had the partition plan in mind when he tried to explain away Biden’s remarks:
Well, putting what was broken back together and getting our troops home, which we intend to do in August of this year.

That’s great Bob, but the fact is that, thanks to the previous administration and despite the best efforts of the guys now leading yours, no one needed to be put anything back together. Oh, and Bob: that troop withdrawal coming in August? That’s part of a deal that the previous administration worked out the Iraqi government as well.
Biden’s attempt to give the Obama administration credit for victory in Iraq is reminiscent of breakfast cereal commercials from a few decades ago. The camera would show a bowl of some sugary glop, flanked by a glass of orange juice, pitcher of milk, plate of toast and few strips of bacon while the announcer assured viewers that the cereal he was pitching was “part of a complete breakfast.” In reality, the cereal was merely in the vicinity of a complete breakfast. Similarly, the only thing that the Obama administration has accomplished in Iraq is to be fortunate enough to be in the vicinity of victory.
Of course the Vice President was merely following the philosophical lead of his boss: say anything you want to say, because most people aren’t going to remember anything that happened more than 72 hours ago. For example, after declaring in no uncertain terms that the surge could not work back in 2007, candidate Obama had this to say in 2008:
I had no doubt and I said at the time when I opposed the surge that given how wonderfully our troops perform that if we place 30,000 more troops in there then we would see an improvement in the security situation and we would see a reduction in the violence.
Following that backflip, candidate Obama quietly removed criticism of the surge from his website in July 2008. So here we are. The surge that Senator Obama knew couldn’t work, turned into the surge that Senator Obama was sure would work and now – with victory at hand – that surge has miraculously led us to one of the greatest achievements of the Obama administration. Hallelujah! It doesn’t get much more surreal than that. In reality, the only thing that this administration has accomplished in Iraq in managing not to screw up what the military and George W. Bush had put into place. Sadly, given the Obama administration’s propensity for making existing problems worse – when they’re not actually creating brand new ones – finding something that Obama has been unable to screw up may indeed be the high-water mark of his Presidency.






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You are reading Biden's comment improperly:
If Obama can successfully claim credit for winning in Iraq, it would in fact be one of the great achievements of his administration.
He has to look for things done by others to take credit for, as nothing he does himself will ever qualify as a "great achievement".
Well, except maybe for leaving office when his term is up. Which could even qualify him as a good one-term President rather than a mediocre two-term President. I know I think him leaving in 2013 would be a much greater achievement than him leaving in 2017, but I digress.
-Sam
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Mr. Trzupek,
By the time this Administration is run out of town, they will have taken credit for winning World War II and saving the world from Nazii Fasism, while simultaneously blaming the Bush Administration for the Custer Massacre.
BUT WHERE IS OBAMA BIN LADEN ? er osama..
I thought it was ALL a failure unless he was given Miranda Rights and a lawyer…
No-one's buying what they're selling anymore.
The Great Fabricator is at it again…
One-termer for sure. There are even hints and rumors coming from the core Dem leadership that he won't even get his parties nomination in 2013, if things keep going down hill like they are, on his watch. THEY will make sure he doesn't get a chance to continue his disaster of a presidency, and the destruction of the Dem party.
I don’t know any expert
He lives to cite those experts. Military, economics, climatologists, healthcare, whatever.
The experts he talks to always seem to agree with him. He's that good.
Yes, it would be an achievement to end the war while starting the war was treason. Bush should be in jail for that and tried for treason.
Saving the world from Nazi Fascism to make it safe for Soviet Fascism.
finding something that Obama has been unable to screw up may indeed be the high-water mark of his Presidency
You get two thumbs up for that line – boffo!
This is going to be the standard playbook of Obama and his minions. When things go wrong, you blame Bush. When things go right, you take credit for yourself, even if Bush was responsible. This way, you can't lose. They pitched Obama as the smart one, remember? Columbia, Harvard Law and all of that rot. They banged on McCain because he finished near the bottom of his class at Navy. What was Obama's class rank in college? Thats right, we don't know. Obama refused to release his transcripts.
I'm sorry I just didn't know that voting present counted in the War on wackos. My mistake, happy the admin corrected me on that little techy thingy.
He may decide not to run for a second term, but if he does, the only way he won't get the nomination is an ugly primary, remember Kennedy & Carter.
But I think we'll start seeing democrats jockeying for a possible primary challenge. Rush already said to keep an eye on Clinton. Especially if she announces she's resigning for the state dept. for some inane reason or another. That would be a sure sign of at least getting positioned for a run.
I'm not sure who else they really have. So many of the leaders have gone down in flames over the last 8 years. Kerry had his shot and blew it. Edwards is out. Gore's gone. Biden can't run as an opponent, he'd have to resign first. And so many of the congress people couldn't even get half a cup of cold coffee outside their own districts.
This is just more of the liberal la-la land gibbering. They like to take credit for the good deeds of others and misplace the blame for their own mistakes. What was once “The buck stops here!” has become “What buck, I haven't seen any buck? We don't need no stinking bucks!”.
Since you weren't paying attention: Iraq was openly and publically threatening the US and our allies- violating 27 UN Resolutions and attempting to shoot down our planes, for over a decade. The fact that Saddam didn't have the fully operational weapons to make a nuke or a chem warhead for his illegal long-range missiles is a matter for experts to ponder why he would have been so stupid.
Meanwhile, the President did exactly what an actual leader is supposed to do: evaluate the threat in light of the known and knowable facts. In a post 9-11 world, it would have been foolishly irresponsible for him to sit idly by any longer than he did.
You reveal yourself to be a person of marginal intellect to suggest otherwise. You only criticize Bush because you hate him; not because you have any understanding of the merits of the policies in these matters.
Isn't he working in the White House Communications Dept.?
Who cares? So long as CFR controls the candidate selection process it won't matter one bit.
Yes.
Now that you mention it, I do.
Since you brought up SNL, do you see any resemblance between Eddie Murphy's "Buckwheat" and Obama?
I mentioned the Kennedy-Carter scenario to a friend who worries about a second term just last night.
I see it as highly probably right now, though I think a lot more is going to depend on this year's elections, and how reduced Democratic control of Congress is "spun" for the year and a half following the next Congress coming into session.
If everything WRONG is Bush’s fault then everything GOOD also belongs to Bush too doesn’t it.
Biden wanted 3 separate states and Obama voted against the surge so the VICTORY now goes to Bush!
gibbs is a younger algore, fat and sloppy, arrogant, and dishonest!!!!!! SOS
Although BHO dos resemble Buckwheat, I think he may be more like Velvet Jones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzY3QV6MkGs
Little Big Horn? Hell, the Bush admin caused the Black Death, the Fourth Ice Age and the extinction of the dinosaurs!
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No, that's Baghdad Bob.
They seem more like polar opposites.
Murphy's Buckwheat = Watchable for more than 30 seconds
Obama's Obama = Unwatchable for more than 15 seconds
Murphy's Buckwheat = Showed up no more than once a week
Obama's Obama = We should be so lucky
Murphy's Buckwheat = Comprehensible, albeit strong dialect
Obama's Obama = Incomphensible, albeit strong (Marxist) dialectic
This administration would claim that they were responsible for the favorable outcome of the entire War on Terror… Oops I mean 'Overseas Contingency Operation' if they could. This is an administration that has very few, if any, good deeds to point to. So they have to ripoff the successes of the previous admin to keep their head above. It makes me SICK!
But of course nobodies buying it. Gee what a surprise!
I believe it's Gibbs Bin Obama..Head bootlick and spokeshole..
Well, at least those dinosaurs rotted down into plankton, and created the hydrocarbon age……
I agree, however, Gibbs probably has a bit less credibility… another possibility would be having Obamao ("let me be clear") play Garrett Morris's character who repeats the news for the hearing impaired- "OUR TOP STORY TONIGHT". LOL
These idiots seem to think that this is the 1970's. We have the internet now and things these idiots say become the tattoos they will carry for life. Their ignorance is only amplified when they make incredulous statements like how THEY won the Iraq war. Give me an Effing break, they really can't believe we are nearly as stupid as those who put them in office!!!
Really now, it's called reality, get some!
Gibbo the Clown truly is a spinmeister. I would love to know what prison they bailed this lying ass dawg out of? At least the man is consistent—If his lips are moving you can believe he's full of shee-it!
your trying to reason with an idiot? good luck
"Sadly, given the Obama administration’s propensity for making existing problems worse – when they’re not actually creating brand new ones – finding something that Obama has been unable to screw up may indeed be the high-water mark of his Presidency."
Kudos to Mr. Trzupek for so eloquently summarizing the administration's accomplishments.
Sometimes wars are GOOD things.
"…the cereal was merely in the vicinity of a complete breakfast."
Three more years of Froot Loops…
Thank god "THE CHOSEN ONE" cleared up that whole Iraq war thing for us Sheeple. Watch the other hand!
I already have an idea on how that goes. If the dems lose any numbers in either house, Obama's people are going to spin it into republican obstructionism. They tried doing it already but until the Brown election, they looked like asses by crying.
If they lose even one seat, that's all we're going to hear for the next two years – everything is the GOPs fault.
Which by the way, helps Obama out immensely. He won in 2008 by running against Bush. Despite the fawning MSM's
opinionreports that he's a positive campaigner, if you really pay attention, he's very passive aggressively negative campaigner.Should the GOP take one or both houses, Obama has an opponent to begin campaigning against. And he will with a vengeance.
I did that survey about grading Obama's first year, and actually gave him a D for Iraq just because he hadn't messed it up yet. I was feeling generous and gave him another D for Afghanistan since he did send more troops, but everything else was a F.
On further reflection, I regret the D for Afghanistan; it should have been a F too.
Iraq, Ha! That's small potatoes for the man who "healed the earth" and turned back those ever encroaching seas just by getting elected.
Obama's only regret in Iraq is that they hung that old coot Saddam before he could bow, curtsey and genuflect before him.
I bet little Joey Biden's favorite taunt when he was 9 years old was, "I'm rubber, you're glue, everything you say bounces back and sticks to you. Yah Yah Yah!" This guy is a joke masquerading as Veep. When his term is done in 2013, he will disappear in to the gloamin to hang out with Daschle, Reid, and Rostenkowski and the other fallen Dem hacks.
Harry Ried: Mr. President, the war is lost! Obama before the Bush surge: It will make Iraq worse. Boy,good to know the libs have such great forward thinking men in their party!! LOL
Absurd, but invites the following question. In fact, should be a contest:
Name what is, or will be, the most significant accomplishment of the Obama administration:
My votes, for shear amazement factor, are:
1. Making me miss George Bush.
2. Making me miss Bill Clinton!
Is it racist to quote Obamie being wrong? Just "axing"…………………………REV Wright
Wrong…………Blacks, illegals, and gubment union hacks are "buying" Obamie and will vote Democrat at 120% of registration [ACORN] in 2012. No questions may be "axed".
Dhass's head is going to explode when Israel decides they are done with Iran and their ~ just saying
"one of the great achievements of this administration"
This is the same jackass that said we should "spend our way out of recession."
Here are a few more one liners for ya Joe…
surrender our way to freedom
tax our way to prosperity
drink our way to sobriety
eat our way to fitness
Why do Obama, Biden, Gibbs and the rest of the useless idiots in this administration remind me of one of those circus cars with all the clowns piling out?
The Obama Deception – Full length video
http://usataxpayer.org/?0071119896
HR4530 The Progressive Plan for Your Children
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"Obama war plan" = The Bush surge
OBAMA BIZZARRO WORLD TRANSLATOR…
"adviser" = Czar
"vision" = Marxism
"racist" = Shut up!
"progressive" = Communist
"recovery" = 3 Million jobs lost
"investment" = Deficit Spending
"bi-partisan" = Shut up and agree
"peace process" = Sellout to the Arabs
"jobs bill" = Billions for banker bonuses
"reproductive care" = Tax funded abortions
"road to recovery" = We're heading for the dumper
"tax reform" = Take money from taxpayers to buy votes.
"climate change legislation" = Energy tax to buy votes.
"health care reform" = Government takeover and rationing of health care.
Corruption in Congress
http://usataxpayer.org/?0037628434
Obama's Own Words
http://usataxpayer.org/?0097519370
Peel back the skin of a potato and there is no brain. This is also why there is the continual foot in the mouth syndrome he suffers.
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The real question at hand is: what is President Urkle doing about Iran? Has he assessed that threat? Does he intend to wait until they have a nuke? So far, the little man in Tehran is giving a lot of people reason to shudder. And the President is doing nothing to reassure anyone.
If President Urkle knows that Ahmadinajihad is not a threat – he should tell us. IF, however, he KNOWS the little man in Tehran is a raging lunatic that is very close to having operational nukes, he ought to be actively doing something about it. So far, it looks like our current Co-dependant in Chief is dithering – allowing the little man in Tehran to become a nuclear powered nucklehead.
That is irresponsible. That is not leadership.
If you are going to save 2 million jobs then you are going to have to win Iraq first.
Cmon Rich. You know it. I know it. What I'd like to hear now is that this interest rate hike is "proof that the economy is recovering." Forget the dollar carry trade. Forget the indexes. Forget housing.
This interest rate hike is the proof we've all been waiting on. Proof that markets can move the Fed.
If Dhass's head exploded there would be no mess to clean up.
So true, and so funny! thanks for the laugh
Like the turkey on Christmas Vacation. Hissssssss…………………….
Somewhere a man named Winston Smith is working tirelessly to change the old truth to the new truth as determined by The Party. Old truth is sent down the memory hole and incinerated. New truth is the only truth that has ever been.
Obama knew the surge would work.
Obama led U.S. to victory in Iraq.
2+2=5
That is what I expect too.
The thing is, history has made it very clear that such a tactic simply never works.
When push comes to shove, it is about the economy, and when it tanks, the person in charge gets replaced.
Here is the thing though, what if the economy improves? Do the Democrats then "blame" the Republicans for not letting Obama do whatever he wants?
Clinton managed to pull it off, but he did not run a second time on blame. Can Obama avoid that? I do not think so.
I don't know if Iraq had nuclear weapon capabilitys or not. But didn't he use chemical weapons on the Kurds a time or two??
Yes, he did try to shoot down out planes which were enforcing a UN mandated no fly zone over Iraq to keep Saddam from killing more of the Kurds. Defenceless ?? Iraq had one of the largest militarys in the world at the time.
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This is no different than giving him the Nobel Peace Prize. He is such a nice, charismatic guy, he's gotta get credit for something good. Gotta go get some mouthwash, I just puked in my mouth and I deserve it.
The problem is that he is having to depend on people that he has smeared and demeaned for this information. He probably doesn't trust them, (and if I had said and done what he has to them I wouldn't either). So he doesn't know what to do except blame Bush for everything. Worked so far for a lot of people.
I like those fantum. All that used to be my personal philosophy. If only it had worked. Now I am a slave to the government, broke and fat. I fudged a little. Never have been a drunk.
I see him more as Ackroyd's Bass-A-Matic salesman!
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Does anyone see a resemblance between Gibbs and the SNL character from the 70's named Beldar Conehead?
I have to give credit where credit is due for all the sucess in Iraq, and that my friends is to our troops and a great Commander -in-Chief named George W. Bush. PERIOD!!!!!!!!
Oh yes a lot of people are. There are people so invested on the left, they'll readily abandon reality. I've seen it before and its wild and scary.
I was debating two typical modern liberals, trying to explain that Bush's refusal to turn over White House visitor logs was not destroying the constitution, its just political theater. They insisted I was wrong, so I pointed out Gore did the same thing when he was vice president. One replied that's different, that's private property. I pointed out Al Gore does not own the US Naval Observatory. At which time they congratulated themselves for winning such a dumb debate with a total moron (me).
Trust me, they are buying it. On the upside, they're already sold, so its not any additional votes. Those people are the ones who aren't buying it, and leaving in droves.
Well as long as they're not selling enough to stay in business.
He did. Progs like to say "Saddam was just posing like he had WMD to scare off Iran". Meanwhile, he gassed the Kurds, drained the swamps to punish the marsh Arabs (where was the enviro-nut protesting then?), and tortured, raped and killed men, women and kids who crossed him. (Again, where was NOW, or Amnesty International?)
Now, even the IAEA is saying Iran is getting close to nuclear warhead delivery capability, and both the UN and Obama do nothing.
Actually I was thinking of John Lovitz' compulsive liar Tommy Flanagan…."Yeah, that's the ticket!"
Now my head is filled with SNL sketch parodies:
As Lovitz' Master Thespian – "Governing!"
As Murphy's Gumby in the Obama Story: "I'm Obama, damnit!"
As Murphy's Mr. Robinson in Mr. Obama's Neighborhood: "Well look who is here today, our old pal Bill Ayers! What happened to your arm Bill?" "Oh, just a minor chemistry accident." <laughtrack> <knock on door> "Open up! We know you have our stolen Constitution in there!" <turns and makes a face at the audience> "Oh no, Teabaggers! Until next time children!"
Then Clinton should be in jail for Bosnia? Did Bosnia threaten the United States? Take daily pot shots at our planes? Invade an ally?
Have another glass of Koolaid.
Iraq was no threat to us. Israel is in violation of the UN and has illegal WMDs (unlike Iraq). When do we bomb them?
Attempting to shoot down our planes? They came here and did that?
I know that China forced down one of our military planes and stole the technology out of it while Bush the Supreme Coward did nothing about it. Maybe that is why he felt a need to lash out at defenseless countries.
Iraq as illegally attacked by Israel – a completely unprovoked attack. That is also called "terrorism."
Bush is no different than Obama.
I thought Gibbs sounded familiar……
let wing playbook…
Take credit for everything that works. Blame everyone else for all that fails. Deliver partisan speeches that torture any semblance of the truth. Dissemble. Attack the attackers. Make it personal.
Repeat…
If muslim Ubama could have it his way he would say he was the cause of 6 millions jews getting gassed in WW-II
D-bagg, I love how you project your inane assumptions onto almost every thread, enjoying the 'mental masturbation' that you create for yourself.
Your quote of "the bankers love it" is your code for "It's all the JOOOOOOOZ fault".
Pony.Trick.Single.
You lose.
And Biden has the gall to accuse Cheney for re-writing history!
Guest who, I'd also like to add that Bush followed the legal protocol of this country. He petitioned Congress for the right to go to war.
D-bagg does not understand our country, nor does he understand reality.
Fecal matter is a hell of a mess.
seriously, give the whole "Jussss axing" a rest. It degrades the level of discourse in this site. While I understand the whole "ebonics" issue, there's no need. really. If you have a positive thing to add to the material at hand, We'd welcome it.
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Can anyone prove that Joe Biden is a real person and not some fabrication of Hollywood? Is it possible for anyone to be as stupid as Joe Biden? Joe Biden is Forrest Gump minus the integrity and decency of Gump. Also can someone explain to me why people refer to him as Plugs?
As Ed said the product has been bought with that deposit on Part Deux (the blame on a different name). The sad part is the revisionists who retell what Bush did or did not do, remember when Bush out of the gate sat and drank with Teddy when we got the No Child Left Behind (oh, I forgot they're saying he never reached across).
Broadhead Gibbs has Space for Lease in prime real estate location…lies for pay…COMMUNISM: THE BIG LIE!
Marxists never smoke what they're selling. They just take what you're selling and smoke it jofully while mocking you for producing it.
Regardless who lays claim to any victory in Iraq, it's a complete fallacy and fabrication regardless. There was no connection to 9/11 or WMD's, a complete fabrication. GWB used his bully pulpit to complain any Dem's that objected to unbridled spending in the hundreds of billions without a timeline for an exit strategy were labeled unpatriotic. So GWB in his last of act as president signed new SOFA (status of forces agreement) stating our troops must leave within the timeline of 18 months. Another words, the same timeline the Dem's pushed for many years. I guess that was another example of landing on a carrier with banners flying stating 'Mission Accomplished' but not for many years to come! I'm a 2 tour combat veteran, but we went to war based on all lies! Period. Both parties are at fault.
And the Medieval Warming period with all those evil oil-consuming SUVs.
No, it's more like "give me all your bucks, you have too many and you don't need THAT much".
congress voted to go to war. CONGRESS
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