In the wake of yesterday’s tragedy in Austin, it’s certainly worthwhile to ask what caused troubled software engineer Joe Stack to crash a plane into an office building that housed 200 Internal Revenue Service employees. But will the media get the story right? Perhaps, just perhaps, I’ll be blessedly wrong about this, but I don’t think so.

We know how these stories seem to go. The “unbiased” journalists from the old media working in the field first develop the story, establish the “factual record” and – once that job is done – the would-be opinion makers move on, using that “factual” docket to make their pious cases. The narrative has begun, as this AP story demonstrates. Joe Stack hated the IRS, felt that this oft-criticized agency had done him wrong and – the conclusion is easy to see – was therefore another right-wing nut job who went over the edge. He was a victim, if you will, of the hatred and fury that festers within the conservative and libertarian movements. His friends, the AP tells us, never saw it coming:
They never heard Stack talk about politics, about taxes, about the government — the sources of pain that Stack claims drove him to his death.
But, nowhere in this story does the AP drill down any further. If you read Stack’s 3,000+ word on-line suicide note, it’s clear that he didn’t hate the IRS because he despised big-government per se. He hated the IRS because he believed that the agency was in collusion with the ultimate enemy: big business. A few telling examples from Stack’s manifesto:
…the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies… Now when the wealthy f**k up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution… The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.
And, perhaps most telling of all, consider the final two lines of Stack’s post:
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
Conservatives and libertarians frequently, and justifiably, complain that the left distorts our positions and views by cherry-picking the most extreme elements within our movement and using the broadest of brushes to purport that such elements represent everyone even remotely connected with our views. It would be a mistake to do the same thing here in reverse. Joe Stack was clearly a deranged, paranoid extremist, but we should not suppose that he represents liberals, or even liberal rage, as a whole. Joe Stack was over the edge and, as such, his actions represent nothing more than a particular form of paranoid rage.
But as the pundits fire up their keyboards, let’s hope they get at least this right: Joe Stack’s anger was not fueled by the right, it was rather clearly rooted in leftist ideology. To a troubled man and those whose lives he snatched from this earthly realm before their time: rest in peace. To the angry leftists who poured gasoline on this particular fire: please take a look in the mirror before you start pointing fingers.






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I sent this letter to the author of the smear piece on Time.com
Ms. Hylton,
Your article clearly seems to be associating this disturbed man with the Tea Party Movement – even having a link within the article to "The Making of the Tea Party Movement". It is a disgrace and as a citizen who participated in the march, in Washington DC, on 9/12 I have to object to all media outlets that choose to smear our peaceful assembly to petition our government.
Your selective cutting and pasting of his comments tell me all I need to know about your integrity. I feel sorry for anyone that does not do their own thinking and read his rant for themselves. You cannot read his rant and associate him with the tea party movement. We LOVE our country, capitalism and free markets. We do not want to destroy our government we are demanding our elected officials stand up for a smaller, limited government as founded. If they don't meet this demand we will work to get them voted out of Congress. We reject the enormous debt our government is piling on our children and EVERY person I met at the rally, EVERY sign I saw therefore REJECTED the universal health care bill that this troubled man is upset was not passed. I could point out several more glaring examples after reading his rant ONE time – Did you read it? He sums up his rant praising communism and a rejection of capitalism – THAT is the ANTITHESIS of the tea party movement. The ONLY similarity I could find is a hatred of the tax code – I am sorry but I don't think I could find 1/2 of 1 % of the population that does like our tax code! Please take a second right now ask yourself in response to my letter – is this not why the news business/media is dying and is so mistrusted. "The only thing worse than lying to other people is lying to yourself" I don't know who said this but trust me – it applies to you
PS – Try posting anything that code pink or PETA might find objectionable and see if you receive any thoughtful, concerned letters with the restraint and respect I have given to you and your news organization in the face of you smearing this stay at home mother and a heck of a good citizen if I do say so myself.
Less than five minutes.
They already did that, YESTERDAY……….
If you read the comments at HuffPo, they're already trying to figure out a way to turn this nutjob into a rightwing wacko.
Excellent letter Christine. Thank you for sending it. Regardless whether it falls on blind eyes and deaf ears or not, it is important for us to express our opinions to the opposition just to let them know we are on to them and watching.
"How long will it take the Media to transform a Left wing nut into a Right wing nut" they already have see http://www.infowars.com/news-that-joe-stack-was-n...
Q: How long will it take for the MSM spin on this story to be irrelevant and ignored by the wide-awake American public ?
A: Instantly.
Yea, were, already had a few trolls make that claim around mere, Newsbustes, had a piece yesterday showing that professional journalist Sanchez on CNN show a nine minute clip, with no mention of the capatioist, communist, quitees he made…sSnef
Well Done Christine!
wldbil, you drinking again…? Spelling counts. ; )
Great work Christine! When things go bad we write letters, vote, make signs and give politicians the "what for", that's why I'm proud of you – keep it up! We don't pick up a weapon to prove a point, we grab a megaphone!
…but we should not suppose that he represents liberals, or even liberal rage, as a whole…
True, he was much more coherent.
He's just a nut. His philippic diatribe goes all over the political spectrum. He was just insane. Associating him with either party or sect is wrong.
That being said, this current administration is making the near-nuts go over the edge.
It's interesting that we want to investigate why he did this, his background, etc., but we did not do that with the muslim terrorist at Fort Hood, did we? hmm hmm hmm.
I don't think the usual spin will work anymore. The msm is tanking faster than their leader in the White House. The internet rules now.
Excellent letter, Christine, and very eloquently written also. You said it better than I ever could. I'm glad you wrote it and sent it. All it takes is for one of these letters to jar someone into reality. We must keep calling them out on their lies.
OK folks, it's a great letter, so where's your thumbs up for Christine!?
This was obviously Bush's fault!
huh?
Truth be told, I haven't seen anyone spin this toward "right wing nut" yet. We'll see what happens. He's a nut, plain and simple I think the MSM attempting to link him to the Tea Party movement or the "right" would be unconsionable, though I don't think Mr. Trzupek gains the moral high ground by pre-emtivly accusing the guy of of being a leftist. I've read the whole 3000 word rant, and it's basically a long anti-government rant. There is a wide variety of criticism that I've heard come from all political circles. Mr. Trzupeck is engaging in preemtive character-assassination. "The MSM is going to unfairly characterize this guy as a conservative, so I'm going to unfairly characterize him as a liberal" I'm dissapointed, the articles on this site are typically a lot better than this. Shame.
Liberals don't kill people, guns kill people.
Disregard. The first version of your post I read was all jumbled – probably the transmission was garbled by the vast left-wing conspiracy in my laptop. Looks fine now.
Combine this obviously whacko leftist with the professor in Alabama who was obsessed with Obama and we have 2 radical, Leftist murderers in 1 week. And in both cases the MSM is trying to blame their acts of unspeakable violence on Right-Wing extremism and the Tea Party. I'm not surprised. I'm just fed up and tired and ready to give up in the face of impossible odds. How can we fight this kind of blind, wanton ignorance and pathological lying?
" And in both cases the MSM is trying to blame their acts of unspeakable violence on Right-Wing extremism and the Tea Party"
Got a source on that? I haven't seen it happen. I'm not saying they aren't capable of it, but just haven't seen it.
With Big Journalism/ Hollywood/ Government – and a sense of humor and a six-pack.
And, a six-shooter, if necessary…. ; )
I just finished reading this nuts manifesto; this guy is all over the place politically and very confused…I'm ecclosing the final paragraph and notice especially the last 2 lines…SEZ IT ALL
"I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let's try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed."
Joe Stack (1956-2010)
02/18/2010
A DEFINITE "LEFT WING NUT"….
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What shallow comments and mindless spin as put on this event! The man was distraught, disturbed, and uncontrollably convinced that he had NO POWER over his own destiny due to government actions which were favoring Business over the citizens. In his circumstances, he is correct. Most will neither do the investigation or were not aware of the business event by Congress in 1986 that created his hell on earth…as well as that of thousands in his same circumstances.
The fact…..IBM Corporation headquartered in NEW YORK STATE wanted concessions in trade taxation in order to grow their overseas operations …. to make global markets cheaper to themselves. The lobbied powerfully Sen. Pat Moynihan of New York for such tax treatment. The impact upon the US tax receipts from this change would have cost $60 million in revenue give ups. Because, the rule was that if you gave up money, you had to go find money to pay for it…Moynihan found a tax situation where independent contractors (as opposed to employees of companies) were given a special consideration regarding tax status. This was to help the growing IT business, and was a success..but Moynihan decided to add a provision to the huge 1986 Tax Reform Act in Congress to close that special situation…..but it was to HELP BIG BUSINESS…AT THE EXPENSE OF THE INDEPENDENT PROGRAMMERS. Only about 30,000 programmers were actually getting the tax advantage at the time….so when later if turned out that the consequences were too harsh on the individuals, and the revenue generated from them was too little to matter….MOYNIHAN TRIED to repeal the provision….but congress was afraid of opening up the entire Bill to any other demands for CHANGE…so they did NOTHING….and that is where it stands TODAY…..BAD LEGISLATION from the mouth of the originator….but no help for the programmers…..THIS WAS PART of what caused the outsourcing of programming to INDIA and loss of thousands of IT jobs in AMERICA…..during the Y2K computer change out panic of the late 1990s…there were not enough independent contractors left, so they brought in foreigners…who turned out to be cheaper…so BIG BUSINESS outsource all the jobs overseas!
THIS IS the REAL issue…..an issue in FACT…..and this poor soul just could not take anymore his failure (as well as that of thousands of legal professionals and organizations to try to get Congress to revisit this deal)…so he took the suicide way out….he was dealing with the IRS….who had an unsympathetic ear to the issue, and clearly the legislature was too busy fooling with healthcare and environmental issues to worry about a section of citizens that HAD JOBS and lost them due to this foolishness. So the IRS may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, but the issue was in the Congress and it's failure…and the special considerations given to IBM and"big business"….On top of that, the DAY BEFORE HE GAVE UP….Obama announced plans to tighten down even MORE on these independent businesses….while he gives LIP SERVICE to creation of JOBS.
So forget about petty "tea party" or "birther" or "truther" or conspiracy claptrap arguments…..this guy was NOT POLITICAL….he was a CITIZEN that GAVE UP on ALL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THEY ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY BIG BUSINESS AND THE UNIONS……AND HE WOULD BE RIGHT!!
That anal orifice that posts as Anon alreadly made that claim. I'm waiting for Das and the Fonz to blame it on the Jews.
Thank you, Christine. More of this needs to happen, often.
What makes him "left" or "right"? Maybe you guys need to define what you mean. If opposing the bailouts is left-wing I have a feeling there are a lot more left wingers than you are comfortable with. These labels are blinding you all.
Now THAT guy was a left-winger. Look how much he grew government!
I actually felt very sad when I read his 'suicide note'. I fought the IRS for 5 years over, and this is not a misprint, for overpaying my taxes one quarter. Yes, overpaying. It was their typo, they put the correct number in fed taxable income then typoed the SS/MED number 2k less, refunded me the 320+ dollars, then fined me 1000 bucks. For 5 years my tax attorney and I dealt with them. No agent would meet with us, the dollars were too small for them to deal with, they said just pay it. While I could of 'just paid it', I often wondered what if this were 10K or 100k. They never would admit the mistake, they never would just eliminate the fine.
So, while I disagreed with John Stack's solution to his problem with the IRS, I could empathize with him. Until you find yourself caught in one of these IRS webs, you have no idea the helplessness and frustration.
What part of it did you actually disagree with? What part confused you? Maybe the phony left-right model is what is failing because you keep trying to apply it.
Truth be told, I haven't seen anyone spin this toward "right wing nut" yet…
Yep, the Southern Poverty Law Center, a collective skidmark on the underwear of society, went right to the "vast rightwing" meme….
Want to guarantee that the post-Stack finger will be pointed at conservatives? Choose as your sole guest on the subject someone from the left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/201...
Here's one for ya:
"There's no information yet on whether [Stack] was involved in any anti-government groups or whether he was a lone wolf. But after reading his 34-paragraph screed, I am struck by how his alienation is similar to that we're hearing from the extreme elements of the Tea Party movement."
Jonathan Capehart, Washington Post
As nutty as the original tea partiers?
Hey Big Sis: what are doing to protect us from these left wing-nuts? Huh, Fort Hood, then Huntsville, now Austin. If you ask me anyone with the mental disorder of liberalism should be on a watch list. This guy was a registered Democrat! A hippie at heart. The right wing does not monopolize distrust of the government. It's just that the average left wing idiot isn't smart enough to know that the policies they are in favor of give power to big brother. Thank god the casualties were minimal. I'm dead serious about left wing nuts. I don't think they are stable. You can't be right in the head and have a left wing point of view. That's why liberalism is a mental disorder.
I've said this before, 98% of felons in prison are Democrats, 97% of drug users are Democrats, 99% of high school drop outs are Democrats. Their base is the dregs of the earth.
ANY media that portays this as anything other than a left wing zealot needs to be boycotted. If we all call sponsors of Time, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS etc … we can have an impact. Tell the sponsors that you will boycott them as long as they support socialist left wing media. Do it TODAY!
Did this leftwing Bush and capitalist hating nutjob attend Harvard with that murderer Dr. Amy Bishop? What's up with all of these leftwing malcontents going allah akbar?
Here's another one from New York Magazine:
"He was mad at the IRS, and left what CNN reports was a suicide note on a local website, detailing his trials with the agency. In fact, a lot of his rhetoric could have been taken directly from a handwritten sign at a tea party rally."
Read his good bye letter … He guy sounds like a Alan Grayson disciple!
Das and Fonz have been getting sissy-slapped by commenters lately. They may be silent for awhile as they check with fascist headquarters for fresh talking points…
True that!
His hateful attitude toward "institutions" and "big business" makes him a DEFINITE left wing douchbag…
Go back to your basement Dhass…..Soros is waiting for you. Its time you got some new talking points. Your the only one who seems confused.
As an admirer of Adolph Hitler and B. Obama I can assure you that this hateful act against the IRS was caused by the Jews led by Bush who if you look really close has a long nose. Those of you who have read Mein Kampf already know that the Jews are the cause of every world problem and have the most money. They even refuse to redistribute their wealth to the poor and keep it all to themselves. This is why they hate the IRS, take flying lessons and crash their very expensive airplanes into buildings. Yes, look no further, it is the Jews and Bush and the teabagers that have cooked up this despicable act so that their wealth, which they stole from the gentiles, is not redistributed to the Global Warmers through the IRS who are the ones trying to save the planet.
That's right! The smear merchants will not succeed with their lies because the facts are readily available on the web for all to see.
Thirty seconds….we don't have to wonder, we saw it happen.
Pull your head out of your ass. It works wonders for ones vision.
I think the fact that he quoted and desired the Marxist manifesto "to each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities" makes him pretty left wing in anyone's book.
I lived in Austin for 5 years. It is the San Francisco of Texas. Full of liberal whackos. Remember sniper in The Univerisity of Texas Tower?!
When I read the letter left by John Stack I never once thought what party he may belong to, it just didn't read that way for me.
What I read was of an obviously educated man who once had a dream, only to see it taken from him by a government legislation that favor big business's outsourcing American jobs and a tax law that even lawyers can't make sense of.
The man clearly lost his mind and in killing himself he murdered one and attempted to murder many more.
His same circumstance has happened to many who have not done what he has done but are trying to change the system peacefully. We have an over-bloated government who finance their and their rich friends on the backs of the American taxpayer. I would like to see the IRS disbanded and a Fair tax in it's place, with congress put on a budget.
His pound of flesh and the pound of the person he murdered will make no difference to those in congress now or the IRS as it stands now. They are ruthless. The Tea Party groups are doing this work peacefully. At the ballot box.
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Do some of you really listen to yourselves? You sound just as right wing nutty as the left wing liberals.
No wonder people are looking for an alternative to Dems and Reps.
HUH! Either this is a really good post using sarcasm to show the finger pointing, or you are really deranged. I'm hoping for sarcasm.
Sorry but I thought the sarcasm was obvious. Guess I either didn't do a very good job or people are not reading the entire post.
Nice job Chris!
It's that liberals are so far gone it's difficult to parody them.
Marxists don't believe in private ownership of business. You can't be a (Small business owner /Marxist) So if he was a Marxist he was a raging Hypocrite, and I doubt he was, at least not untill he felt like big business and the government colluded to $crew him…
I figured it was, but with some of the trolls that post here I just wanted to be sure.
Cheers
Dhass it's really very simple read carefully, bailouts are socialist, period…Got it?
l or r, d or r, bailouts are progressive…
Sadly we got a couple around here who would start following you…
I'll give you Time, but NY magazine and the SPLC is hardly the Media let alone the MSM. Most sites I've seen so far are just using the AP story which doens't cast any political ideology on this guy. I'll stick to my original point. This guy is a nut who feels like he was $crewed by the governement, and this wasn't an "ideological" act either conservative or liberal, and that casting it as such is wrong, and that doing becasue you feel like "the other side" will do it, is lazy, and wrong.
What do you get when a fed up liberal flies into a building? Dead people, damaged property and a CNN call for increased security at small airports, next step ban small airplanes.
Less than 30 seconds. NPR is already trying to paint this idiot as a Limbaugh/Beck/Hannity/Levin listener. Next they might claim he was a comfidant of Michael Savage or something else. Same thing Bubba and his commie media tried with McVeigh in 1995, trying to paint him as a talk radio junkie who bombed the Murrah building because Limbaugh “made” him do it. Id bet this puke was a huge fan of both Mattspews and Uberdork. Probably had a pinup picture of Rosie O donut or Rachel the Madcow.
Or fly an airplane into a building.
Hey Hasseldork-Violent enough to know who the enemy was. You and your ilk. General Patton wouldnt have merely slapped you. He likely would have driven a tank over you.
Actually, Washington Post, Huffington Post and NYTimes have all tried to link him to either the Tea Party movement and or conservatives in general. So you simply are clueless about this whole thing.
According to his Facebook page he was a supporter of Ron Paul.
Here's another one from the New York Times story:
“In April 1990, a firebomb packed with a tea bag — a reference to the Boston Tea Party — and addressed to the I.R.S. was placed in the mail in Royal Oak, Mich. It exploded, injuring a postal worker.”
OK then, Rufus is voting to be in sympathy with the terrorist. Atta boy Rufus. Rufus does sound like a dog's name. Most likely harmless, but really dumb. Pat on head, pat pat pat.
So then, you have similar complaints, and have similar leftist leanings (although obviously you are not far left, just left leaning. Do you have a pilot's license or access to farm chemicals, that is the real question.
And it seems that this guy was very political, and it was LEFT LEANING politics.
try reading the subject matter before forming an opinion.
Actually, I can squabble with a thousand leftists and still have the power to see what the government is doing on either side. For example, although I like Bush generally I opposed several things that he did with taxpayer money, which was less than conservative. The idea that we can't oppose liberals (or conservatives) and keep an eye on what the government is doing specifically is just dumb.
Well, what makes him leftist is the following, gained by simple research …
1) He hated taking personal responsibility for his own problems.
He cared about his own life, but not the lives of others
2) He hated large companies.
3) He praised the communist manifesto.
4) He condemned capitalism.
5) He hated the health care companies, drug companies, insurance companies.
6) He hated Bush.
7) He said nothing negative about a single democrat.
This is pretty good evidence that he was leftist.
Here is the recent list of left wing nuts that terrorize Americans (with one old bastard tossed in)
1) Leftist American Muslim that killed many on base.
2) 5 Leftist Muslims planning poisoning of US military.
3) Leftist obama fan teacher union member that killed several co-workers
4) This leftist nut that flew into IRS building.
5) Leftists murdering unborn human babies by the millions
6) Bill Ayers, lest we forget.
7) Obama, Pelosi, Reid, three stooges killing the American dream
Excellent sarcasm.
Yes, excellent sarcasm but these days, you have to be even more extreme to show sarcasm, since most of them really think that way.
He needs to answer what part of the letter he disagrees with.
"As an admirer of Adolph Hitler and B. Obama I can assure you that this hateful act against the IRS was caused by the Jews led by Bush who if you look really close has a long nose. Those of you who have read Mein Kampf already know that the Jews are the cause of every world problem and have the most money. They even refuse to redistribute their wealth to the poor and keep it all to themselves. This is why they hate the IRS, take flying lessons and crash their very expensive airplanes into buildings. Yes, look no further, it is the Jews and Bush and the teabagers that have cooked up this despicable act so that their wealth, which they stole from the gentiles, is not redistributed to the Global Warmers through the IRS who are the ones trying to save the planet." Sarcasm intended!
My previous post was not to be taken seriously but was just my attempt to be "funny". I picked out the Jews, Bush and teabagers because liberals are constantly creating scapegoats just as Hitler and the Nazi's did, to give their people someone to focus on and hate when they were they ones who were the real danger. Obama's people are trying the same tactics and to some extent are succeeding with the help of the MSM. History seems to be repeating itself with communist propaganda taking the place of the Nazi's who of course were really socialists and not conservatives, regardless of what you hear from the MSM.
Stack was obviously a deranged man and it appears to me after reading his rant that he was a left wing kook. The minions at HuffPo can try to pin this on conservatives, but it is pretty clear that this guy was somewhere left of Ralph Nader.
Dhasselhoff
The manifesto speaks for itself…Hates the Bushes, hates institutions, and the last line criticizes capitalism…You can read English? Plus only a deranged, confused leftist douchbag would such a thing…Plus he was, like you, a registered DIMOCRAT…Check it out
And I'm not a "he"…
[...] Joseph Stack’s 3000+ word screed, he wasn’t furious at “big government,” he believed the IRS was in collusion with BIG BUSINESS, and that’s what set him off. And does this sound like a Tea Partier to you? …the joke we [...]
Exactly — happened already: fake Facebook pages popped up five minutes after Stack's name was released. This is how the MSM brainwashes the hearts and minds of the sheeple.
Check out http://www.keep2theright.com
Liberals have always absolved themselves of all personal responsibility and their assignation of blame has become a religion. The proof is evident by those in the media who see others to blame for the destructive, paranoid behavior of Stack, who himself took no responsibility for his actions, but saw fit to blame others for his failures. Liberals are sad.
You have no understanding of the conservative mind….Nazi!
You are correct, Bush was a Big Gov't fiscal liberal.
What's your point?
The National Transportation Safety Board will look into this and spend $4.5 million to determine that this crash was caused by a Tea Partier that shops at WalMart, is not a union member, pays his bills on time, goes to a Christian church and drives a Toyota.
I tend to agree with you on this rare occasion.
This man was apolitical, and a pussy who took the easy way out, leaving a wife and daughter to fend for themselves.
That is clear as day.
All I have seen is you spinning and backtracking. As usual, it's very humorous to see an idiot that can't just state they were wrong.
And that Idiot Sir, is you.
There's ONLY 6 posts showing you the FACTS, and you still refuse to simply say, Whoops, sorry, I was wrong. This Sir, makes you arrogant coward, and a buffoon. Simple as that.
This terrible event, as others have before will been spun and slung and splattered to fit whoever what's to twist it into a hammer to nail their point.
That this disturbed broken man felt that he needed to include his wife and child along with unknown countless individulas is scary and we are all very fortunate that more people were not killed or hurt. The fact of the matter is no government agency could have stopped him from his angry assault.
Irrelevent.
He's a coward who flew a plane into a building, killing himself, threatening and injuring people on the ground, and left a wife and daughter to watch their house burn to the ground and ultimately fend for themselves.
I can't empathize with that. You can. And that's sad.
Baby Boomer stomping his feet!
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A registered Democrat,an emmigre from the People’s Republic of New York,and Commiefornia, and a denizen of Austin, this obamination looks like a leftie to me. Blame Bush, the IRS, and Big Business- all signs of a commiecrat.
The subprime media with their spin and out of context screed,should be accountable for this misdirection. This is a job for: RETRACTO !
Ah, so you love Bush, the IRS, and bailout-capitalism?
Right.
Bailouts aren't socialists – they went to private companies! LOL!
That would definitely explain the narcissistic rage.
You must be a liberal, gu-huck! [/typical BB neocon poster]
Seemed pretty responsible to me. Sounded to me he, like most conservatives, resented carrying everyone ELSE at some point. Maybe he was channeling Ayn Rand.
He hated large companies.
The larger the company, the more it because indistinguishable from government. That is because big business runs out government (see "bailouts" and "Obamacare: forcing Americans to buy our products.")
He praised the communist manifesto.
I missed that. Where?????
He condemned capitalism.
What passes for capitalism today (which it isn't.)
He hated the health care companies, drug companies, insurance companies.
Look around you – everyone is doing that and for good reason.
(cont…)
He hated Bush.
Look around you – everyone is doing that and for good reason.
He said nothing negative about a single democrat
Didn't mention many Republicans to speak of.
He cared about his own life, but not the lives of others
Didn't he remarry?
Yo, Satan – funny you should mention Dr. Bishop (speak of the devil!(Sorry, couldn't help it)) but the left wing lunatics have already attempted to paint her as a "typical" member of the Tea Party. Their logic is flawless: She shot colored people, therefore she's a racist. She's a racist, therefore she's a right winger.
http://www.wisdomworld.com/wp-content/uploads/200...
heh.
make sure you use a sarcasm tag – because unfortunately many liberals actually think that way. (Yes Airborn, we both risked our lives to protect their freedom of speech. Unfortunately the left rarely uses their freedom of think)
If you read this wrongnuts's rant, you will see this guy is not a tea party type. Catch up on the issue.
Read the manifesto, you at the library for Christ's sake.
So the IRS is the greatest recruitment tool for terrorist?
The SPLC appeared on the MSM…..so as they said in the Blues Brothers, <We got both kinds of music…Country and Western!
rim shot!
"Truth be told, I haven't seen anyone spin this toward "right wing nut" yet."
note you said 'anyone', not 'everyone'.
Actually, we need more left wing nuts like Mr. Stack. Lets hope we can put them all on the same plane …
Washington Post and New York Times don't count as MSM?
Ah, Rick Sanchez – lets shine some light on this fine chunk of garbage.
The system "worked" – ask her.
rachael- no opinion was formed by liberry lady- just a SPEW of vitriol.
You could read that he had concocted a narrative in his mind that exempted him from paying taxes (ya, that always works {NOT!} ) and was rationalizing his way into just "throwing in the towel".
Fk this guy…we've almost all hard hard times and diffficult circumstances to over come – he took the ultimate cowards way out. Just a POS.
Wrong Dude! Airplanes don't kill people, people kill people (was that sufficiently incoherent and troll like?)
sarcasm off
I thought he blamed GW Bush not Obamar? Doesn't that make him a LEFT wing nut?
Look up rent seeking, as an economic term troll. That is what the big Wall Street companies do- to freeze out the competition.
Liberals don't kill people, Nutty liberal pilots kill people. [double sarc] hahaha…
Nice work James…
Plus he burned his own house. What a douche!
Hip Hip Hooray…one less piece of left-wing human debris roaming around our country.
I do say that with sarcasm as I feel sorry for the people working there at the building in Austin, they aren't to blame.
BUT I don't feel sorry one bit for Mr. Kamikazi Stack. Everyone has problems, some people know how to deal with their problems, some apparently don't. Kind of surreal times we live in where the President, Congress, academia, the media, newspapers etc are almost entirely beholden to one ideology (with exception of Fox and right-wing blogs, I know). THUS, we don't get the truth about Mr.Kamikaze coming right on the heels of Miss Libtard Professor gunning down her fellow professors over tenure.
Why the amazing silence or outright distortion of the views of these people. If this Stack fellow had a Republican bumper sticker or Tea Party sticker or something on his car, we'd have heard about it, have photos, etc and it'd be all over the news. BUT, because the guy was an obvious lib-tard, the media goes into spin mode. Amazing stuff….
faster than you can say – right-wing nut job. see
Funny that she was obsessed with adoration for Obama yet a tea party member? Wow! That's twisted logic…
I think Grayson's letter would be 10 times longer with lots of grammatical and spelling errors and much less logical progression! LOL!!!
If you've read Mein Kampf you must have also read "A World without Jews" then?
So did you jump or did they just push you out of airplanes? hmmmm???
Dhass thank you for your theory of socialist economics, I'm good now, thanks for straightening me out on that…
Sadly he was deranged but one hell of a shot!
The spouse was in Austin at the time and saw the smoke from the building. From what I read, the pilot fairly well zeroed in on a specific part of the building. Not sure if that was where he thought he could inflict the most damage, or where the people he was most interested in harming were located. I noticed the 67 year old man who was also killed was the Manager of Collections. If I were guessing, I would say that office was the intended main target.
Also heard from someone in Austin that the guy and his wife had had a fight the night before, and he had set fire to the family cat. Don’t know if that is true or not, but it sure seems like he should have been reported and arrested right then. Was also told that is why the wife and daughter spent the night in a hotel. If it was reported in the media, I haven’t seen it. Anyone who does something horrendous like that needs to be locked up pronto! Maybe it could have prevented what happened later.
Using leftwing logic [I know, it's an oxymoron] then Planned Parenthood is akin to the nazis and kkk considering they've murdered millions of black babies over the decades.
I got it after rereading it I didn't think someone with Airborne in their name would be that way. Semper Fi!
Nader helped kill the Corvair because he was a greedy azz tort lawyer (the kind of lawyer that needs a tall tree and a short piece of rope). He's ALWAYS been an azz hole!!
was a former Postal Worker AND owns several firearms too!!
LOL!! Thanks for the laffs. Maybe with Pelosi then?? hehehe!!!!!!
Did you guys notice the huge amount of damage to the building? Are you trying to tell me that one tiny little single engine Piper/Cessna with 40 gallons of avgas caused that sort of damage and that fire? You must be kidding me. There is a huge coverup here, so much so that the man's house was burned down to cover it all up. I mean did anyone see him set his house on fire? Did anyone watch him type the post that has been seen all over the internet? How do we know he was even in the plane? Has Bush denied that he knew anything about this attack – I don't think so. Somebody call Rossie quick!
There's an internet "law" on the subject, actually, called Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
Note that "fundamentalism" needn't necessarily be religious, either. You could replace it with the extremist label of choice, and the meaning remains the same. (The original was in regards to a web forum about Creationism, where parodies of Creationism rarely went without someone mistaking them for the real thing.)
Bravo. Braaaaavo!
ALL OF TWO MINUTES! This poor guy was a very deep hole and he just gave up….easy to do with the IRS on your neck!
He simply lost it, period!
BeFree, as someone whose husband got audited for several years in a row because his ex-wife threw out some receipts, I can sympathize with anyone who has to deal with the IRS. His problem was for ONE TAX YEAR, but even after he gave in and just paid them what they wanted, they continued to audit and harass him year after year. And try to get a straight answer from ANYONE at the IRS when you have a tax question! They freely admit that a minimum of 30% of the answers given by the Customer Service lines are incorrect, but YOU the taxpayer are held accountable for those answers. Let's do away with the entire IRS and adopt the FAIR TAX!!!!!
The spouse saw the smoke yesterday and heard a few rumors that I haven't seen reported.
From the first report I did read, I knew that the MSM would not report the liberal "tells."
I made a comment, on the 2nd page I think, so I don't want to repeat.
Yes, Huff-Po is a lefty opinion blog, but it is also cited, in all seriousness, by a number of news papers that can be called "mainstream".
Almost as nutty as the founders of this country. Violent terrorists.
"When the DOD gives out billions of dollars in no bid contracts to the likes of Blackwater Liberals howl with rage and conservatives sit on their hands skeptically becasue "if liberals are angry I sholud probably be happy even if I don't know why" "
Did the Liberals howl with rage when /Clinton/ gave them that contract?
Conservatives know they did not, so, yes, this conservative is a bit puzzled about what all the shouting is about.
Quite right. One of the problems I see with the conservative – liberal split is that they are so distrustful of one another that the gornerment can do what it wants while people squabble.
When the DOD gives out billions of dollars in no bid contracts to the likes of Blackwater Liberals howl with rage and conservatives sit on their hands skeptically becasue "if liberals are angry I sholud probably be happy even if I don't know why"
When Chris Dodd and his Dem Senate Banking commitee buddies bail out Freddie Mac or the Administration Nationalizes G.M. Conservatives howl with rage and liberals sit on their hands skeptically becasue "if conservatives are angry I sholud probably be happy even if I don't know why"
Either way, The Cronies of some corrupt politician are enriched, the American Tax payer is fleeced, and the small business owner is left wondering, why do I strugle while they get that deal….
That's what I see in Mr. Stacks Manifesto.
J-Nap malfunction. Why didn't she catch and stop him?
email this to everyone on your list
One of these at the end helps … /sarc
I read that he had a brain tumor, but nothing about his politics.
How is what his letter said liberal exactly? I am kind of confused by that?
….and a tea party member.
This ugly stuff never really goes away. It goes underground for months, or years, and surfaces, and wreaks havoc when opportunity presents itself. It is truly sad and horrific…but not unexpected.
Stack was like so many others, who would never turn against the "Party of the Poor", (Even though he was wealthy enough to own a plane) he believed every hardship in "Mortal" life was inflicted by the "Party of the wealthy"!!! WHO named the political teams? One who fights for the poor and one who allows the wealthy to steal from the poor whom they employ!!! Stack was driven to the limit, confusion got the best of him, he was likened to a blind person, swatting at bees he can't see coming, believing that the one trying to brush the bees off of him was the reason he was getting stung!!! Believing the one trying to help was a radical, determined to make the bees sting him,, if the intruder would've just left the bees alone, maybe they'd just land on him and not inject any poison!! Who's to blame "The one that teaches a man to fish" or the governors who raid the fisherman's stringer so they can toss everyone a quarter (Or less) of each fish they heisted from the fisherman (They must eat too, ya' know) Anyway; The moral of the story is; Stack was confused, others are suffering, but the healthy with their agendas are still trying to spread the confusion so they can preserve their wealth and their elaborate lifestyles, regardless of the repercussions!!!
Huffington Post? seriously? it's barely more than a lefty opinion blog. If Tea Party members and conservatives are going to get all wound up over what HuffPost and SPLC write about them, they'll never acomplish anything. They'll be too busy sulking and posting about how "unfair" it is.
If the W.H., a US Senator or the nightly News says "this guys is a conservative" or a "Tea-Party follower" I'll be interested, otherwise MEH, who cares. I swear the only reason Huffington Post has any visability whatsoever is becasue of conservatives getting all bend out of shape. I bet there are more conservatives who hit the site just to see what it's writting about them, then genuine liberals do. Have you ever tried to read any of that crap? ….. Noboday actually reads that stuff. And they're lauging all the way to the bank.
Statement from the President:
Considering that only one innocent died, I have to say the system worked.
This incident demonstrates that an alert and courageous citizenry are far more resilient than an isolated, tea-bagging extremist, and that 190 federal employees are pretty good at getting out of the way of an approaching plane – or that they were all out on a smoke break at the time.
Whatever.
The terrorists lost.
Good job, Secretary Napolitano.
Articles like this do us, the entire conservative movement, no good at all. If you were to actually read this killer's manifesto, it is readily apparent that his only ideology was delusional paranoia. For each left-wing rant he follows it with a right-wing rant. Sometimes he even combines left and right in the same sentence. We excoriate the leftist MSM for constantly cherry picking sentences from speechs and articles to support their side and attack the evil conservatives. We call them on this disgusting dishonest practice for a good reason…it is a lie of omission! If it is evil when Progressives like the NYT and MSNBC do it, why is it less evil when conservative writers do the same. (Next)
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This act was the tragic result of a mind damaged by a major mental illness. How does it benefit us to fraudulently spin his 6 page suicide note into an attack on our political opponents. What makes the Progressive Movement attractive to many followers is its total lack of morality along with the celebration of dishonesty. Those who support the conservative movement find these behaviors vile and evil.
Some of our writers are beginning to act like the managers of the RNC. If attracting Progressives was successful in electing Democrats, let's "open our tent" and invite in as many Progressives in as we can. We lost the Republican Party as the conservative party by letting it become Democrat-lite. We can not afford to lose our Conservative media by allowing them to become a cherry picking MSM-lite. Celebrate all truth…expose all dishonesty.
Maybe, just maybe he and the prof in Alabama were just troubled nuts.
The one good thing the press is not doing in either of these cases in elevating their actions to cult status by trying to relate to them or by examining their complaints and justifying their feelings/actions.
They were nuts. They were evil. Good freakin' riddance.
Check this out: http://www.infowars.com/
They have a very interesting perspective on this and what the government is brewing up.
Actually, it's those little hard things that come flying out of the barrel that end up killing you.
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Heard it on the local progressive radio station this morning. The spin was so full of holes it was hilarious.
It's important to reclaim freedom and remake the FCC as a guardian of truth…the govt watchdogs are communists now.
Amazingly, the origins and purpose of all this chaos are predicted and accounted for in the prophetic, political Thriller book, BLACK ROAD 2012, which I bought on amazon, and was a real goose-bumpy, totally absorbing ride: http://tinyurl.com/amazon-BLACK-ROAD-2012
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ABC News is doing its part for the cause, running an article titled, "Joe Stack Hailed as Hero in American 'Patriot' Resurgence."
The next line says: "Expert: Online Cheers for Joe Stack Reflect Growing Anti-Government Movement."
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/patriot-movement-cal...
Get the innuendo? If you're still missing the message, here are a couple of key excerpts from the article:
"Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president …"
"The result is what Potok referred to as a 'broad-based, right-wing populist rebellion,' generally short of violent extremism. While not necessarily extreme itself, many groups in the overall movement are 'shot through with radical ideas, conspiracy theories and racism,' Potok said. 'Sometimes these attacks do serve as inspiration for other groups and individuals.'"
Ah, OK … so even if right-wing populists who have a beef with the Obama administration aren't violent, they're nevertheless birds of a feather with crackpots who fly airplanes into IRS buildings. Got it loud and clear, ABC!
[...] suicide rant, as a not too subtle way of tying him to leftist ideology. Today Michelle Malkin and Big Government.com both ran blog posts (falsely) accusing the left of attributing the attack to Tea [...]
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There is no such thing as bailout-capitalism. In a capitalist system, if a company can't succeed they go out of business and are replaced by one that can succeed. Socialism is the system that won't let failing businesses go.
I sure liked Bush a lot better than what we got now.
And unlike this guy, along with all sorts of leftists in congress, I have no reason to hate the IRS. My taxes are always done correctly and filed on time. I may not be happy about it, but I don't even think of hurting, let alone killing people for it.
Ahem, socialism always goes to private citizens, so they say. The issue is that the money is forced from those paying the most taxes and given to somebody else. In the case of regular liberal socialism, it goes to the poor uneducated in order to purchase lots of votes and will sometimes go to rich buddies to line their pockets and keep them donating to the party that hooked and crooked for them.
In other words, he had the same liberal views that you hold yourself. Which continues to prove my point.
In other words, you, a moronic liberal yourself, agrees with the liberal views of the terrorist. Again, you only prove my case.
Is your label misspelled, brainless?
I mentioned, Washington Post, NYTimes and Huffington post. All popular liberal websites. Stay off the drugs dude.
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