The left is jumping up and down screaming “Gotcha!” over a post at American Prospect by Adam Serwer that purports to debunk the New Black Panther voter intimidation story.
Serwer’s headline: “When Was the Black Panther Case Downgraded” is an important part of the obfuscation that runs through the reaction to his post as left-leaning media types desperately try to make his “find” mean something that it doesn’t.
First, let’s watch the highest-profile regurgitation of Serwer’s storyline, Keith Olbermann:
Seems pretty cut and dried, right? The charge that Obama’s Justice Department dismissed the case against the Panthers is patently false because it was actually the Bush DOJ that dismissed them.
Well, at least that’s what Olbermann and his poor, tortured producers and staff want you to think.
Remember I pointed out that Serwer’s headline is the beginning of the obfuscation? Read it again: “When Was the Black Panther Case Downgraded.”
Get it?
A simple reading of the Serwer piece will show that his point is not about when the charges were dropped and by whom, it is about when the charges were downgraded to civil rather than criminal charges and by whom.
But Olbermann and Serwer’s entire thesis is based on a misrepresentation of the controversy itself. Conservative media outlets have not been decrying that the charges were downgraded. They have been decrying that the Obama Department of Justice had convictions in hand for the civil charges and then they unilaterally dropped them.
As Olbermann points out in his piece, the Bush DOJ filed four civil complaints against the Black Panthers. Three of those charges were dropped in May, 2009 by the Obama DOJ as reported last year by Fox News:
The Obama administration won the case last month, but moved to dismiss the charges on May 15.
Republican Congressmen on the House Judiciary committee immediately requested explanations from Justice and in December the Washington Times reported on the inquiry:
Two senior lawmakers on Wednesday said the Justice Department, after five months of “repeated questions,” again refused to say why it “wrongfully dismissed” a civil complaint against members of the New Black Panther Party who were accused of voter intimidation at a Philadelphia polling place during the November 2008 presidential elections.
There are no doubts as to the facts of this case despite the seemingly willful obfuscation from Serwer and Olbermann:
- Four civil charges were brought in this case by the Bush Justice Department including a charge against the New Black Panther Party itself and its leader, Malik Zulu Shabazz
- The defendants in this case did not show up to defend themselves and summary judgments were obtained
- Those judgments were unilaterally dropped in three of the four cases (including against Malik Shabazz and the Party itself) by the Obama Justice Department in May.
Olbermann can rant and Adam Serwer can behave as though he has found a smoking gun of hypocrisy, but blaming your opponent of being wrong on a position that they never took is not called a “Gotcha” moment… it’s just pathetic grasping at straws, repetition of Media Matters talking points, and a desperate attempt to confuse the public.
One nice little touch in Serwer’s “blockbuster” post, the final line, seemingly thrown in as an afterthought, says:
UPDATE: More on the subsequent decision not to further pursue the civil case here.
“Oh yeah.. someone eventually decided to not pursue the civil case… but that’s not important to explore here. ” Even though it is the crux of the conservative criticism of this case. No, that will get in the way of Serwer pretending he’s caught conservatives in a trap. Pathetic. Almost as pathetic as the people who believed it and repeated it.
MSNBC, Olby, American Prospect, and Serwer all could have figured this out before they went live with their mega non-scoop… but that might have required literally minutes of fact-checking (i.e. legit journalism) on Google.






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What are the choices again? Hmmm. Hmmm. I go with liar. Sorry, Keith. Thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.
And they all wonder why their ratings and web clicks are in the toilet.
Olbermann a lying a**h***. Idiots will believe him. Now, how about some news.
Think Olberman will have Adams on to talk about it?
Hahahahahahaha. I made myself laugh
You know Olbermann, he never lets the facts get in the way of his stories!
The sad thing is that 10 years ago MSNBC was a good news channel. Then it turned into this.
I miss Jerry Nachman.
It's MSNBC. More people know what Sponge Bob says than what Olbermann spews. There is a good reason for their low ratings. I believe people, consciously or subconsciously, know these people in the MSM are lying to them, and they are tuning out in droves because of it.
I'm marketing a new spin dryer starting immediately. Its the new and needing power Olbermatic! I tried to sell it to ACME but even they were to smart to invest in the Olbermatic.
Wait … so if they're blaming Bush then that must mean they admit that what happened is … bad. They may have caught themselves on this one.
Both. Too stupid to use Google and a liar.
it does not matter if oddbeerman is a liar or not, only the libs are watching, and only a few of them, and of course, they blame bush.
I vote liar! But that was a trick question.
All you need to do is view the videos of NBP member King "Pap" Samir and his racist rants, and you'll get a clear picture of what his intentions were on election day. If it is further evidence you require, take a look at the video where Malik Zulu ShamWow says something to the effect of "We don't carry clubs to polling stations… psyche! hahaha!"
What a bunch of scum bags. If they really think they're that tough, i suggest they bring it. This is one "cracker" who isn't scared of a bunch of racist thugs in halloween costumes. I do, however, think that if they focused on helping their communities, rather than dreaming of killing white people, they might make some more progress.
question: After they kill all the white people, are they going to go kill the black coastal tribes of Africa… you know, the black tribes who ventured inland to capture other blacks to sell to the europeans? just wondering……
I was flipping channels yesterday and saw Olbermann mention how it was really the Bush administration that had dropped the charges, but I knew that was a lie, so I just kept on flipping.
We'll all entitled to our own opinions but not our own facts.
Olberman is doing his best to hold on to the fools that care to watch his blathering and lies.
I would suggest he go back to doing sports reporting on little league games, except that I really don't think any children are safe around him and his ilk.
not "or". "and".
Why is this an either or choice? Can it not possibly be both?
I believe in the Reason Magazine tag line "Free minds, and free markets". I long for the day when the market take over, and MSNBC realizes they can no longer afford Keith, both for the money and for the shameful politics.
The only purpose for this kind of dishonest reporting is so that the committed lefties have a reason, no matter how much of a lie it is, to hold on to their spin on the subject. The truth has never mattered to those people, so why assume that it will be any different now?
I don't know why this is such a big deal. Olberscum, that Maddow dude and both of their viewers think that everything that has gone wrong in the history of earth is Bush's fault.
It's amazing that this idiot has any viewers. The fact that his show is the highest rated on MSNBC is sad, and a little scary.
I think it was Thomas Jefferson who famously said in 1796…
" a woman who watches nothing on TV, is better informed then a man who watches Oberman on MSLSD"….
I vote both.
Now that is a hideous thought, how could you? It took them long enough to send the would-be sports sycophant not to the sidelines, not to the bench, but down the field and out the gate to PMSNBC.
Oberman is the biggest, highest rated, mental midget in the MSLSD "blue"room…
Congrats, Keith…It won't be long…Not too worry…Quick and painless…you may not even see it coming….Even though the handwriting has been in bold letters for a long time…
They believe the Rod Serling version of the truth…
Have the White House visitor logs been checked lately? Would be interesting to see if any names from Black Panther party have been visiting the WH lately.
Keith Olberman = epic fail.
Here's to the beginning of the"Twilight" of their sick, twisted, corrupt way of existing in this great country.
Olbermann is a nightmarish cartoon character from an alternate reality (TwilightZone) where stupidity and ignorance replaces Truth and Wisdom….
We'll be looking for that correction real soon…
Looks like Queefy Uberdouche's cow college failed him again
WTF does one learn while studying communication at a farm college anyway??
…hog calling?
There isn't an honest bone in Fatty Olbermann's body. He's a bad joke.
Bush appointed Holder? Wow. That's a stretch.
Media elites like Olbermann live in a Manhattan bubble with a black Lincoln shuffling him around town and a multi-million apartment and the "celebrity" of being watched by 154 people everynight. He's so disconnected from the reality of Americans like you and me, Olbermann is utterly clueless.
Yup
Had Oby been around in the 1930's, he'd thought FDR was "the man"….
'cause he had a job, a car, and a chicken in the pot….Never lookin' out beyond the Hudson…
Vigilance in the face of the "vampire" (progs) onslaught will be job ONE….Overwhelming them won't be enough…
Crush and dispose of properly…NOT TO BE RECYCLED…Thank you…
Of course. He's selling bravado, not the truth.
Could it be their smug, smirky delivery? Olbermann absolutely could not un-purse his lips at any time during this piece. He wanted to giggle so much. He's such a naughty little girl!
At the 00:37 mark he moves from reading the teleprompter to reading his notes when he says, "quote, 'cracker babies.'" This is such a calculated, contrived move. I experienced it on a conscious level. And I think you're right, mikemc, that even if one doesn't catch the lie consciously, something will register in their subconscious. As humans we have survival instincts to protect us against people like Olbermann.
Yes, but trying to explain the irony of the situation to them may cause your head to explode.
For that matter, the charges were never downgraded either. They filed the civil case and stayed with it. There was no criminal filing to "downgrade." You cannot downgrade charges that were never filed.
"I do, however, think that if they focused on helping their communities, rather than dreaming of killing white people, they might make some more progress."
Yeah, these guys really seem like the "helper" types. I wouldn't hold my breath. In fact, if this were 1800 the New Black Panther Party WOULD BE the tribe selling their black brothers to the Americas. They would probably be working in cahoots with tribal chiefs Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. These two have been selling black people down the river for years.
What's with the tea kettle icon and sound effects? Is MSNBC (let's face it, NBC/GE) really that afraid of the Tea Party movement that they would associate it with this story? The issue of voter intimidation has absolutely no connection to the Tea Party.
I don't care which side you lean to you'd have to be insulted by this dishonesty. Unless of course you were too dumb to recognize it as such.
When you are the king of Turd Island, what does that make you? That's right, the biggest turd on the island!
Congratulations to the king, Keith Olberwierd!
As I understand it, Serling was one of them on the left.
But at least he was entertaining.
I thought that was Patrick Henry and he said it in 1769?
Serling came up with some pretty weird stuff, but I doubt he'd be able to up with anything even close to this bozo.
Sean Penn can be entertaining on occasion also…
But,difficult to overlook in massive doses…I was a child in the '60's
so don't remember if Serling was a vocal moron or kept it to himself..
I don't seriously think they're going to help anyone or anything. It was more of a "look at yourself before you look at others" type of statement.
These guys are radicals and don't do anything to help their own communities… but blame the world for their current situation. I'm not saying its been easy… i mean, they've had Progressives in control of nearly every major city for nearly 100 years, and all they've managed to is make make the black community dependent upon the government for hand outs… just enough to survive and keep them coming back for more.
I watch CNBC for my market news, and I always laugh at his commercials that say that his show "is to throw off light, not heat", it is hilarious to claim that when he has a segment on his show entitled "The stuipdest person in the world". Amazing that he actually dated Laura Ingraham!
Just different types of stories in their own personal excursions into "fantasy land"…
Serling was sometimes pretty poignant….
Oby…Not so much…
Sean Penn plays a very believable mentally challenged person…….
I don't recall if he was vocal about it, if he was he did a good job of keeping it quiet.
He's from a town near where I grew up so so his image is plastered all over the place. There's even a tour tourists can take of places that show up in various episodes. I think there are 26 specific references.
No Ed…
Patrick Henry said
"The "Tree of Liberty" must be watered occasionally with the blood of Marxists"…
And that's the TRUTH..
Agreed. He was definitely in a class all his own. I loved the one episode where a guy takes a drive out in the country, his car breaks down, takes a few hours to fix, so he goes for a walk and end up back in time when he was a kid, and even runs into his family and himself.
I thought that was Ben Franklin after a couple of kegs of hard cider?
Who said "give me a liberty bell or give me a pizza?"
Sounds like a regular Lincoln, Reagan…or Johnny Carson..
Are you making fun of me???
That's OK… all in good cheer..!!
Well I certainly hope you weren't planning on letting me get away with out dishing it back out to me.
Do you remember the name of that episode?
I'm always fascinated by directors differing views of how time shifting/travel would work or if there is such a thing…
"TimeCop" is still one of the better visions…
Had to look it up. Walking Distance.
Number 5 on the list.
http://tzone.the-croc.com/original-twilight-zone-...
OK Ed….Samuel Adams said in 1799….
"A righteous man's choice of beer tells more about him than the quality of his better half.."
I believe that's a direct quote….hehe
"I regret I have but one six pack to bring to this party."
Nathan Hale, 1801.
In 1809…John Paul Jones (of LedZeplin)
said………..
"I have only begun to drink" (BEER..I think he meant..)
"Don't drink till you see the white foam of their mugs."
Anonymous cpl. at Lexington & Concord.
I have to go out for a few hours, but this has been fun,Ed Ski…
In the words of Daivd "Monty" Mongtomery, famous outdoorsman and beer swiller…
"A woman is a woman but a trunk full of booze from BevMo is a thing of real beauty"
Direct quote…
We can do some appropriate Bible quotes next…
My vote? Olbermann's a boldfaced liar. Seriously. How he can deliver the crap he says with a straight face is beyond me. Does he really buy it? If so, wow, what a shame.
I just posted a reply on Adams "informational" website. I doubt it will stay up there long but it's funny watching liberal lunatics heads explode with seething anger and rage when they get confronted with the truth. (chuckle)
In regards to the subject line's question, is all of the above an option?
"Either Olbermann Doesn’t Know How to Use Google… or He’s a Liar"
Can we go with all of the above???
Could that be a consummate liar and ignorant of the use of google.
And a pompous rat's rectum to boot.
You mean like Jesus after turning water into wine told his mom:
Here this is better than that Rothschild swill they've been drinking all night!
I thought Olderdork was around in the 1930s, at least he looks that old.
I was thinking FLAME, of this:
PSALMS15 " Wine gladdens the heart of man, beer to make his spirit shine, and Irish wiskey that sustains his heart".
I got a million of 'em……..Got the idea from you last week…That was a funny thread…
Sometimes I cannot improve the actual verse, Ecclesiates 9:7
Go, eat your food with joy,
and drink your wine with a happy heart
ISA56:12 "Come," each one cries, "let me get wine! Let us drink our fill of beer! And tomorrow will be like today, or even far better."
Doesn't get more fitting than this…
Don't invite the thin-skinned thumpers, please…
I thumbs upped your response, but, in all honesty, you deserved it for your screenname alone.
While I am a "thumper", I have a very thick skin.
Proverbs 31:4-5
It is not for kings, O Bama,
it is not for kings to drink wine,
or for rulers to crave strong drink,
lest they drink and forget what is decreed,
and remove from all the poor their legal rights.
Proverbs 20
Wine is a mocker and strong drink is a brawler;
which explains my Irish ancestry!
When has MSNBC ever worried about the facts? Now since Oafferrman makes such a huge salary in spite of always seeming to be behind on those pesky taxes he wants everyone else to pay, he might not have a staff to help him do research, so he has to spend much of his time sounding like he knows what he is saying, sort of like Obama tries to do.
Even if his claims were true and the Bush Administration didn't prosecute, does it make it right that it happened and not warrant a single comment condemning the action itself or the comments that were made by the very individual himself who made them? (Shabazz)
Since Oafferman is silent on that aspect of the case he must condone the actions and the statements made by the individuals thus he is admitting to being just a loud obnoxious stoolie-hand puppet for them.
Now imagine a Tea Party patriot or anyone white for that matter saying or committing the same actions with the same result from the Bush administration or the Obama administration and what do you think the response would be then??
I am surprised that he didn't blame the people who recorded the actions because they didn't identify themselves.
Gentle Readers,
Mr. Olbermann hasn't the slightest idea what he is talking about. Of course, all Civil Rights complaints are Civil, not Criminal.
That's why they're called ' Civil Rights '.
Had the NPPP members physically struck someone, or stabbed or shot someone, or stole money, that would be Criminal.
All DOJ did under Pres. Bush was determine there wasn't sufficient evidence to bring any Criminal Charges. However, they won a judgement on the Civil Rights violations.
Mr. Olbermann is utterly incompetent. Any high school kid knows the difference between criminal and civil law.
Sincerely,
John Lepant Brighton CO
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