The unshackling of the MSM — and, to a lesser extent, their erstwhile brethren in the Democratic Party — from the clutches of the nation’s teachers’ unions continues apace.
In defiance of what must have been intense pressure from organized labor and the Los Angeles education establishment, the Los Angeles Times just published an incredible series of stories on the effectiveness of the city’s 6,000 teachers.
The Times, which over the years hasn’t exactly been a great friend of conservatives, has shown tremendous bravery in going forward with this package, which juxtaposes students’ performances on standardized tests with the teachers in their classrooms. The paper calls it a “value-added analysis.”
Among other things, the study found that:
After a single year with teachers who ranked in the top 10% in effectiveness, students scored an average of 17 percentile points higher in English and 25 points higher in math than students whose teachers ranked in the bottom 10%. Students often backslid significantly in the classrooms of ineffective teachers, and thousands of students in the study had two or more ineffective teachers in a row.
Predictably, L.A teachers’ union boss A.J. Duffy has called for a “massive boycott” of the Times because the data and the stories might be “leading people in a dangerous direction.”
In other words, some of his chronically under-performing union buddies might lose their jobs. Don’t look for sympathy to the hundreds of thousands of L.A. kids and their parents who have been ill-served by a crime-ridden and dysfunctional school system.
Opposition by union bosses to the unflattering report rings hollow and hypocritical, for we all know that if the data had proved otherwise, Duffy and the American Federation of Teachers would be falling all over themselves to claim credit.
Interestingly, Obama Education Secretary Arne Duncan came out in favor of the series, asking the obvious question, “What’s there to hide?” California Secretary of Education Bonnie Reiss added her two cents: “Publishing this data is not about demonizing teachers,” Reiss said. “It’s going to create a more market-driven approach to results.”
I taught high school English for a dozen years. And it is certainly true that, just as we shouldn’t judge a student’s intellect on test performances alone, so, too, should we avoid evaluating a teacher’s competence based strictly on those same scores. But the notion that we should suppress the data because it might give the wrong impression to the public is ludicrous on its face.
The Times did a commendable job of providing context to the results. And notwithstanding Mr. Duffy’s sneering condescension, the public is smart enough to evaluate what the data mean — not only to the profession, but to their own children’s education.
It is difficult to overstate the courage the Times showed in publishing this series in the face of virulent opposition from national union boss Randi Weingarten, as well as the left-leaning politicians and sympathetic public-sector unions that dominate the state of California.
But I’ll bet that for every subscription cancelled, there is a southern California businessman who takes out an ad in the Times in the hope that this series just might help produce a more educated work force. On second thought, I can do better than bet. I’ll pray.







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Seeing signs like the one pictured always make me cringe because it shows how badly the system failed the sign's creator. (Or should I say "The system worked" like our dear head of Homeland Security would?)
……"a dangerous direction"…yea,it might actually result in Times readers who have kids in LA public schools to actually demand a higher quality product from the teachers union….can't have that,now can we?
I guess the Times finally wisened up to the fact that there are not enough union people buying their garbage so a change has to be made. Or they just got lucky on this one…
Good God.
Save ARE children!
Get union leeches OUT of our schools, NOW!
tenure after two years? and pensions/benefits the like of which we in the non-union workforce will never see? and bankrupting the state in the process??? what could be wrong?
Yes it could be “leading people in a dangerous direction.”…the truth.
For several years, I taught remedial English grammar and "comp" at a Los Angeles community college. By the time they got to my classes, these students had little hope of ever learning to write clear, correct English. No one had ever bothered to teach them basic grammar. These kids got ripped off for their life-time spent in K-12 classrooms.
What is that saying?:
You can fool all the lefties some of the time, some of the lefties all the time, but you can't fool all the lefties all the time.
Like many of us that were formerly liberals and have now seen the light; we may have been fools but we weren't evil.
We began seeing the evil that was making use of us "useful idiots".
We may be seeing the conversion of such a person at the L.A.Times.
But I'll bet they could quote Howard Zinn. Priorities.
Everyone knows the "dangerous direction" Duffy's afraid of: less powerful unions.
We can have the argument or we can have the solution. We know that public education is a failure. The results have been manifested in our society for decades. When the problem hurts bad enough it will then be too late to do something constructive about it. We have lost two entire generations – men and women who are too stupid to be educated without significant costs to society. They will suffer and we will suffer when we retire and our future income is dependent upon their productivity to sustain the companies that will have to exist to pay the dividends that will sustain our retirement.
We have ignored it in favor of the argument and corruption. Truly ignorance is the most expensive commodity in America today. At least my kids are grown. Yours are screwed.
Sounds like some kind of "moran"
Oh Mr. rainmaker, you are so right. We the people must demand an end to the tyrants we call the dept of ed. We must return schools and their business to the states. We must infiltrate the local school boards and retake them as well. Only then will the future children have a fighting chance.
Wow, the Times got something correct, actually did some reporting. We live in strange times.
I wish someone could confirm the sign holder as a teacher.
Even the MSM stumbles on to the truth now and then.
When the LA Times, Arne Duncan, Al Sharpton and conservatives are all on the same page, the outlook for teachers unions doesn't look too bright .Geting rid of teachers unions might be an idea who's time has come.
Hooray for the LA Times. Even if they come out on the losing end of this battle, folks around the world (literally) are learning more about VAM of teacher effectiveness. We are seeing "again for the first time" how the union reacts to any threat, great or small. Who knows but that one teacher, or many, might seek help and training to avoid being shown as ineffective next year?
Raise the student to teacher ratios to 30:1 and lay the rest off, keeping the best.
Give teachers $10k per student and give them 20 students. Let them buy materials, rent, and let them keep the rest. If the kids all pass the exams, they get 2 more students for next year. Repeat. They'll spend $50k on "stuff" and concentrate on teaching and make $150,000 per year each to start.
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This is great to see the Times finally doing it's job…
Too bad it has little influence anymore, because hardly anyone actually reads it…
Next, you'll write something honest and uplifting about Sarah Palin?
Where were you when we needed you, LA Times?
You said a mouthful there, RainMan…
Thanks..
One green leaf on a dead tree? Maybe this is the "green shoot" we've been hearing about since early 2009. It's nice to think the LA Times have finally hit rock bottom.
Is there something below "English 21" now?
Yea,… it's called Middle school or Junior Hi…
I'm always shocked at the sloppiness of the job application…
My company asks applicants to write a paragraph or two on their hobby or
the best trip you ever took no matter whereor when it was…Just to get a feel for their
competence…
It's hilarious, but not funny, some of the screeds we get to read,..
No punctuation, atrocious spelling, overuse of slang and text message acronyms…
The schools are a failure….The Unions are at the forefront….
Thank goodness, you saw the the same word I did. It also appears that the gentleman, an adult, is holding the sign. Could he be one of the teachers? Doesn't say much for the CA educational system does it?
Kudos to the LA Times for stating in writing what we have known for many years. That had to take some guts in a city like LA.
Blind squirrel =======================> Acorn!
Way to go LA Times!
I think I read it in one of the "bigs" that Jaime Escalante who did such an incredible job teaching so called disadvantaged inner city kids higher math was hounded out of the job he loved because the unions didn't like him showing them up. This is the education that we spend 15 to 40 thousand dollars a year on.
and the truth is Always dangerous to liers, fools and scoundrels.
Remember the California Teacher's Union spent millions fighting Prop 8.
Let's just think about that for a minute.
What in the world did Prop 8 have to do with teachers?
Lotta money ya got their Teacher's Union. Mind sharing some with the, um … teachers? Sheesh.
Bumper Sticker:
"If you can read, thank a teacher. If you can't read, thank a teachers' union."
oh no…..educated poor people….but but who is going to believe the liberals now?
people know what the product is, non-functional grads trying to join an educated workforce.
Give me one good reason why Obama canceled the WDC voucher program? No, not that one, a real one.
Well, not quite. I did have one student who managed to slam George W. Bush in every assignment. The little darlings were overflowing with self-esteem. I finally gave an essay assignment asking that they explain why a student would come to class and never turn in an assignment–as some students did. The error-riddled papers I got back explained, e.g., that a "wise professor" would understand that some assignments were beneath the dignity of certain students; I was also exhorted to grade on the basis of "potential" (of a 20-year-old!) not performance.
Most interesting was a colleague who said he hated to flunk a pretty girl, a comment reinforced by my college-age son, who said he saw many pretty girls sail through school on a smile.
How can we………..
SAVE OUR COUNTRY…………..
when our TEACHERS are trying to……………..
SAVE ARE TEACHERS ??????????????????
; – >
non-union hired protestor…they're cheaper when they ourent educated.
Don't forget safety…the only "safety" they ensure now is that they can extort money from our politicians in complete safety.
My wife complains about younger friend's blogs or facebook posts and can tell who paid attention in "skool"
True sir,
The unions are now so powerful they control our government and the people of the United States (our taxes). The intentional collapse by Mr. Obama's administration is coming very soon, how do you think the union members will react when the well runs dry and they don't get their pensions or payroll?
Wouldn't a massive boycott of the LA Times put the readership in negative numbers?
You wouldn't believe the level of incompetence we get where I proofread. Granted, we're talking about apartment complex staff, but you wopuld think that the ones managing assisted living communities would have at least a minimum of writing ability.
OT. Hi Tuco, welcome home. Will be looking for your video. Glad you survived the crowds. I am very intersted in what you got in Gallup. Not likely I'll ever get by there and that stuff fascinates me. BTW, my father (born in 1907, long dead now) thought Unions had outlived their use in HIS father's time. Just saying.
Destroyed and Forbiden
Teacher Unions got a free ride on the Obama Gravey Train. Smells like a communist union teachers teaching our kids to hate America!
I am sure that the editor getting hits from the Union thugs!
The main reason Obamacare was passed was to save the unions from their obligation to provide healthcare for retired union workers. This is a HUGE portion of what the unions owe retirees in their pention agreements, now they will just tell them to sign up for Obamacare and they will save trillion$ while passing the buck to the American tax payer. This was never assumed by the CBO in its cost estimates and is just another oversite that will add to the real price of Obamacare if it is ever enforced.
You made most of the point that I was going to make.
But to try to keep it simple-these teachers want to retire in, say 20 years. The kids they are currently NOT educating, will be the ones paying taxes, Social Security and all the rest, 20 years from now. If the schools are turning out people with low income potential, what kind of retirement funding, Social Security and all the rest, will these teachers actually get?
Freakin BRILLIANT plan!
That's one of my favz
Love it!!!!!
Union Leaders tried to get FDR to allow gov't employees to unionize …Progressive FDR even saw that this would be a very bad idea …giving the Unions too much power. So WHO allowed for this? JFK, sad but true. I've not done enought research into this as to why he did this …but something is most certainly askew. How "public servants" can unionize is, in my opinion, Unconstitutional. We need another Reagan who fired ALL of the unionized FAA Radar Control guys …I say FIRE every Union Member in the gov't at every level (Fed, State, etc) …and then make them reapply for their job with Non-Union HR departments.
There are two different types of teaching methodology held by teachers in the public school system.
Methodology A: Teaching students how to think for themselves through critical thinking, understanding cause and effect, following a train of logic, context, etc.
Methodology B: Teaching students what to think through "social-economic justice and equality" (i.e., liberation theory and socialist indoctrination).
With budget crises facing many states, Methodology A is being drummed out of the schools while Methodology B is more likely to be hired for future openings.
I'll let you guess which Methodology was used by the top 10% of effective teachers.
Great story. Having said that, still don't trust the LA Slimes. Their motive of trying to regain lost market share is plain. Once they suck people back in, it will be business of lies as usual.
Think I will subscribe to the Times…. Someone has to stop these teachers UNIONS. There are many who arent doing their JOBS.. Maybe we should have TERM Limits on Teachers ……
better late then Never…. I am sure this could be a pattern starting here..
When my youngest son was in the second grade he would often bring home weekly spelling tests lists with some of the words misspelled.
i'm with you- as a boomer i grew up with 30+ kids in all of my classes and nobody thought it was any big deal. now if there are 20/class it 's a big scandal. the first time i ever taught Junior Achievement i was assigned a TRIPLE class. and for an hour & a half a week, i had 55 ten-year olds eating out of my hand. their teachers were amazed- they'd sit in the back of the room watching me hold court, laughing & learning right along with the students.
if teaching paid $100k/yr and didn't have all the bureaucratic & union BS, i'd seriously consider being one.
now if they only could have found ACORN, we might not be in quite the mess we're in…
EVERY problem in education can be solved by throwing more OPM at it…
Hmmmm, maybe the LA Slimes finally connected the dots between a city of illiterates and what that might do to readership numbers????
Thanks DB, 20 states, 11 days, 5851 miles. Going to start working on the video today. The pictures of the petroglyphs are amazing.
No public funded orginzation should be unionized. The hypocracy of assuming that the very entities that enforce the laws regarding equal opportunity, work place safety, tax-collecting, social security adminastration need the "protection" of a union is huberus on steroids. If the agencies that serve the public, funded by the taxpayers refuse to take pay or work hour reductions commenserate with the unemployment in the private sector they should be disbanded. The national workforce is in tatters, yet they are forced to pick-up the slack so that the "Public sector" retains its benefits. The only sector of the economy showing job growth is the public sector, primarily at the Federal level. We as a country are broke, but the feds refuse to stop spending. A very large segment of the government obligations are to the unions within the government.
LMBO. Thanks!
Is it possible to take a child out of the big-city urban environment and correct all of the flaws brought on by a lack of parental care when that child remains in the custody of the disengaged parents, Annie? Personally, I do not think so and this is in no way a defense of ineffective teachers. They need to go and if we need to eradicate unions in order to accomplish that goal, so be it!
Could not possibly agree more!
Yes but it has to reach out and smack them up alongside the head with at least a 2 x 4!
Teachers' unions and divinity schools granting degrees to just about any bum who can afford the $12 fee.
Prostrate at the feet of the Obozo and lapping at his bowel, er, I mean bowl, no doubt!
As a teacher, I have to chime in.
I do not think that we should ever hide data. HOWEVER, one needs to be VERY careful drawing conclusions from this data. Correlation does not prove causation. By all accounts, I am considered an effective teacher. My evaluations are top-notch, a large percentage of the students that I teach pass the state test, and I was once honored to be named teacher of the year for my school. Clearly, I have nothing to hide from these scores. Here's the problem…the teacher is only one factor in testing.
Consider this:last year, I was given a math class of 18 students and told to stick to the curriculum. 14 of them were special education. One 12-year old boy, when asked to add 3 and 4, guessed 9. Really. Half of them could not read well enough to understand a word problem, even when they were capable of the math. I tried to teach them the 7th grade curriculum, but spent quite a bit of time doing remedial things like basic addition, multiplication, and fractions (elementary skills, not in my curriculum). "My" scores dropped considerably last year. Not a single one of those special education students passed the state test. Is that my fault? Possibly. I tried very hard, but I don't claim perfection, so there may have been things that I could have done that I didn't think to do…but I truly think that those children would have failed regardless of whose class they were in – they simply weren't ready for the curriculum, and we aren't allowed to hold kids back (social promotion is the norm, repeating a grade is almost unheard of).
Correlation does not prove causation. This year, I was given a class of 18, with two high-functioning special education students. I have every confidence that "my" scores will improve. Did I become a better teacher over the summer? Not so much. I was given a different set of children, with different backgrounds and different strengths. They are ready to learn the curriculum.
Correlation does not prove causation. If I were given the lowest performing kids for three years in a row, I would look like a terrible teacher. But there are other issues to consider before claiming that one is a poor teacher.
Correlation does not prove causation. There is a very high correlation between churches and crime. (I.e. in high-crime areas there are a lot of churches, or flipped around, where there are lots of churches, there tends to be lots of criminal activity.) That is a fact. Does that mean that churches cause crime? I didn't think so. Some teachers work their hearts out for special education and/or low-achieving students. Some of those teachers do amazing things that will NEVER show up on a state test, through no fault of the teacher. Their kids might make three years worth of growth and still "fail" the 8th grade test, because they came into the class doing 2nd grade work.
So…I am not a union hack, yet I still urge caution when analyzing these numbers. I think that this entire discussion is missing one HUGE accountability factor: Why aren't the students being held accountable for their scores? If there is no reason to pass (mom doesn't care about grades, you know you will pass to the next grade anyway, and the state scores are not published on your report card), what incentive do the kids have to pass?
Unilaterally blaming teachers for student's scores is like kicking the jockey because the horse won't drink from the stream.
There are some terrible, horrible, no good, very bad teachers out there, no doubt. But the problems go deeper than that. When I was teaching English and Social Studies to "at risk" middle-school kids, I was repeatedly admonished by the principal for teaching spelling and grammar. The "Education Experts" had decided that kids would just absorb these skills naturally and shouldn't have their delicate little egos damaged by having their errors pointed out to them. I had tenure, so I smiled and nodded and went back to my classroom and taught spelling and grammar, and basic geography and the rest of the basics. There are young teachers in the classroom now who were never taught spelling or grammar because of basic decisions made by the DOE at both state and federal levels. The unions are only part of the problem.
Tenure is a stupid and pointless idea. There is no need for it – in my opinion it takes some of the professionalism out of teaching.
But it's not absolute. As it stands now, Principals CAN fire tenured teachers, it just requires lots of paperwork, and proof that the principal has attempted to guide and mentor the teacher, and the teacher still couldn't fix whatever he/she was doing wrong.
Could not agree more, RVD. I could have added that, for a couple of generations, we've had a huge percentage of kids caught in the chaos and drama of their parents' divorces and re-couplings. I wonder how many adults would function well shuttling between two homes on a weekly basis–and the poverty that goes along with making two households out of one. By second grade, my son was one of three kids in his class still living with his original parents. One of my dearest students wrote a powerful essay about his divorced parents demanding that he accept his half-sister, the product of his father's adulterous relationship that had broken up his parents' marriage and taken his father out of his life. My parents divorced when I was finishing college, and it sowed a lot of confusion into my life. I can't imagine what it's like for a grade-schooler. For one thing, what are we telling kids when we divorce? "When the going gets tough, adults quit." Oh, I should have labeled this post DON'T GET ME STARTED! (Too late.)
It's a big problem with Unions, civil and GOVERNMENT. No matter how bad they are at their job, no matter how they take advantage, lie, cheat, steal, or even just don't show up, YA JUST CAN'T FIRE THEM.
Heck, you can hardly fire your own employees, they can cause such a stink. We need to increase unemployment to reduce unemployment. FIRE 1/2 OF THE GOVERNMENT "WORKERS". Use the extra money to hire more cops, and put them in the ghettoes.
I hae no problem with the article, but one thing does concern me. Did the article note which teachers had classes with more children with special needs, learning problems, behavior problems, and parents who undermined them? As a teacher who retired after 30 years of teaching in a non-union state, I can tell you that even the best teacher, if she/he continually gets classes loaded with problems, will have kids who underperform. A good principal makes sure classes are not structured like this but, unfortunately, some principals are clueless or load classes with problems if they don't like that teacher for some reason. The problem is that some good teachers are going to show very poor results in this article, though perhaps the good done by the article will negate the few unfair evaluations.
The sign says it all……"Save ARE Teachers" I'm sure the teacher of the sign holder was one of those secure union teachers in the lower 10%.
woooooooooow….who would have thought that the better teachers would……teach better!?!?! truly incredible insight by the LA times! i bet they feel they deserve a subsidy for such excellent reporting!
You make some very good points. I personally think the system for measuring teacher performance is flawed.
For example: you're teaching 8th grade and get a student who is operating at a 2nd grade level. If you manage to help that student reach a 7th grade level by year's end, you've still "failed" by NCLB standards because the student is not at the "prescribed level".
From my experience (I'm in English, so I can't speak for Mathematics), I've seen several teachers who "teach to the test" by having students match A with B. They can effectively "fill-in-the-blanks" on standardized tests, but have no understanding of the concepts behind them. The teacher is only concerned with looking good on paper and the administration has some good numbers on their school report card. The students learn nothing.
I commend you for putting principle before politics and actually teaching your students. Believe me, they're better off for it (even if they're still a bit behind).
Oh they'll still have the sychophants in the media who obviously didn't pay enough attention in school to learn anything themselves. Anyone who went to Logic or basic Economics class need not apply.
I am for teacher accountability and against unions so I am troubled why the Obama adminstration is for this considering everything coming out of their adminstration has a socialist agenda. There is no money for the teachers as it is so how will the taxpayers ( who already pay for the teachers salaries and pensions ) afford paying for Race to the Top merit pay bonuses? Teachers say other occupations pay bonuses why shouldn't they get them?
First of all, not many workers get bonuses unless they are in a sales or commisssion job. Secondly, those positions are in the private sector where they actually create revenue? Do they deserve bonuses? No, teaching is there occupation by choice. If it is not enough money to live on, find another occupation. In the private sector, a worker would be laid off that demanded to get a bonus for simply doing the job they were hired to do in the first place. They say that a test will be given to the students at the beginning of the year and then another at the end to determine how much the student has improved and the bonus will be determined by this improvement. A couple of questions: Firstly, what would prevent the initial test to be overly simple so that a vast improvement ( and bonus as well ) is achieved?
Secondly, will the semester ending test score follow the student to the next year? If not, why not? The teacher has been paid a bonus for the improvement so if the student tests lower at the beginning of the next year, does the bonus get returned? If not, what would prevent the beginning and ending tests to be rigged just to give teachers these bonuses? If the scores do follow the student, can the new teacher contest the previous years scores due to the thinking the student scored higher than it actually was and hurting the bonus potential? Thirdly, will all courses ( including PE, driver's ed, music, art class ) have these improvement tests or just the core courses? If not, why would a teacher teach these classes that have no bonus potential? Keep in mind that some courses the student may come in with no previous knowledge about the subject ( foreign language, drafting, home economics, humanities ), so a vast improvement will be achieved and the bonus as well..
Fourthly, I thought administrators are so concerned about a student's self image and self worth? How will the student feel when they test poorly compared to other students in the class? Talk about an ego crusher ! Fifthly, if a seventh grade student tested at the level of a fifth grader but did improve to a fourth grade level by the end of the year, is this considered an achievement? If so, why? The student is still two full years behind the other students. If not, why not? Is the student expected to jump three grade levels in a single year? What if the student just doesn't have the mental capability of advancing that much in a given year? If the teacher decides to put in a lot of extra time for that student, don't the rest of the students get shortchanged?
Sixthly, all these things address how the teacher benefits from this system. The problem still remains, what if the student doesn't want to learn or put forth an effort for improvement? Is the teacher likely to try and have the student removed from the class or worse yet encourage them to quit school? After all, the student is now a impediment to the teacher's bonus. It also does not address if the parent/parents do not put forth an effort in the student's education. Maybe the school system will later address this by requiring the students start school at age three and longer school hours for the student ( minimizing the bad influence of the parent and the state influencing the student more ). This younger age and longer hours would raise teacher pay as well ( where would that money come from ?).
Lastly, would the Federal government also determine WHAT is and is not taught and tested in order to obtain these bonuses? If so, would a teacher that did not teach global warming, evolution as the only source of mankind, evils of capitalism, progressive history, social justice, etc. even be eligible for the bonus? More likely they wouldn't be hired in the first place, but that is another topic. I agree the education sytem is broken, especially in the intercity, but any system that does not have a student and the parent/parents involved will not work either, no matter how much money you throw at it.
Entitled teachers can relax, we have affirmative action to help out with their lack of teaching skills fail. Well known senator who thinks the Island of Guam will capsize if the Navy and Marines arrive…
Thanks.
I have no problem "teaching to the test" in mathematics. Either you know it or you don't. But in English, aside from vocabulary and grammar (which my state actually doesn't test), teaching to the test is a recipe for disaster.
I just think that we have to be really careful putting all of the blame on teachers. I provide excellent learning opportunities in my classroom everyday. Some children choose to learn, others choose to fool around. Some children try to learn, but are limited, and do the best that they can, but still struggle. Other children excel without trying because they are genetically gifted.
Children will do what they can get away with – it's the nature of children. It's a little bit like welfare. Why should a kid struggle to get an A or a B when there are no consequences for getting a D or an F?
I am continually astounded that we no longer teach spelling and grammar.
Your post was spot-on.
Most likely the test will be district-wide for statistical reasons.
But, there are ways to get around that. Sylvan learning center allegedly gives the pre-test in cramped, rushed, loud rooms. Then the post-test is given in small settings with unlimited time and silence. Teachers could easily do the same thing to inflate the "growth." Unethical? Of course. But it is certainly possible.
Yes, as hard as teachers try to help everyone, a LOT of our time goes to the special ed kid, because they need more to make the same growth, so other kids get less time and attention.
A good teacher doesn't let kids sit in the room, bored, but if you have an "average" kid, I can guarantee you that your kid is not getting as much time as the special ed kid sitting next to him.
In my school, the teachers would agree with a lot of what we have posted – teachers KNOW that public education is broken. Teachers HATE that we can't teach grammar or basic math. Teachers HATE that we have to be more concerned with a child's self esteem and academics have to take a back seat.
Teachers WANT our students to learn and often feel like our hands are tied by administration and politicians out of touch with real classrooms.
I agree completely.
Students desire to learn does play a huge (and often overlooked in these discussions) role in student success. The old phrase of leading a horse to water comes to mind.
I think the biggest problem with the public school system is the prevailing socialist ideology striving towards making students "equal" instead of educated (hence, no consequences for failing grades).
It really does stem from the NEA , various teachers unions, political interference, and administration for the most part.
Teachers who view themselves as political activists other than educators also play their part. I don't think they make up the majority by a long shot, but there are enough of them to stigmatize the profession as a whole and make life difficult for the rest of us.
Sad but true.
It breaks my heart how many of our kids are totally unprepared for any sort of profession. They can barely read, can't write a coherent paragraph, and can't make change. Can you think of a better argument for abolishing the Dept. of Education?
The Dept of Education is a waste, but when abolishing it is brought up, people react like you just spit on their grandmother. What does it do? Nothing except force more paperwork on schools, requiring those schools to become more top-heavy and allocate more resources to "administrative positions" that don't do anything for kids (but sure do have pretty titles).
I have considered becoming a principal, but I don't really want to be a bigger part of the problem than I am already forced to be…like you, I feel for kids who are unprepared for professional life.
You're right about the evaluations being superficial. The problem with trying to apply standardized testing is that it assumes that all kids, all classrooms, all schools are fungible. They aren't. There are no excuses for lazy, incompetent teachers, but the problems with our schools are systemic and complex.
First public service employees should not be unionized. Teachers, police and fire while underpaid and under appreciated should not have the power to do halfassed jobs and continue working without worrying losing their jobs. I know many teachers and police that look at something to do before retiring. I also know those that go out of their way to help their charges. Public servants are just that, employees paid by the public, not paid by unions or the federal government and needs to return to that way of employment.
Exactly! Too many people that teaching kids is like producting good widgets – if you do it correctly the results are good. That isn't always true. Kids have outside influences, free will, differing motivation, different abilities, different learning styles. They are not empty vessel into which learning can be poured if the person doing the pouring does it correctly. Most teachers try to accomodate all these factors, but it can be like juggling 25 balls in the air. I do object to teachers' unions that make it impossible to get rid of teachers who are clearly inferior and make ridiculous demands. Just the other day a friend told me about a friend of hers who teaches in the Detroit area. The unions have negotiated a number of massages each month for teachers. I'm not sure of the number, so I won't venture a guess. While I know how stressful it is to teach, that money would be much better spent in a number of ways.
I remember that guy! I didn't get to take him since I didn't even live in his state, but I saw that movie Stand and Deliver three times. That guy was an amazing teacher, and it sucks that the union managed to force him out of doing such a wonderful job for his students.
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