The liberal media’s newest meme is to claim that the tea party movement is made up exclusively of John Birchers, militia types, racists, and “birthers.” Politico, for instance, had an extensive story about how legitimate conservatives are coming to realize that they’ll have to conduct a Buckley-style purge of the extremists if they expect the tea party groups to be taken seriously. Of course, the left has had its extremists for decades, unlike the right has never conducted any such purges, and has also benefited from a news media that has never highlighted the left’s worst nuts.

The whole idea that conservatives have to purge their wackier, more fringe members is something that at one level is obvious but at another is proof that the left and the Old Media are nothing but hypocrites. At still a third level there is part of the attitude exhibited by some of these far right elements that is a root motivation of the tea party movement, fringe or no.
As clownish left-wing commentators such as Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, John Stewart or Stephen Colbert point fingers and guffaw at the fringes of the right and as the New York Times and Politico stroke their chins and look down their noses at the unruly tea party movement, it must be noted that none of these folks ever uttered a cross word against the Code Pink wackos, the communist infiltrators, anti-war hippies, Stalinist apologists, pro-abortion extremists, Euro-trash half-wits, eco-terrorists, and outright anarchists that have filled the left’s ranks since the birth of the new left after WWII.
At every lefty protest representatives of these hatemongering groups abound. They can be found on the campus of every American college and university, as well. But are these dangerous extremists ever discussed in our Old Media outlets when they highlight lefty movements? Never. The left’s extremists are simply never mentioned. It is as if every left-wing group in America is filled with conscientious old grandmothers and idealistic young folks innocently avowing their rights as citizens of the world. Never are the violence-prone, the hateful nutcases, or the drugged-out losers that fill the American left ever highlighted.
But watch out. Should one guy with a misspelled sign, a few goofy guys dressed as founding fathers, or one guy with a gun show up at a tea party and even conservatives start quaking in fear the their movement can’t be taken seriously.

All sorts of left-wing sources are attempting to tie the Tea Party movement to extremists. Bob Cesca of Huffington Post is sure that “teabaggers” are “right-wing fascists,” even though fascism is a left-wing ideology — remember the Nazis called themselves the National Socialist Party. The Washington Post rushed to say that IRS building destroyer Joe Stack was just like members of the Tea Party movement, linking this killer to folks in the movement despite that there are no ties to them. Of course, there are dozens of examples of the Old Media attacking the Tea Party movement. The Media Research Center has a great round up of many of these media slams on the movement from April 15 of 2009 and the attacks haven’t stopped since then.
Still, there are some serious questions that must be asked about what the tea party movement means, who should be “allowed” into it, and how its affairs should be conducted. William F. Buckley, Jr. well understood this when he conducted in the early 1960s the purge from his new conservative movement of members of the John Birch Society.
Even as House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio tells the media that he thinks the tea partiers are “great patriots,” some media types like former Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson are warning that the tea party movement is in danger of being defined by its “worst elements.” Consequently many conservatives are looking to Buckley’s example in order to distance the tea party movement from militia types and the so-called “birthers” that have set upon Obama’s birth certificate as its cause célèbre.

This is not to say that the tea party movement should simply stand by as weirdos take over their movement. Certainly conservatives are right to try and oust today’s John Birchers. But let’s be honest about one aspect of “extreme” sentiment that lies at the basis of the tea party movement: its essential anti-government sentiment.
The key difference between the left and right is that the left sees government as the answer to its dreams while the right sees government as the problem, not the solution. Leftists are fascists at heart and they want to use the iron fist of government to drive their policy goals. So, when the left protests it protests that government isn’t big enough, that it isn’t being used ruthlessly enough.
The tea party movement is different. It is at heart driven by a quintessentially American sentiment. That sentiment is a deep mistrust of big government.






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Perhaps some of the lefty mouthpieces in the MSM should attend a tea party and talk to the people there. The one I attended was full of middle class working Americans. There may have been a few nutjobs there but I didn't see them. Just 10,000 concerned citizens sick of government irresponsibility.
both sides have a collection of whack jobs, the whack jobs on the left are seen by the left as proof of how right they are. the nutty behavior points out how powerful the message of the left is. but whack jobs are like uncles, if hes your uncle hes an eccentric, if he is someone elses hes crazy. btw the picture of media benjamin above reminds me of the saying beauty is skin deep but ugly is to the bone.
They can't do that, because that would lend credibility to the movement. They have to demonize everything, as per Alinsky's rules. The minute you lend credibility to a person or movement that is against yours, you give opportunity for your supporters to cast doubt on your cause. That just can't happen. That's why these folks – all of them – are 100% against any movement that opposes them. To do anything else would risk hurting your own cause, in their opinion.
Conversely, RINOs treat libs the way libs treat terrorists. They try to play nice, come to the table, and "understand" their enemy. We know how well that works for us with the terrorists, so why do we engage the libs this way? Can't we see the problem?
And for that reason specifically, I support the concept of a conservative Alinskyite. I can play by their playbook, too.
This article is spot on. Why are we so afraid of our fringe contingent? They don't have to gain control, but they can help us move further right. After all, that's what we want, correct? Just like Kucinich, Dean, et al, help move the left farther left, and therefore help move the center farther left.
10,000 concerned citizens sick of government irresponsibility,sounds exactly like the msm's definition of right wing nutjob
Wouldn't matter. Don't forget, CNN was there and the reporter attacked the people she interviewed. Even when they see it with their own eyes, they still concentrate on a swastika on a sign (to point out the socialism of the left) and act like everyone is Nazis, racists, and extremists.
The White House Propaganda Ministry formally known as the Main Stream Media, has deteriorated to the point of using Alinsky tactics against what I believe is the majority of Americans.
Boy thats gotta be a hell of a business plan, I'm gonna just love watching as it continues to implode on its inferior ideology, I think it is morbidly funny.
The John Birch Society has been right all along in their opposition to Communism and big government.
Since their inception they have been mocked and marginalized by the left, but the sudden danger of a Communist in the White House with support from far left progressives in Congress gives a new sense of urgency to their mission.
Our country needs more organizations such as this that are dedicated to our founding principles. If we don’t take our country back soon, it will be forever changed into just another failed social experiment based on the European model.
https://www.jbs.org/
To rail aginst the MSM well-established left-wing bias is to complain bitterly about the cold in Fargo. It is a fact of life (political) and will not be changed, altered, moved off its track…ever. The ONLY event in recent history which stopped it in its tracks was 911 and the amazing groundswell of patriotism on display. Did the MSM LIKE this sentiment? Of COURSE not! But, it was temporarily powerless against the visual onslaught of flag waving patriotic hysteria. The APOLOGISTS had to take a break from their daily grind of America-bashing. Many of us knew it would just be a matter of time before they began to peddle their disdain for all things patriotic. Once they were able to focus on BUSH and the IRAQ war (pssst…heard anything about that lately??) they were off and running. If only Olberman and Co. were the main problem but they are just the tip of a soulless mass wishing destruction on this nation and its founding principles. Expect nothing more. They are not journalists or news organizations. They are the voice of those who would take all that we have and give us back a broken socialist system. Only then will they be happy.
Why did you delete my comment automatically?
The Tea Party movement is statist Washington’s worst nightmare. The three, Tea Party protest that I attended, what I saw, were the people that pay the freight, the part of America that if we say no, can stop a super majority from getting it’s leftist agenda through congress. We are wide awake now, we will not allow the MSM to marginalize in broad strokes who or what we are, this is why Clinton, and Carville are trying too identify “leaders” too isolate, personalize, and marginalize. Keep a vigilant eye America the left is squirming…what fun!
The John Birch Society was marginalized by the statists in the '60 and '70, rendering them ineffective.
In the vid, I heard only measured good sense in their push back of the BigGov'ment statists Yet, they allowed themselves to be porteayed as 'racists" and 'hate mongers" by the MSM.
Conicidentially, exactly what the left is doing to the TeaPartiers now. We need to continue our own "pushback" against them, in order to keep the TeaPartyMovement viable and effective.
While we still have the right to free assembly, we should organize and protest. If that attracts some on the fringe, so what? Since when is argument and discussion of issues a bad thing? If we don't all agree on everything — that's the normal state for free people.
We aren't the Borg — yet, but we will be if nothing is done about turning us socialist.
Why was the comment above deleted?????
How many left wing rallies and protests includes a bunch of idiots (usually flabby, wrinkly old hippies) running around naked? Yet nobody paints the whole left-wing movement as a bunch of perverted exhibitionists.
19 muslims destroy 2 huge skyscrapers filled with innocent people, yet liberals bend over backwards making sure that these mass-murdering psychopaths don't define islam. No, no, no religion of peace etc…
But God forbid a dozen conservatives get together in public without a black person present and suddenly it's a KKK rally.
The double standard is mind boggling.
I have been a part of the Tea Party movement since the beginning, and am active with our local chapter. If you are actually a part of it, you know that what the press says about it, is, for the most part, skewed by their having only covered it at rallies which can draw any number of people who have not been a part of the organization of the rallies, or been to meetings, debates and other "quieter" activities that, for obvious reasons, get no press. There are "extremists" that show up at ANY large gathering — even sports events. Why would it be any different at a Tea Party Rally. In truth, the movement is MORE than just the rallies, it is now about networking and preparing for elections to vote Congress OUT.
The side that controls the media and the writing of history wins no matter whether it's right or wrong. If you educate your children to find the truth you have a chance.
Perhaps a name change is in order… In the minds of many Boomers, Birchers and Klansman are interchangable, when nothing is further from the truth….
I came across this line:
"it must be noted that none of these folks ever uttered a cross word against the Code Pink wackos, the communist infiltrators, anti-war hippies, Stalinist apologists, pro-abortion extremists, Euro-trash half-wits, eco-terrorists, and outright anarchists that have filled the left’s ranks since the birth of the new left after WWII."
and stopped reading. The mainstream press had no cross words about the Communist Party and the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers?!
Brother, what are you smoking and where can I get some?
Exactly, HiPlainsDrifter.
The missing ingredient all along has been the lack of conviction by the right that they hold the moral high ground. When morality is taken out of the equation, the leftist notion of moral equivalency takes over. At that point, the battle is lost.
We have to find leaders with moral certitude, the brains to articulate their position, and the balls to engage the enemy with a “take no prisoners” mentality.
Looks like Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann have more of these requirements, particularly the cojones, than most of the current “conservative” crop in the Republican Party. Mental toughness is sadly lacking in this bunch.
This Boomer knows better than that although it hasn't been until very recently I came to know much about the John Birch Society. The history of the Demmunists is something far more fear-worthy. I helped carry their water when I was a young kid, in Central Hellinois, helping my precinct committeewoman mother, when and where JFK stood for Jesus F'in Krist.
Excellent point. Who do MSM cameras zoom in on at football games, when the cameras are aimed at the stands?
The bare-chested foot loops painted head to toe in their team's colors, big foam appendage on one hand, and a beer in the other.
Who cares what the MSM takes seriously. The LAST thing any real patriot should want is approval of the MSM. We have the internet,(at least for now), to communicate with each other and people that are interested. Thank God for people like Andrew Breitbart and Fox News who are not afraid of the truth. Let's just do what we have set out to do. When we fill the Congress, (and eventually the White House), with REAL conservatives, then we will see who is serious and if we don't, then maybe the MSM has a point and we can just call it the United Socialist States of America.
What's the story with the deletions?
I've always admired women with cajones, like Michelle and Sarah…The jackels in the media are doing exactly the same thing to them as they did to the Birchers in the '60s/'70's .
I can always tell who the effective spokspeople are….They will be the one's taking the most flack and most on target.
I think both leftist and rightist extremists are rabidly anti-government. The difference is that extremists on the left is also rabidly anti-American.
Here's the kind of thing that happens at leftist rallies that you won't read about in the MSM. (This picture is definitely NSFW. The link address kind of tells you what you'll see, but it's not particularly graphic.)
http://fallingawake.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/c...
I think both leftist and rightist extremists are rabidly anti-government. The difference is that extremists on the left is also rabidly anti-American.
Here's the kind of thing that happens at leftist rallies that you won't read about in the MSM. (This picture is definitely NSFW. The link address kind of tells you what you'll see, but it's not particularly graphic.)
http://fallingawake.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/c...
Well, they certainly didn't think it worth too much attention that Obama had close ties to Weather Underground member Bill Ayers (too busy digging up dirt on Sarah Palin's teenage daughter I guess.) I certainly didn't hear much in th MSM about the Blank Panther's use of voter intimidation at the polls the last election or the Obama Justice Dept dropping the charges against them recently. The MSM indeed does a superb job of covering up for the radical left.
Were you cussin' again?
3 of mine were deleted yesterday….A filter problem…I'm sure…
It's about WINNING BACK THE HOUSE & SENATE FIRST, the ideological vetting and internal conservative DNA testing can wait – for a short while.
The lunatic left FEARS this movement, it recognizes the power of an angrily arroused, motivated citizens. Democrat politicians should certainly understand what a populist uprising can mean – because as the party in power, and the party that is complicite with an increasingly unpopular lunatic persident, they will be the ones that will get scalped in November.
I'm hearing a nasrrative that the mood is generally anti-incumbent, that might be true, but if I'm an incumbent that has a record of wasteful spending I'd much more worried.
And the tragic thing back then was a lack of conservative media outlets. The left pretty much controlled everything. At least we now have talk radio, FOX news, and the internet (thanks to Al Gore).
I sure hope the woman in the first picture got the psychiatric help she so desperately needs.
First, if it were not for the "fringe loons", the MSM would fabricate them anyway. Remember the noose hanging on the minority professor's office door that turned out to be placed there by a minority student? Second, by using the "fringe loons" as fodder for the Maddows, Olbermanns, etc., it allows us to "hit back twice as hard" with the truth using honest reporting and pointing out the their distortions. I believe that the Tea Party movement is as much fueled by our refusal the be lied to any longer. A liability into an asset. Might not be a bad move.
The author of the article was talking about the entire period since WW II. You really think the mainstream media has played friends with the Communist Party and the Black Panthers and the Weather Underground *since WW II*?
But go ahead, change the subject if it makes you happy…
As for Obama's "paling around with terrorists," Mayor Daley had much closer ties to Bill Ayers than Obama ever did. No one's ever accused him of having ties with terrorists.
Check out the Wikipedia article on the subject. I know, I know, Wikipedia is Left-wing or something. But check it out. It's honest and balanced and presents all sides of the story and lets you make up your mind.
Polling intimidation by Black Panthers in favor of Obama? What Black Panthers? They have effectively ceased to exist.
Are you kidding? The fact that the media hasn't made that accusation against Daley supports my point, Daley is a democrat, he gets a pass. The NY Times' Walter Duranty did a superb job of whitewashing the atrocities of commie tyrant Joe Stalin and making him seem like a nice guy before WWII. I could give you many more examples but I have better things to do and quite frankly, you're not worth it.
Expect Democrat/Union hired and planted "right wing fringers" to show up where TV camera are present trying to sabatoge the "photo ops" designed to marginalize and demonize the Tea Party gatherings the rest of this year.
Look for blatantly racist signs, Nazi clad clowns, side arms (which personally DON'T bother me, but the LEFTIST media will go ape-caca) and the rest of the freak show to try to "create impressions" that make ALL TEA PARTIERS as lunatics.
These people are ruthless amd devoid of morals and souls. This is about LEFTIST statists CONTROLLING YOUR LIVES.
Progressive Socialism is a sickness that resists the cure, and that cure is a motivated, intellectually engaged electorate.
What in the hell is wrong with the filter? It's deleting EVERYTHING.
Absolutely no cussing. My comment had to with our still being allowed free assembly and taking advantage of it while it lasts because if we don't get rid of the current lefties, we won't be able to organize and protest anymore. Also if fringe types hang around, let them. We can sort things out when the country is on the right (pun intended) track again.
James
You cussin' again??
I prefer the term "spicing". Like a fresh jalapeno in a tangy salsa frescas.
No, I'm just saying watch out for the plants at Tea Parties looking to make photo ops that make all Parties look like loons.
"you're not worth it"
Awwwwwwwwwwwww, ya done gone broke my achey-brakey heart.
In the minds of many Boomers?
It's hard not to throw the baby out with the bath water. But quite frankly I don't really give a hoot (for Vicky) what is in the mind of the Baby Boomers.
It is what is in the mind of who came after the Baby Boomers that concerns me. Yes we need Baby Boomers to seek True Religion before November. (not the gosh darn -for Vicky – jeans….see what I mean).
The Baby Boomers in all their glory will be a mocked generation for centuries to come. Head & Shoulders above Humpty Dumpty.
Let's try it again: They will be seeking to "create" TV footage that can go viral and be picked up by the evil that is "Main Stream Media".
Remember, the MSM planted bombs in pickup trucks, crashed them and called that "investigative reporting". These people are ruthless, the have no morals and they are dedicated to advancing Obama's Progressive Socialism.
Discrediting the Tea Party is JOB #1 for these people, we must be smart, clever and prepared for them.
There is a must read interview by Kathryn Welling with James Rickards, former General Counsel of Long-Term Capital Management.
This is the man who bought the world back from the brink of collapse in 1998. And the people the Baby Boomers put into power – and kept in power – put James Rickards in a box and then again with Brooksley Born and set our course off a cliff.
FORGET John Birch, Code Pink et al. DON'T YOU SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING? God your generation is soooo gosh darn (for Vicky) gullible.
Baby Boomers. Get True Religion. Get Rickards work into your heads. Get that Welling interview into your heads and FORGET THE NOISE. You do realize that if we don't get November right that many of us will not be around to support your retirement. Later.
Let's test the filter, which is kicking me out hard.
Boo. Filter SUCKS! Ok – Obama is a right wing conservative John Bircher, and he loves shotguns, deer hunting and 4×4 pick ups. In fact he prefers to be call "Bubba"
They will be seeking to "create" TV footage that can go viral and be picked up by the evil that is "Main Stream Media".
Remember, the MSM planted b o m b s in pickup trucks, crashed them and called that "investigative reporting". These people are ruthless, the have no morals and they are dedicated to advancing Obama's Progressive Socialism.
Discrediting the Tea Party is JOB #1 for these people, we must be smart, clever and prepared for them.
They will be seeking to "create" TV footage that can go viral and be picked up by the e v i l that is the "Main Stream Media".
Remember, the MSM planted b o m b s in pickup trucks, crashed them and called that "investigative reporting".
These people are ruthless, the have no morals and they are dedicated to advancing Obama's Progressive Socialism.
Discrediting the Tea Party is JOB #1 for these people, we must be smart, clever and prepared for them.
Don't be concerned.
People can only make themselves look bad — if some nut is doing something ridiculous, it doesn't reflect on the crowd even if the media pick it to highlight their lies. We can't make them tell the truth, but we can tell the truth where and when we can like here and other blogs, talk radio — television not so much.
I fear Fox is going left. I was frightened when they let Brit Hume go and now it appears, non-hysterics will be a short supply and bloviators like O'Reilly and Beck will prevail.
Dave
Sorry, I'm dense this AM….
Who is "Vicky"? jeans? True Religion jeans? You're "head and sholders" over my head..TFS…
Boomers are the only one who remember the Birchers, the following generations never even heard of them, unless they are wired in, so It's Boomers who have the warped views about them…
That's all I meant…
Why worry about ideology testing at all…?
(This is a rhetorical question for the readers, Jamesb, not commentary directed at you per se)…
The absolute beauty about the thing, (and since I am one, I can speak on it), is its almost "Contract with America" clarity…
"Fiscal responsibility", say, is the goal…but the attainment is is decided by the individuals…and everyone has a slightly different level and way to do that ,so it self-limits the nutcases, who find themselves in very rarified air if they're too silly about it…
And its not all "anti-incumbent"…the Republican meeting I attended was more "anti-business-as-usual…"
The old days when you could coast through simply because you had an (R) behind your name are just GONE, man…people were openly skeptical almost to the point of outright dismissiveness if you brought the usual "public service" resume and "Rotary Club" endorsements and awards…questions were probing, follow-ups were pointed and tenacious, and if you came in unprepared to answer the questions or bring an agenda to get things actually DONE, you were both literally and figuratively smoked and canned in place…and this was in little old Los Lunas, NM…!
You can't run for a public office and put your feet up on the desk after you win, anymore…even if you think you could, there are twenty people with camera phones, four AG investigators, and a forensic accountant peering up your backside counting polyps…
My, my…! What hath Obama wrought…?
I agree completely that the Tea Party Movement must remain a decentralized moving target. The left knows that the majority of Americans just need a leader to rise up against their incipient tyranny. To prevent this, they attack and destroy any potential leaders (Sarah Palin anyone ?, Fox News ?, ) with their media machine. They use guilt by association: smear and create prejudice against the leader and the koolaid drinkers stay on the sofa being drugged by Jon Stewart. Dont give them a leader and they must use other tactics to "pre-prejudice" people against a potential opposition group.
That whole purging the Birchers from the conservative side worked really well didn't it ? Not, it was an epic fail. The right played right into their hands, and 50 years later the fabian socialists tactics have worked and the left is on the precipice of victory: world wide socialism ! The key, like learing-and using, the tactics of Alinsky, is to go to school on how they have deflected criticism of their radicals ! Once the media was not completely controlled by the leftist and there was criticism and exposure of the moonbats that make up the core of the leftist movement. The leftist deflected this criticism and in fact turned the criticism into an effective attack on the right ! Don't do their bidding and go on a witch hunt of your own supporters (as sadly Fox News commentators do all to often). Every important movement needs, if not requires, a few people screaming from the rooftops !!! Instead, ignore their attempts to pre-prejudice the kool-aid affected against the Tea Party Movement, and instead go on the attack and put the leftist media machine back on the defensive. Take the energy that would have gone into a "purge" and put it into exposing the leftist loonies. The leftist media machines smear and hate machine is finally metastasizing into violence against our fellow Americans: This is the story ! Expose this, and that they are trying to pin THEIR violent hate groups on the Tea Party Movement.
Something is wrong with the comment filter. My post was deleted as I submitted it.
Humorous cartoon combining Obama's broken campaign promises and his ipod gift to the Queen at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/category/health...
The key difference between the left and right is that the left sees government as the answer to its dreams while the right sees government as the problem, not the solution.
Oh, then the right doesn't exist because the ones calling themselves "right" now are pro-war which is the most pro-government you can be!!!!!!!!
Yes, JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY also recognized the futility of Vietnam-style wars (read: Iraq, Afghanistan, etc…. today). They recognized the enemy was IN THE US government and labels like "left" or "right" are just deception.
Must see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1EFlMKV6sY
JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY also recognized the futility of Vietnam-style wars (read: Iraq, Afghanistan, etc…. today). They recognized the enemy was IN THE US government and labels like "left" or "right" are just deception.
Must see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1EFlMKV6sY
BTW, what is wrong with being a racist? ALL RACES are allowed to be racist…..except Whites. Isn't that racist? Witness the recent "Step" (and fetch it?) competition. Even Sprite, their sponsor, is openly racist against Whites. Like you say, shouldn't Whites push back?
The key difference between the left and right is that the left sees government as the answer to its dreams while the right sees government as the problem, not the solution. Leftists are fascists at heart and they want to use the iron fist of government to drive their policy goals. So, when the left protests it protests that government isn’t big enough, that it isn’t being used ruthlessly enough.
I would argue that the key difference(S) are that we on the Conservative side do not break out all of the Starbucks windows, do not pour concrete on railroad tracks, do not place our children in the street in front of eighteen wheelers hauling support materials to our troops, do not dump trashbins, burn cars, overturn vehicles, cause general mayhem all with the general expectation of being excused for our actions because we are somehow justifiably miffed and expected to react violently. It would seem as if such actions and indifference are reserved to the left-wing protests and yet somehow, seemingly justified by the MSM.
This non Baby Boomer is well aware of the John birch Society. There is still a chapter here right where i live as well. What is odd is how time changes everything. they don't seem so extreme compared when compared to the radicals that rose from the Boomer generation, aka The Wasted Generation.
Oh, and we on the right do not parade around naked in front of small children in a rebellious act of "freedom of expression" that has absolutely nothing to do with the general cause behind the protest!
There are more I am sure but that should be some food for though. I am certainly not expecting any liberal to attempt to justify this, though it would be refreshing to have them put their hypocrisy down in writing even if they never garnered anything from it.
Try linking the interview.
I agree that the media and academia are predominately left wing. That's why PATRIOTS must be READY to DEFEND against them.
Umm. Let me think about that another minute. If the journalists and academics are left-leaning, that means that reporters, who have the quickest access to the most information, and teachers, who spend all their working day analyzing the world, tend to agree with left wing ideas.
Hmmm. On second thought: If the most well-informed and smartest people agree with the left, maybe they know something I don't.
Hogwash! Enough of this "thinking" bullshit. I want a STRONG America, READY to deploy forces to DEFEND my PATRIOTISM.
That usually happens when you tell the truth.
We should be recognizing not the futility of Viet Nam style wars but the futility of Korean style wars. Every war has been fought on that model since, and is waste of time and money.
In the vid the key words were "without the will to win"…Just like now…And I'm "racist" against current liberal leftists, no matter what shade of beige, yellow, green, brown or red they are..Leave it there, OUT.
The major flaw in this argument is one of semantics perhaps but maybe a difference that you can appreciate. In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
What the most "well-informed" and "smartest" people you refer to are doing is researching theory., Much like in the scientific world, there are many theories that look sound and even good on paper but when they are practiced in the "real world":, the presence of variables that were not previously considered tend to change the results.
It may be nice to sit back and believe that if everyone were equally rich or equally poor, we would all be equally happy but the reality is that many people have an inherent desire to lead and many people have an inherent desire to be led. While it may sound great to guarantee "equal:" results for all people, the fact remains that all that has been accomplished is decreasing the desire for anyone to succeed, much less excel in their chosen fields as their reward does not increase in proportion to their contributions. Why should anyone strive for anything when they can do nothing and be assured an equal portion? The ultimate end for any such situation is that it rapidly devolves to a state where more people are receiving than putting forth. Once that has become the case, the slippery slope has been vaulted and the rest of the ride may be thrilling but it can only end in devastation.
Remember, if everybody jumped on the bandwagon, it would quickly become bogged down by its own weight and there would be nobody left to push! It cannot by its very nature go any farther.
TRU DAT!
Since retiring from 20 years of military travels, and since burying my dad who fought 3 wars, I've taken quite an interest in the history of our country. I've been astounded.
Public schools (and any schools that want to stay in business) quite naturally join the silent conspiracy to whitewash the truth, to perpetuate the fantasy that American history is a story of the triumph of good people with good values.
WE NEED INDEPENDENT EDUCATORS with the guts to teach the truth, even if it the truth shows our own society, our own culture, our own nation, to be dominated by racist, imperialist, and dangerous religious zealots.
Great article! I would consider myself a "birther agnostic", in the sense that I do not know whether or not Barack Obama was born, for sure, in the U.S. Why don't I know? Because the fact remains that for whatever reason, B.O. won't release his *actual* birth certificate. In my mind, this is a Constitutional issue and I reject the assertion that that is somehow a fringe position. A core motivation of the TEA party is to return the nation to abiding by the law of the land, the Constitution. The MSM and others have cleverly made this look like a fringe issue by equating birthers with truthers, but facts are facts. One day hopefully, we will know why B.O. has refused to release so many records (college grades and thesis included – remember how much crap Bush was given over his C's?) I refuse to look the other way just because some people believe it should be ignored in the name of winning elections. Isn't the whole point of the TEA party movement to stand up for what you believe in and not sell out? If we can't do that, the TEA party will become just another politics as usual party.
Happened to me too – its just a glitch.
*sigh* Add another one to the troll list. Whatever you're smoking, it's clearly already enough.
Interesting… you consider Beck to be on the left?
There's no rhyme or reason to it. I wonder if changing a few letters or words from a blocked post would make it go through?
Thanks, Ward. Smartest answer to a comment I've ever read.
Love the opening twist on theory and practice.
I'd like to take some time to argue, but instead, I'm going to take the time to think about your thoughts.
Now THAT's what the internet is good for.
Mike
Well thats because they are anti semetic racists….I'd take Buckley far more seriously than anyone defending the Birchers. Anyone seen gay bashing as their talker was doing at CPAC is not someone we need or want. Don't like it? Too bad. You wanna play with the big dogs, let the anti semetism, racist, gay bashing etc. go.
They had better hope that the Tea Party is not made up of nut jobs as they claim. If it were, then your talking about a multi-million man militia ready to kick some big govt left wing ass. Grandma and Grandpa coming at you with both barrels loaded with 00 buck shot.
John Birchers, are there really any left, vote too and they, if they still exist, are not likely to vote for the government take-over party, aka D-baggers. I fervently hope that the Tea Party movement is not co-opted by the purity wing of conservatism as that would spell its doom. The goals should be very defined and the priority should be to take back Congress. We need every single vote we can muster to get there. We cannot allow the purists to do what they did in 2006 and cost us Congress in order to "teach the GOP a lesson." It was pure stupid then and it would be suicide now. The Tea Party movement is not a conservative movement, especially not a purist conservative movement. It is made up of Republicans, Independents, some Dems, small and big L libertarians, and many who have felt unwelcome in any party but who care greatly about their families, communities and our country. I am an avid supporter of the Tea Party movement, have attended three of them, and I would do whatever I am able to advance the agenda, up to the point where someone tries to take over and start a purge of those who aren't "conservative" enough. You see, I am not a conservative, either small c or big C. I am an Independent libertarian Republican who puts fiscal issues at the top of my priority list and anyone who also has fiscal responsibility as their #1 issue is fine with me. I am also a pragmatist. Take back Congress first and then make room for the various factions to have their say, including the purists. And remember, it is about jobs, jobs, jobs. You don't have to be a Conservative to care about the sinking economy and the headlong plunge into socialism and neo-Stalinism. The idea of purging is anathema to me and I would bet to most of those who are turning out for the Tea Parties.
Well I guess if you aren't in support of purges you don't get your comment posted. So much for Big Journalism.
Support of the military is pro-war? That is ridiculous. Military people want to prevent war more than anyone, but they understand that freedom always has a price and defending the Constitution sometimes means going to war with those who want to destroy it.
Last time I checked, the original tea party was part of a revolutionary movement to overthrow a tyrannical government. Insofar as they just want to "fire" Democrats, today's tea party activists are nothing but frauds. Revolution is the only solution.
I don't know who Vicky is either, but maybe she's a grandma like me who opposes crude language???!!
Nice try.
Wasn't it the Left who originally brought up the birth certificate, via Hillary?
I guees you have selective reading skills – he said pro-war. Pro-war is anti-military, really.
Nothing about invading foreign countries for foreign interests is in line with the Constitution! The ones that want to destroy the Constitution are in our government.
There is no difference I see. The object of these wars are to waste time and money – haven't you read Orwell's 1984?
Exactly. I, too, am not a "birther," but I do take an interest in whether or not he is a "natural born" vs "native born" by virtue of his father's British citizenship. There's a lot of murky water surrounding Duh 1. I'd sure like to see some of it cleared up.
I fear the media and it's refusal to report the truth. Everything they write needs to be read with sketpicism. As far as I'm concern most should be charged with treason. They go out of their way to find the one loon attending a TEA party rally. And, what are the chances that the loon is a plant? The radical left can destroy sections of Seattle or Pittsburgh or anywhere that business leaders are gathering and be referred to as anti-NAFTA or anti-global protestors.. Never as hoodlums or anarchist that they really are. And then freedom loving middle-class folks gather on the mall peacefully and are referred to as radicals. Something is seriously wrong in America. Are the treasoneous media and the marxist in charge going to force me to become some sort of radical? Was Patrick Henry a radical? Change has to happen!
I am not aware of any homosexual bashing that went on if you oppose special rights and marriage for homosexuals based on moral conviction that is not bashing.
That would be HilBillys PUMA Party, also started the Muzlim derision…
Good point miedz.
America has the most successful system of government ever invented. It is based on moral principles that make a distinction between good and evil.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are deemed to be good. Slavery under oppressive governments is deemed to be evil. In any compromise between good and evil, only evil wins.
We must STOP granting moral equivalence to left wing ideas as “just a different world view”. We legitimize leftist positions by agreeing to debate them on their terms.
We must remember that we stand for good; they stand for evil. We are right, they are wrong. There will be no compromise.
It’s way past time to scrap this nonsense and get back to the principles that made this country great.
Guys, this article is written by someone who himself FEARS and LOATHES the Tea Party. Whatever he says on the subject is just enabling the left to crush us. IF he knew jack diddly about the Tea Party (which he doesn't), he'd know that the John Birch society had nothing to do with it, and neither did the people who want to see Obama's birth cert. Furthermore, what's wrong with wanting to see proof of citizenship? Obama has spent $2 million dollars forbidding anyone from seeing it — something's rotten in Denmark. But I know, I know; we should always believe Obama when he talks about his citizenship and his faith (which is what he himself has demanded). Thank God true patriots don't start out the race by believing the assumptions of their foes.
Gee whiz, another evasive non-answer. I'm shocked.
The Tea Party movement MUST remain a decentralized, organic, and as undefinable a moving target as possible for the Media elites.
The will insult us, they will demean us, we must keep our eyes on the prize; stopping this obviously socialist president and this neo-Imperial Congress.
This will make it less susceptible to "Alinskyesque" tactics of maginalization and demonization.
The likes of Olbermann, Matthews, et al will be disdanefully critical, because the Tea Party it cuts against everything they are, which is cliquish, obnoxiously and pridefully psuedo-intellectual (ias in Olbermann brings in his Cornell diploma, from the NON Ivy League part of Cornell, the accessible and pedestrian side)
So, as desireable as it might be to run off the pure RINO's like Linsay Graham of South Carolina (who is still pimping Cap & Trade in the Senate, he must own some of Al Gore's soon to be confetti valued stock) it would be SMARTER not to get in to a purity purge or an all out food fight with the GOP.
Or the folks with a rainbow wig and a huge "John 3:16" sign…
The more it changes, the more it stays the same…
Expect a army of "False Tea Partiers" to show up Tax Day and at any Tea Party where TV cameras are present. They may bring their own cameras seeking to craete fights and discord, to "SOUR" the movement. Beware.
They will be seeking to "create" TV footage that can go viral and be picked up by the evil that is "Main Stream Media".
Remember, the MSM planted bombs in pickup trucks, crashed them and called that "investigative reporting". These people are ruthless, the have no morals and they are dedicated to advancing Obama's Progressive Socialism.
Discrediting the Tea Party is JOB #1 for these people, we must be smart, clever and prepared for them.
They will be seeking to "create" TV footage that can go viral and be picked up by the evil that is "Main Stream Media".
Remember, the MSM planted bombs in pickup trucks, crashed them and called that "investigative reporting". These people are ruthless, the have no morals and they are dedicated to advancing Obama's Progressive Socialism.
Discrediting the Tea Party is JOB #1 for these people, we must be smart, clever and prepared for them.
If this ObamaCare goes thru as it seems destined to, thru this phony reCONcillation process, I'm envisioning 60's style protests nationwide on TaxDay 2010..
.Massive, yet peaceful crowds, making their voices heard over the lazy, ignorrant leftists, gov'ment nipple suckers, tax the rich freaks, who want everyrhing "free".
Look for US at a park near you…
At least this "pinko" is not naked. Those gals are hard to take clothed, but naked, they could be used as an interrogation technique.
By the way, itn't it nice that they picked a color which so aptly defines them?
1. The leftist media machine is "pre-prejudicing" the great un-thinking masses against the TPM. They do this to any potential opposition leader (notice how they don't bother with McCain-he is one of them !). Purging "un-desirables" plays into their hands.
2. Instead, put them back onto the defensive by shining a brighter light on THEIR crazies, which happens to make up the majority of the committed left.
3. Go to school, as we did with Alinsky, on how the leftist media has deflected any attention and criticism of their moonbats. Use those tactics against them. It worked for them didn't it ? And how did Buckleys purge work out for the Conservatives ? Not so good if you ask me. Here we are 50 yrs later and the left is more powerful than ever.
"Leftists are fascists at heart and they want to use the iron fist of government to drive their policy goals."
BINGO! Never ever expect a liberal to ever see the forest for the trees or the bend in the road. They claim freedom all the while giving up their freedom. They even give up their freedom in pursuit of bigger government.
That's the same problem I come to when debating with rabid leftists. As soon as they are presented with something that contradicts their worldview, they either dance around the issue, ignore it and move on to the next talking point, or scream racism, fascism, teabagger, or some other etiphet.
Nowhere near as intelligent as they tell themselves.
Code Pink should be tried for treason.
I am surprised by the timidity of so many Conservatives and Tea Party people. Don't question Obama's citizenship or we might be called "birthers." Don't call Obama a Socialist or we will be called "racists." And, the latest, Don't call Obama a Muslim or we will be labeled "nuts" or "kooks" or any of the long list the liberals use. They insist that only fact, reason and tolerance be used lest someone disagrees with us. Well, how has that worked so far? I thought so.
"Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules." Recognize that? Look it up.
Obama and his progressive supporters want to change the Constitution of the US and THEY ARE SUCCEEDING! If you understand that and still think reason and tolerance will work, then you should prepare for the Socialism they will ram down your timid throat.
Barack Obama is a Muslim!
http://usataxpayer.org/?0019422256
Will you tolerate progressive plans for your children?
http://usataxpayer.org/?0092081630
I agree I am not a birther but it has to be clear to any reasonable person that Obama is hiding something in his past I do not know what. It might be something that is just embarassing but after doing many investigations I have to say they are going to a lot of trouble to hide nothing. The guy that wrote this article sounds like Arlen Specter.
Excellent point.
Buckley threw the baby out with the bath water. The John Birch Society was mostly an honorable organization with truth on their side. Any movement that size is bound to attract a certain number of people with extreme views. Those must be dealt with properly on an individual basis. Buckley did a huge disservice to the conservative movement by painting the JBS with a broad brush and conducting purges.
If you let the enemy divide you and cause dissention within the ranks, he wins. The old divide and conquer tactic is alive and well. The left now has us polarized in so many ways – rich vs. poor, black vs. white, old vs. young, male vs. female, Christian vs. Jew (or Muslim), etc.
You are right that it is time to go on the offensive. We have truth and morality on our side. Keep the pressure on, fight this progressive cancer whenever and wherever it is encountered, and give no quarter.
It was refreshing to watch Breitbart take on the loons at CPAC.
The Out-of-the-Mainstream Media does attend Tea Party Rallies – and what they do it look for the most cartoonish individuals at said rallies and try to paint the entire movement based upon these people. The Left is very good at painting with a broad brush.
I am a Tea Party enthusiast and I think we ought to publicly invite minorities that are of a like mind to join our movement. I know many hispanics and african americans share the views of the tea party. Take the media out of the equation and go directly to the minority community by way of television, radio and print ads. Ithink we all would be pleasantly suprised at the response. the Tea Party movement is not racist and we will be much more succesful by maintaining a policy of inclusion than exclusion. It is not our job to tell the birthers what to believe. I am amazed that no-one within the movement has tried publicly reaching out. It would put the MSM on the defensive immediatly and defuse their primary mode of attack.
Yes; they see passion — even murderous passion — as proof of dedication. Thus, the deification of Che and the whitewashing of Ayers.
No foreign country was invaded for foreign interests. Stop drinking the bong water, read some history, and you won't make such an idiot of yourself.
Yes; the Birthers started with Democrats.
Leo, why do Americans need specific "invitations" based on the color of their skin?
I suspect you're not really all that informed about the Tea Parties, despite claiming to be an enthusiast, because there are minorities involved. The left refuses to acknowledge them, so they don't get much coverage. Perhaps it's the lack of coverage that has confused you?
The reality of the tea party is how few wacko's there are. If you have ever looked at the zombietime website, you would see the many wacko's of the left that the lamestream media never seems to notice. There are lot of really strange left wing people that are always at these left wing events but are never seen by the press.
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